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Patches
10-12-2007, 10:41 PM
It seems to be the trend these days to tear Dane Cook a new one. From legit movie critics to the least of influential bloggers, he seems to be the 'it' boy to tear up... I just don't see it... here are some arguments against I heard-

"He's not funny"

Watch his first Comedy Central Presents. I dare you not to laugh.

"He rips off Louis CK"

This I've heard, and heard the evidence, and it is damning. But I am willing to grant a pardon based on "parrallel writing". The only thing I willl give those who prescribe to this is the bit about the "itchy asshole" and "naming your kids". Dane and Louis EXCEL (especially Louis) in absolute infantile humor. I've seen CK experiment with the biggest load of crap in small clubs, that you would absolutely swear you said when you were 8- Did Dane rip off Louis, or did Dane remember his childhood and put a humorous spin on it (though admittedly MUCH better by CK)? Based on that AT LEAST 90 percent of his act is undisputedly original, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

"He is extremely popular and has nothing important to say"

Like, I don't know, Seinfeld? Solve Darfur he won't. Make you laugh. Maybe.

He can't act.

Could Carrey off the bat? What about Oscar Winner Robin Williams? All of a sudden, Oscar mentioned Steve Carrell? Adam Sandler who can get mention this year? There have been goofier. Granted if Mr. Cook wanted recognition as an actor, his best bet would have been SNL, or some warmup, but more implausible actors have become legit (all mentioned above, Mark Wahlberg, Will Smith, Christ- nearly Eminem)

"Simmons says he pulls for the Yanks and Sox."

That I can't defend.

"He is overexposed"

Again, can't defend. Product of his own hype machine. Should have stuck to the stand up circuit for longer.


All in all, the man is FUNNY. Should go back to his roots, take time off, write and come back big time. He won't, money way to big to, but hey...

sailor
10-12-2007, 10:49 PM
good luck chuck was enjoyable. his bit part in london was pretty funny.

mikeyboy
10-12-2007, 10:54 PM
I made it through about 40 minutes of his last HBO comedy barely cracking a smile. I was going into it completely open too. His material isn't really all that funny. He has sort of funny ways of saying things, a relatability factor, and charisma that seems to make the audience think he's actually saying something funny. Type out his act and read it, though. There's not a lot there.

TheMojoPin
10-12-2007, 10:56 PM
He's not funny.

He was never funny. His act consists of 90% of it braying like a jackass and lurching around the stage and making wacky faces. I remember seeing him years ago on Comedy Central showcase show (a bunch of different comics) where he was wearing a black suit jacket with a black tank top or t-shirt and I remember really hating his act then. It seemed to consist mostly of screaming every punchline as much as possible. I gave his first album a couple shots because my brother and a few friends were nuts over it, but it left me cold. It was all him being as loud as possible and making up cutesy nicknames for shit.

He's become one of the most notorious joke thieves in his short career in comedic history, and that's just fucking sad. He's already up there with Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia, and he's been around, what, 4 years? 5? It seems like he never had his own act to at least start with. It's pathetic. He just "sells" it better because he embraces the whole "youth guerilla marketing" thing and he's reasonably decent looking...well, at least in the hideous world of stand up comics.

He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing. And I'm not saying he has to be varied...hell, Seinfeld and Larry David have been nothing but the same characters in everything. But they at least had something you could glom onto in terms of a personality tic or tone or something. Cook just vaguely exists. I'm not even going to go sar as Mikey and say that he seems likeable...he seems like an insufferable douche. Remember the guys you hung out with who thought they were hilarious but weren't but wouldn't shut the fuck up trying to be funny? Yeah, imagine him with a ton of money and an ego the size of a Buick. Awesome.

He's an even worse singer.

He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now.

Fezticle98
10-12-2007, 11:00 PM
I'm not a fan.

I have not seen the Comedy Central Presents, but I'll try to check it out. Looks like it's on next Tuesday. It was filmed back in 2000, is it possible that he was funny then but has gotten less funny? Probably not.

He was ok in his bit part in Waiting, I guess.

TheMojoPin
10-12-2007, 11:03 PM
I think it's ironic he was in Waiting, since he ultimately strikes me as an uglier, less funny and personality-free version of Ryan Reynolds.

TooLowBrow
10-12-2007, 11:14 PM
He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing.
the same couldve, and probably was said about jim carrey. and while he's not the best actor, he certainly has made strides towards establishing himself as an actor and not just a comic. so, in short, its easy to judge and placehold comics/actors but you never know what will turn out.
also, i thought your judgment was true but a have to offer the opposite side

Patches
10-12-2007, 11:23 PM
Well, if you are going to start a thread titled, in defense of Dane Cook... you may as well defend him.

"His act consists of 90% of it braying like a jackass and lurching around the stage and making wacky faces."

90 percent? Come on. Yes, physical comedy and acting like a total ass is part of it- but when it works it works excellently with the material. And it is not 90 percent.

"I gave his first album a couple shots because my brother and a few friends were nuts over it, but it left me cold."

That would be Harmful If Swallowed. The main part being the uncensored version of his Comedy Central Presents, extended to a full hour. It cracked me up dude.

"He's become one of the most notorious joke thieves in his short career in comedic history, and that's just fucking sad. He's already up there with Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia, and he's been around, what, 4 years? 5?"

This I'll fight you over. I've mentioned the biggest bits in question, and am willing to grant "parallel writing" to status over. Cook has meticulously toiled at his craft and I will not call him a 'joke stealer'. He has the cash- has he paid other comics for stolen jokes like Williams? Has he been made an ass of for the entire internet to see like Mencia? (I've got nothing on Leary- I'll take your word for it) I know CK did express displeasure with Dane, but from everything I've heard, Cook is one of the hardest working comice in the biz- I doubt jokes are stolen with intent.

"He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. "

Dude, its early. I'm pretty sure Happy Gilmore, Waterboy and Billy Madison were the same character. Ace Venturas, The Mask, Dumb and Dumber? Granted. these cracked us up, but these two dudes are winning Oscars within 10 years- count on it. Cook should have learned to act, but comics are the most adept to the craft- you never know.


His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing.

Again, give him a chance to learn the craft.

"Remember the guys you hung out with who thought they were hilarious but weren't but wouldn't shut the fuck up trying to be funny?"

I wouldn't go that far.

"He's an even worse singer."

Seriously, Dane... I am trying to defend you here. WTF

"He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now."

Wow. I don't know about all that. He has talent- A ton of it. He is not a schtick or a gimmick like Clay. He identifies with an audience, and exploits it. Does he blow your mind? no. Does he make you think? no. Does he change your life? No. Does he make you laugh? I say yes.

What more do you want from a standup comic?

NickyL0885
10-12-2007, 11:49 PM
Well, if you are going to start a thread titled, in defense of Dane Cook... you may as well defend him.

"His act consists of 90% of it braying like a jackass and lurching around the stage and making wacky faces."

90 percent? Come on. Yes, physical comedy and acting like a total ass is part of it- but when it works it works excellently with the material. And it is not 90 percent.

"I gave his first album a couple shots because my brother and a few friends were nuts over it, but it left me cold."

That would be Harmful If Swallowed. The main part being the uncensored version of his Comedy Central Presents, extended to a full hour. It cracked me up dude.

"He's become one of the most notorious joke thieves in his short career in comedic history, and that's just fucking sad. He's already up there with Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia, and he's been around, what, 4 years? 5?"

This I'll fight you over. I've mentioned the biggest bits in question, and am willing to grant "parallel writing" to status over. Cook has meticulously toiled at his craft and I will not call him a 'joke stealer'. He has the cash- has he paid other comics for stolen jokes like Williams? Has he been made an ass of for the entire internet to see like Mencia? (I've got nothing on Leary- I'll take your word for it) I know CK did express displeasure with Dane, but from everything I've heard, Cook is one of the hardest working comice in the biz- I doubt jokes are stolen with intent.

"He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. "

Dude, its early. I'm pretty sure Happy Gilmore, Waterboy and Billy Madison were the same character. Ace Venturas, The Mask, Dumb and Dumber? Granted. these cracked us up, but these two dudes are winning Oscars within 10 years- count on it. Cook should have learned to act, but comics are the most adept to the craft- you never know.


His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing.

Again, give him a chance to learn the craft.

"Remember the guys you hung out with who thought they were hilarious but weren't but wouldn't shut the fuck up trying to be funny?"

I wouldn't go that far.

"He's an even worse singer."

Seriously, Dane... I am trying to defend you here. WTF

"He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now."

Wow. I don't know about all that. He has talent- A ton of it. He is not a schtick or a gimmick like Clay. He identifies with an audience, and exploits it. Does he blow your mind? no. Does he make you think? no. Does he change your life? No. Does he make you laugh? I say yes.

What more do you want from a standup comic?

here here! :thumbup:

Team_Ramrod
10-13-2007, 02:12 AM
It seems to be the trend these days to tear Dane Cook a new one. From legit movie critics to the least of influential bloggers, he seems to be the 'it' boy to tear up... I just don't see it... here are some arguments against I heard-

"He's not funny"

Watch his first Comedy Central Presents. I dare you not to laugh.

"He rips off Louis CK"

This I've heard, and heard the evidence, and it is damning. But I am willing to grant a pardon based on "parrallel writing". The only thing I willl give those who prescribe to this is the bit about the "itchy asshole" and "naming your kids". Dane and Louis EXCEL (especially Louis) in absolute infantile humor. I've seen CK experiment with the biggest load of crap in small clubs, that you would absolutely swear you said when you were 8- Did Dane rip off Louis, or did Dane remember his childhood and put a humorous spin on it (though admittedly MUCH better by CK)? Based on that AT LEAST 90 percent of his act is undisputedly original, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

"He is extremely popular and has nothing important to say"

Like, I don't know, Seinfeld? Solve Darfur he won't. Make you laugh. Maybe.

He can't act.

Could Carrey off the bat? What about Oscar Winner Robin Williams? All of a sudden, Oscar mentioned Steve Carrell? Adam Sandler who can get mention this year? There have been goofier. Granted if Mr. Cook wanted recognition as an actor, his best bet would have been SNL, or some warmup, but more implausible actors have become legit (all mentioned above, Mark Wahlberg, Will Smith, Christ- nearly Eminem)

"Simmons says he pulls for the Yanks and Sox."

That I can't defend.

"He is overexposed"

Again, can't defend. Product of his own hype machine. Should have stuck to the stand up circuit for longer.


All in all, the man is FUNNY. Should go back to his roots, take time off, write and come back big time. He won't, money way to big to, but hey...

Well, if you are going to start a thread titled, in defense of Dane Cook... you may as well defend him.

"His act consists of 90% of it braying like a jackass and lurching around the stage and making wacky faces."

90 percent? Come on. Yes, physical comedy and acting like a total ass is part of it- but when it works it works excellently with the material. And it is not 90 percent.

"I gave his first album a couple shots because my brother and a few friends were nuts over it, but it left me cold."

That would be Harmful If Swallowed. The main part being the uncensored version of his Comedy Central Presents, extended to a full hour. It cracked me up dude.

"He's become one of the most notorious joke thieves in his short career in comedic history, and that's just fucking sad. He's already up there with Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia, and he's been around, what, 4 years? 5?"

This I'll fight you over. I've mentioned the biggest bits in question, and am willing to grant "parallel writing" to status over. Cook has meticulously toiled at his craft and I will not call him a 'joke stealer'. He has the cash- has he paid other comics for stolen jokes like Williams? Has he been made an ass of for the entire internet to see like Mencia? (I've got nothing on Leary- I'll take your word for it) I know CK did express displeasure with Dane, but from everything I've heard, Cook is one of the hardest working comice in the biz- I doubt jokes are stolen with intent.

"He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. "

Dude, its early. I'm pretty sure Happy Gilmore, Waterboy and Billy Madison were the same character. Ace Venturas, The Mask, Dumb and Dumber? Granted. these cracked us up, but these two dudes are winning Oscars within 10 years- count on it. Cook should have learned to act, but comics are the most adept to the craft- you never know.


His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing.

Again, give him a chance to learn the craft.

"Remember the guys you hung out with who thought they were hilarious but weren't but wouldn't shut the fuck up trying to be funny?"

I wouldn't go that far.

"He's an even worse singer."

Seriously, Dane... I am trying to defend you here. WTF

"He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now."

Wow. I don't know about all that. He has talent- A ton of it. He is not a schtick or a gimmick like Clay. He identifies with an audience, and exploits it. Does he blow your mind? no. Does he make you think? no. Does he change your life? No. Does he make you laugh? I say yes.

What more do you want from a standup comic?





::Slow Clap::

Death Metal Moe
10-13-2007, 04:40 AM
Dane Cook is an unfunny faggot.

EliSnow
10-13-2007, 05:02 AM
He has sort of funny ways of saying things,

And even that, I think he ripped off. When I first listened to Cook, I thought his delivery, the way he pronounced words, cadence, etc. sounded an awful lot like Brian Regan.

Anyone else here this?

AnnoyedGrunt
10-13-2007, 05:06 AM
One thing that bugs me about Dane (and it's not his fault) is that during his big stadium shows everyone is already so familiar with his material that people cheer when the recognize the setups to jokes they like.

King Hippos Bandaid
10-13-2007, 05:45 AM
Ive ranted too many times on How Dane Cook is not Funny and he takes Advantage of the feeble minded and Chicks are attracted to him.

I wont rant, but I will say that I hope the Dane Cook Fad blows over

his best movie was Simon Sez with the Gr8 Dennis Rodman

:king:

sailor
10-13-2007, 05:52 AM
One thing that bugs me about Dane (and it's not his fault) is that during his big stadium shows everyone is already so familiar with his material that people cheer when the recognize the setups to jokes they like.

that's why you constantly need to create new material.

fezident
10-13-2007, 06:04 AM
Danes career arc is quite wacky.

There definitely WAS a time, back in 99 and 2000, when he definitely WAS f'cking hilarious. He actually wrote funny, observational material and delivered it with a lot of energy. He performed last at that Denis Leary charity event (Cam Neely Foundation??) and he took the roof off the place. I would show that segment to anyone & everyone and we all thought he was a genius. We all KNEW that he was gonna one day be the next big thing.

Shortly thereafter, he started to sssuck. It seemed like he just completely stopped WRITING pieces. It seemed like he would just go on stage to jump around, goof off, make wacky noises and silly faces.

By the time VICIOUS CIRCLE aired on HBO, there was nothing left. There just weren't really any JOKES in that 2 hour special. That show was actually more enjoyable with the sound on your tv turned off.

My theory is; he had 15 years to sharpen & fine tune his original material. But, the stuff that he had to write very quickly (once his career started to take off) feels slapped together and hollow.
It happens to musicians all the time. Their 1st record is brilliant. 2nd record..... not so much.

sailor
10-13-2007, 06:13 AM
It happens to musicians all the time. Their 1st record is brilliant. 2nd record..... not so much.

you hear it about movie writers as well. something like, you have your whole life to write your first movie and if it goes well you have 6 months to write your 2nd.

realmenhatelife
10-13-2007, 06:23 AM
If you like Dane just like him, you dont have to defend or convince anyone else. The dude makes more money than all of us together, so its obvious someone enjoys his act.

He invites his own backlash though; to start he courts the audience that would never normally be into stand up.

What bugs me the most about him is his bullshit humility and trying sell that 'hey man, i was an outcast in highschool too' cus I'm sure he read in a comedy book somewhere that the best stand ups are often 'troubled'

hedges
10-13-2007, 06:32 AM
[COLOR=Red]his best movie was Simon Sez with the Gr8 Dennis Rodman


I've never heard of this movie and I've never seen him act. I think his overwhelming popularity is going to hurt his career in the long run. And was the deal with that song?

torker
10-13-2007, 06:39 AM
Dane Cook is an unfunny faggot.
::slow clap::

sailor
10-13-2007, 06:56 AM
::slow clap::

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EliSnow
10-13-2007, 07:02 AM
::slow clap::

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sailor
10-13-2007, 07:16 AM
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underdog
10-13-2007, 07:29 AM
When I started watching Tourgasm, I was a fan. By the end, I thought Dane Cook was such a tool and a douchebag. And when I tried to watch his special that followed it, I couldn't even make it through. It was fucking awful.

TheMojoPin
10-13-2007, 07:30 AM
"He's become one of the most notorious joke thieves in his short career in comedic history, and that's just fucking sad. He's already up there with Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia, and he's been around, what, 4 years? 5?"

This I'll fight you over. I've mentioned the biggest bits in question, and am willing to grant "parallel writing" to status over. Cook has meticulously toiled at his craft and I will not call him a 'joke stealer'. He has the cash- has he paid other comics for stolen jokes like Williams? Has he been made an ass of for the entire internet to see like Mencia? (I've got nothing on Leary- I'll take your word for it) I know CK did express displeasure with Dane, but from everything I've heard, Cook is one of the hardest working comice in the biz- I doubt jokes are stolen with intent.

Even with the joke stealing aside, I am baffled as to how anyone could think he's one of the "hardest working" comedians around. As people have pointed out, he has some of the most limited sets of any major comic that I've ever seen. Sure, comics work routines over and over again, but even people that can't stand him know all of his bits because that's few he has or how similar they all are. Like it was pointed out, he plays to his base...his shows for years have pretty much all been the "college scene." If he wants to do that, fine...but that's hardly "hard work." One of the classic things about being a comedian is toiling in the trenches of the shitty clubs and such...that's where those guys typically hone their best acts. Cook has seemingly played it safe for as much as possible...using the faceless, impersonal route of the internet to spread his name as opposed to actually getting out there and touring everywhere when he was still a nobody. Even he talks about how his career rise was so insanely fast...it's cliche, but the best of these guys make their bones toiling on the circuit, the good and bad parts. Cook's inexperience, to me, is woefully apparent as his career goes on and he keeps stretching variations of the same bits thinner and thinner.

"He's a horrible actor. All the guys you mentioned at least showed something off the bat in their early movies or performances that implied they could do something different or of quality. Cook just shows up recites his lines. "

Dude, its early. I'm pretty sure Happy Gilmore, Waterboy and Billy Madison were the same character. Ace Venturas, The Mask, Dumb and Dumber? Granted. these cracked us up, but these two dudes are winning Oscars within 10 years- count on it. Cook should have learned to act, but comics are the most adept to the craft- you never know.

OK, Adam Sandler is a HORRIBLE example of acting versatility or development. His "serious" roles are all written to cater to his "idiot manchild" persona. But both he and Carey both had incredibly manic and bizarre personalities and tics to glom onto with those early roles. Cook goes out of his to seem as normal and "cool" as possible...he has no personality on stage except in terms of being loud or even louder. On top of that, I'm not a fan of most comedians making the jump to "serious" acting because most of them are terrible at it. Dane, however, thinks that the immediate route for him...what fucking comedian decides he'd rather be the boring straight man to Jessica-fucking-Alba playing "wacky?"

His stubble has more fucking personality than he does. There's no difference between any of the characters he's played so far and how he comes across in interviews and his act. None. Nothing.

Again, give him a chance to learn the craft.

Why? He can't even learn the basic craft of being a comedian...now he's supposed to be a singer and serious actor?

"He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now."

Wow. I don't know about all that. He has talent- A ton of it. He is not a schtick or a gimmick like Clay. He identifies with an audience, and exploits it. Does he blow your mind? no. Does he make you think? no. Does he change your life? No. Does he make you laugh? I say yes.

What more do you want from a standup comic?

I just don't see the talent. All I see is a gimmick...his nonsensical physical mannerisms, his ridiculous noises and made up words, his audience and internet "relationships"...all window dressing that he uses to mask that there's ultimately nothing to his standup. I think it's a false point to say that we expect him to "change our lives"...but yes, I do expect insanely successful comedians to have some kind of intellectual core that does make you think and fully appreciate just what is making you laugh so hard. Cook is all surface with no center. Guys like him and Dice are the exception because they basically blind you with their stage persona to effectively hide that they have nothing else and then they do variations of the same act until it completely collapses. They have no personalities on stage...just acts where they numbly recite the same lines like they're catch phrases to please as much as possible before everyone finally turns on them.

KnoxHarrington
10-13-2007, 08:00 AM
Saying this makes you sound like an overly hip snob, but isn't it kind of the case that being overly idolized and loved in comedy basically ruins you? I think there has to be this edge of tension there, this sense that you might go too far and alienate the audience. It doesn't have to go as far as Bill Hicks did, in which some shows seemed like he and the audience were actively fighting each other, but I think it has to be there.

Dane Cook's concerts are more like rock concerts in that an audience is going to hear what they expect to hear. They want to hear those bits live they've heard on CD's. And that's not necessarily a conducive atmosphere for good comedy.

paulisded
10-13-2007, 08:47 AM
When I started watching Tourgasm, I was a fan. By the end, I thought Dane Cook was such a tool and a douchebag. And when I tried to watch his special that followed it, I couldn't even make it through. It was fucking awful.

Thank God there were other comedians on Tourgasm, as it was nothing but Dane pleasuring himself. I cringed with every interview segment. Putting a bunch of comedians on a rock 'n' roll tour bus is not "historic".

The bottom line is he has NEVER made me laugh...and I've endured him long before he became famous. He's the Tila Tequila of comedy...without the bisexuality.

led37zep
10-13-2007, 08:52 AM
The bottom line is he has NEVER made me laugh...and I've endured him long before he became famous.

not even the slightest chuckle?

Kevin
10-13-2007, 09:13 AM
He is still not as unfunny as Bob Faggot.. At least i laughed sometimes with Dane.. Bobs act of OH look at me i played a nice down to earth dad on TV.. But I'm really not.. I AM A CURSING MOTHER FUCKER MAN!!! I am different.. I watched his act on HBO and i had to turn that shit off within 3 Min's.. Not kidding.. 3 Min's.. He is the most fake, forced, unfunny piece of shit comic ever. Dane sucks, this guy is pathetic...


And i never really liked Carlin either.

And i hate Dennis Hicks as a comic, But i usually like most of his acting roles.. He is an overrated comic and a really underrated actor.

KnoxHarrington
10-13-2007, 09:25 AM
He is still not as unfunny as Bob Faggot.. At least i laughed sometimes with Dane.. Bobs act of OH look at me i played a nice down to earth dad on TV.. But I'm really not.. I AM A CURSING MOTHER FUCKER MAN!!! I am different.. I watched his act on HBO and i had to turn that shit off within 3 Min's.. Not kidding.. 3 Min's.. He is the most fake, forced, unfunny piece of shit comic ever. Dane sucks, this guy is pathetic...


And i never really liked Carlin either.

And i hate Dennis Hicks as a comic, But i usually like most of his acting roles.. He is an overrated comic and a really underrated actor.

You've gotta wonder this: if Bob Saget had truly been this edgy, out-of-control, filthy comic before "Full House", why the hell did he take that job? Would Bill Hicks have taken a role on "My Two Dads"?

epo
10-13-2007, 09:32 AM
He's the Andrew Dice Clay of this generation...the briefly and insanely popular comic that within a year or two everyone looks back on like, "what the fuck were we thinking?" It's funny how both are also propped up by false, "oh, they're so cool" bullshit reputations that supposedly make them "better" than other comedians. See you in obscurity, Dane. The backlash has been in full swing for a while now.

Thank You Sir. You have summed up my thoughts for me.

epo
10-13-2007, 09:33 AM
You've gotta wonder this: if Bob Saget had truly been this edgy, out-of-control, filthy comic before "Full House", why the hell did he take that job? Would Bill Hicks have taken a role on "My Two Dads"?

Probably not. I'll base that on the fact that he talked about turning down commercial endorsements, and not doing it because he "wasn't a whore".

Kevin
10-13-2007, 09:34 AM
You've gotta wonder this: if Bob Saget had truly been this edgy, out-of-control, filthy comic before "Full House", why the hell did he take that job? Would Bill Hicks have taken a role on "My Two Dads"?

He does the same fucking fake act in his acting roles..

He was in the TV show Huff on Showtime... Where he played this actor who played a TV show nice dad, but in real life he was this cursing drug addict whom Oliver Platt's character continually had to bail out and send to rehab...

And then on Entourage where he was a guy that took drugs and hung at a madams house all day.. STOP IT ALREADY... IS THAT BOB SAGGET DOING ALL OF THESE WACKY SHOCKING THINGS?? It just bugs me to no end.. I could take it if he was actually funny.. But he isn't..

mikeyboy
10-13-2007, 10:03 AM
He is still not as unfunny as Bob Faggot.. At least i laughed sometimes with Dane.. Bobs act of OH look at me i played a nice down to earth dad on TV.. But I'm really not.. I AM A CURSING MOTHER FUCKER MAN!!! I am different.. I watched his act on HBO and i had to turn that shit off within 3 Min's.. Not kidding.. 3 Min's.. He is the most fake, forced, unfunny piece of shit comic ever. Dane sucks, this guy is pathetic...


And i never really liked Carlin either.

And i hate Dennis Hicks as a comic, But i usually like most of his acting roles.. He is an overrated comic and a really underrated actor.

I think you're off base on Carlin, and who the fuck is Dennis Hicks?

Kevin
10-13-2007, 10:07 AM
I think you're off base on Carlin, and who the fuck is Dennis Hicks?


Carlin never did it for me.. And i call Leary Dennis Hicks.. Because he basically stole all of Bill Hicks act..

King Hippos Bandaid
10-13-2007, 10:17 AM
I think you're off base on Carlin, and who the fuck is Dennis Hicks?


I assume he meant Bill Hicks

I liked Carlin, seems like now he just rambles kinda like Robert Klein

A certain Bridie in the Tree said that he didn't like his Interview with Robert Klein yesterday and even compared him to an Old Jewish Lady


:king:

drusilla
10-13-2007, 10:43 AM
i tried watching vicious circle. i really don't think he's funny at all. he just gets the crowd all riled up because he curses non stop & acts all goofy.

foodcourtdruide
10-13-2007, 11:11 AM
I think you're off base on Carlin, and who the fuck is Dennis Hicks?

I think he means dennis leary, implying he's a ripoff of Hicks.

TheMojoPin
10-13-2007, 11:11 AM
i tried watching vicious circle. i really don't think he's funny at all. he just gets the crowd all riled up because he curses non stop & acts all goofy.

He's the white, frat boy version of all those shitty standup shows on BET.

DolaMight
10-13-2007, 11:56 AM
If it wasn't for rf.net and O&A I would never have heard of him. When a comedian blows up down there they blow up here as well.

I saw tourgasm twice on my pirated US dish and I honestly didn't know they were comedians until they performed at the end, and even then I wasn't sure if it was maybe just spoken word.

In the Tila Tequila thread someone posted that he got where he got today because of myspace. I never used myspace, how exactly did he accomplish this?

Bob Impact
10-13-2007, 12:19 PM
And i never really liked Carlin either.
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Too insanely brilliant and funny for you?

suggums
10-13-2007, 12:58 PM
http://s.yottamusic.com/i/bS9y.4ew2/375x375

paulisded
10-13-2007, 01:31 PM
not even the slightest chuckle?

Nope

Kevin
10-13-2007, 02:01 PM
Too insanely brilliant and funny for you?

Is he? Yea maybe in 1992... He has been doin the same crap for years now.. It was funny for a while.. Now he just comes out as forced.. Like he is trying to be edgy and controversial.

CaptClown
10-13-2007, 02:08 PM
Yea maybe in 1992... He has been doin the same crap for years now.. It was funny for a while.. Now he just comes out as forced.. Like he is trying to be edgy and controversial.

Carlin has been funny off and on for close to 40 years. I would pay money to see Carlin you couldn't pay me enough to go see Dane Cook.

drusilla
10-13-2007, 02:13 PM
He's the white, frat boy version of all those shitty standup shows on BET.

excellent comparison!

IamFogHat
10-13-2007, 02:17 PM
It seems to be the trend these days to tear Dane Cook a new one. From legit movie critics to the least of influential bloggers, he seems to be the 'it' boy to tear up... I just don't see it... here are some arguments against I heard-
...
All in all, the man is FUNNY. Should go back to his roots, take time off, write and come back big time. He won't, money way to big to, but hey...

I find it odd that someone who likes Perry Bible Fellowship finds Dane Cook funny:tongue:

scottinnj
10-13-2007, 02:34 PM
And even that, I think he ripped off. When I first listened to Cook, I thought his delivery, the way he pronounced words, cadence, etc. sounded an awful lot like Brian Regan.

Anyone else here this?

I didn't know either comic until I got my XM radio. So I don't know which guy got his start before the other one.

TheMojoPin
10-13-2007, 02:42 PM
As much as I love Carlin, I do also think he's been almost unbearable for almost a decade now. The first 3 decades of his career are right up there with the greatest of all time, but by the time the 2000's rolled around, his routines really slipped into "cranky old man" terriitory.

And whoever said they hate Leary as a standup but love him as an actor, right on, I'm right there with you. As a standup, his ripping off of Bill Hicks is so wholesale and shameless it's appalling...but damned if I don't love his TV shows.

TheMojoPin
10-13-2007, 02:45 PM
And I hear some people defend Cook by saying the criticism of guys like him and Mencia as hacks and thieves are just from people jealous of their success...but why guys as specific as them? Plenty of successful comedians are adored and respected by their peers with little or no ill will. If comedians are so quick to jump on their own, why don't the lower tier comedians rant and rave about ALL the comedians that make it big? Why do so many different comedians have such specific gripes about these guys?

Kevin
10-13-2007, 02:47 PM
As much as I love Carlin, I do also think he's been almost unbearable for almost a decade now. The first 3 decades of his career are right up there with the greatest of all time, but by the time the 2000's rolled around, his routines really slipped into "cranky old man" terriitory.

And whoever said they hate Leary as a standup but love him as an actor, right on, I'm right there with you. As a standup, his ripping off of Bill Hicks is so wholesale and shameless it's appalling...but damned if I don't love his TV shows.

You know who i am sir! Thats exactly how i feel about Carlin, and Leary.

IamFogHat
10-13-2007, 03:05 PM
I didn't know either comic until I got my XM radio. So I don't know which guy got his start before the other one.

Regan by about twelve years.

Marc with a c
10-13-2007, 03:28 PM
i saw suggums posted something on his music which needs no defending, here it is

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led37zep
10-13-2007, 11:02 PM
SNL just mocked those MLB Dane Cook Ads. Pretty funny only because I can't stand those fucking promos at all.

Reephdweller
10-14-2007, 05:41 AM
SNL just mocked those MLB Dane Cook Ads. Pretty funny only because I can't stand those fucking promos at all.


I've hated those ad's too. I agree they were pretty funny.

King Hippos Bandaid
10-14-2007, 05:47 AM
I FIGURE IF DANE COOK WAS ON THE BOARD, HE WOULD BE TYPING LIKE THIS IN CAPS

OH YEAH !!!!!!


:king:

fezident
10-14-2007, 07:04 PM
I love Carlins work. No gimmicks. Just material. That's rare.

I just heard him on The Adam Carolla Show. He kinda apologized for his last HBO special. He said that he was really sick. Not a cold though... like... SICK sick. His meds were not right and it affected his appearance, delivery, and overall confidence. I'm sure his new special (in March) will be quite good.


Jason Sudekis did a pretty good job with that Dane impression. The voice was good at times and all the mannerisms were perfect. It'd be cool if Jason went out onstage at MSG next month when Dane is performing there.

Furtherman
10-15-2007, 06:01 AM
I don't understand why any guy would think he is funny because we all know someone who is not a comedian who is lightyears ahead of funny than Dane. But I do understand why a woman could get lost in his quirky, good looking behavior can will pass as funny to them.

Patches
12-20-2007, 11:38 PM
Well, yeah.. i haven't been on in a while, and searched my name b/c i am a narcisstic prick (at least thats what the dude in the mirror says)

Dane cracks me up- I saw Good Luck Chuck since this thread, and while I do want to rape him with a hammer, I stand by my original analysis. Fuck you Mojo, you pseudo intellectual douche. I love because I kid. Or vice versa. Either way, don't ban me.

And Foghat- you are awesome for picking out PBF. Jusssaying.