View Full Version : I think I am getting fired tomorrow
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:23 PM
Actually I am pretty sure I am getting fired tomorrow. I just received and email from my boss asking me to come in at 7:00 am to discuss some things with HR.
I'll give it to you short: I told my boss today that I decided to have knee surgery to repair my acl/mcl that I fucked up playing hockey. He told me, that we had to catch up for a slow last month and I had said that I could be counted on. I appologized and said that this had to happen. I put it off for far too long. He wasn't happy and began to berate me. Basically telling me that I was worthless and all but said that this was hurt any future movement. I told him to fuck off and said I was leaving early. As I was grabbing the door knob he said to me that if I kept this up I would be on thin ice. I assumed the minute that I said the following I was done (either fired or assumed I quit). I told him to suck mi dick. Now I usually don't lose my temper, but for some reason, I just didn't care.
I guessI am just throwing this out there because I am pissed that it came to this over surgery, but I will not allow some fuck to dress me down over that.
ChrisTheCop
10-03-2007, 06:27 PM
Too bad HE didnt say he WANTED to suck your dick.
Thats worth $11 Million Dollars these days.
Sorry for your probs, but he may also just want to mediate with a neutral party in the room. Put a good face on, apologize if needed, but more importantly, get your surgery done. Your health is more important than anything.
Good luck budday.
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:28 PM
I think you would have been ok if you didn't yell and leave, but now you kinda gave them an out to fire you anyway. But I don't think they can fire you cause of the injury thing, especially if you have been there awhile.
I'm not sure cause I'm not a lawyer and I don't look shit up, but that's what I think
BoondockSaint
10-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Can they fuck with your insurance over this?
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:32 PM
I just wish you told me to suck your dick.......Could this be because of the porn I sent you.
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Can they fuck with your insurance over this?
Not sure, if they fire me I think there is thing called Cobra that I can get. But I am also pursuing the league's insurance
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:34 PM
You will have the surgery paid by the league if you paid for insurance in the league signups. So that's ok. You will have the option to get COBRA for up to 18 months. What it is is basically you pay them and they pay your company to stay on the same insurance you were. But its expensive, 400/month for 1 person and like 800 for a family plan
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:36 PM
You will have the surgery paid by the league if you paid for insurance in the league signups. So that's ok. You will have the option to get COBRA for up to 18 months. What it is is basically you pay them and they pay your company to stay on the same insurance you were. But its expensive, 400/month for 1 person and like 800 for a family plan
I do pay the league so I figured they would. Jesus thats an insane rate
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:36 PM
I just wish you told me to suck your dick.......Could this be because of the porn I sent you.
And yes I do blame those hot pics you sent me
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:37 PM
yea cause basically you pay what you did plus what your company was paying since they arent anymore, and im sure you give a small part of it to COBRA for them basically doing nothing
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:38 PM
Also, Boss, you should qualify for short term disability so that you get at least something every month while you cant work
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:39 PM
Also, Boss, you should qualify for short term disability so that you get at least something every month while you cant work
Nice, thank you Snoogs, this info is gonna help
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:40 PM
Hey Boss.................
........YOUR FIRED
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:41 PM
yea you get the paperwork from HR. Fill it out send it back, they put in all your financial info and send it to the place. I think they have to so dont let them say no. You pay into disability in all that nonsense they take out of your check so
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:41 PM
Hey Boss.................
........YOUR FIRED
HAHA, you prick
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
yea you get the paperwork from HR. Fill it out send it back, they put in all your financial info and send it to the place. I think they have to so dont let them say no. You pay into disability in all that nonsense they take out of your check so
And I did notify HR about my surgery before the fight, so I am hoping they processed it
reillyluck
10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
If you have to be out medically, they legally cant fire you. you would go on temporary disability. That would cover you.
as far as telling the guy to fuck off and suck your dick...well...not so good my friend. :sad:
I completely understand the frustration over this. especially during your mental preperation for surgery. Im sure your not taking it lightly.
Hopefully you just get written up. I would walk in to the office tomorrow with a somber attitude. whats done is done. dont get defensive. Just take it in and just express the fact that you were pretty much belittled by your manager and you took matters the wrong way. Just DONT blow up!!!
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:44 PM
or walk in with it hangin outta your zipper and take the chance that he liked your idea
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:44 PM
If you have to be out medically, they legally cant fire you. you would go on temporary disability. That would cover you.
as far as telling the guy to fuck off and suck your dick...well...not so good my friend. :sad:
I completely understand the frustration over this. especially during your mental preperation for surgery. Im sure your not taking it lightly.
Hopefully you just get written up. I would walk in to the office tomorrow with a somber attitude. whats done is done. dont get defensive. Just take it in and just express the fact that you were pretty much belittled by your manager and you took matters the wrong way. Just blow up!!!
I agree....:drunk:
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:45 PM
or walk in with it hangin outta your zipper and take the chance that he liked your idea
Your best post ever.LOLOLOLOLOLOLO:clap:
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:46 PM
or walk in with it hangin outta your zipper and take the chance that he liked your idea
:lol: man I was hoping someone would say that was ok
reillyluck
10-03-2007, 06:47 PM
dont want to be a debbie downer, but lets remember this is in the "thats life" forum. serious posts only...unless boss wants me to move it to the confessional.
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:47 PM
If you have to be out medically, they legally cant fire you. you would go on temporary disability. That would cover you.
as far as telling the guy to fuck off and suck your dick...well...not so good my friend. :sad:
I completely understand the frustration over this. especially during your mental preperation for surgery. Im sure your not taking it lightly.
Hopefully you just get written up. I would walk in to the office tomorrow with a somber attitude. whats done is done. dont get defensive. Just take it in and just express the fact that you were pretty much belittled by your manager and you took matters the wrong way. Just DONT blow up!!!
I have this problem with my "Irish" temper. I never get pissed, but when I do...... I don't think so well
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
dont want to be a debbie downer, but lets remember this is in the "thats life" forum. serious posts only...unless boss wants me to move it to the confessional.
Well Boss posted it. Nothing he says is serious.
reillyluck
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Well Boss posted it. Nothing he says is serious.
read my post again.
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:49 PM
dont want to be a debbie downer, but lets remember this is in the "thats life" forum. serious posts only...unless boss wants me to move it to the confessional.
No leave it here, but Snoogans and Clints wern't being bad. If you need to move go ahead.
J.Clints
10-03-2007, 06:49 PM
No leave it here, but Snoogans and Clints wern't being bad. If you need to move go ahead.
Sorry Debbie Downer I will be good now.:laugh:
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 06:50 PM
Mine was serious....that's just how I roll
sorry, i had to, but I won't do it again. I promise
Reephdweller
10-03-2007, 06:55 PM
If you really don't want to get fired. If I were you, I would ask to speak to him prior what he wanted to discuss. Let him know that you have regret over what you said before he left. Own up to it and blame it on a case of nerves or something and heartily apologize from the bottom of your heart. I think he may just have a change of attitude depending on how you deliver it.
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:56 PM
I assume the email I just got from HR asking if I had any vacation time left isnt good
Tenbatsuzen
10-03-2007, 06:57 PM
1) Be apologetic.
2) Say that the stress related to the surgery (use an excuse that you don't like being put under and you're paranoid they'll operated on the wrong leg) boiled over when your boss put pressure on you.
3) Say that the surgery was needed to be a better employee in the future.
4) Be apologetic.
5) Swallow your pride and be apologetic.
6) If they fire you, you can collect unemployment. Don't pull this "fuck you, I quit", shit. If they are going to fire you, just smile and nod and take it like a man and don't burn any bridges on the way out.
Tenbatsuzen
10-03-2007, 06:58 PM
I assume the email I just got from HR asking if I had any vacation time left isnt good
They might be trying to angle for a solution for you to take vacation time for "elective surgery".
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 06:59 PM
They might be trying to angle for a solution for you to take vacation time for "elective surgery".
I like that. I am trying to be optimistic
CruelCircus
10-03-2007, 07:05 PM
...and im sure you give a small part of it to COBRA for them basically doing nothing
COBRA isn't a company or organization, it's an acronym.
"Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act"
COBRA FAQ from US Dept. of Labor (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_cobra.html)
Also, in regards to disability, you can't just go out on it. You have to have already signed up for a disability plan. It's a form of insurance, just like your health insurance.
Tenbatsuzen
10-03-2007, 07:09 PM
COBRA isn't a company or organization,.
A few people may disagree with that.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w267/zswall226/Cobra_commander.jpg
Snoogans
10-03-2007, 07:10 PM
at my last job someone got hurt and they sent him forms to apply. as long as you pay into that shit every week you will get something
Friday
10-03-2007, 07:20 PM
I have this problem with my "Irish" temper. I never get pissed, but when I do...... I don't think so well
No..... YOU??? No way..... :wink:
oh dear, my dear. I am sorry this happened.
You know where to find me if you need to vent. :sad:
Good Luck Tomorrow......
Bossanova
10-03-2007, 07:27 PM
Thanks. I guess I should sleep off my high and eliminate my whiskey breath before I go in
Friday
10-03-2007, 07:37 PM
Thanks. I guess I should sleep off my high and eliminate my whiskey breath before I go in
poor schmoopie.
get some rest. face the music. post it here. have a smoke and a drink.
rinse, repeat.
hang in there!!
waltermitty
10-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Just walk in there and start beating the shit out of yourself.....
From what I can tell, the rest will take care of itself.......
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/files/2006/07/Fight%20Club%20-%20Punching%20Yourself.gif
Kevin
10-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Five simpile words will get you out of this...
I am a Mets Fan...
Then you will hear..
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Carry on sir..
Leticia
10-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Good luck Boss!!
I hope everything turns out for the best no matter what happens.
spoon
10-04-2007, 12:42 AM
Actually I am pretty sure I am getting fired tomorrow. I just received and email from my boss asking me to come in at 7:00 am to discuss some things with HR.
I'll give it to you short: I told my boss today that I decided to have knee surgery to repair my acl/mcl that I fucked up playing hockey. He told me, that we had to catch up for a slow last month and I had said that I could be counted on. I appologized and said that this had to happen. I put it off for far too long. He wasn't happy and began to berate me. Basically telling me that I was worthless and all but said that this was hurt any future movement. I told him to fuck off and said I was leaving early. As I was grabbing the door knob he said to me that if I kept this up I would be on thin ice. I assumed the minute that I said the following I was done (either fired or assumed I quit). I told him to suck mi dick. Now I usually don't lose my temper, but for some reason, I just didn't care.
I guessI am just throwing this out there because I am pissed that it came to this over surgery, but I will not allow some fuck to dress me down over that.
Hopefully you get this before you go to work bc I have some friends who have gone through this shit. First off, as tenbats stated, DO NOT QUIT. Second, do not admit to mistakes, admit that your sorry this had to occur do to a boss telling you you can't have a needed surgery. Truthfully, you should say you want to talk to HR yourself first and tell your side of things stressing that he started everything off in the direction of being unprofessional, and insulted you. Telling you not to have surgery even though u informed hr. Don't link it to hockey, they don't need to know why you need it. Even if you did hurt it there and told them already, now link it to an old injury that happened and you feel it in hockey. If you open a case with HR, it's very tough for them to get rid of you fast and it puts the light on your boss as well. If others are unhappy with him, it'll come out. For you to walk in and admit to everything, your done. Sure you did it, but did he not start it all. He's the boss/manager and is more responsible for keeping things civil. I'm not saying what you did was right, but you need to go in there and be confident and put some blame on this guy. I positive by what you posted this guy didn't give two shits about you and isn't about to change his tune after this. If only you two were a part of this whole situation, you need to get to HR before him and if not, ask to speak with them alone first in the meeting. Say things like he always was very unprofessional with you and seems to cause most of the issues with employees. Truth be told, be very civil with him and HR as others stated, but make the waters very murky and be calm as hell as you recount stories. It's very tough to fire employees that go to HR with issues tied to their boss. Especially if they have to ask him if he said having surgery would hurt your career and position with him. Act as though you are in severe pain on a daily, no minute to minute basis. So much that the pain meds are adding up and your body can't even take it.
Good luck you crazy tempered bastard.
Good luck today brother. As others have said, be apologetic yet insistent that this surgery is required.
And please let us know how it all goes down.
TheGameHHH
10-04-2007, 02:29 AM
i must echo gvac's setiments...............good luck
sailor
10-04-2007, 02:46 AM
you can also play up his mistreatment of you. say he outright said you'd be fired if you got surgery. i pretty much think that would tie their hands as far as firing you.
commish13
10-04-2007, 03:26 AM
Five simpile words will get you out of this...
I am a Mets Fan...
Then you will hear..
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Carry on sir..
That's the one I'd go with. Bravo.
Kris10
10-04-2007, 06:12 AM
I'm dying to know what happened. And how does HR not know how much vacation time you have left??? lol
Dougie Brootal
10-04-2007, 06:36 AM
I'm dying to know what happened.
me too:unsure:
foodcourtdruide
10-04-2007, 07:02 AM
me too:unsure:
I am too! I'm so annoyed that they said they'd fire you if you got surgery. Like whatever the fuck they're working on is more important than your health.
sailor
10-04-2007, 07:14 AM
I'm dying to know what happened. And how does HR not know how much vacation time you have left??? lol
good point! he should tell them he has two months accrued.
Bossanova
10-04-2007, 03:17 PM
Hey everyone. Sorry I could not post earlier for I was getting some shit taken care of before surgery tomorrow. I took Spoons advice (also smoked so I would be calm) and went to HR before the meeting. I explained what had happened leading up to this shit and also some other things my prick boss has done. The meeting was tense and they said that my actions were not going to go unnoticed. I appologized for cursing but did not say I was wrong. Back and forth we went (in a civilized manner) and basically I am stilled employed. I am going to be suspended without pay for two day starting today, which I will be under the knife tomorrow anyway. They said that it would have been more days and they were also planning on making me use my vacation days while I was out as well. I say it WOULD have been more but before me or my boss went in this morning a co-worker snuck into HR and explained what he had seen, and how my boss had also treated many others in the same manner. So instead of me getting into some shit, my boss will be under review and is suspended without pay for 1 week. Worst part is, I can't even celebrate this shit because I cant eat or drink before surgery. Thanks you for your support everyone
sailor
10-04-2007, 03:22 PM
so your boss got it worse than you? all in all that's great, especially considering what you were worried of. best of luck with the surgery!
Dougie Brootal
10-04-2007, 03:40 PM
Hey everyone. Sorry I could not post earlier for I was getting some shit taken care of before surgery tomorrow. I took Spoons advice (also smoked so I would be calm) and went to HR before the meeting. I explained what had happened leading up to this shit and also some other things my prick boss has done. The meeting was tense and they said that my actions were not going to go unnoticed. I appologized for cursing but did not say I was wrong. Back and forth we went (in a civilized manner) and basically I am stilled employed. I am going to be suspended without pay for two day starting today, which I will be under the knife tomorrow anyway. They said that it would have been more days and they were also planning on making me use my vacation days while I was out as well. I say it WOULD have been more but before me or my boss went in this morning a co-worker snuck into HR and explained what he had seen, and how my boss had also treated many others in the same manner. So instead of me getting into some shit, my boss will be under review and is suspended without pay for 1 week. Worst part is, I can't even celebrate this shit because I cant eat or drink before surgery. Thanks you for your support everyone
well hoo-fuckin-ray for that happy ending! congrats budday, ill drink one for you tonight! and you should say thanks to that co worker, that was cool of them to stick up for you against your douchey boss!:thumbup:
Bossanova
10-04-2007, 03:41 PM
well hoo-fuckin-ray for that happy ending! congrats budday, ill drink one for you tonight! and you should say thanks to that co worker, that was cool of them to stick up for you against your douchey boss!:thumbup:
Oh, I am taking him out when I am healed
spoon
10-04-2007, 03:50 PM
Great news but lay low for a while and let your co-workers take him down if he's as bad as he seems. Perhaps he's the main reason your team has "catching up" to do anyway. You find out who your friends are in a company fast when shit goes down.
Good luck with the surgery and get back on the ice soon.
walking joint
10-04-2007, 04:20 PM
its great that you kept your job, but where the hell do you work. its bad enough you told your boss to fuck off, but you then went on to tell him to suck your dick. i can't imagine anyone saying that at any place i've worked without being fired on the spot. its crazy. someone said to lay low for a while...i guess that means don't go punching him in the face anytime in the next week or you may be suspended another day or two. congrats...i guess.
JPMNICK
10-04-2007, 04:42 PM
that's great news! and good luck in surgery tomorrow
Friday
10-04-2007, 04:44 PM
I am really glad this worked out the way it did. Probably the best case, considering.... :)
Glad someone witnessed this and was man enough to go to bat in your defense too.... that is not something seen every day!
Also happy you will be having that surgery... it will suck for a long time but in the end your body will thank you. And having the insurance will make your life a lot less stressful.
Hang in there.... and when you start to feel better.... then hit the pavement with that resume, darlin! ;)
sailor
10-04-2007, 04:46 PM
its great that you kept your job, but where the hell do you work. its bad enough you told your boss to fuck off, but you then went on to tell him to suck your dick. i can't imagine anyone saying that at any place i've worked without being fired on the spot. its crazy. someone said to lay low for a while...i guess that means don't go punching him in the face anytime in the next week or you may be suspended another day or two. congrats...i guess.
i took it as implied by his boss that he could be fired for having surgery, which i'm pretty sure is illegal and grounds to sue. there's almost no way they'd let him go after that, unless his boss' name was dolan.
I'm glad to hear you're still employed honey.
Now you can buy me dinner sometime.
Bossanova
10-04-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm glad to hear you're still employed honey.
Now you can buy me dinner sometime.
OOOOOOOHH, what pleasure that would be
spoon
10-04-2007, 06:15 PM
I'm glad to hear you're still employed honey.
Now you can buy me dinner sometime.
OOOOOOOHH, what pleasure that would be
Here's what that's gonna look like....
http://jibbering.com/imgs/man.2.jpg
Leticia
10-04-2007, 06:19 PM
Yaaaaaaay.
I'm so glad that your boss got into worse shit than you!
:)
Doogie
10-04-2007, 10:01 PM
Great news but lay low for a while and let your co-workers take him down if he's as bad as he seems. Perhaps he's the main reason your team has "catching up" to do anyway. You find out who your friends are in a company fast when shit goes down.
Good luck with the surgery and get back on the ice soon.
Fuck that. Guy I know, $50 plus a bag of angel dust and all his fingernails are pulled out
spoon
10-04-2007, 10:04 PM
Doogie does have all the answers, so I rescind my advice!
Now go get 50 bucks!
waltermitty
10-04-2007, 10:21 PM
Here's To Maintaining the Status Quo!!!!!
Just Enough not to get fired... Not quite enough to draw attention....
Thats my motto....
You told your boss to suck your dick, you get to keep your job AND your boss got worse punishment than you? Go buy a lottery ticket right now -- you're on a roll.
Glad things worked out.
Kris10
10-05-2007, 07:18 AM
I'm glad things worked out for you. After surgery I'd be looking to get the fuck out of there. This boss got your # my friend.
JustJon
10-05-2007, 09:32 AM
I think it's great that one of your co-workers backed you up like that
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