Is There An Anti-Hassan Thread?

[lleeder]

No offense to Jeff and Missy but I always hated hearing this guy on when you guys were on the show. It seemed like you gave him a good push and I understand it was probably in an effort to help a friend. Listening to him on the show today was even more unbearable. I enjoyed the segment but hated his position. The greed of winning a contest, failing when given a opportunity and then wanting to win another shot was sickening. I understand why you are no longer this mans friend. To Hassan I offer this final clip.

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[Furtherman]

Would someone care to explain what exactly the argument was about? I was only tuning in and out today.

[led37zep]

You ever listen to high school girls argue? It was ALOT like that.

[Furtherman]

Oh jeese... nevermind then.

[FMJeff]

You ever listen to high school girls argue? It was ALOT like that.

Go fuck yourself.

[angrymissy]

Jeff and Hassan both do standup
Jeff got Hassan a shot on car crash comedy
Hassan won
Jeff was happy for him
Hassan performs at PNC, gets booed, gets big head about it
Jeff says he is going to try out for Philly
Hassan says, I am totally going to try out again, I want to be on stage again
Jeff asks Hassan to give him and others a chance and not try out again
Hassan says no
Fight ensues

ALSO -

Hassan emails Ron, says "I want to come in studio, BTW, I'm not Jeff's "boy" he's like my fez"

Ron says thats kind of fucked up, Missy and Jeff are the ones who always brought you in here and introduced you to us

more fighting ensues

[mikeyboy]

I'm just listening to today's show now. What happened exactly?

[edit: thx]

[Furtherman]

Ahh. Well it's a question of loyality then, and Hassan seems to be lacking.

[JPMNICK]

Jeff and Hassan both do standup
Jeff got Hassan a shot on car crash comedy
Hassan won
Jeff was happy for him
Hassan performs at PNC, gets booed, gets big head about it
Jeff says he is going to try out for Philly
Hassan says, I am totally going to try out again, I want to be on stage again
Jeff asks Hassan to give him and others a chance and not try out again
Hassan says no
Fight ensues

that is kind of a dick move on hassans part ONLY because jeff got him to have a shot. if not, i could see hassan wanting to try again because it is good for his career.

[angrymissy]

It was a one shot deal. I think it's pretty selfish to want to try out again for something like that. Give other people a shot. Of course, there is more backstory to it then that.

[Earlshog]

I'm just listening to today's show now. What happened exactly?

Earl insinuated the virgin Mary was black... Ron had to be restrained.....

[Marc with a c]

"He's my fez" really bugs me. I can't imagine ron took to kindly to it.

[FMJeff]

Would someone care to explain what exactly the argument was about? I was only tuning in and out today.

It's really very simple. I pulled some strings to get him into the O&A Car Crash comedy contest for the opening spot at PNC Bank Arts Arena. By divine providence, he was put in a room full of completely inept and talentless comedians who were all crashed out after bombing three times...except for him. Thus, he won, not because he was the best of the best, but because he was the best of the worst.

The following day, he got on stage at PNC after a night of drinking and no preparation and proceeded to bomb hard, the video of which can be found on FoundryMusic.Com.

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By the way, the woo's and gay yeahh's are me supporting my "friend".

After he won, I decided I would give it a shot. I mean, if he could be that lucky, maybe I could share in the luck as well. Rather than standing aside and saying, "Good luck bro", he proceeded to ask O&A if he could try out AGAIN, knowing full well I wanted to try out, and then refused to step aside when I asked him not to compete against me, having already won the contest.

I don't mind competing against a friend, don't get me wrong, but you don't get to win something this big twice. Let other comedians get a shot. You blew yours.

That was just the tip of the iceberg. He's done way more obnoxious shit in the past that I've swallowed out of friendship. This was just the proverbial straw.

[Earlshog]

oh and Fez became radios first player manager, picking up the the EP titile...

[deliciousV]

It was childish, what it comes down to is that Jeff knew he couldn't compete against Saddam in the O&A traveling Virus comedy competition thing, so he demanded that he (Saddam) lay down and not compete because he had already won once, citing the well known rule that disqualifies former Super Bowl, World Series winners, and Daytona 500 winners from competing the next year after they win. He used their friendship to force Hassan to not enter the competition, Hassan refused, saying that it was an even playing field so why not both compete, the friendship was then ended because he wouldn't let Jeff win. It should be known that Hassan is attempting to make a career in comedy, while Jeff is a hobbyist, but Jeff couldn't see that so he took his ball and went home.

obviously, using the same philosophy that causes YMCA children’s basketball to not keep score, Jeff is right. Loosing would have made him feel bad.
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spelling fixed at AM's request

[angrymissy]

it was childish, what it comes down to is that Jeff knew he couldn't compete against Sadam in the O&A taveling Virus comedy competition thing, so he demanded that he (Sadam) lay down and not compete because he had already won once, citing the well known rule that disqualifies former Super Bowl, World Series winners, and Daytona 500 winners from competing the next year after they win. He used their friendship to force Hassan to not enter the competition, Hassan refused, saying that it was an even playing field so why not both compete, the friendship was then ended because he wouldn't let Jeff win. It should be known that Hassan is attemting to make a carreer in comedy, while Jeff is a hobbiest, but jeff couldn't see that so he took his ball and went home.

obviously, using the same philosophy that causes YMCA childrens basketball to not keep score, Jeff is right. Loosing would have made him feel bad.

I can't even read what you just typed. Jesus christ, spellcheck/grammar plz.

Do you think someone should win something like the O&A Car Crash Comedy thing twice? Would you not enter again if a good friend asked you not to? The point made my Ron was, if Fez asked him for something like that, he would do it, without a second thought, as Fez is his good friend.

[DolaMight]

I didn't see the car crash issue as a huge problem that couldn't be worked out between friends until the email sent to Ron saying "he's my fez". That was hard to defend.

What is easy to defend though is that Hassan is doing the most cutting edge wolf material in the business today.

[Death Metal Moe]

Never trust a sand nigger.

[deliciousV]

when I can't really argue a point, I alway play english teacher too.

[Furtherman]

OK, got it Jeff, and yea, that just shows a lack of loyalty on his part.

As time goes on, you see who has your back and who is there to stand in front of you.

I know if my friends do me a favor (or get me a job, which has happened), then I'm willing to help them out whenever they need. It's a matter of pride too.

He though trying out again would help his career? Then be well and be on your way. He showed his true self and there is no need to have that selfishness in anyone's life.

[angrymissy]

Yeah, and on top of that, he emails Ron saying "I'm not Jeff's boy, he's kind of my Fez".

On top of that, after Jeff says he's going to try out for Philly, Hassan calls up his comedian friend and says "Hey, come to Philly with me, I got us a ride, yeah, I'll have Jeff take us", without even asking Jeff and acting like Jeff is his fucking chauffeur.

On top of THAT, Jeff gets him a spot on the show, he wins, and when he gets to take one person backstage, he goes by himself. But oh, he invites Jeff back in the last 5 minutes of the show.

I could go on and on, but I doubt this is very interesting for many people.

[FMJeff]

it was childish, what it comes down to is that Jeff knew he couldn't compete against Sadam in the O&A taveling Virus comedy competition thing, so he demanded that he (Sadam) lay down and not compete because he had already won once, citing the well known rule that disqualifies former Super Bowl, World Series winners, and Daytona 500 winners from competing the next year after they win. He used their friendship to force Hassan to not enter the competition, Hassan refused, saying that it was an even playing field so why not both compete, the friendship was then ended because he wouldn't let Jeff win. It should be known that Hassan is attemting to make a carreer in comedy, while Jeff is a hobbiest, but jeff couldn't see that so he took his ball and went home.

obviously, using the same philosophy that causes YMCA childrens basketball to not keep score, Jeff is right. Loosing would have made him feel bad.

That's one way of looking at it...if you want to be completely wrong.

That opportunity was for AMATEUR comedians. The SuperBowl, World Series, etc. are for PROFESSIONALS, so right off the bat, your analogy is inaccurate. The purpose of the contest is to give an amateur a shot at comedy glory. To give the same person the same shot means one less comedian has an opportunity to make the best of it. It diminishes the contest, making the whole thing pointless.

You had your shot, you won, move on. That was my point. Also if Hassan was such an aspiring professional, he would've spent more than five minutes arranging his set before he went out drinking the night before one of the biggest gigs in his life.

[lleeder]

I could go on and on, but I doubt this is very interesting for many people.

Most of my threads don't get this interesting. Please go on.

[Badinia]

Hello, I'm a retart!

[deliciousV]

That's one way of looking at it...if you want to be completely wrong.

That opportunity was for AMATEUR comedians. The SuperBowl, World Series, etc. are for PROFESSIONALS, so right off the bat, your analogy is inaccurate. The purpose of the contest is to give an amateur a shot at comedy glory. To give the same person the same shot means one less comedian has an opportunity to make the best of it. It diminishes the contest, making the whole thing pointless.

You had your shot, you won, move on. That was my point. Also if Hassan was such an aspiring professional, he would've spent more than five minutes arranging his set before he went out drinking the night before one of the biggest gigs in his life.


I've never heard O&A call this a competition for amateur's only, what they have said is that its to give an upstart or unknown the opportunity to be seen and heard, and meet and network with established artists. Why should a person seeking to make a career in the comedy business lay down for a hobbyist. Or why would a real friend who is a hobbyist even ask.
For all your badmouthing of Hassans set, and or lack of preparation, you were still afraid that you couldn't beat him.
I don't know any of you, or have any dog in this fight. I don't want to make any enemies either. But in theory you both had an equal shot in a fair competition, but you decided it was your turn to win and bet a friendship on him letting you.

[lleeder]

I'd like to look at Hassan Youtube, does anybody have a link?

Jeff posted the set he did in this thread.

[angrymissy]

I've never heard O&A call this a competition for amateur's only, what they have said is that its to give an upstart or unknown the opportunity to be seen and heard, and meet and network with established artists. Why should a person seeking to make a career in the comedy business lay down for a hobbyist. Or why would a real friend who is a hobbyist even ask.
For all your badmouthing of Hassans set, and or lack of preparation, you were still afraid that you couldn't beat him.
I don't know any of you, or have any dog in this fight. I don't want to make any enemies either. But in theory you both had an equal shot in a fair competition, but you decided it was your turn to win and bet a friendship on him letting you.

They most definitely said multiple times, that it was a competition for amateurs, a "once in a lifetime shot". It's not even that Jeff didn't think he could beat Hassan, in fact, we both knew that O&A most likely would not even let him compete again, its a matter of selfishness and disloyalty in friendship.

[Tall_James]

If what he has done has caused you aggravation and you feel you can't salvage the friendship, drop him as a friend and set him in your sights while you prepare your act.

Victory is the best revenge.

[AlabamaMan]

Never trust a sand nigger.

Wow, are you from Alabama too?

[FMJeff]

I've never heard O&A call this a competition for amateur's only, what they have said is that its to give an upstart or unknown the opportunity to be seen and heard, and meet and network with established artists. Why should a person seeking to make a career in the comedy business lay down for a hobbyist. Or why would a real friend who is a hobbyist even ask.
For all your badmouthing of Hassans set, and or lack of preparation, you were still afraid that you couldn't beat him.
I don't know any of you, or have any dog in this fight. I don't want to make any enemies either. But in theory you both had an equal shot in a fair competition, but you decided it was your turn to win and bet a friendship on him letting you.

You're a real swift one. What do you think an "upstart" or an "unknown" is you moron? An AMATEUR. Otherwise he wouldn't be an upstart or unknown.

Why? Because decent human beings are not motivated by greed. They understand when they win something grand, its by the grace of g-d, or luck, or whatever you believe in, it should be respected. Part of that respect is allowing your peers to share the wealth.

As for being afraid of beating Hassan, if you saw either one of our acts, you'd know both of our acts are equally worthless. I lived with the kid for a little over a year...seen him naked, seen him pass out on the toilet with a bottle of Jameson and a lit cigarette burning into his shirt and chest fat. I'm about as afraid of Hassan's act as I am of getting syphilis from Happy Typing Girl.

[AlabamaMan]

Hey, I thought those guys on the radio today were gay and they broke up? Thats not what happened?

[Badinia]

Jeff posted the set he did in this thread.

Har! I'm an idiot. Love, Me.

[led37zep]

Hey, I thought those guys on the radio today were gay and they broke up? Thats not what happened?

Did you do your lunch report today? I may have missed it.

[mikeyboy]

Let's try not to make this thread personal, please.

[AlabamaMan]

Did you do your lunch report today? I may have missed it.
I did, listening thread. It sucked however, I was not inspired or really that hungry

[AlabamaMan]

Let's try not to make this thread personal, please.

Who me?

[led37zep]

Let's try not to make this thread personal, please.

Sorry mikey, i'll tone down my inquest into AlabamaMans lunch report. Sorry sir.

[AlabamaMan]

I guess they broke up and left

[deliciousV]

You're a real swift one. What do you think an "upstart" or an "unknown" is you moron? An AMATEUR. Otherwise he wouldn't be an upstart or unknown.

Why? Because decent human beings are not motivated by greed. They understand when they win something grand, its by the grace of g-d, or luck, or whatever you believe in, it should be respected. Part of that respect is allowing your peers to share the wealth.

As for being afraid of beating Hassan, if you saw either one of our acts, you'd know both of our acts are equally worthless. I lived with the kid for a little over a year...seen him naked, seen him pass out on the toilet with a bottle of Jameson and a lit cigarette burning into his shirt and chest fat. I'm about as afraid of Hassan's act as I am of getting syphilis from Happy Typing Girl.

Name calling and communism? Well played sir.

[Death Metal Moe]

Wow, are you from Alabama too?

No, my dad's one so I get a pass.

[Bossanova]

I saw his set at PNC, and personally I would have ended the friendship the minute he walked off stage

[Tenbatsuzen]

I lived with the kid for a little over a year...seen him naked, seen him pass out on the toilet with a bottle of Jameson and a lit cigarette burning into his shirt and chest fat.

was...that... visual.... necessary?

[Tenbatsuzen]

A lot of this stuff can be seen as twisted from different perspectives, either people calling Jeff and Missy petty (which I don't believe they are being) or Hassan being egotistical (which I lean more towards) but the "He's my Fez" shit really gets to me. That's not only demeaning to Jeff, but demeaning to Fez as well, because it's a basic insinuation that Fez is nothing more than a sidekick or something when you know he's much more than that, he's part of the glue that holds the show together.

Plus to email RON that shit indicates two things - a complete lack of respect to Ron, Fez, and Jeff, and not really getting the show.

[Death Metal Moe]

A lot of this stuff can be seen as twisted from different perspectives, either people calling Jeff and Missy petty (which I don't believe they are being) or Hassan being egotistical (which I lean more towards) but the "He's my Fez" shit really gets to me. That's not only demeaning to Jeff, but demeaning to Fez as well, because it's a basic insinuation that Fez is nothing more than a sidekick or something when you know he's much more than that, he's part of the glue that holds the show together.

Plus to email RON that shit indicates two things - a complete lack of respect to Ron, Fez, and Jeff, and not really getting the show.

That's exactly what I thought of when I read this thread.

Fuck that guy.

[mikeyboy]

A lot of this stuff can be seen as twisted from different perspectives, either people calling Jeff and Missy petty (which I don't believe they are being) or Hassan being egotistical (which I lean more towards) but the "He's my Fez" shit really gets to me. That's not only demeaning to Jeff, but demeaning to Fez as well, because it's a basic insinuation that Fez is nothing more than a sidekick or something when you know he's much more than that, he's part of the glue that holds the show together.

Plus to email RON that shit indicates two things - a complete lack of respect to Ron, Fez, and Jeff, and not really getting the show.

I'm just listening now, so I may not have the whole story (Missy just got off the phone), but I concur on all points.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm just listening now, so I may not have the whole story (Missy just got off the phone), but I concur on all points.

STOP STEALING THE SHOW!!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

That's exactly what I thought of when I read this thread.

Fuck that guy.

That's my Moe!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm just listening now, so I may not have the whole story (Missy just got off the phone), but I concur on all points.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/972/invasion2196e12vy4.jpg

[CofyCrakCocaine]

That's exactly what I thought of when I read this thread.

Fuck that guy.

Seconded.

[Death Metal Moe]

That's my Moe!

Oh you! You know just how to talk to a guy!

[mikeyboy]

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/972/invasion2196e12vy4.jpg

Okay, that made me laugh.

[drjoek]

That's it Im a Mo!

Fixed it

[Tenbatsuzen]

Okay, that made me laugh.

One friendship dissolves, a new one begins. Who sez RF.net ain't the best site on the internet?

[Keotok]

Okay, that made me laugh.

One friendship dissolves, a new one begins. Who sez RF.net ain't the best site on the internet?


"Old Friends, Old Friends"

[mikeyboy]

Having heard the whole segment, I will say this: Fez killed.

Hassan: we had a difference of opinion on a certain situation.

Fez: 9/11?

[OpieChurch]

This is an argument between 2 people that applied to 2 people, yet bazillions of XM listeners were forced to listen to an hour of nonsense.

[Snoogans]

i havent heard it yet, but based on the thread and how these type of things usually are on the air, this is some of the shit i like the most. Though i dont usually know the people involved, so this is kinda weird

[Friday]

This is an argument between 2 people that applied to 2 people, yet bazillions of XM listeners were forced to listen to an hour of nonsense.

QFT

though after a while i just tuned out and had fun in the WB listening thread. :bye:

[FezPaul]

This is an argument between 2 people that applied to 2 people, yet bazillions of XM listeners were forced to listen to an hour of nonsense.

The core of the argument was a question of loyalty and friendship.

Which are things that affect all of us.

[AlabamaMan]

QFT

though after a while i just tuned out and had fun in the WB listening thread. :bye:

why would you not be a part of rf.net??????

[AlabamaMan]

Fuck yall I wanted to chat and you tricked me on the chat room thing , ha ja you got me back:nono:

[underdog]

Having heard the whole segment, I will say this: Fez killed.

I don't know if its the detox or whatever, but Fez was absolutely on fire today all show.

[MikeB]

If FM Jeff wanted to make his career in comedy then it would be one thing. Hassaan says Jeff said it is just a hobby to him. Hassaan performed at a comedy club with Heat going on outside.
FM Jeff shouldnt make excuses before the contest. Why not worry about being good enough to win.

[BMoses]

Hassan kept saying he didn't think he would win Philly. He was going to get more airtime. He is full of shit, he thought he won once and was going to win again. He is an unfunny asshole.

[FMJeff]

If FM Jeff wanted to make his career in comedy then it would be one thing. Hassaan says Jeff said it is just a hobby to him. Hassaan performed at a comedy club with Heat going on outside.
FM Jeff shouldnt make excuses before the contest. Why not worry about being good enough to win.

You're missing the point. I wasn't worried about winning or losing. My issue was competing against my best friend who had already won. Wouldn't you step aside for your best friend if you won already, let you both have an opportunity to share a wonderful thing like that? Not if you chose career over friendship, and that's the issue here.

BTW, if you missed the show, you can hear it here:

http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/displaymedia.cfm/id/16136/page/show_video_number_16136.html

[LARPer]

As for being afraid of beating Hassan, if you saw either one of our acts, you'd know both of our acts are equally worthless. I lived with the kid for a little over a year...seen him naked, seen him pass out on the toilet with a bottle of Jameson and a lit cigarette burning into his shirt and chest fat. I'm about as afraid of Hassan's act as I am of getting syphilis from Happy Typing Girl.


Why is it that everyone who has ever lived with Hassan has a story that includes the words "drunk," "toilet," and "naked?"

[spoon]

OK I finally know what this thread is about having seen it all day and finally catching the show via replay.

Jeff, this guy has me so pissed right now. He's so smug and dicky and you guys are supposed to be old friends!? I hate fucks like this and you shouldn't help him one fucking bit again. Nice call by Missy sticking up for her man, love it....not to mention Ron calling him out! I'm one of those friends to a fault guy like you seem to be, but this is a clear fuck you from Hassan so fuck him. I can't tell you how mad this type shit makes me, but I really hope he doesn't come out to any more events. Man, what a douche bag self-absorbed myopic prick! :furious: :furious:

[LARPer]

Man, what a douche bag self-absorbed myopic prick! :furious: :furious:


You forgot to add alcoholic, but yeah, that about sums it up.

[spoon]

blah blah....I hope you're happy mikey!

[spoon]

Let's try not to make this thread personal, please.

Ahhhhhhhhhh!

[ChrisTheCop]

QFT

though after a while i just tuned out and had fun in the WB listening thread. :bye:

a listening thread you say? what will those wackbaggers come up with next?
WE should give that a try over here.


and as others, i was most offended by the Fez comparison. I dont really know anyone in the argument; you asked a friend a favor, he didnt give it. it happens. Walk it off.

how did it turn out anyway? did hassan win the 2nd time? did jeff not get in? or is this still ongoing?

[MikeB]

You're missing the point. I wasn't worried about winning or losing. My issue was competing against my best friend who had already won. Wouldn't you step aside for your best friend if you won already, let you both have an opportunity to share a wonderful thing like that? Not if you chose career over friendship, and that's the issue here.

BTW, if you missed the show, you can hear it here:

http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/displaymedia.cfm/id/16136/page/show_video_number_16136.html
I thought at the other stops friends "competed" against each other. I may be wrong but in car crash comedy it wasnt a whole lot of competing. Each set was indepedent of the other and most of the time Ant didnt know who had the least at the end. I have competed against people I consider friends for work related things before. I didnt take it personal because I knew my destiny was in my own hands.
There are many high school teamates that go up against each other for scholarships but they don't expect the other one to tell them they are not interested for whatever reason.

I do think it was wrong for him not to bring you backstage. He clearly was hoping he would become buddies with Vos, Jimmy, and company and didnt want the guy who is only second to Fez in show crying episodes.


I side with FM Jeff but I think the "step aside" was wrong.

[sailor]

A lot of this stuff can be seen as twisted from different perspectives, either people calling Jeff and Missy petty (which I don't believe they are being) or Hassan being egotistical (which I lean more towards) but the "He's my Fez" shit really gets to me. That's not only demeaning to Jeff, but demeaning to Fez as well, because it's a basic insinuation that Fez is nothing more than a sidekick or something when you know he's much more than that, he's part of the glue that holds the show together.

Plus to email RON that shit indicates two things - a complete lack of respect to Ron, Fez, and Jeff, and not really getting the show.

I'm just listening now, so I may not have the whole story (Missy just got off the phone), but I concur on all points.

admin quote?

[RhinoinMN]

Never trust a sand nigger.

Wow, are you from Alabama too?

No, my dad's one so I get a pass.

It is a little saddening that one can't trust his own father.

[Death Metal Moe]

It is a little saddening that one can't trust his own father.

Oh I trust him, he's as American as you or I. He loves it here and has been here for decades making an honest living for his family. The guy works like a dog, he could outwork my day's work in an hour.

I was just using that absurd notion that "Only black comedians can make black jokes" kind of garbage. Since this guy is an Arab comedian, or at the very least Muslim I used the old S.N. word for shock value.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

I could see FM Jeff's perspective until he made the statement:

"There is no contest out there where the winner is allowed to compete again".

Ask Pat from Moonachie about this regarding the Hot Dog Eating Contest. The only contests that I can think of where a winner is not allowed to win is a radio contest. Most open contests (as this is) there is no pre-requisite of not having competed prior.

I see Hassan's point more given the fact that he was not telling Jeff to not compete. It's an open field and if he wanted to compete again to try to spark a possible stand-up career so be it.

To me, the more I listened, the more I felt that Jeff and Missy were spouting sour grapes. They were upset that Hassan would not stand down and let Jeff try to have his moment in the sun.

[Freitag]

This is an argument between 2 people that applied to 2 people, yet bazillions of XM listeners were forced to listen to an hour of nonsense.

huh? How do you think other listeners react when there's discussions about Paltalk or other boards that they aren't a part of?

A large facet of the show is based on the drama of people's personal lives. Since Hassan has been part of the both the O&A show and R&F show, and since Jeff helps run Foundry (and oh yeah, GOT ENGAGED TO MISSY ON THE SHOW), I think it was very relevant and interesting. In fact, it was kinda cringey for me because I'm friends with Jeff and Missy and have interacted with Hassan before.

[RhinoinMN]

Oh I trust him, he's as American as you or I. He loves it here and has been here for decades making an honest living for his family. The guy works like a dog, he could outwork my day's work in an hour.

I was just using that absurd notion that "Only black comedians can make black jokes" kind of garbage. Since this guy is an Arab comedian, or at the very least Muslim I used the old S.N. word for shock value.

I assumed that you do trust your father, and I completely understand your shock value tactic which was a good one. I just tried to throw a little irony in the way of "forget about the S.N. word, this guy can't trust his dad!"

P.S. and a little off topic. where can I hear or get your music? We don't get much variety up here.

[FMJeff]

I could see FM Jeff's perspective until he made the statement:

"There is no contest out there where the winner is allowed to compete again".

Ask Pat from Moonachie about this regarding the Hot Dog Eating Contest. The only contests that I can think of where a winner is not allowed to win is a radio contest. Most open contests (as this is) there is no pre-requisite of not having competed prior.

I see Hassan's point more given the fact that he was not telling Jeff to not compete. It's an open field and if he wanted to compete again to try to spark a possible stand-up career so be it.

To me, the more I listened, the more I felt that Jeff and Missy were spouting sour grapes. They were upset that Hassan would not stand down and let Jeff try to have his moment in the sun.

I meant to say radio contest. My bad.

I guess you're just not understanding the point of the car crash comedy contest.

Let's look at it from a completely different angle. LOOK AT HIS FIRST PERFORMANCE. DO you think that was awesome to even DESERVE a second shot? Is that the work of someone who gets invited back? Listen to his weak ass material on yesterday's show. Was that so groundbreaking Ron is now considering him for third mic?

Give me a break. Had your shot and blew it. Take your medicine, work harder, and maybe one day you'll be up there b/c someone paid you to be.

[Midkiff]

Hassan sucks

[angrymissy]

Can I just throw this in here

JEFF AND I BOTH KNEW THAT O&A WOULD NOT LET HASSAN TRY OUT AGAIN IN PHILLY

It wasn't that Jeff thought he would LOSE to Hassan, it's that after PNC, Hassan became an egotistical douche ("I'm going to be a regular character on O&A now"), and decided that no one else deserves a shot at a once in a lifetime contest.

Don't forget:

I'M NOT JEFF'S BOY, HE'S LIKE MY FEZ

That is the general attitude thats been going on for years that came to a head because of the PNC situation.

[angrymissy]

If FM Jeff wanted to make his career in comedy then it would be one thing. Hassaan says Jeff said it is just a hobby to him. Hassaan performed at a comedy club with Heat going on outside.


Just so you know, that "comedy club" is in the basement of a bar, and Jeff has also performed there multiple times. If I wanted to, I could walk in and perform there tomorrow night. It's an open mic night.

[RAAMONE]

Let's look at it from a completely different angle. LOOK AT HIS FIRST PERFORMANCE. DO you think that was awesome to even DESERVE a second shot? Is that the work of someone who gets invited back? Listen to his weak ass material on yesterday's show.

i'm not taking sides or anything because i really dont care and hassan does sound like a douche...but...if he is that bad, has weak material, and just sucks overall at life from what i hear. wouldnt it be simple to just compete against him, let him bomb, and you can win the contest? i get that he doesnt appreciate what you did for him, so just watch him fail.

[OneEyeJack]

cant we all just get along... come on, Jeff, Hasson, kiss and make up. The show must go on.

[Death Metal Moe]

Don't forget:

I'M NOT JEFF'S BOY, HE'S LIKE MY FEZ
That is the general attitude thats been going on for years that came to a head because of the PNC situation.

This is really the only part anyone has to know. With one statement, this guy insulted Jeff and the Ron and Fez show.

That's about all I needed to know.

This guy gives dudes named Hassan a bad name. My uncle would be sick if he knew what this douche was up to. I don't even wanna hear that part of yesterday's show now.

[carsonogin]

Give me a break. Had your shot and blew it.

Give me a break. Had your shot and didn't even take it.

[OneEyeJack]

perhaps Jeff and Hasson are looking at this all wrong. Instead of competing against each other , they could combine their comical forces and be a team, like Rowan and Martin.

[Freitag]

perhaps Jeff and Hasson are looking at this all wrong. Instead of competing against each other , they could combine their comical forces and be a team, like Rowan and Martin.

Or Martin and Lewis, and we all know how that turned out.

[angrymissy]

Give me a break. Had your shot and didn't even take it.

Jeff has this little thing called a "job" and "clients" that take up quite a bit of his time.

Otherwise the "mortgage" and "car payments" kind of don't get made.

[OneEyeJack]

Or Martin and Lewis, and we all know how that turned out.

they had their differences but did make up on the Muscular Distrophy tele. But then Martin then drank himself to death.:drunk:

[carsonogin]

Jeff has this little thing called a "job" and "clients" that take up quite a bit of his time.

Otherwise the "mortgage" and "car payments" kind of don't get made.

How does that factor into anything? If Hassan were to concede the contest, would Jeff have not gone becasue of his job? If that's the case where's the problem?

I understand that there's probably a lot of other crap going on and this is just one thing, yet, this is the one thing we are debating.

[carsonogin]

But then Martin then drank himself to death.:drunk:

Shouldn't that guy on the left blow up to about 3 times his own size and call someone a fag?

[OneEyeJack]

How does that factor into anything? If Hassan were to concede the contest, would Jeff have not gone becasue of his job? If that's the case where's the problem?

I understand that there's probably a lot of other crap going on and this is just one thing, yet, this is the one thing we are debating.

hey carsonogin, is that a picture of you under the dot commando logo?

[angrymissy]

How does that factor into anything? If Hassan were to concede the contest, would Jeff have not gone becasue of his job? If that's the case where's the problem?

I understand that there's probably a lot of other crap going on and this is just one thing, yet, this is the one thing we are debating.

Yeah, there's a shitload more crap going on. I could argue this for days, I have issues with arguing and arguing and not letting things go.

The Philly contest is not the root of this argument. It was about loyalty and being a good friend. Like I said, the comment about not being Jeff's boy, Jeff is my Fez, etc. sums up the entire problem.

[carsonogin]

hey carsonogin, is that a picture of you under the dot commando logo?

I wish, I'd be hot and rich, alas, I'm just a dude with an Alyson Michalka obsession.

[carsonogin]

I have issues with arguing and arguing and not letting things go.

Me too, you Scandinavian or something?

Like I said, the comment about not being Jeff's boy, Jeff is my Fez, etc. sums up the entire problem.

I think the problem is Hassan is a douche overall and he did his best to pick the weakest argument you and Jeff could have against him. Now all of us that have little to no information about the overall problem are harping on this one situation.

[Snacks]

I could see FM Jeff's perspective until he made the statement:

"There is no contest out there where the winner is allowed to compete again".

Ask Pat from Moonachie about this regarding the Hot Dog Eating Contest. The only contests that I can think of where a winner is not allowed to win is a radio contest. Most open contests (as this is) there is no pre-requisite of not having competed prior.

I see Hassan's point more given the fact that he was not telling Jeff to not compete. It's an open field and if he wanted to compete again to try to spark a possible stand-up career so be it.

To me, the more I listened, the more I felt that Jeff and Missy were spouting sour grapes. They were upset that Hassan would not stand down and let Jeff try to have his moment in the sun.

Thats how I see it. When its all said and done it sounds like you dont want him to compete for your personal reasons, so isnt that being selfish just like you say hassan is? If this is what he wants to do for a career and this is your hobby or for fun then why are you trying to stop him from competing again? It sounds like you dont want him to compete for your own gain and if he doesn't compete thats one less guy you need to "try" and beat.

Let the guy do what he wants to do. Its his life and his future. After all the bitching and crying online and on the show he probably wont get much support anyway. So ganging up on him will help you win!

i'm not taking sides or anything because i really dont care and hassan does sound like a douche...but...if he is that bad, has weak material, and just sucks overall at life from what i hear. wouldnt it be simple to just compete against him, let him bomb, and you can win the contest? i get that he doesnt appreciate what you did for him, so just watch him fail.

exactly, but thats not the case. Sounds like he may actually be good so it sounds like someone is afraid to compete against him. If the rest of the comedians sucked last time out and he won by default, then you should have no problem beating him? Plus you can then stick it to him and say your a better comedian. The true test of anything is to compete against the best, if he sucks then you shouldnt care if he enters the contest again. If he really is good then you should want to try and beat him!

[angrymissy]

I guess it is a matter of whether or not you think that a friend should respect your request. This can be argued over and over in circles, but Jeff and I feel that this was just a culmination of a million selfish things that he had done recently, and it really came to a head over the PNC situation, and the "I'm not Jeff's BOY, he's like my Fez" comment.

[LD5K]

this is just a chapter from a long book about a onesided relationship.

jeff gave hassan endless favors, and when jeff asks for something that couldn't even measure up to equal the debt owed he flounders.

hassan is a onesided person.

he is a user.

he isn't funny. check the video.

good day sir, you lose.

[angrymissy]

]Sounds like he may actually be good so it sounds like someone is afraid to compete against him. [/B]

Did you hear Hassan on the show yesterday, and hear the famous wolf joke?

I can tell you its not a matter of Jeff being afraid to compete against Hassan. He (and I) were just floored that he would be selfish enough to try out twice after already winning. I guess its a matter of personal opinion to say if thats selfish or not.

[angrymissy]

And Jeff has shared the "stage" with Hassan multiple times before.

[FMJeff]

You guys are confusing the issue. I'm not afraid of competing against Hassan, because I don't care if I win or lose. As he's said, this is not my career or my life. It's a hobby. I've opened for Hassan and I've followed Hassan many times. I will be the first to admit he is more often than not a better stand-up than I am. His act is a more polished simply because he performs more than I do. You can do that when you live in your mother's basement and enjoy a cushy, work from home job that I got for him. This has nothing to do with proving who's the better comic. I don't care who's the better comic.

I would completely agree with you that asking him to step aside so that I can compete would be an inexcusable thing to do if it wasn't for the fact that he already won. He got his shot. This is a radio contest. Imagine the ire from the listeners if a radio show allowed the same person to keep winning concert tickets or a new car. This is the equivalent of a new car in terms of value to an amateur comedian. It's greed, plain and simple.

But let's put that aside. Let's look again at friendship. Let's say you won your car on the radio, and your best buddy had a decent shot to win his as well. Would you greedily compete for the chance to win another car, or would you let your friend share in the wealth, especially if he asked "Hey buddy, you won your car. Do you think maybe you can step aside and let me have my shot at one?"

If you don't, then you thrive on competition. I do not. I don't define myself by how much more funny I am than other comedians. I know a lot of comedians do that. I think it's ridiculous and a little pathetic. It's why I hate Last Comic Standing. Comedy shouldn't be a sport. It's a performance art, like acting. The minute you pre-occupy yourself with who you think you're better than, the vanity takes over. Hassan thinks he's better than me, in almost every respect. That's why he called me his "Fez", in what I imagine in his mind to be his pathetic sidekick, mousy and meek. Fez is neither, and neither am I.

[FMJeff]

Give me a break. Had your shot and didn't even take it.

It should also be said that I contacted SteveC to try out for the car crash comedy tour and they had already loaded it up with competition and that there was no room left for me. So it's not like I didn't take it. I couldn't take it.

[OneEyeJack]

kai sera, sera..
what ever will be, will be..
the futures not ours to see..

[carsonogin]

It should also be said that I contacted SteveC to try out for the car crash comedy tour and they had already loaded it up with competition and that there was no room left for me. So it's not like I didn't take it. I couldn't take it.

Steve C couldn't pull a couple strings for you? Aren't you both Foundry Music guys? That's even worse than Hassan. Didn't that black dude blow everyone out of the water in this contest anyway? I already forget the guy's name, goes to show you how much the contest did for the winners.

I really don't know enough about the entire situation, so I guess I'll just shut the fuck up.

[Snacks]

I guess it is a matter of whether or not you think that a friend should respect your request. This can be argued over and over in circles, but Jeff and I feel that this was just a culmination of a million selfish things that he had done recently, and it really came to a head over the PNC situation, and the "I'm not Jeff's BOY, he's like my Fez" comment.

Your right but he may see it as the opposite. Maybe you guys as a friend should respect the fact that he is trying to do this for his career and any shot or shots he can get will only help orfurther his career. He may have won it already but he knows that he needs to be seen and do things like this as much as he can, so to ask him to take a dive (figurative saying, to not perform) would be just as wrong and selfish.


You guys are confusing the issue. I'm not afraid of competing against Hassan, because I don't care if I win or lose. As he's said, this is not my career or my life. It's a hobby. I've opened for Hassan and I've followed Hassan many times. I will be the first to admit he is more often than not a better stand-up than I am. His act is a more polished simply because he performs more than I do. You can do that when you live in your mother's basement and enjoy a cushy, work from home job that I got for him. This has nothing to do with proving who's the better comic. I don't care who's the better comic..

thats the point, you dont care if you win or lose so let "Your Friend" who is doing this to help his career do it again without the drama and fighting. Like I said above he needs this to help him in a career that he cares about and one that you dont because you have something else. Let him perform and if he wins be happy that he is taking another step forward. If your doing this for fun and to see how good you are then it doesnt matter who wins or who competes.

What your doing is trying to make it sound like you care about all the competitors and this isnt fair to to everyone who is competing because he won. You dont care about the others, you care about yourself. If you cared about others getting their chance then you wouldnt compete either since this is only a hobby and for fun, and you dont care because this isnt your career. People that are competing should be doing so to get their chance and for their career.

[FMJeff]

Steve C couldn't pull a couple strings for you? Aren't you both Foundry Music guys? That's even worse than Hassan. Didn't that black dude blow everyone out of the water in this contest anyway? I already forget the guy's name, goes to show you how much the contest did for the winners.

I really don't know enough about the entire situation, so I guess I'll just shut the fuck up.

Steve walks a very thin tightrope when it comes to FoundryMusic and the show. He would probably get a lot of shit if he got me into a contest that was closed.

[FMJeff]

Your right but he may see it as the opposite. Maybe you guys as a friend should respect the fact that he is trying to do this for his career and any shot or shots he can get will only help orfurther his career. He may have won it already but he knows that he needs to be seen and do things like this as much as he can, so to ask him to take a dive (figurative saying, to not perform) would be just as wrong and selfish.




thats the point, you dont care if you win or lose so let "Your Friend" who is doing this to help his career do it again without the drama and fighting. Like I said above he needs this to help him in a career that he cares about and one that you dont because you have something else. Let him perform and if he wins be happy that he is taking another step forward. If your doing this for fun and to see how good you are then it doesnt matter who wins or who competes.

What your doing is trying to make it sound like you care about all the competitors and this isnt fair to to everyone who is competing because he won. You dont care about the others, you care about yourself. If you cared about others getting their chance then you wouldnt compete either since this is only a hobby and for fun, and you dont care because this isnt your career. People that are competing should be doing so to get their chance and for their career.

Actually, I do care about the competitors, so you don't really know me. I talk to comedians all the time. I am a comedian. I understand how difficult it is to get exposure. It's almost impossible to work your way up the ladder.

And just because its a hobby, doesn't mean I wouldn't pursue that dream if I could. Let's make no mistake about it. Comedy doesn't pay my mortgage or my car loan. My current job does. I'm not about to throw away my life to pursue a dream like this. I have a family. I have a home. Most people don't have that luxury.

[Freitag]

"I don't like to get into arguments like this." - Hassan

Then why are you calling in, Toolbox.

[Team_Ramrod]

I don't like Hassan... he drags down the show and makes my nuts shrivel into my abdomen every time I hear his stupid voice.

[zerothehero]

I know I'm nothing around here so it doesn't really matter what I say, but on one hand, it does seem like sour grapes between the Jeff / Missy and Hassan. Mostly because it's two against one. But that's not really the point.

On the other hand Hassan is coming off as a big fat douche. A good friend asked him to back off because he already won. He didn't back off he chose a selfish move because that's probably what he is.

All the bullshit excuses are just Hussan trying to rationalize his continued one-sidedness.

So now I turn the channels for a while because I'm tired of hearing about this. There's nothing interesting about it and it's frankly kind of irritating to listen to. Hopefully the bit won't linger on and on like yesterday.

[Snoogans]

completely even putting aside the entering of the car crash comedy, the fact that he said things he said to Ron and keeps doing the I didn't wanna talk about this blah blah when he brought everything up and he called in again today pretty much locks him down as a dick

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I missed this, but did Hassan Turn Heel

Arabs can never be Faces, always want the Boos

seemed like he did some stupid things after winning a Contest in which He wasnt the Worst. Dont fuck over your friends until you are selling out Caroline's and have a sitcom Pilot. Also dont mock Jeff to the Person who only likes you because you know him.

To be Honest, all the schlubs in the PNC Car Crash Comedy Contest were Awful. Hassan was like a 6 out of 10 and was able to win. If ANYONE else was remotely funny, Hassan would be sitting Next to Jeff and Missy watching the event.


Side Note:

Jeff Please post when you are Performing, I'm sure there are some of us who would supoort (or heckle) you

:king:

[FMJeff]

Hey Big Guy,

Now that I know you're reading this message board, I just want to say you are an embarassment to yourself. Punch me? Smash my head in with a pipe? What show do you think you're calling? You think Ron respects your machismo? He hates people like that.

Congratulations though. You were successful in getting Ron to say you're both not funny and not wanted.

Nice call with the remark about my marraige and my sex life. You're nothing if not classy.

[RhinoinMN]

I can't stand that S.O.B. either. He couldn't catch a pass if his life depended on it.
http://www.geocities.com/nolefan_fsu/football/jones_hassan2.jpg

[Death Metal Moe]

Hey Big Guy,

Now that I know you're reading this message board, I just want to say you are an embarassment to yourself. Punch me? Smash my head in with a pipe? What show do you think you're calling? You think Ron respects your machismo? He hates people like that.

Congratulations though. You were successful in getting Ron to say you're both not funny and not wanted.

Nice call with the remark about my marraige and my sex life. You're nothing if not classy.

Oh God, he went THAT way? Fuck me man, that's the end of the argument in my mind. He went "Tough Guy" on this one, what a dick licker.

I don't even want to hear yesterday's or today's show now that I know this bullshit is in there somewhere.

I'll pick up on Thursday sometime this weekend.

[FMJeff]

Oh God, he went THAT way? Fuck me man, that's the end of the argument in my mind. He went "Tough Guy" on this one, what a dick licker.

I don't even want to hear yesterday's or today's show now that I know this bullshit is in there somewhere.

I'll pick up on Thursday sometime this weekend.

Audio of the show is on Foundry if you wanna listen .

http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/displaymedia.cfm/id/16136/page/show_video_number_16136.html

[JPMNICK]

just the fact that he thought this was his in on O&A shows what a misguided ass he is. O&A barely give their comedian friends the time of day, let alone some shitty comic who ate his balls on stage.

he is the type of fan who drive O&A and R&F crazy because now he thinks he belongs as a bit player on one of these shows, so every bar night he will be bothering them, I am sure he is sending emails reminding them who he is. just being an annoying douche. he will eventually turn into the "fuck those guys, they never used me when they had a chance" guy, and will talk about how much better the show used to be.

that comment about fez really got me heated. obviously he is someone who has no respect for the show or what the people on the show do. and someone who has no respect for his friend Jeff.

[FMJeff]

just the fact that he thought this was his in on O&A shows what a misguided ass he is. O&A barely give their comedian friends the time of day, let alone some shitty comic who ate his balls on stage.

he is the type of fan who drive O&A and R&F crazy because now he thinks he belongs as a bit player on one of these shows, so every bar night he will be bothering them, I am sure he is sending emails reminding them who he is. just being an annoying douche. he will eventually turn into the "fuck those guys, they never used me when they had a chance" guy, and will talk about how much better the show used to be.

that comment about fez really got me heated. obviously he is someone who has no respect for the show or what the people on the show do. and someone who has no respect for his friend Jeff.

You raise a good point. You think O&A wanted you back after that shitty performance? You think Ron wants you back after your shitty in-studio appearance yesterday? Oof, did you eat it hard. You're funny, but you're not as funny as you think. You still have a long way to go before you're respected in this field, and now's not the time to be burning bridges, especially with your friends, who will be there if you fail or not.

[Death Metal Moe]

just the fact that he thought this was his in on O&A shows what a misguided ass he is. O&A barely give their comedian friends the time of day, let alone some shitty comic who ate his balls on stage.

he is the type of fan who drive O&A and R&F crazy because now he thinks he belongs as a bit player on one of these shows, so every bar night he will be bothering them, I am sure he is sending emails reminding them who he is. just being an annoying douche. he will eventually turn into the "fuck those guys, they never used me when they had a chance" guy, and will talk about how much better the show used to be.

that comment about fez really got me heated. obviously he is someone who has no respect for the show or what the people on the show do. and someone who has no respect for his friend Jeff.

The fans that act like they're "Part of it" now or the shows "Owe" them something drive me up a motherfucking wall too.

Ron and Fez very graciously played our band Unhallowed multiple times on their show and twice as an opening song. I was greateful as hell and will never forget how they give back to their fans.

But that's it man. I would never pester them or ask them to do more for me, that's so fucking rude it's unimaginable. Ron and Fez decided to play our stuff and even shout out our shows from time to time.

They give so much back that when you hear of someone being selfish you want to fucking vomit.

And as I've said multiple times too, the Fez comment is what made it personal for me personally. If it wasn't for that, this might have remained an argument between some friends that was on the show for a short time. This thing got some legs when asshole made that Fez comment.

[Death Metal Moe]

Hassan is a poor man's Harry Tarjanian.

[Freitag]

Hassan is a poor man's Louis "Twitchels" Santini.

Fixed.

[Death Metal Moe]

Fixed.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2249/ohsnap8gt.jpg

[JPMNICK]

Hassan is a poor man's Harry Tarjanian.

at least harry worked for the show, and was actually given the OK to do things by R&F.

i look at hassan as a less enjoyed Frenchy from O&A.

[Freitag]

at least harry worked for the show, and was actually given the OK to do things by R&F.

i look at hassan as a less enjoyed Frenchy from O&A.

That would imply Hassan had a good act before he burned it out.

[Death Metal Moe]

at least harry worked for the show, and was actually given the OK to do things by R&F.

i look at hassan as a less enjoyed Frenchy from O&A.

I liked Harry, I didn't put his name in this thread to tear him down. I was upset when Harry left. I felt he was honestly funny.

[led37zep]

I liked Harry, I didn't put his name in this thread to tear him down. I was upset when Harry left. I felt he was honestly funny.

Pants

[The_Hassan]

You're a real swift one. What do you think an "upstart" or an "unknown" is you moron? An AMATEUR. Otherwise he wouldn't be an upstart or unknown.

Why? Because decent human beings are not motivated by greed. They understand when they win something grand, its by the grace of g-d, or luck, or whatever you believe in, it should be respected. Part of that respect is allowing your peers to share the wealth.

As for being afraid of beating Hassan, if you saw either one of our acts, you'd know both of our acts are equally worthless. I lived with the kid for a little over a year...seen him naked, seen him pass out on the toilet with a bottle of Jameson and a lit cigarette burning into his shirt and chest fat. I'm about as afraid of Hassan's act as I am of getting syphilis from Happy Typing Girl.

first off, you are so full of shit. the idea the friends should not go head to head on equal ground is stupid. friends do it all the time. should we all be throwing any game we pay together, because were friends? no, that would be stupid. what were you afraid of then jeff? beating me and hurting my feelings? of course not, my feelings wouldnt be hurt. you basically wanted to improve your odds in a contest that you said you didnt think you had a chance of winning. so what then, I should have to stand down so you can loose? seems kind of stupid to me. I never asked you to not go, I wouldnt hold you back like that. I also want to address this idea of "its greedy to want to win twice". hey winning team of the super bowl, it would be fucked up to win next year, sit it out.

missy: you asked if I was going to have jeff backstage, I said no because he is going to be too nervous for me and I was nervous enough, you agreed. also, you are taking the "jeffs boy/my fez" thing totally out of context. I meant boy as in friend, not slave. and my fez was followed by hes an emotional train wreck who cries in public, an obvious joke that ron got and laughed at.

this is the last time I want to address this, Its stupid and faggy and im sick of it. I will say this tho, jeff, you are a total pussy, your friends know it, your wife knows it and so do your family. I can write an endless list of examples of the fact but I wont. Im better at stand up then you because I try more, I would agree to that 100%. your the jackass who thinks he should earn something for an art form he dosent respect or want to work on. I have seen every set of yours, you weren't born with a gift, the whole fucking thing takes day in day out grinding. you call me greedy, but your a guy who has most of everything he wants, why do you feel like your entailed to something im good at because I work at it? its because your a bitter ass. peace out

[Furtherman]

Well, now you have no friends.

http://www.newmexiconuts.net/catalog/tumbleweed.jpg
Welcome to Hassantown

[angrymissy]

Hassan, I've taken your side before on shit, and I stand 100% behind what I said. I think you were way selfish about the whole PNC situation, and the "Jeff's my boy, he's my Fez" comment just made it worse.

[The_Hassan]

still taking it out of context, but whatever. your still cool in my book miss.

also, who wouldnt want to repeat something they loved so much the first time they did it?

why wouldnt I want to do that again? it really makes no sense to me

[Furtherman]

why wouldnt I want to do that again?

Because along with true friendship comes sacrifice.

[The_Hassan]

when I asked o&a to do it again, I had no idea jeff would get like this. I know he wanted to go down, but I didnt think he was taking seriously. my question is still this, its his hobby, its my life goal, why should I have to stand down? I didnt even ask him too, I would never do something like that because its scummy. what if I did stand down and he lost, how would that make me feel? pissed, thats how it would make me feel. its easy to take a high ground, im being realistic.

ps: if the rolls were reversed, jeff would absolutely try to win it twice.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

On the plus side, this week's Old Friends segment is going to write itself.

[Tenbatsuzen]

first off, you are so full of shit. the idea the friends should not go head to head on equal ground is stupid. friends do it all the time. should we all be throwing any game we pay together, because were friends? no, that would be stupid. what were you afraid of then jeff? beating me and hurting my feelings? of course not, my feelings wouldnt be hurt. you basically wanted to improve your odds in a contest that you said you didnt think you had a chance of winning. so what then, I should have to stand down so you can loose? seems kind of stupid to me. I never asked you to not go, I wouldnt hold you back like that. I also want to address this idea of "its greedy to want to win twice". hey winning team of the super bowl, it would be fucked up to win next year, sit it out.

missy: you asked if I was going to have jeff backstage, I said no because he is going to be too nervous for me and I was nervous enough, you agreed. also, you are taking the "jeffs boy/my fez" thing totally out of context. I meant boy as in friend, not slave. and my fez was followed by hes an emotional train wreck who cries in public, an obvious joke that ron got and laughed at.

this is the last time I want to address this, Its stupid and faggy and im sick of it. I will say this tho, jeff, you are a total pussy, your friends know it, your wife knows it and so do your family. I can write an endless list of examples of the fact but I wont. Im better at stand up then you because I try more, I would agree to that 100%. your the jackass who thinks he should earn something for an art form he dosent respect or want to work on. I have seen every set of yours, you weren't born with a gift, the whole fucking thing takes day in day out grinding. you call me greedy, but your a guy who has most of everything he wants, why do you feel like your entailed to something im good at because I work at it? its because your a bitter ass. peace out

still taking it out of context, but whatever. your still cool in my book miss.

also, who wouldnt want to repeat something they loved so much the first time they did it?

why wouldnt I want to do that again? it really makes no sense to me

when I asked o&a to do it again, I had no idea jeff would get like this. I know he wanted to go down, but I didnt think he was taking seriously. my question is still this, its his hobby, its my life goal, why should I have to stand down? I didnt even ask him too, I would never do something like that because its scummy. what if I did stand down and he lost, how would that make me feel? pissed, thats how it would make me feel. its easy to take a high ground, im being realistic.

ps: if the rolls were reversed, jeff would absolutely try to win it twice.

For a guy who doesn't want to get involved in this shit, you're showing yourself to be a hypocrite.

Why the fuck do you care what anyone on this board thinks of you, either on the air on in "board life"? YOu're not a part of the show, you don't really come to a lot of "board" events, so for a person who says he doesn't want to get involved, you are certainly digging your hole and making it worse.

[FMJeff]

when I asked o&a to do it again, I had no idea jeff would get like this. I know he wanted to go down, but I didnt think he was taking seriously. my question is still this, its his hobby, its my life goal, why should I have to stand down? I didnt even ask him too, I would never do something like that because its scummy. what if I did stand down and he lost, how would that make me feel? pissed, thats how it would make me feel. its easy to take a high ground, im being realistic.

ps: if the rolls were reversed, jeff would absolutely try to win it twice.

I find it midly ironic the man who took a private fight between friends to a national forum is calling ME an attention whore.

Enjoy obscurity, Hassan. Rest assured, you won't have to deal with such a "terrible person" like me ever again.

[FMJeff]

still taking it out of context, but whatever. your still cool in my book miss.

also, who wouldnt want to repeat something they loved so much the first time they did it?

why wouldnt I want to do that again? it really makes no sense to me

I love this, taken out of context. We all heard the broadcast. It's not taken out of context. Everyone heard the context.

You called me your sidekick, your lesser half. That's what you meant by "I'm your Fez." You diminish and insult Fez and me at the same time.

Anyone who needs context can listen to the entire broadcast here:

http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/displaymedia.cfm/id/16136/page/show_video_number_16136.html

[lleeder]

Hassan wanted to be the Buckstar of Car Crash Comedy.

[LD5K]

hey isnt hassan that guy who made out with that poor mentally retarded girl at the ron and fez halloween party a few years ago?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Hassan wanted to be the Buckstar of Car Crash Comedy.

nice last comic standing reference

:king:

[FMJeff]

hey isnt hassan that guy who made out with that poor mentally retarded girl at the ron and fez halloween party a few years ago?

By golly, I do believe you are correct, Johnny Knoxville.

[Hottub]

:popcorn:

[The_Hassan]

I love this, taken out of context. We all heard the broadcast. It's not taken out of context. Everyone heard the context.

You called me your sidekick, your lesser half. That's what you meant by "I'm your Fez." You diminish and insult Fez and me at the same time.

Anyone who needs context can listen to the entire broadcast here:

http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/displaymedia.cfm/id/16136/page/show_video_number_16136.html

the "my fez" thing was about your non stop crying.

[lleeder]

the "my fez" thing was about your non stop crying.

It would be funny if this was just Missy's board character. :lol:

[FMJeff]

the "my fez" thing was about your non stop crying.

So you WERE insulting Fez. Thank you for the admission. For your knowledge, Fez cries because he has serious issues in his life, both physical and mental. I'm sure nobody reading this thread appreciates you using them as a punchline to make fun of me.

Why do you insist on burying yourself deeper? You made your point, on two separate days. This was my last gift to you I guess, your final appearance on the Ron & Fez show. I'm sorry you didn't use the time to showcase your brilliant comedy. It's a shame really. You're actually very funny when you're not being an awful person.

[cozzie]

Hashole, I hope that you rot in hell. you threw your buddy under a bus terminal on a radio show. You said you didn't want to talk about it , but you couldn't keep your FAT mouth shut. If you were ever a freind to FM Jeff, why not just shut the F up. Quit posting and quit being a fucking cunt!

[Midkiff]

Hassan is absolutely 100% wrong here, but I do have to say that when Jeff keeps saying he didn't really win, just was the only one not to crash out, that is a little cringey for me. I mean, that's how you win it. Even if he had tied with somebody else, they would have to face off until somebody did crash out, then he would win anyway.

That being said, Hassan is an unfunny douche.

[led37zep]

I find it midly ironic the man who took a private fight between friends to a national forum is calling ME an attention whore.


Exactly!!!! How about one of you stop being a pussy and call the other one, bitching on a board is only going to entertain us, not solve anything....wait.

[Devo37]

from what was said on the radio (which obviously is just the cliff-notes version of the whole story), i don't think hasan did anything all that bad.

if hasan's pursuing a career in stand-up, and jeff's not, i think it was unfair to ask him to step aside from a big opportunity for someone who's just doing stand-up as a hobby.

and the whole "you already won, now let me win!" argument sounds like sour grapes. asking your friend to basically take a dive doesn't sound like something one friend should ask of another.

of course, that's just my opinion from not knowing all the facts...

CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[howmanyfingers]

CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Agree to disagree? Oh sorry, wrong show..

[Snoogans]

Here is kinda how I see the whole thing.
Had Jeff and Hassan been sitting around one day and heard OnA mention the contest and Hassan just joined on his own, then I think it would be unfair for Jeff to ask him not to compete in the second one.
Since the ONLY reason Hassan even was allowed to try it was because Jeff hooked him up. That changes the whole situation I think.

[FMJeff]

It doesn't even matter anymore. Mods, can you lock this thread. I would just rather the whole issue died an ugly death. It shouldn't have been brought up in front of everyone anyway. None of you understand the dynamic of our relationship, so trying to explain it to you is completely pointless. That, and it really shouldn't have been anyone's business.

I'm sorry he bothered you all with this stupid arguement, and I'm sorry I entertained it. It was an incredible waste of time and we all learned nothing.

Just lock it.

[Midkiff]

lock it up neeeeogga

[midwestjeff]

lock it up neeeeogga

What, no cat pic for that one? You're really slipping Midkiff. I'm inconsolable.