The Office [US]

[Aggie]

SOOOOOOOO, what did you think?

I've been watching since day one and don't know how I felt about last night. I think they could have done a lot more, but it's only the first episode. Dwight killing the cat was pretty funny, the name of the fun run and some of the Meredith stuff were pretty good.

The storylines I'm most excited for are Ryan being in Corporate, Jan being a bum living with Michael and Pam/Jim (PB&J), haha.

What did you other fans think....?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I missed yesterdays ep.

will catch it online


was watching the "Titanic" aka Mets Season



:king:

[JustJon]

It was ok. The cat killing is pretty out there, so it was typical funny Dwight stuff.

Ryan in corporate will be cool.

And Jim manipulating the meeting was funny. Getting them to pay money for the giant check and the "nurse" was great.

[LiddyRules]

I've always been a fan of Ryan. I also thought that Pam looked really good with her hair tonight. I thought it was good, not great, but had its share of funny moments. Dwight/Angela had the best plotline.

[IamPixie]

SOOOOOOOO, what did you think?

I've been watching since day one and don't know how I felt about last night. I think they could have done a lot more, but it's only the first episode. Dwight killing the cat was pretty funny, the name of the fun run and some of the Meredith stuff were pretty good.

The storylines I'm most excited for are Ryan being in Corporate, Jan being a bum living with Michael and Pam/Jim (PB&J), haha.

What did you other fans think....?

it was last night? fuck....

[BeerBandit]

I don't think it was a particularly strong episode, but it was better than watching the Mets game. Definitely funnier in the second half during the fun run. And Earl was just good enough to keep me for one more episode, but it's still mostly ignorable.

[TheMojoPin]

Thursday night is the only night there are shows on I wanna see, so of course I work every goddamn Thursday night.

[paulisded]

I thought it started out slow, but the last 40 minutes or so ranks with any episode. I need to watch it again, as there were little bits I barely noticed (such as the warehouse guy hooking up with the "nurse".)

[Reephdweller]

I really liked it, I agree it started a little slow but picked up. I'm really interested in how the whole Ryan in corporate thing will work out.

[MikeB]

I watched and enjoyed up till about December last year and then started to watch and complain. Now I don't watch it anymore.

It seems like the people behind the american version lack creativity and are just like the Friends writers. Both shows are copies of great shows (UK office and seinfeld) and eventually the writers just decide to pair all the main characters up with each other.

So is the deal with Jan she got new tits and they have her in a push up every week?

[Reephdweller]

I watched and enjoyed up till about December last year and then started to watch and complain. Now I don't watch it anymore.

It seems like the people behind the american version lack creativity and are just like the Friends writers. Both shows are copies of great shows (UK office and seinfeld) and eventually the writers just decide to pair all the main characters up with each other.

So is the deal with Jan she got new tits and they have her in a push up every week?


I thought this last episode was pretty creative. You should go to the nbc website and watch it. I wasn't as crazy about last season as much, but this one was definitely a step up to me.

[TheMojoPin]

I It seems like the people behind the american version lack creativity and are just like the Friends writers. Both shows are copies of great shows (UK office and seinfeld) and eventually the writers just decide to pair all the main characters up with each other.

I can't buy the whole "the US version is just a copy of the UK version" thing anymore. I love the UK version, but the US version has done so much more with the characters (and developed more characters overall) than the UK version ever came close to.

[ChrisTheCop]

Well, I KNOW I'm in the minority here, but although I usually dig British humor, I just cant stomach the BBC version of this show. Maybe its cuz I like the US one so much, but Ive given it a few tries, and it always falls flat for me. Again, I know I'm alone here.

I'm also in the minority, it would seem, thinking that the season premiere on NBC was very funny in the BEGINNING, but the 2nd half just seemed drawn out, like..."we gotta make an hour long show".

All in all, I'm glad it's back.

[Ay Kay Forty2]

yea, I got kinda tired every time Michael Scott kept mentioning that he ran over Meredith. Yea, we know, we saw it.

Also, when they announced that their doing a 4th season, that they'd have 30 episode. That's crazy. That's where the hour long episodes come into play.

[JimBeam]

I've just started watching it in reruns on TBS and I love it.

I guess I've seen up to the 6th epsiode ( it's been on 3 weeks w/ 2 episodes a week ) so far.

I saw a cover of Entertainment Weekly w/ Michael and some chick ( who I didn't recognize being new to the show but apparently it's Jan ).

She looked like she had a killer rack but alas when I looked a tthe pics on IMDB this wasn;t the case.

I'll tell you that's some pushup bra she's using on the cover of the mag.

[JimBeam]

While reading up about the actress that plays Jan I came accross this little nugget :

Was cast as "Jennifer Parker" in Back to the Future (1985) after actress Claudia Wells dropped out of the film during preproduction (a television pilot ("Off the Rack" (1984)) Wells had recently filmed had been picked up by ABC for a six-episode run and the shooting schedules would have conflicted). Melora never shot a single frame of the movie, however; she was let go when Eric Stoltz was replaced by Michael J. Fox as the original Marty McFly because she was considered too tall to be his girlfriend. Wells was then brought back as Marty's girlfriend when her series didn't get picked up by ABC for a full season.

[Scottyflamingo]

Well, I KNOW I'm in the minority here, but although I usually dig British humor, I just cant stomach the BBC version of this show. Maybe its cuz I like the US one so much, but Ive given it a few tries, and it always falls flat for me. Again, I know I'm alone here.

I'm also in the minority, it would seem, thinking that the season premiere on NBC was very funny in the BEGINNING, but the 2nd half just seemed drawn out, like..."we gotta make an hour long show".

All in all, I'm glad it's back.

I agree about the UK Office. It does nothing for me. I saw the US one first and everyone kept saying the UK was better, so I checked it out. The UK's "Jim" is just a douche and has none of the likability of the US version. Ricky Gervais is great in it, but I think the supporting cast isn't there.

That said, I was underwhelmed by the Season 4 premiere. They are getting too far away from what made the show great. All of the characters are becoming crazy. Jan went from a straight laced boss with an irrational attraction to Michael, to a headcase. Creed's seedy past was always funny to me, but now they are just making it ridiculous with time in prison and cult activity. Also, I don't like Ryan being in corporate. It is just too unbelievable that a temp without a sale would be promoted over two members of middle management and an experience saleswoman.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

Ok-- the thing with the lake was just waaaaay over the top.

[IamPixie]

although it's been entertaining, I'm definitely not laughing as much as I have in the past.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I still find the show funny but part of me wishes they would address the fact that this documentary that is being filmed about this small paper company is still being filmed after a really long time. How much footage do you fucking need? I understand that's the point of the show, but that is what works so well in the UK version, they filmed for a while stopped then came back for an update and that's it

Another thing that bugged me last night was how can a company be headquartered in NYC but not have an up to date website before now? It doesn't cost much to setup a website (compared to maintaining corporate office space in Manhattan)

Third thing that bugged me was Ryan's gay facial hair. What the fuck is that? Just put "Temp Ryan" in a nice suit, have him yell at Michael and you've got "Corportate Ryan"

[JustJon]

although it's been entertaining, I'm definitely not laughing as much as I have in the past.

I agree. So far I'm just not feeling it this year, but still kinda enjoying it.


Third thing that bugged me was Ryan's gay facial hair. What the fuck is that? Just put "Temp Ryan" in a nice suit, have him yell at Michael and you've got "Corportate Ryan"

Don't forget the $200 haricut

[drjoek]

Still love the show But I think they are better off keeping the episodes at a 1/2 hour. Full hour gets to be too much Rather be wishing for a little more than to be overdone. I love when Kelly told Ryan she was pregnant just to get him to go out with her for a "date"

And Creed asking for red bull in the vending machine

[Doctor Manhattan]

Don't forget the $200 haricut

I just read that the actor who plays him (also a writer on the show) said "We wanted him to dress as obnoxious as possible. As much black as possible." so the facial hair is not a problem for me. I thought it was just him (The actor/writer, not the character) trying to be sexy.

[Doctor Manhattan]

...But I think they are better off keeping the episodes at a 1/2 hour. Full hour gets to be too much Rather be wishing for a little more than to be overdone.

Get ready for 2 more weeks of hour long shows. And then soon enough they'll be showing the "super sized" episodes ...

[drjoek]

Get ready for 2 more weeks of hour long shows. And then soon enough they'll be showing the "super sized" episodes ...

I don't mind hour just find it funnier when its shorter Ill take this over some of the other dreck out there
Cavemen anyone?

[LiddyRules]

I like last night's episode quite a bit. I prefer the show when it focuses on the business/gets a bit darker.

[zerothehero]

May not be known but aside from Ryan, but the actors that play Kelly and Toby are also writing episodes.

And I f-ing love Creed. One of my favorites (I think last season) where Creed thought Ryan set him up with a blog, "www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts", was just typed at the top of a Word document. <- the real one is here, http://blog.nbc.com/CreedThoughts/

[badorties]

Get ready for 2 more weeks of hour long shows. And then soon enough they'll be showing the "super sized" episodes ...

the first week was clearly two episodes ... the first one clearly eneded with jim getting in pam's car

NBC has ordered a full fourth season of The Office consisting of 30 half-hour segments, ten of which will be combined to form five one-hour specials. The first episode of season 4 premiered on September 27, 2007 in a new time slot, Thursdays at 9:00 (Eastern). On July 16, 2007, NBC announced that the season premiere will be one of the hour-long episodes. Later that day, Greg Daniels announced that the first 4 weeks of the show will run for an hour. (http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-hourlongofficeepisodes,0,6145855.story?coll=zap-tv-mainheadline)

[Ay Kay Forty2]

May not be known but aside from Ryan, but the actors that play Kelly and Toby are also writing episodes.

And I f-ing love Creed. One of my favorites (I think last season) where Creed thought Ryan set him up with a blog, "www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts", was just typed at the top of a Word document. <- the real one is here, http://blog.nbc.com/CreedThoughts/

If you were to put together all of Creed's past and what he says, he'd be a thing of legend.

[IamPixie]

And I f-ing love Creed. One of my favorites (I think last season) where Creed thought Ryan set him up with a blog, "www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts", was just typed at the top of a Word document. <- the real one is here, http://blog.nbc.com/CreedThoughts/


I forgot all about creedthoughts!
Creed is the only one right now literally making me laugh out loud. I love ink jet ink dye job.

[JimBeam]

OK so I just finished watching all of season 2 on DVD and I'm already bored of the Jim/Pam stuff.

It was cute/charming early on but I can't see going through a whole other season ( number 3 ) of that.

It's gotten very corny.

Plus I kinda find them to be assholes. Sure Dwight's an idiot and easy to make fun of but they just seem to be like that about everybody.

Fuck them.

I LOVE Angela. She's awesome.

I dig how she just says what she wants.

Michael's character is so great because he's painfully embarassing/inappropriate.

Friendat work's gonna lend me season 3 so I can catch up next week.

I missed the season opener but this past week's had some funny stuff.

[moochcassidy]

Friendat work's gonna lend me season 3 so I can catch up next week.



watch online here (http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/1/103)

ive been watching them this week..good stuff

[JimBeam]

Mooch that's awesome. Good call. Thanks for the hook-up.

I just watched a few minutes of episode 1 of season 3 and they mention that Jim left.

Am I missing something between the end of season 2 ( when Pam & Jim kiss ) to the start of season 3 ?

[JimBeam]

I just watched the little webisodes that I think are on the dvds.

Pretty funny.

[Doctor Manhattan]

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3129/office408sy3.jpg

Damn, I wanna punch this guy in the face.

When Michael said "Yeassshhh" at the beginning of the deposition, was that a call back to a previous episode? If so which one?

[badorties]

i thought he was just doing a bad impression of sean connery (or dave's hosp)

the diary scene was brilliant

other than that, the episode was a little rough ... the corporate aspect can be really hard to watch

i still love the show, although michael's really morphing into homer

when dwight was going on about his ping pong idols, he mentioned that he had a poster in his room ... did anyone remember seeing it in the bed/breakfast episode

[Doctor Manhattan]

Mr. Scott, Who is this other woman "Ryan" who you refer to as "just as hot as Jan but in a different way" That and Tobie laughing at it was fantastic. I wish Ryan was in the deposition.

[badorties]

That and Tobie laughing at it was fantastic. I wish Ryan was in the deposition.

i loved toby's revenge ....

[Furtherman]

The stenographer reading back what was said was the funniest thing I've seen on TV in a while. I was howling.

They hang off me lady's chest.

[TheMojoPin]

Michael silently shoving Toby's lunch and tray off of the table just when you think they might finally be connecting might be the single funniest moment I have ever seen on this show.

I love how Ryan and his "gang" all have the same shitty stubble-beards.

[WampusCrandle]

Michael silently shoving Toby's lunch and tray off of the table just when you think they might finally be connecting might be the single funniest moment I have ever seen on this show.

I love how Ryan and his "gang" all have the same shitty stubble-beards.

i laughed so damn hard when Michael did that. at that point, i thought it was going to be this moment where they were gonna acknowledge that the other person wasnt so bad, and they were gonna emotionally connect and . . . . . push push push SMASH goes the lunch tray. damn it.

[underdog]

Season came back tonight with a really uncomfortable, funny show.

[TheMojoPin]

Tonight was awesome. Jim and Pam's exchange when Jim tried to escape killed me.

[Phil_Nubbs]

The American version seems more interesting when they leave...the office. Good show tonight!

[underdog]

Tonight was awesome. Jim and Pam's exchange when Jim tried to escape killed me.

My wife and I laughed hard watching that scene. We'd both do the same thing in that situation.

[TheGameHHH]

I'm so glad this show is back, funny stuff tonight. I became a fan during the strike, watching most of the episodes on TBS re-runs. I'm all caught up now and I can't wait for the rest of the season!

[FMJeff]

I can wrap it up so far with one song.

You took me by the hand.
Made me a man.
That night (that night)
You made everything all right.


This show could be the best comedy on television ever. Sometimes I get a headache trying to decide between Curb, South Park (at its best) and The Office. The writing is so good...

That little plasma tv on the wall...so perfect. Good writing is knowing your characters, and nobody does that better than the Office.

[underdog]

Check out the deleted scenes from this past week's episode up on NBC.com.

But yeah, the show is fantastic. I get annoyed by people who won't watch it or say it sucks because its not the UK Office. I love both of them, but they're different shows.

[Slumbag]

That was truly a phenomenal episode.

I started watching that show, a fan of the original Office, wanting to hate it. But it is really goddamn good. From the first episode, the characters were great, and the progression of all of them have been incredible. Most shows cannot add characters that are any good, but Andy is now possibly the funniest character on the show. At its worst, it's still better than any other show on network television.

[TheGameHHH]

Hilarious show, can't wait for tomorrow night's episode.

[K.C.]

Eh...the episode this past week was funny, but this show isn't what it was.

Ever since the office merger episode, I feel this show has been on a down-turn, with a few hidden gems still in there (i.e. Andy, and the Schrute Farms episode)

[TooLowBrow]

recently this show just reminds me what ricky gervais said on o and a about how 'the office' is supposed to be taken from footage about a documentary on an office. so it works for a season or two. but then why would the documentarians follow people home, and while theyre out shopping or having a dinner party. it turns it into a different show. they should just make a spinoff show about people who arent in an office.
and, yes, the writing is funny and the actors are good.
theyve just reached the end of the original intent of the show

[K.C.]

recently this show just reminds me what ricky gervais said on o and a about how 'the office' is supposed to be taken from footage about a documentary on an office. so it works for a season or two. but then why would the documentarians follow people home, and while theyre out shopping or having a dinner party. it turns it into a different show. they should just make a spinoff show about people who arent in an office.
and, yes, the writing is funny and the actors are good.
theyve just reached the end of the original intent of the show

I'd say that's a pretty spot on assessment.

And don't get me wrong...I still like the show and would watch before a lot of stuff, but I think it's past its peak and I can't see it getting better than it was.

I will confess that, as horrible as I know it would be, a Schrute Farms spin-off would be the funniest and worst thing ever made.

[TheGameHHH]

recently this show just reminds me what ricky gervais said on o and a about how 'the office' is supposed to be taken from footage about a documentary on an office. so it works for a season or two. but then why would the documentarians follow people home, and while theyre out shopping or having a dinner party. it turns it into a different show. they should just make a spinoff show about people who arent in an office.
and, yes, the writing is funny and the actors are good.
theyve just reached the end of the original intent of the show

I also 100% agree, i think seasons 2 and 3 were the best. but the show can still be funny and entertaining. I dont pay too much attention to the whole "documentary" angle, i sort of act like it doesnt exist because at this point it really doesnt. now i just think of it as a funny way to film a show rather then it having another concept attached to it.

[Doctor Manhattan]

recently this show just reminds me what ricky gervais said on o and a about how 'the office' is supposed to be taken from footage about a documentary on an office. so it works for a season or two. but then why would the documentarians follow people home, and while theyre out shopping or having a dinner party. it turns it into a different show. they should just make a spinoff show about people who arent in an office.
and, yes, the writing is funny and the actors are good.
theyve just reached the end of the original intent of the show

I asked this same question back in October. As HHH mentioned, I try to just ignore this but there have been a few times when the do address the camera operator (The scene when the camera crew caught Pam and Jim kissing in his car before they revealed their relationship and then confronted the two with the footage) just bring up the documentary concept again and make it hard to ignore. As I mentioned back in that post, I know it's the whole format of the show and if they stop filming then the show is over, there is something to be said about Gervais' attitude toward his The Office and Extras. It doesn't have to keep going and going.

[Knowledged_one]

The first episode back of the Dinner party was great, i laughed the entire episode

this past week not so much

and i still get a kick out of Andy every time he calls Jim Big Tuna or Tuna

[drjoek]

I get a kick out of Andy and Angela's dating dynamic. She's just trying to F with Dwight but Andy tries to be romantic.Like in the dinner party when he grabs a flower out of the centerpiece for her and she like "Why?" or towards the end when theyre having ice cream and Andy grabs a lick of hers then she slams it into the side of his car. Too funny.



I noticed that Andy has a Cornell window sticker on the back of his car. Nice continuity touch.

[TheMojoPin]

I asked this same question back in October. As HHH mentioned, I try to just ignore this but there have been a few times when the do address the camera operator (The scene when the camera crew caught Pam and Jim kissing in his car before they revealed their relationship and then confronted the two with the footage) just bring up the documentary concept again and make it hard to ignore. As I mentioned back in that post, I know it's the whole format of the show and if they stop filming then the show is over, there is something to be said about Gervais' attitude toward his The Office and Extras. It doesn't have to keep going and going.

Personally, I don't see the dropoff a lot of people talk about with this show. I find the documentary aspect incidental...it was never as essential to the structure of the show as it was in the British version. The US version has always used it as an aspect of the show that's valuable when it's needed, but you can ignore/forget about it when it's not needed. I don't see why we should care about the "realism" of the supposed documentary crew...I think it's a unique "prop" they can use to great effect when it helps, and then basically put it away when it's not necessary (outside of the continuous "loose" style of shooting). Who cares if the documentary seems to be going on and on? Lots of documentaries are shot over the course of years, especially the "slice of life" ones like this would be. It really wouldn't be unrealistic for them to be filming there for the better part of a decade if they really wated to follow the "lives of the office park" for a completed structured documentary. You could argue the crew came in and then got caught up in following certain things (like Jim and Pam) ad waned to see them "resolved" for their final project. That's actually pretty common in documentaries about life's "mundane" things: show up and film and see where it takes you.

[TooLowBrow]

Personally, I don't see the dropoff a lot of people talk about with this show. I find the documentary aspect incidental...it was never as essential to the structure of the show as it was in the British version. The US version has always used it as an aspect of the show that's valuable when it's needed, but you can ignore/forget about it when it's not needed. I don't see why we should care about the "realism" of the supposed documentary crew...I think it's a unique "prop" they can use to great effect when it helps, and then basically put it away when it's not necessary (outside of the continuous "loose" style of shooting). Who cares if the documentary seems to be going on and on? Lots of documentaries are shot over the course of years, especially the "slice of life" ones like this would be. It really wouldn't be unrealistic for them to be filming there for the better part of a decade if they really wated to follow the "lives of the office park" for a completed structured documentary. You could argue the crew came in and then got caught up in following certain things (like Jim and Pam) ad waned to see them "resolved" for their final project. That's actually pretty common in documentaries about life's "mundane" things: show up and film and see where it takes you.

im sorry but this makes you come off as a dumb-i-eat-shit-and-like-it-american. no wonder the world hates us.
our biggest movies wouldve been deemed b movies 50 years ago. its all monster, alien, comic book crap.
our best television shows are from other countries. fine. but then they dumb them down for our consumption. 'people love 2 and a half men this season, so lets turn the office into a show about couples that go on dates'... ugh

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Spending some time in England, I realized that at least the British had a flavor for fecal matter themselves when it came to pop culture. You ever listen to the shit that become hits there? The days of Mozart are long gone. Keep in mind Europe recently made David Hasselhoff one of the all-time greatest performing pop artists (or was it just Germany?) Europe's art taste can for the most part eat my American turds and I'd probably get paid millions for it.

That said, there is a marked difference between the American and British versions...for all the reasons previously stated. I don't think that makes it any worse it just makes it different. Also, since the American version's been around for more seasons, there is naturally going to be an ever-increasing scent of shit that permeates the show, as it does all shows that linger too long.

Gervais is a genius. Carrell is not.

[TheMojoPin]

im sorry but this makes you come off as a dumb-i-eat-shit-and-like-it-american. no wonder the world hates us.
our biggest movies wouldve been deemed b movies 50 years ago. its all monster, alien, comic book crap.
our best television shows are from other countries. fine. but then they dumb them down for our consumption. 'people love 2 and a half men this season, so lets turn the office into a show about couples that go on dates'... ugh

...

What? I have absolutely no idea how you get anything even close to your rambling diatribe from what I posted.

I love how you didn't bold the parts that explained exactly why I don't think the show is significantly "dumbed down." How can you condemn the US version for having portions of the show about people dating, when much of the UK show revolved around Tim and Dawn getting together (and her issues with her boyfriend at the time) and Brent's failures (and then finally success) in dating? How is the UK version "smarter" by resolving those issues with pat, tiday "happy endings" while the US version has very skillfully turned the "what happens next" into very well written and acted comedic AND dramatic developments?

And let's stop with the asinine notion that the US version is somehow drastically "dumber" than the UK version. It's not. The UK version was just shorter, more hinged on the documentary format and relied more on cringe moments than out and out humor. I absolutely love the UK version, but I find the insisted attempts to compare the US and UK versions as one being better than the other as being pointless as that both are excellent for completely different reasons and styles of humor.

I don't want the US version to go on and on...I would actually like it if the next season is a full one and the final one...but the notion that the US version is inherrently weaker simply because it's been on longer than the UK version doesn't hold a lot of water. Outside of the first episodes and the basic structure, the developing stories and characters of both have been drastically different. It's ultimately pointless to try and use one as a "model" for the other.

[TooLowBrow]

Outside of the first episodes and the basic structure, the developing stories and characters of both have been drastically different. It's ultimately pointless to try and use one as a "model" for the other.

but they DID use it as a model. you mentioned this with the first episodes, structure, and character bases.
after a while they left that model. the show is no longer about working in an office. i dont even see the background people doing any work.
i just dont get why they originally modeled it after the brit version if they werent going to keep it similar. they should have started out as their own original show.

[TheMojoPin]

but they DID use it as a model. you mentioned this with the first episodes, structure, and character bases.

They used an outline...office, documentary being filmed, clueless boss, young guy in the office has a crush on the receptionist, weird guy in the office, fat guy in accounting. Those are the things that are obviously closest to the UK version.

after a while they left that model.

They "left" most of the details of the model right away. Michael only acted like David in the very first episode. Since then, he's been a very different type of awful boss than David. Outside of the basic relationships (Jim and Pam and them battling with Dwight), those characters are all clearly different than their UK counterparts, and well-defined and drawn out as their own characters. Beyond that, they've expaded the backup characters far more than the UK show ever did, and to great effect. Outside of having two office fat guys, the suppoting casts are incredibly different, and the US version has run with that and made some great characters out of them. It would be one thing if the US version focused mostly on the 4 main characters like the UK office did, but it has a much larger contributing cast. The US version is much more of an ensemble show than the UK version.

the show is no longer about working in an office. i dont even see the background people doing any work.

I'm not sure what you want here. We see characters at their desks on the phone, writing or using their computer all the time. Most of the UK version wasn't about actual "work" either. It was about dicking around at the office. Yeah, the US version has been ale to branch out, but it's still centered around the office. It's hinged on these characters only knowing each other through work. "The office" is still the defining spirit/setting of the show because everything is based out of it.

i just dont get why they originally modeled it after the brit version if they werent going to keep it similar. they should have started out as their own original show.

Because the concept of a loose documentary-style show in an "average office" is funny. The UK version is much more in the traditional sitcom mold of having only a small core of characters whereas the US version is clearly an ensemble show, something which i tough to do and usualy makes for great sitcoms (a la Arrested Development and Newsradio). It seems hypocritical to complain that the show isn't original when you've just been slamming or ignoring all the ways the US version made itself, right from the 2nd episode, different and unique.

[Doctor Manhattan]

One big difference between the way the UK and US versions were/are made: The BBC2 Office was written and directed by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant while the NBC Office has a larger number of writers (including Ricky and Stephen for that first episode and a Season 3 episode) and directors (including some well know directors like J.J. Abrams, Harold Ramis, Jason Reitman, Amy Heckerling and Joss Whedon)

Ricky and Gervais wanted to move on so they did.

[TheMojoPin]

One big difference between the way the UK and US versions were/are made: The BBC2 Office was written and directed by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant while the NBC Office has a larger number of writers (including Ricky and Stephen for that first episode and a Season 3 episode) and directors (including some well know directors like J.J. Abrams, Harold Ramis, Jason Reitman, Amy Heckerling and Joss Whedon)

Ricky and Gervais wanted to move on so they did.

True, though the US version has maintained similar stability, what with Toby, Kelly and Ryan all main writers and still with the show, as well as Dwight's cousin Mose (AKA Ken Tremendous from FireJoeMorgan.com). Ideally, when all or most of them want to move on, the show will end.

[Doctor Manhattan]

...as well as Dwight's cousin Mose (AKA Ken Tremendous from FireJoeMorgan.com).

I had no idea he was a writer too. Brilliant!

[TheGameHHH]

So......Ryan's a coke head. Interesting.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I really like how Michael reminded Ryan that it was Dwight and Michael that Ryan was so happy to see.

And they gave that guy I posted a picture of here (http://ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1519252&postcount=35) a name. Loved the hobbit angle, loved Dwight pouring the drink out: "Nice Try!" Also loved that the girl who couldn't get enough of Schrute lovin'. So I guess Dwight made the show for me last night.

[TheGameHHH]

very funny season finale.....kevin as a retard was hilarious

[hammersavage]

Yeah, last night was a great episode, almost to the level of the UK series BECAUSE of the emotional gravity that some of the scenes had.

Which is something the show doesn't have every week, frankly can't have every week because its gonna be on for 100+ episodes.

The UK version could move the story along because it was 13 eps. and felt more tangible because of the documentary aspect, I've never felt an emotional connection to a character on a standard sitcom which is what the US version has become.

Last night had the realism and emotion that made the UK version so great, hope to see it more next season.

The Kevin retard subplot was hilarious and didn't know Amy Ryan was gonna be on, she's fantastic. Miss Toby.....

[Doctor Manhattan]

Does anyone know if the actors/writers who play Ryan and Toby are still going to be writing on the show or are they moving on?

Toby's crush on Pam is really sad.

Loved the closing shot of Angela! (Mirrors the Jim/Pam kiss at the end of Season 2 but steps it up a few notches)

I am pretty sure Kevin isn't too far from actually being "mentally challenged".

[TheMojoPin]

It was so hysterical how easy it was to make Kevin seem retarded.

Awesome seaosn finale, but I would be really happy if they wrapped everything up and made next season the last one. And don't fuck around and have Jim and Pam breaking up and getting back together.

[WampusCrandle]

Third thing that bugged me was Ryan's gay facial hair. What the fuck is that? Just put "Temp Ryan" in a nice suit, have him yell at Michael and you've got "Corportate Ryan"

well, its a scummy facial hair, and oscar was hilarious on the finale saying that it all caught up with him, with his stupid beard

Yeah, last night was a great episode, almost to the level of the UK series BECAUSE of the emotional gravity that some of the scenes had. The Kevin retard subplot was hilarious and didn't know Amy Ryan was gonna be on, she's fantastic. Miss Toby.....

i completely agree, Amy Ryan is going to be great, Kevin was too funny. I'll miss Toby, but he got really creepy in the last episode

Toby's crush on Pam is really sad.

Loved the closing shot of Angela! (Mirrors the Jim/Pam kiss at the end of Season 2 but steps it up a few notches)

I am pretty sure Kevin isn't too far from actually being "mentally challenged".

like before, i thought his crush on Pam was kinda sad, but it got full blown creepy when he touched Pam's knee and jumped the fence, and then now needing to run and buy cameras so he could be in a picture with her. and, in turn, making Pam question her little friendship with Toby and the lack of proposal from Jim. and i cant believe that Andy asked Angela to marry him, stealing all of Jim's thunder.

and yes, Kevin puts his seatbelt on just like the rest of us . . . . that god damn curve ball from him made me flip, making me think that Jan was carrying Micheal's baby.

i love this show PERIOD

[TheMojoPin]

well, its a scummy facial hair, and oscar was hilarious on the finale saying that it all caught up with him, with his stupid beard

Yeah, they've been making fun of the halfassed beard all season. It's supposed to look awful and poseur-ish. I loved how when we first saw Ryan in NYC, his entire little corporate "gang" all had the same suits and phones and haircuts and terrible facial hair.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Third thing that bugged me was Ryan's gay facial hair. What the fuck is that? Just put "Temp Ryan" in a nice suit, have him yell at Michael and you've got "Corportate Ryan"
well, its a scummy facial hair, and oscar was hilarious on the finale saying that it all caught up with him, with his stupid beard

Yeah, I posted that a while ago before I knew what they were going for. I posted a reply right after that explaining that I thought it was B. J. Novak trying to be sexy but I read that was part of the Ryan character, I did not expect him to be arrested for corporate fraud. They should have had a Wall Street tracking shot of him being arrested walking out of the NY office and crying

[K.C.]

I have to admit, I've been down on The Office, but that episode was awesome.

[WampusCrandle]

did any office fans see the SNL digital short this past saturday. it had Ricky Gervais making fun of the american Office and saying he got the idea for it from the japanese version. i was rollin' laughing

[underdog]

did any office fans see the SNL digital short this past saturday. it had Ricky Gervais making fun of the american Office and saying he got the idea for it from the japanese version. i was rollin' laughing

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[WampusCrandle]

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mmmmm perfection

[Phil_Nubbs]

Enough with Jim and Pam. :wallbash:

[TheMojoPin]

Enough with Jim and Pam. :wallbash:

That's an odd complaint...

[Phil_Nubbs]

That's an odd complaint...

Why?! Isn't the idea to build toward the relationship? Where do they go if the series hangs on for four more years? Where's the tension? The fact that they're together now...only means that the writers will have the couple fall apart again and again. Instant gratification, Yo! I don't think it's an "odd complaint".

Why are there so many office couples anyway? Oh, women won't get it, eh? It just doesn't seem like there are long term plans , that's all.

[TheGameHHH]

Why?! Isn't the idea to build toward the relationship? Where do they go if the series hangs on for four more years? Where's the tension? The fact that they're together now...only means that the writers will have the couple fall apart again and again. Instant gratification, Yo! I don't think it's an "odd complaint".

Why are there so many office couples anyway? Oh, women won't get it, eh? It just doesn't seem like there are long term plans , that's all.

its argueable that theyre tension went on too long already before they got together. if they never became a couple would you really want to see another 4 years of awkward tension that no real humans would have without actually fucking? them getting together made sense on a lot of levels. one more year would be perfect and then the show should end.

[Furtherman]

would you really want to see another 4 years of awkward tension that no real humans would have without actually fucking?

Have you heard of Earl? How about Fez?

[TheMojoPin]

Why?! Isn't the idea to build toward the relationship? Where do they go if the series hangs on for four more years? Where's the tension? The fact that they're together now...only means that the writers will have the couple fall apart again and again. Instant gratification, Yo! I don't think it's an "odd complaint".

I'll be very surprised if next season doesn't end up being the final one. Too many people from the show, in front of the camra and on the writing staff, keep getting bigger and bigger, and they're not gonna stick with a podunk sitcom when Hollywood is calling. So far they've handled Jim and Pam together very unlike other sitcoms...they seem very happy together and none of the stupid series of break ups and getting back together. If they take that cliched path, OK, it makes sense to complain about it, but in the meantime, it's been very different than pretty much any other sitcom.

[Doctor Manhattan]

did any office fans see the SNL digital short this past saturday. it had Ricky Gervais making fun of the american Office and saying he got the idea for it from the japanese version. i was rollin' laughing

Loved it.

It's funny 'cause it's racist!

[badorties]

amy ryan put her hand on michael's arm during the party, she looks down and there's an awkward moment and she walks away ... was michael arroused ...?

[Knowledged_one]

Am i the only one that realized the new HR chick is from the Wire and played McNulty's wife?

And its not like Jim and Pam apart are any different then Jim and Pam together

They still do the pranks on Dwight and the episode at Dwights beet farm was great

[WampusCrandle]

Am i the only one that realized the new HR chick is from the Wire and played McNulty's wife?

And its not like Jim and Pam apart are any different then Jim and Pam together

They still do the pranks on Dwight and the episode at Dwights beet farm was great

we all know that they will end up together. but there was that creepy moment with toby when they were taking pictures together.... it didnt sit right with me.

[hammersavage]

Am i the only one that realized the new HR chick is from the Wire and played McNulty's wife?

probably not considering she was just nominated for an Ocsar. she has a pretty big profile now.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

amy ryan put her hand on michael's arm during the party, she looks down and there's an awkward moment and she walks away ... was michael arroused ...?

Maybe he just had a Chunky in his pocket?

[TheGameHHH]

Am i the only one that realized the new HR chick is from the Wire and played McNulty's wife?

And its not like Jim and Pam apart are any different then Jim and Pam together

They still do the pranks on Dwight and the episode at Dwights beet farm was great

im sure most Wire fans knew it was her

[TooLowBrow]

anyone see tonights webisode?

[Willmore]

Darryl is a methhead.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html


So that's what they always do in the warehouse.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Darryl is a methhead.

Darryl and Michael are gonna have to fleece it out!

[TonyStark]

I'm going to have to keep up with these webisodes, I wasn't even sure they were back for between this season.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

If Darryl gets written out I wonder if that means Patrice's character will get more air time.

[angrymissy]

Darryl is a methhead.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html


So that's what they always do in the warehouse.

Sometimes when you get nailed for possession of E, they will also call it "Methamphetamine" (methylene-dioxy-methyl-amphetamine).

[TheGameHHH]

anybody see the new episode tonight? i thought it was funny

[Slumbag]

I saw it. It was pretty funny.

Not too happy about Steve Carrel with the David Brent goatee.

[TheGameHHH]

I saw it. It was pretty funny.

Not too happy about Steve Carrel with the David Brent goatee.

i thought thats what made the goatee funny, especially after the Emmys

[Slumbag]

i thought thats what made the goatee funny, especially after the Emmys

I'm literally watching that clip right now. Hilarious. He's really letting him have it.

But I think that episode of the Office was made before a couple of weeks ago.

[Sue_Bender]

I don't get it.

I didn't laugh at all.

Maybe I'm expecting too much...


I'd like the U.S. version to be funny. Fuck me and my pre-conceptions. :blink:

[WampusCrandle]

I'd like the U.S. version to be funny. Fuck me and my pre-conceptions. :blink:

......FUCK YOU :happy:

[Doctor Manhattan]

The original version of The Office is always going to be better than the US version. Just the fact that is was original is enough to make it so, but there is something that Ricky and Stephen did that will not be matched (Even by themselves, they wrote an episode of the US show a couple seasons back)

If there wasn't such a better version out there some people wouldn't crap on the US The Office. It's better than most sitcoms.

Ryan apologized to Jim for what he did to him last year. What did he do? I can't remember.

I'm not very comfortable with Ryan transforming back to Temp Ryan from the Corporate Ryan, I think I'm going to enjoy that uncomfortably.

[Aggie]

The original version of The Office is always going to be better than the US version. Just the fact that is was original is enough to make it so, but there is something that Ricky and Stephen did that will not be matched (Even by themselves, they wrote an episode of the US show a couple seasons back)

If there wasn't such a better version out there some people wouldn't crap on the US The Office. It's better than most sitcoms.

Ryan apologized to Jim for what he did to him last year. What did he do? I can't remember.

I'm not very comfortable with Ryan transforming back to Temp Ryan from the Corporate Ryan, I think I'm going to enjoy that uncomfortably.


He was a real dick to Jim last year about Jim making his sales and was always belittling him. Then Jim left a voicemail for Ryan basically telling him to suck it...then Ryan got arrested.

I thought it was funny. I LOVE the UK version but I look at this as a totally separate show. If you can do that I think it's one of the funniest shows on TV. The acapella group thing with Andy cracks me up.

And the engagement was so cute. :wub:

[K.C.]

Can we stop this UK version vs. US verison thing?? Every year, the same debate. Everything that needs to be said about it has been said.


Anyway, I thought it was a good premiere. I like the addition of the new chick that replaced Toby, and it looks like she's going to pay a pretty big role.

[WampusCrandle]

Can we stop this UK version vs. US verison thing?? Every year, the same debate. Everything that needs to be said about it has been said.


Anyway, I thought it was a good premiere. I like the addition of the new chick that replaced Toby, and it looks like she's going to pay a pretty big role.

agreed. i almost feel bad for Toby while he sat in that hospital.

[ChrisBrown]

I completely agree about how boring the US vs. UK Office argument is. The first US season was closely tied to the UK version but then it became its own thing. A character like Andy is so East Coast American and marks a departure from the British show. I love that he went to Cornell and is such an arrogant prick about it. I know several people exactly like him in Manhattan. I know one douche who could be Andy's brother. He studied hotel management at Ithaca and is so proud that he got an Ivy League education. He now works in marketing for a t.v. channel and hasn't used one bit of his expensive education but has that Andy attitude that is uniquely American upper class.

[TheMojoPin]

Finally saw the premier and really enjoyed it. Stanley kicks ass, and some great Creed asides. The proposal was pretty awesome, too.

[K.C.]

Very cute ending with Michael.

Just like with David Brent in the original, I really like when Michael finally does get a W after making an ass of himself.

I'll set an over/under of four episodes before he screws it up, though.


They really need to set an ending date for this show, a la Lost.

I can see them having one more solid season after this to wrap the whole thing up, but they need to start thinking about an exit strategy with the show.

Plus I can't imagine Carell is going to do two or three more seasons, even though they've been pretty accommodating about when he wants to do movies.

[cogsdoc]

Where is my golden shower Phyllis?

[Willmore]

I'm a guy, but I love the cute Jim/Pam relationship and that ending was great.

[cogsdoc]

I'm a guy, but I love the cute Jim/Pam relationship and that ending was great.

We understand Fez

[Willmore]

We understand Fez

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[vagina envy]

I don't really know about this season. Its seems like Dwight is just completely nuts and has lost the subtlety that made his character great in the first place.

[WampusCrandle]

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wow, just great! :lol::lol:

[WampusCrandle]

michael screaming at toby in the beginning had me laughing on the floor.

[Aggie]

I've always loved his somewhat irrational hatred of Toby. Hilarious.

So glad Pam is back.

The Angela/Andy wedding at Schrute farms, can't wait for that story line to develop.

[Aggie]

On a side note, I think a mod needs to change this thread title. For some reason we started posting about Season 6 in this Season 5 thread.

Just a suggestion. :wink wink:

[WampusCrandle]

I've always loved his somewhat irrational hatred of Toby. Hilarious.

So glad Pam is back.

The Angela/Andy wedding at Schrute farms, can't wait for that story line to develop.

i cant wait for that wedding. beets will be flying!

the hate between Toby and Michael was something that I actually missed.

[ChrisTheCop]

Has this song made a comeback I'm not aware of?

First, Jimmy Smits (and Harry) whistle it on Dexter.
Now Michael sings it on The Office.

[badorties]

toby's back and all is right

[drjoek]

Gotta love Toby:thumbup:

[TheMojoPin]

Has this song made a comeback I'm not aware of?

First, Jimmy Smits (and Harry) whistle it on Dexter.
Now Michael sings it on The Office.

Public domain. TV shows love to save a buck.

[Aggie]

I loved last nights episode. I thought it was very funny and loved the interaction of Jim & Dwight as party planners.

I wanted to check who had been writing this year and my two favorites of the season are the only ones written by Mindy Kaling (Kelly) this year. I checked her IMDB and her writing credits are for some of my favorite episodes since the show started. Bravo to Mindy! :clap:

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

The Injury used to be my favorite episode, but the first 4 or 5 minutes of Stress Management transcends The Injury.

"Use the surge of fear and adrenaline to sharpen your decision making!:

"The fire's shooting at us!"

"Stanley! You will not die! Barack Obama is President!"

I snotted into my glass of diet coke when Kevin looted the candy machine.

BRAVO!!!

[hammersavage]

The Injury used to be my favorite episode, but the first 4 or 5 minutes of Stress Management transcends The Injury.

"The fire's shooting at us!"

"Stanley! You will not die! Barack Obama is President!"

I snotted into my glass of diet coke when Kevin looted the candy machine.

BRAVO!!!

The opener in that episode may have been the funniest 5 minutes in the shows history. It was so absurd and great.

I love Creed and everything he does. And the Nard Dog.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I love Creed and everything he does.

I love how he gave Andy dating advice by saying that's how he landed Squeaky Fromme.

CLASSIC SHOW!!!!!

[WampusCrandle]

Michael screaming for Stanley to wake up and trying to jam his wallet in his mouth was killing me. too funny.

[badorties]

the camera gimmick is taking me out of the show

last week's episode had micheal go to another branch and try to get closure with holly ... she's not there, and he strikes up a conversation with her current boyfriend -- who has no idea who michael is

if holly worked in a branch with a constant camera crew, had a tryst with the manager and had to re-locate because of the said tryst -- wouldn't the new guy have an idea

also, wouldn't everyone in the NH branch be put off by a camera crew suddenly in their office

[Aggie]

the camera gimmick is taking me out of the show

last week's episode had micheal go to another branch and try to get closure with holly ... she's not there, and he strikes up a conversation with her current boyfriend -- who has no idea who michael is

if holly worked in a branch with a constant camera crew, had a tryst with the manager and had to re-locate because of the said tryst -- wouldn't the new guy have an idea

also, wouldn't everyone in the NH branch be put off by a camera crew suddenly in their office

You're way to concerned about the cameras! Enjoy teh funny!

[badorties]

You're way to concerned about the cameras! Enjoy teh funny!

i think i'm finding the show less funny of late, and i'm letting little things get to me

[Aggie]

i think i'm finding the show less funny of late, and i'm letting little things get to me

The show is past its peak but I still think something is hilarious every episode. You may be ready to give up on it. That's what I did with Fringe and Heroes.

[Sue_Bender]

The show is past its peak but I still think something is hilarious every episode. You may be ready to give up on it. That's what I did with Fringe and Heroes.

It seems like I was always waiting for it to hit its peak. I guess it must have, and I didn't realize it at the time. It just bores me now...but I keep watching and hoping.

[hammersavage]

Another new episode tonight called 'The Golden Ticket'. I look forward to it.

[TooLowBrow]

Another new episode tonight called 'The Golden Ticket'. I look forward to it.

this is the summary on imdb

Michael comes up with an idea that causes a huge problem in the office.

i think i've seen this one...:blink:

[WampusCrandle]

holy shit, just watched the most recent episode! I can't believe that Michael Scott just quit! looks like the show may be ending very soon. and, i liked that Idris Elba, AKA Stringer Bell, was in it - i love random Wire spottings throughout television

[TheMojoPin]

While I'd be really happy if the show ended after this season, I think all of the main actors are signed through next season.

[TheGameHHH]

holy shit, just watched the most recent episode! I can't believe that Michael Scott just quit! looks like the show may be ending very soon. and, i liked that Idris Elba, AKA Stringer Bell, was in it - i love random Wire spottings throughout television

just saw that dirty little weasel Scott Tempelton in Duplicity last night. I also love the random Wire character sightings.

i know Stringer is on for a least a few more episodes

[hammersavage]

just saw that dirty little weasel Scott Tempelton in Duplicity last night. I also love the random Wire character sightings.

I hated Templeton and it sucks cuz he's one of the better directors working today and I love his work but I hate his face.

[WampusCrandle]

oh god, i feel just awful watching this episode ... i'm just glad that michael quit and Pam just busted some balls with joining Michael in his new "venture"

[paulisded]

I've felt that this season has been a bit lacking, but tonight's was very good. Jim no longer being the golden boy is a nice twist on his character, and Michael not being able to give his big goodbye speech was classic.

[TheMojoPin]

Stringer is a really handsome man. I resent him for his handsomeness, and I also resent that he can bust out a smooth British accent on top of it. Talk about rolling genetic double 7's.

[cogsdoc]

The only thing missing from this episode was Jay Mohr oh and a goldfish

[Bob Impact]

Michael crawling around at the end was priceless... "Stomp your foot if you're coming with me!"

[TheGameHHH]

The only thing missing from this episode was Jay Mohr oh and a goldfish

agreed.....yet i still found it funny

[ChrisTheCop]

the camera gimmick is taking me out of the show

last week's episode had micheal go to another branch and try to get closure with holly ... she's not there, and he strikes up a conversation with her current boyfriend -- who has no idea who michael is

if holly worked in a branch with a constant camera crew, had a tryst with the manager and had to re-locate because of the said tryst -- wouldn't the new guy have an idea



You're way to concerned about the cameras! Enjoy teh funny!

Maybe this will help.

They're filming a documentary.
Most documentaries arent viewed as it's happening, and who knows if this documentary will ever be seen? No one on the show has ever mentioned seeing it anywhere.

[TonyStark]

I've felt that this season has been a bit lacking, but tonight's was very good. Jim no longer being the golden boy is a nice twist on his character, and Michael not being able to give his big goodbye speech was classic.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting how Jim is going to have to work his way back to the top once again and it seems like the guy actually doesn't like him that much at all.

[WampusCrandle]

Yeah, it's going to be interesting how Jim is going to have to work his way back to the top once again and it seems like the guy actually doesn't like him that much at all.

yea, its gonna be hard for Jim, and i feel like he is looked at as if he is the new Dwight.

[hammersavage]

New episode at 8 and 9 with the premiere of Parks and Recreations sandwiched in between.


8 o'clock summary: After getting off on the wrong foot with his new supervisor, Charles, Jim finds himself face to face with the new boss in a soccer game in the Dunder Mifflin parking lot. Meanwhile, Michael, afraid to face the workday, has trouble leaving his house.

9 o'clock summary: Dwight and Andy strike up an unlikely friendship and plan a hunting trip. Regional Supervisor Charles asks Jim for a "rundown", and Jim spends his day trying to figure out what that is. Michael hosts a Paper & Pancakes luncheon.


Hope they bring teh funny.

[disneyspy]

kevin as the receptionist is gonna be fun,that opener was the best in a long time

[hammersavage]

P&R is okay so far. The speech Aziz gave at the meeting was hilarious.

[hammersavage]

'It's Britney, bitch' was hilarious.

[paulisded]

I'm in love with the new girl.

[hammersavage]

She is purty.


But there is no one better than the Nard Dog.

[TheMojoPin]

Nobody is purtier than Stringer.

[Marc with a c]

mcnulty is.

[TheMojoPin]

Racist.

[Marc with a c]

i love black people.

[TheMojoPin]

I meant that you hate the British.

[Marc with a c]

everybody hates the british.

[TheMojoPin]

But not the sexy ones.

Because there's only 4 of them.

[WampusCrandle]

just watched the two episodes from this past week - i felt really depressed.

[TooLowBrow]

why are they doing 2 new shows on thursdays now?

[WampusCrandle]

why are they doing 2 new shows on thursdays now?

i think it was a special because it was the series premiere of Park and Recreation

[TooLowBrow]

i think it was a special because it was the series premiere of Park and Recreation

oh. it was kinda like watching 3 episodes of the office

[WampusCrandle]

holy shit, Stringer Bell is a massive cunt. i just can't believe that he likes Dwight over Jim, and is a major kiss ass.

[TheMojoPin]

Michael is awesome.

Fuck David Brent.

[WampusCrandle]

Michael is awesome.

Fuck David Brent.

this was an really good episode.

[TheMojoPin]

this was an really good episode.

This whole arc has been very good. Honestly, this would have been a great way to wrap up the show's final season. I wish they weren't pushing their luck.

[Foster]

what happens to the van?

[Doctor Manhattan]

Michael is awesome.

Fuck David Brent.

Re: David Brent: You, Sir, are clinically insane.

Michael is like a mix of Forest Gump and Rain Man, things just fall into his lap and once in a while can do amazing things but is generally a retart.

That was an excellent episode. Directed by Steve Carell too!

[drjoek]

I laughed outloud when the Koreans kept trying to climg into the van.

[WampusCrandle]

That was an excellent episode. Directed by Steve Carell too!

it was, well, he did a great job

[TheMojoPin]

Re: David Brent: You, Sir, are clinically insane.

Michael is like a mix of Forest Gump and Rain Man, things just fall into his lap and once in a while can do amazing things but is generally a retart.

Michael can at least have moments of skill. Hell, he was clearly an excellent salesman. David Brent is barely a functioning human being. The more I think about it the more the UK series annoys me bcause of Brent. Brent could never have possibly done ANYTHING that Michael has done.

[hammersavage]

Michael can at least have moments of skill. Hell, he was clearly an excellent salesman. David Brent is barely a functioning human being. The more I think about it the more the UK series annoys me bcause of Brent. Brent could never have possibly done ANYTHING that Michael has done.

I feel the exact opposite.

[TheMojoPin]

I really don't see how. We never see Brent even remotely resembling some kind of functional professional on ANY level. I can't imagine for a second what kind of job he'd be able to hold down for any period of time much less one he'd actually be good at. With the US version we've at least seen and gotten an idea of how Michael would have thrived at being a salesman. How could Brent have managed the same? He's never anything short of totally incompetent and basically hated by everyone that encounters him.

[hammersavage]

I really don't see how. We never see Brent even remotely resembling some kind of functional professional on ANY level. I can't imagine for a second what kind of job he'd be able to hold down for any period of time much less one he'd actually be good at.

And you think Michael does? He has to get told simple tasks at every moment. He didn't start out that way, that just made him more and more retarded over time. Brent never ever ever was as dumb as Michael.

[TheMojoPin]

And you think Michael does? He has to get told simple tasks at every moment. He didn't start out that way, that just made him more and more retarded over time. Brent never ever ever was as dumb as Michael.

We've seen again and again how Michael would make a very good salesman. He's just a terrible boss. Michael is an idiot and a complete dork, but he's able to pull it together from time to time in the right situations if he's selling. Brent doesn't seem capable of doing anything besides being awful.

[hammersavage]

We've seen again and again how Michael would make a very good salesman. He's just a terrible boss. Michael is an idiot and a complete dork, but he's able to pull it together from time to time in the right situations if he's selling. Brent doesn't seem capable of doing anything besides being awful.

That wasn't the point of the British series. It only lasted 13 episodes so you never get to see the salesman side. Michael has done way dumber things than Brent ever did.

Same for Dwight. He's more over the top than Gareth ever was. They really had to hammer home jokes for stupid Americans.

[TheMojoPin]

That wasn't the point of the British series. It only lasted 13 episodes so you never get to see the salesman side. Michael has done way dumber things than Brent ever did.

Same for Dwight. He's more over the top than Gareth ever was. They really had to hammer home jokes for stupid Americans.

I'm not saying that Michael isn't dumber than Brent. Michael is at least an idiot savant. Even in the 1st season of the US version you see Michael showing he can at least do something.

And man, way to be the Office snob. Nothing needed to be "hammered home." They've just had more time to branch out. They've also had more time to develop most of the office as characters as opposed to caricatures.

[hammersavage]

I'm not saying that Michael isn't dumber than Brent. Michael is at least an idiot savant. Even in the 1st season of the US version you see Michael showing he can at least do something.

And man, way to be the Office snob. Nothing needed to be "hammered home." They've just had more time to branch out. They've also had more time to develop most of the office as characters as opposed to caricatures.

Oh, I am an Office snob. The british one is just a higher level of humor, no doubt about it.

I love the American one but they are just more apparent with their humor. So midwest folk can get it.

[TheMojoPin]

I love the UK version, but what's so "higher" about it? It's excellent, but it's nothing highbrow or earth-shattering. "Work sucks" is pretty common man.

[hammersavage]

I love the UK version, but what's so "higher" about it? It's excellent, but it's nothing highbrow or earth-shattering. "Work sucks" is pretty common man.

'Work sucks' is what you got out of that show???? That's really how you describe it?

How you could watch the UK version and not think its 100 times more subtle than the American version is hard to understand for someone I know is smart.

[TheMojoPin]

'Work sucks' is what you got out of that show???? That's really how you describe it?

How you could watch the UK version and not think its 100 times more subtle than the American version is hard to understand for someone I know is smart.

That really is the crux of it. There's really no way around it. It's bumped up by excellent performances, scripts and ad-libs and the faux-documentary format.

It's clearly near the very top of the sitcom heap, but let's not trip ourselves acting like it's some sitcom revelation. I've personally never agreed with the idea that it's "so much more" than all other sitcoms. It's very much ingrained in and indebted to themes, styles and formats seen and done just as capably elsewhere.

Here I'll expand...if you want to boil it down it's basically "work sucks" + office politics + Spinal Tap. Nobody's re-inventing the sitcom wheel here.

I also don't think "more subtle" automatically means better. I'd argue that it shows that the UK version simply could not go broad as cleverly as the US version has.

[WampusCrandle]

And you think Michael does? He has to get told simple tasks at every moment. He didn't start out that way, that just made him more and more retarded over time. Brent never ever ever was as dumb as Michael.

as dumb as Michael may be, he was never as delusional as Brent, who is also a complete jerk off (that is already known).

I love the UK version, but what's so "higher" about it? It's excellent, but it's nothing highbrow or earth-shattering. "Work sucks" is pretty common man.

'Work sucks' is what you got out of that show???? That's really how you describe it?

How you could watch the UK version and not think its 100 times more subtle than the American version is hard to understand for someone I know is smart.

why is that subtle is somehow funnier than direct?

i actually just wrote an entire paper on the differences between the British and American Office, as well as the French, Canadian, and German versions. Sure, people will find preferences for one over the other, but it has been seen that people will prefer many things that are foreign to home grown; these shows and people's reaction to the shows are no different. It really is some form of having or adding highbrow culture to one's life.

[hammersavage]

That really is the crux of it. There's really no way around it. It's bumped up by excellent performances, scripts and ad-libs and the faux-documentary format.

It's clearly near the very top of the sitcom heap, but let's not trip ourselves acting like it's some sitcom revelation. I've personally never agreed with the idea that it's "so much more" than all other sitcoms. It's very much ingrained in and indebted to themes, styles and formats seen and done just as capably elsewhere.

Here I'll expand...if you want to boil it down it's basically "work sucks" + office politics + Spinal Tap. Nobody's re-inventing the sitcom wheel here.

I also don't think "more subtle" automatically means better. I'd argue that it shows that the UK version simply could not go broad as cleverly as the US version has.


So the argument to you became praising a show while deconstructing the VERY SHOW IT IS BASED ON!!!!!!

That's an incredible achievement.


as dumb as Michael may be, he was never as delusional as Brent, who is also a complete jerk off (that is already known).





why is that subtle is somehow funnier than direct?

i actually just wrote an entire paper on the differences between the British and American Office, as well as the French, Canadian, and German versions. Sure, people will find preferences for one over the other, but it has been seen that people will prefer many things that are foreign to home grown; these shows and people's reaction to the shows are no different. It really is some form of having or adding highbrow culture to one's life.

Go watch people get hit in the balls. I'll watch Arrested Development. Guess which ones more subtle.

It's humor. Completely subjective. You can find whatever you want funny, I'm not saying what you like sucks. I'm saying the subtlety of the UK version is what makes it better than the US version because its my sense of humor.

To say Brent is dumber than Michael is not subjective however.

[TooLowBrow]

So the argument to you became praising a show while deconstructing the VERY SHOW IT IS BASED ON!!!!!!

That's an incredible achievement.
i prefer unhappily ever after over married with children

[WampusCrandle]

Go watch people get hit in the balls. I'll watch Arrested Development. Guess which ones more subtle.

It's humor. Completely subjective. You can find whatever you want funny, I'm not saying what you like sucks. I'm saying the subtlety of the UK version is what makes it better than the US version because its my sense of humor.

i'm saying, that for many, it's a highbrow/ lowbrow fight, and i think you have displayed this by providing British=subtle=more funny as opposed to American (middle America)=direct=less funny. with subtleness of the British Office, people feel more intellectual, as would someone that understands Italian opera. with the comedy being direct, you immediately went to saying it's a dumb downed version so middle America can understand it. it definitely shows a biased based somewhat on a foreign feeling of intellectualism.

[TheMojoPin]

So the argument to you became praising a show while deconstructing the VERY SHOW IT IS BASED ON!!!!!!

That's an incredible achievement.

Uh, yeah...so what? They're sitcoms. They're not untouchable sacred cows. I love both, but I recognize what they are.

Go watch people get hit in the balls. I'll watch Arrested Development. Guess which ones more subtle.

Yeah, because the US version of the show is totally reliant on lowbrow humor like shots to the balls. Calm down, Snooty McMonocle.

It's humor. Completely subjective. You can find whatever you want funny, I'm not saying what you like sucks. I'm saying the subtlety of the UK version is what makes it better than the US version because its my sense of humor.

Who said either show sucks? I think it's silly to talk like the US version is nver able to be subtle. It pulls that off all the time every episode. It can also go broad, which it does very well. "Broad" doesn't mean leaping from subtle to people getting kicked in the balls. Both broad and subtle humor can both be very smart. I prefer the US version and shows like AD over the the UK version because those shows can do both while the latter either couldn't or wouldn't. We each have our thing, but good God, man. Broad humor isn't the end of the world.

To say Brent is dumber than Michael is not subjective however.

You're right, because one has actually demonstrated at least a shred of competancy and not being a completely awful human being every single second.

[hammersavage]

i'm saying, that for many, it's a highbrow/ lowbrow fight, and i think you have displayed this by providing British=subtle=more funny as opposed to American (middle America)=direct=less funny. with subtleness of the British Office, people feel more intellectual, as would someone that understands Italian opera. with the comedy being direct, you immediately went to saying it's a dumb downed version so middle America can understand it. it definitely shows a biased based somewhat on a foreign feeling of intellectualism.

I could give a shit what country its from. Arrested Development is my favorite comedy of all time. That was subtle. Way more subtle than the US Office. If they dumbed that show down, it would have been more immediately successful. I don't care what people think is funny or funnier but to not see the obvious differences in the way the shows are written is stupid.

[TheMojoPin]

I could give a shit what country its from. Arrested Development is my favorite comedy of all time. That was subtle. Way more subtle than the US Office. If they dumbed that show down, it would have been more immediately successful. I don't care what people think is funny or funnier but to not see the obvious differences in the way the shows are written is stupid.

Who is saying they're not different?

I also don't see how you can think AD was only subtle humor.

[paulisded]

You'd swear from this discussion that the quality of humor on the American Office is close to the level of Full House. That's clearly not the case. The American version of The Office is one of the most subtle comedies currently being aired. While I do believe that parts of this season has been less successful than previous years, this is still one of TV's smartest shows. Is it as good as the British version? Nope, but I'd bet if that one had aired 22 or so episodes a year for four (or is it five) years they'd have a similar drop in quality.

[hammersavage]

Uh, yeah...so what? They're sitcoms. They're not untouchable sacred cows. I love both, but I recognize what they are.

I'm not saying they are. You somehow defended the US version by deconstructing the UK version. It directly 'covered' the first 6 episodes, went out on its own, sucked after 3 season and refound its footing this season. What an amazing achievement.

Yeah, because the US version of the show is totally reliant on lowbrow humor like shots to the balls. Calm down, Snooty McMonocle.

A CHICK GOT HIT IN THE FACE WITH A SOCCER BALL LAST WEEK!!!

Who said either show sucks? I think it's silly to talk like the US version is nver able to be subtle. It pulls that off all the time every episode. It can also go broad, which it does very well. "Broad" doesn't mean leaping from subtle to people getting kicked in the balls. Both broad and subtle humor can both be very smart. I prefer the US version and shows like AD over the the UK version because those shows can do both while the latter either couldn't or wouldn't. We each have our thing, but good God, man. Broad humor isn't the end of the world.

I agree. I don't care who like what. I know better than most how subjective humor can be. I'm just saying what is what. I never bashed broad humor in general although you make it sound like I do to fit your argument. I bashed broad humor in this case by saying the UK version is more subtle and much better written and performed. You can ignore this and make another invalid point. I await it.

You're right, because one has actually demonstrated at least a shred of competancy and not being a completely awful human being every single second.

Awful human being? Michael has done was worse things as a human then David ever did. Rewatch the shows. Last season I almost stopped watching because he just became outright mean. No cleverness to it at all. They toned it down a bit this season.

The competancy thing was never an argument for me. Who is stupider was.

[hammersavage]

You'd swear from this discussion that the quality of humor on the American Office is close to the level of Full House. That's clearly not the case. The American version of The Office is one of the most subtle comedies currently being aired. While I do believe that parts of this season has been less successful than previous years, this is still one of TV's smartest shows. Is it as good as the British version? Nope, but I'd bet if that one had aired 22 or so episodes a year for four (or is it five) years they'd have a similar drop in quality.

Never bashed the US version. I like it. I did say they watered it down for American audiences by being less subtle.

[hammersavage]

Who is saying they're not different?

I also don't see how you can think AD was only subtle humor.

And the differences is the subtlety in which the humor is presented. They took Gareth and made him bigger. They took Brent and made him dumber and more over the top. They set things on fire and play soccer in the parking lot and crash cars. I don't care what you like but they are different. I prefer one to the other but still like this version. But they watered down the humor.

And I never said AD was only subtle humor. You even quote me. Stop making an argument and working backwards. I think it was mostly subtle but had some gags that would work on an infant.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm not saying they are. You somehow defended the US version by deconstructing the UK version. It directly 'covered' the first 6 episodes, went out on its own, sucked after 3 season and refound its footing this season. What an amazing achievement.

Where did I say it was some amazing achievment? I've expressly said I think that neither show is as amazing as they're hyped to be.

A CHICK GOT HIT IN THE FACE WITH A SOCCER BALL LAST WEEK!!!

And? I would agree if it happened out of nowhere for no reason other than laughing at someone in pain, but it hinged on everything built around it and showing Jim fucking up trying to kiss up to the new boss as disastrously as possible despite his best efforts.

Trying to single it out like that is like if I said Brent dancing in the UK version was jus a stupid "look at the dorky white guy" joke.

I agree. I don't care who like what. I know better than most how subjective humor can be. I'm just saying what is what. I never bashed broad humor in general although you make it sound like I do to fit your argument. I bashed broad humor in this case by saying the UK version is more subtle and much better written and performed. You can ignore this and make another invalid point. I await it.

How am I ignoring anything? Again, what I said is that the UK version was great at doing the subtle humor thing...but that's all it did. Personally, I prefer shows like the US version and AD that can do broad and subtle.

Awful human being? Michael has done was worse things as a human then David ever did. Rewatch the shows. Last season I almost stopped watching because he just became outright mean. No cleverness to it at all. They toned it down a bit this season.

The competancy thing was never an argument for me. Who is stupider was.

My whole "beef" with Brent stems out of his incompetence. There's never a single second in the UK version where's shown that he could possibly function in any kind of professional position. It's one of those things that "takes me out of a show" a bit because if I think about it there's simply no way he would have achieved the managerial positon he had. It in no way ruins the show, but when I compare the characters I can't help but see that despite all of his flaws, Michael has at least been demonstrated to be able to succeed to a certain point in certain roles. Brent is nothing but total failure with everything he does.

[hammersavage]

I'm gonna stop debating a sitcom. My fingers hurt. I love you.

[WampusCrandle]

My fingers hurt. I love you.

the best loving makes your fingers hurt .... :wub:

[TheMojoPin]

And the differences is the subtlety in which the humor is presented. They took Gareth and made him bigger. They took Brent and made him dumber and more over the top. They set things on fire and play soccer in the parking lot and crash cars. I don't care what you like but they are different. I prefer one to the other but still like this version. But they watered down the humor.

Nobody is saying they're not different.

Broad gags are not necessarily "watering something down" if they're done well. The presence of the things you listed isn't automatically an indicator that something is lesser than something else. I mean, what really needed to be watered down about the UK version in the first place? I think one of its strengths is how appealing it is to so many people because of how universal so much of it is. I've never showed it to someone and not have them love something about it.

And I never said AD was only subtle humor. You even quote me. Stop making an argument and working backwards. I think it was mostly subtle but had some gags that would work on an infant.

say you have no problem with broad humor, but then you describe AD like anything that wasn't subtle was just fodder for morons.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm gonna stop debating a sitcom. My fingers hurt. I love you.

But I thought it wasn't just a sitcom.



























































I love you, too.

[hammersavage]

I thought I said I love you.

[TheMojoPin]

I thought I said I love you.

I saw it too late.

[hammersavage]

I saw it too late.

You always do you cruel son of a bitch.

[TheMojoPin]

Let's never fight again.

[WampusCrandle]

Let's never fight again.

hugs forever

[TheMojoPin]

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[hammersavage]

That's what I wanted to post.


Here's some humor you low brow low life's would like:
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I DON'T GET IT! :unsure:

[WampusCrandle]

That's what I wanted to post.


Here's some humor you low brow low life's would like:
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I DON'T GET IT! :unsure:

:lol: adorable

[Doctor Manhattan]

I also don't see how you can think AD was only subtle humor.

That is what I loved about that show, it had subtle humor, call backs, call forwards, site gags, word play ("The Seaward"), etc! The writers were smart but not comedy snobs so they were not above using puns or prat falls, they had layers of humor for everyone.

[hammersavage]

New episode tonight at 9pm. Here's a synopsis:

Michael has to mediate a dispute within his new sales team. Meanwhile, trouble brews in the office when several employees take the term "casual" Fridays too loosely.

If there is hilarity, it shall ensue.

[Aggie]

I've loved the Michael Scott Paper Company episodes. Especially when they did that special opening for the theme song. Also the throwing cheese puffs in each other's mouths cracked me up for some reason.

Looking forward to tonight!

[SatCam]

I've loved the Michael Scott Paper Company episodes. Especially when they did that special opening for the theme song. Also the throwing cheese puffs in each other's mouths cracked me up for some reason.

Looking forward to tonight!

the cheese puffs were probably the best gag yet

[TheMojoPin]

I miss the sexy of Stringer.

[WampusCrandle]

I miss the sexy of Stringer.

i liked his character until he started to kiss the ass of the big wigs - that kind of thing makes me fucking sick!


on another topic, i want to say thank you to this thread because i wrote a paper on The Office and the differences between the American version and the British version, as well as other international versions. got a nice B+.

[hammersavage]

i liked his character until he started to kiss the ass of the big wigs - that kind of thing makes me fucking sick!


on another topic, i want to say thank you to this thread because i wrote a paper on The Office and the differences between the American version and the British version, as well as other international versions. got a nice B+.

Did you use the hit in the nuts? Woulda bumped you to an A-

[WampusCrandle]

holy shit - poor Kevin

[WampusCrandle]

Did you use the hit in the nuts? Woulda bumped you to an A-

i did, actually. part of my paper was the discussion between you and mojo.

[WampusCrandle]

oolala Meredith! i love her, and she is rarely in it.

[hammersavage]

i did, actually. part of my paper was the discussion between you and mojo.

Hopefully he came off as a douche and I looked sane. If not, your paper was shit.


Meredith looked alright.

[WampusCrandle]

Hopefully he came off as a douche and I looked sane. If not, your paper was shit.


Meredith looked alright.

i dont think you would like my shit paper then - haha.

[hammersavage]

Ha

[WampusCrandle]

new Pam is hot

[TheMojoPin]

Great episode. One of the best ensemble casts ever. There's not a weak person in it.

Toby's "origin story" and Jim playing chess with Creed ruled.

[hammersavage]

new Pam is hot

You're right on the money. Very cute.

Great episode. One of the best ensemble casts ever. There's not a weak person in it.

Toby's "origin story" and Jim playing chess with Creed ruled.

Only two parts I laughed at. Didn't really like the episode. They should have ended the season with last weeks episode storyline wise.

And the 'jokes' that Michael played at the end of the episode were dumber than anything David Brent ever did. I chuckled, sure.

[TheMojoPin]

And the 'jokes' that Michael played at the end of the episode were dumber than anything David Brent ever did.

False.

And if you didn't laugh at the paper fort, you're a jerk.

[hammersavage]

Eh. Mildly amusing.

http://blogs.princeton.edu/paw/Ellie1.jpg

Adorable!

[Slumbag]

I haven't watched this show in a while, but I did see a commercial for it the other day.


Is there a reason Ryan has blond hair?

[WampusCrandle]

Eh. Mildly amusing.

http://blogs.princeton.edu/paw/Ellie1.jpg

Adorable!

there is something wrong with her eyes

[TheMojoPin]

Is there a reason Ryan has blond hair?

He's a douchebag, so he hammersavaged his hair.

[hammersavage]

there is something wrong with her eyes

They aren't full of tears that I just caused.

[Slumbag]

He's a douchebag, so he hammersavaged his hair.

I figured there would be some wacky reason.

[TheMojoPin]

I figured there would be some wacky reason.

He wanted to be "ball-kickin' blonde."

[hammersavage]

I figured there would be some wacky reason.

Like some wacky bet that Michael set up but corporate doesn't mind? I know...

[Doctor Manhattan]

Meredith looked alright.
I found her oddly hot
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3470/casualday.jpg

[TonyStark]

This episode was fucking great...rewatching it again on Hulu right now

[jessicaduh]

i actually watched a few minutes of it. i laughed when Michael imitated Pam's voice. Jenna Fischer really does have an atrocious voice.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

great comeback season, its was floundering

[hammersavage]

i actually watched a few minutes of it. i laughed when Michael imitated Pam's voice. Jenna Fischer really does have an atrocious voice.

But out of this world breasts

[TheMojoPin]

But out of this world breasts

That's not very subtle.

[hammersavage]

I know my audience.

[TheMojoPin]

Did you wail and gnash your teeth when Dwight used urine for the invisible ink?

Did his pony sandwich make you hurl your television set out the window?

[grlNIN]

I found her oddly hot
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3470/casualday.jpg

That and Kelly's JLo outfit were so funny.

I am generally starting to dislike Dwight, i don't like the Dwight vs Michael stuff, it blows in comparison to Dwight vs Jim.

Paper Fort made me lol, he said it so seriously, i love the deadpan.

[TheMojoPin]

Darryl is probaly my favorite secondary character on the show for that reason. He's so perfectly deadpan.

[WampusCrandle]

I found her oddly hot
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3470/casualday.jpg

that picture truly captures the desperation of the over the hill woman.

Darryl is probaly my favorite secondary character on the show for that reason. He's so perfectly deadpan.

i'm glad to see him back. i was worried he was going to be fired for having all those drug problems.

[SatCam]

I am generally starting to dislike Dwight, i don't like the Dwight vs Michael stuff, it blows in comparison to Dwight vs Jim.

Too true. I liked it better when Dwight was just lost in his own little world. Now he is basically trying to get rid of Michael and get his job. It was a relief when Charles told Dwight to stfu last episode.

[WampusCrandle]

last night was a great episode. lots of dancing, back rubbing and a dance off?!?! yes, a dance off!

[TonyStark]

that picture truly captures the desperation of the over the hill woman.



i'm glad to see him back. i was worried he was going to be fired for having all those drug problems.

Agreed, very pumped that Darryl is still here, he's an awesome straight man to Michael.

[drjoek]

Eh. Mildly amusing.

http://blogs.princeton.edu/paw/Ellie1.jpg

Adorable!

Dont know if this has been posted but the new secretary Erin has a youtube sensation video called the worst blowjob! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZItsbLzc73s)
I would say SFW but you may want to check it out no nudity but with an attempt at dirty talk
Damn Funny Stuff
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