Umm...here's an interesting theory that might be just a tad bit politically incorrect

[Judge Smails]

Someone get a hold of Al Sharpton. This makes Imus look like Martin Luther King.


DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html)


James D. Watson, 79, co-discoverer of the DNA (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html#) helix and winner of the 1962 Nobel Prize in medicine, told the Sunday Times of London that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really."

He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."

[torker]

Pure poppycock.

[jetdog]

Watson is not "in touch" with today's prevailling thoughts, be it on molecular biology, neuroscience, evolution, tactfullness...

[lleeder]

Who came up with this theory, Professor Anthony?

[TheMojoPin]

Wow, LordJezo is a LOT older than I would have guessed.

[PapaBear]

At least this guy always had nice things to say about blacks...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/cb/CaptureD13JimmySnyder.jpg

The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way -- because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner -- the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.

[Marc with a c]

must be the bluetooths

[sr71blackbird]

I have known an awful lot of really dumb white people. The majority of blacks I work with in my office are much smarter than most of the whites I know outside of work, so this theory is horse shit.
Anyone can point to certain neighborhoods and say this is a bad area and thats a bad area. I know poor black neighborhoods, and I know affluent black neighborhoods too. I see some poor ass whites that are scum bags, so what does it all mean? Is he saying that because a lot of Africa is behind us technologically? What is he basing it on? Since when can DNA predict intelligence? I have seen a doctor marry a lawyer and their kids can either be smart too or stupid. Intelligence is attitude and access to information and the ability to mix those two together in a artful way.
Ethnicity has nothing to do with it.
We are all the same race, I am surprised someone like him doesn't know that.

[IamPixie]

At least this guy always had nice things to say about blacks...

The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way -- because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner -- the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/cb/CaptureD13JimmySnyder.jpg

not all blacks who live in this country were "bred" to be slaves. what an ass.

[PapaBear]

Don't worry, Pixie. I'm pretty sure that ruined his career.

[IamPixie]

Someone get a hold of Al Sharpton. This makes Imus look like Martin Luther King.


DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html)

from foxnews.com. shocker.

[sr71blackbird]

Papa, she's referring to Jimmy the Greek's quote.

[PapaBear]

Papa, she's referring to Jimmy the Greek's quote.
Well, DUHHHHH.

[scottinnj]

from foxnews.com. shocker.

Saw it too, but linked from Drudge. What a stupid story.

[Yerdaddy]

from foxnews.com. shocker.

equally shocking that the Sunday Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch too.

[booster11373]

I love the fact that FOX makes a point of identifying him as a lifelong democrat and secular humanist

[A.J.]

Then where did all these stupid white people I work with come from?

[Death Metal Moe]

Tell me something I didn't know.

:devil2:

[RAAMONE]

He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."



was he studying earl?.....then that would make sense

[Marc with a c]

Then where did all these stupid white people I work with come from?

Wiggers.

[IamPixie]

Tell me something I didn't know.

:devil2:

I know you're joking but I dare you to say something positive about a black person for once. geeze.

[Death Metal Moe]

I know you're joking but I dare you to say something positive about a black person for once. geeze.

Oh come on, this is all good natured fun. If you think I take a lot of shots at blacks, go look at my comments on people from the Middle East.

[IamPixie]

come on.....one thing. I know you can do it!

[TheMojoPin]

Oh come on, this is all good natured fun. If you think I take a lot of shots at blacks, go look at my comments on people from the Middle East.

Like that makes either any less predictable or tiresome?

Yes, we get that you're joking...but I can't think of a time in any of the "racial" threads you post in where you don't go for the cheap joke.

[Midkiff]

Now hold on, everybody. I am the most bleeding-heart liberal equality-for-all one-world mofo that I know, but there actually is some scientific evidence of this. Well, let me clarify - mapping of the human genome has clearly shown that there are clear genetic differences between the races. Specifically for Africans, here's the deal - there are only a handful of Y-chromosome subclades (or haplogroups) for the entire human race outside of Africa. In Africa, the origin of all human beings, human DNA has mutated to have very different and unique subclades, and lots of them, which are only present in Africans. These genes have been slowly mutating over thousands of years, and the DNA of a pure African actually is very different than non-Africans. This is also true of mitochondrial (female) DNA.

It is a slight but distinct difference, sort of like the difference between a standard chimpanzee and a bonobo chimpanzee. (no joke intended)

Now, when intelligence tests are compared between those of the African subclades with the non-African, there is in general (as a whole) a difference in intelligence. Of course, as we all know, there are exceptions to every norm. So, while old and misguided, there is some truth to what the guy said.

[IamPixie]

Now hold on, everybody. I am the most bleeding-heart liberal equality-for-all one-world mofo that I know, but there actually is some scientific evidence of this. Well, let me clarify - mapping of the human genome has clearly shown that there are clear genetic differences between the races. Specifically for Africans, here's the deal - there are only a handful of Y-chromosome subclades (or haplogroups) for the entire human race outside of Africa. In Africa, the origin of all human beings, human DNA has mutated to have very different and unique subclades, and lots of them, which are only present in Africans. These genes have been slowly mutating over thousands of years, and the DNA of a pure African actually is very different than non-Africans. This is also true of mitochondrial (female) DNA.

It is a slight but distinct difference, sort of like the difference between a standard chimpanzee and a bonobo chimpanzee. (no joke intended)

Now, when intelligence tests are compared between those of the African subclades with the non-African, there is in general (as a whole) a difference in intelligence. Of course, as we all know, there are exceptions to every norm. So, while old and misguided, there is some truth to what the guy said.

shut up.

[TheMojoPin]

Now hold on, everybody. I am the most bleeding-heart liberal equality-for-all one-world mofo that I know, but there actually is some scientific evidence of this. Well, let me clarify - mapping of the human genome has clearly shown that there are clear genetic differences between the races. Specifically for Africans, here's the deal - there are only a handful of Y-chromosome subclades (or haplogroups) for the entire human race outside of Africa. In Africa, the origin of all human beings, human DNA has mutated to have very different and unique subclades, and lots of them, which are only present in Africans. These genes have been slowly mutating over thousands of years, and the DNA of a pure African actually is very different than non-Africans. This is also true of mitochondrial (female) DNA.

It is a slight but distinct difference, sort of like the difference between a standard chimpanzee and a bonobo chimpanzee. (no joke intended)

Now, when intelligence tests are compared between those of the African subclades with the non-African, there is in general (as a whole) a difference in intelligence. Of course, as we all know, there are exceptions to every norm. So, while old and misguided, there is some truth to what the guy said.

Sources?

[Midkiff]

Sources?

There are many, but a good one that is good reading and not too difficult for the lay person is one I've mentioned here before:

http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/before_the_dawn.jpg

And seriously, I mean no joke or offense to anybody. I love all people. Don't be mad, Pixie.

[Death Metal Moe]

Like that makes either any less predictable or tiresome?

Yes, we get that you're joking...but I can't think of a time in any of the "racial" threads you post in where you don't go for the cheap joke.

As long as I laugh, I acheived my goal.

Listen, I'm not going to sit here and defend my position on race. I've never had a problem with black people and never will. This is a messageboard for a radio show that includes a lot of racial humor in a fun way.

For what it's worth, I think this study is fucking bullshit and I think every race of people has an equal chance of having smart and stupid people. For every piece of evidence this guy has there's probably another study that disproves him. I'd really like some more background on this guy and the financial backers for his study. It's funny how most times the scientist gets the findings his financial backers we looking for.

I don't even like to talk about "Black people" because just saying "They're just like you and me" puts them in a very odd light. People are people.

[Marc with a c]

http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/before_the_dawn.jpg



Does it have cat pictures?

[IamPixie]

For what it's worth, I think this study is fucking bullshit and I think every race of people has an equal chance of having smart and stupid people. For every piece of evidence this guy has there's probably another study that disproves him. I'd really like some more background on this guy and the financial backers for his study. It's funny how most times the scientist gets the findings his financial backers we looking for.

I don't even like to talk about "Black people" because just saying "They're just like you and me" puts them in a very odd light. People are people.

I accept your apology.:tongue:

[Death Metal Moe]

Does it have cat pictures?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/njdmmoe/sciencekitty.jpg

[cupcakelove]

I feel another banning coming out of this thread.

[Midkiff]

I've never had a problem with black people and never will. I think every race of people has an equal chance of having smart and stupid people. I don't even like to talk about "Black people" because just saying "They're just like you and me" puts them in a very odd light. People are people.

I agree completely.

[sr71blackbird]

I hate to have to use this analogy, but it is right. I look at humans the way that I look at dogs. Hear me out..
All dogs belong to the same species. All humans belong to the same species.
As far as dog breeds are concerned, they are equivelant to ethnic types in people.
There are bad dogs and good dogs. Bad people and good people.
Not all bad dogs by breed is condemed as a whole. ALL pit bulls are not bad, but some are and those bad ones got some bad press and the breed was condemed in the minds of the public.. All rottweilers are not bad either. Bull dogs used to a bad rep too, but I am sure Bulldogscakes can tell you how nice his are.
Do all dogs by breed have the same inteligence? Isn't it learned in dogs and how they are raised and trained and rewarded? It is the same exact thing in people! We all have the same potential for intellect.

[Furtherman]

I know you're joking but I dare you to say something positive about a black person for once. geeze.

come on.....one thing. I know you can do it!

I can think of two positive things!!!

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/894679/8274207/280299744.jpg

[donnie_darko]

ugh.
i'm glad i'm from a "blended" family.
i can laugh at blacks and whites equally.
and fear them all the same.

you are all maniacs, respect my property line!

[DolaMight]

Now hold on, everybody. I am the most bleeding-heart liberal equality-for-all one-world mofo that I know, but there actually is some scientific evidence of this. Well, let me clarify - mapping of the human genome has clearly shown that there are clear genetic differences between the races. Specifically for Africans, here's the deal - there are only a handful of Y-chromosome subclades (or haplogroups) for the entire human race outside of Africa. In Africa, the origin of all human beings, human DNA has mutated to have very different and unique subclades, and lots of them, which are only present in Africans. These genes have been slowly mutating over thousands of years, and the DNA of a pure African actually is very different than non-Africans. This is also true of mitochondrial (female) DNA.

It is a slight but distinct difference, sort of like the difference between a standard chimpanzee and a bonobo chimpanzee. (no joke intended)

Now, when intelligence tests are compared between those of the African subclades with the non-African, there is in general (as a whole) a difference in intelligence. Of course, as we all know, there are exceptions to every norm. So, while old and misguided, there is some truth to what the guy said.

Is this also true of Jews and Homosexuals?

There are many, but a good one that is good reading and not too difficult for the lay person is one I've mentioned here before:

http://www.pganuszko.freeuk.com/dissertation/kampf.jpg

And seriously, I mean no joke or offense to anybody. I love all people. Don't be mad, Pixie.

Edit: Sorry I later saw that you gave sources.

[Death Metal Moe]

I can think of two positive things!!!

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/894679/8274207/280299744.jpg

http://www.gotorenotahoe.com/news/files/2004/03/04/2131.jpg

"AAAAAAAAAHA! AAAAAAAAAAHA! AAAAAAAAAAAA NICE-AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

[Midkiff]

I hate to have to use this analogy, but it is right. I look at humans the way that I look at dogs. Hear me out..
All dogs belong to the same species. All humans belong to the same species.
As far as dog breeds are concerned, they are equivelant to ethnic types in people.
There are bad dogs and good dogs. Bad people and good people.
Not all bad dogs by breed is condemed as a whole. ALL pit bulls are not bad, but some are and those bad ones got some bad press and the breed was condemed in the minds of the public.. All rottweilers are not bad either. Bull dogs used to a bad rep too, but I am sure Bulldogscakes can tell you how nice his are.
Do all dogs by breed have the same inteligence? Isn't it learned in dogs and how they are raised and trained and rewarded? It is the same exact thing in people! We all have the same potential for intellect.

That is actually quite astute.

[Bob Impact]

There are many, but a good one that is good reading and not too difficult for the lay person is one I've mentioned here before:

http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/before_the_dawn.jpg

And seriously, I mean no joke or offense to anybody. I love all people. Don't be mad, Pixie.

The source is Paige isnt it?

[lleeder]

The source is Paige isnt it?

:lol::clap:

[Midkiff]

come up with a new joke you fuckin unoriginal bastard

[Tenbatsuzen]

come up with a new joke you fuckin unoriginal bastard

Pot, Kettle, African-American. Jesus Christ, do you hear the booing every time you hit the reply button?

[Judge Smails]

Apologiiiiiiiiiize, Apologiiiiiiiiiize (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2193899,00.html)

The DNA pioneer James Watson today apologised "unreservedly" for his apparent claim that black people are less intelligent than whites.

"I am mortified about what has happened," he told a group of scientists and journalists at the launch of his new book, Avoid Boring People, at the Royal Society in London.

"I can certainly understand why people, reading those words, have reacted in the ways they have."

"To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologise unreservedly.

"That is not what I meant. More importantly from my point of view, there is no scientific basis for such a belief."

[sr71blackbird]

Good! Though I heard he does feel this way from other things he has written and said.

[Dougie Brootal]

not for nothin, and i love the racial cheap shots too, but i was in best buy the other day buying a computer for my office and the black lady "helping" me was the dumbest piece of shit i had ever met. after about a half hour of arguing with her, i asked to see her supervisor, who was a black man, and in 5 minutes my problem was solved. he was very nice and he was very intelligent, and he knew what the fuck he was talkin about with computers which makes him far more intelligent than me to begin with.

[CountryBob]

Stupid is as stupid does.

I have eaten brains - now I must be smarter!

[sr71blackbird]

It shouldn't even come up as a doubt. Polish people as a group got a bad rep too, but some of the smartest people I met are Polish. Not all Jews are good with money. Not all Italians are in the mob. I think it is a generalization people make based on being poorly brought up and having very limited exposure to other ethnic types of people. Being from NY or other areas where there is a large mixture of ethnic groups certainly helps in seeing the light.
We can all see humor in ethnic jokes, but it is quite another thing to really believe it.

[Zorro]

not for nothin, and i love the racial cheap shots too, but i was in best buy the other day buying a computer for my office and the black lady "helping" me was the dumbest piece of shit i had ever met. after about a half hour of arguing with her, i asked to see her supervisor, who was a black man, and in 5 minutes my problem was solved. he was very nice and he was very intelligent, and he knew what the fuck he was talkin about with computers which makes him far more intelligent than me to begin with.

You're in Best Buy getting a computer and you call other people dumb?

[Dougie Brootal]

You're in Best Buy getting a computer and you call other people dumb?

what do you mean? i know im dumb, i posted naked pics of my chick on this board!! where should i go for a computer?

[Zorro]

The internet no tax, no shipping, customization and no annoying people to deal with

[Dougie Brootal]

The internet no tax, no shipping, customization and no annoying people to deal with

o yeah i know, but i needed to ask questions cuz i didnt know what i needed and i was trying to get them to give me a free office 2007 cuz they sold me a shit computer last time and i put my last copy of office on it and it crashed and ....its a long fuckin story ill have the black guy from best buy call ya!

[foodcourtdruide]

what do you mean? i know im dumb, i posted naked pics of my chick on this board!! where should i go for a computer?

Are you looking for a desktop or notebook? Do you know what kind of specs you're looking for, or are you just looking for something that will generally work? What I'd suggest is you go to 3 or 4 of those places (Comp USA, Office Depot, Best Buy, Circuit City), find the desktop/notebook you like and compare prices. Don't buy the extended warranty, it will be cheaper to just get it fixed if it somehow breaks and if it breaks after 2 years you should just buy a new pc anyway. And when you do buy it, put a good anti-virus and firewall on there.

[Dougie Brootal]

Are you looking for a desktop or notebook? Do you know what kind of specs you're looking for, or are you just looking for something that will generally work? What I'd suggest is you go to 3 or 4 of those places (Comp USA, Office Depot, Best Buy, Circuit City), find the desktop/notebook you like and compare prices. Don't buy the extended warranty, it will be cheaper to just get it fixed if it somehow breaks and if it breaks after 2 years you should just buy a new pc anyway. And when you do buy it, put a good anti-virus and firewall on there.

i got it. its ok, but thanks for the ideas for next time. what was this thread about again?

o yeah, COCKS!

[Midkiff]

Pot, Kettle, African-American. Jesus Christ, do you hear the booing every time you hit the reply button?

No.

But I do cringe every time I post, wondering what catty school-girl cunt thing you're going to say to me for daring to converse.

[TheMojoPin]

No.

But I do cringe every time I post, wondering what catty school-girl cunt thing you're going to say to me for daring to converse.

I'm impressed that you somehow manage to make all of your posts about vaginas, be it the classy "cunt" here or your usual "FUCK BUSH" or any of the women with whom you would "hit that." Your dedication is most impressive.

[Yerdaddy]

I'm impressed that you somehow manage to make all of your posts about vaginas, be it the classy "cunt" here or your usual "FUCK BUSH" or any of the women with whom you would "hit that." Your dedication is most impressive.

Twat did you say? I cunt hear you.

[Midkiff]

I'm impressed that you somehow manage to make all of your posts about vaginas, be it the classy "cunt" here or your usual "FUCK BUSH" or any of the women with whom you would "hit that." Your dedication is most impressive.

Why thank you, kind sir. Intended or not, I will take that as a compliment. I am very dedicated to the cause of only thinking about vagina, plowing women, and occasionally pausing to hurl insults at the hayseed president. It's good to know I am successful! :lol:

Twat did you say? I cunt hear you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[sailor]

Twat did you say? I cunt hear you.

you must have an ear infucktion.

[Midkiff]

come up with a new joke you fuckin unoriginal bastard

holy shit, I got a mod quote! Yes!!!!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm impressed that you somehow manage to make all of your posts about vaginas, be it the classy "cunt" here or your usual "FUCK BUSH" or any of the women with whom you would "hit that." Your dedication is most impressive.

QFT. It's amazing what you see when you hit the "See Last Posts of User" button. It's a melange of obvious observations, smileys, LOLs, "cunts" and "fuck".

[Midkiff]

QFT. It's amazing what you see when you hit the "See Last Posts of User" button. It's a melange of obvious observations, smileys, LOLs, "cunts" and "fuck".

Sweet success!






oh wait, I forgot to say "fuck"


fuck!

[sailor]

interesting 3-part article (http://www.slate.com/id/2178122/entry/2178123/) from william saletan on the issue.

[scottinnj]

I love the fact that FOX makes a point of identifying him as a lifelong democrat and secular humanist



Well, it is the secularists who are responsible for most of the murders in the 20th century, so it isn't really a stretch of the imagination now isn't it?

[scottinnj]

Why thank you, kind sir. Intended or not, I will take that as a compliment. I am very dedicated to the cause of only thinking about vagina, plowing women, and occasionally pausing to hurl insults at the hayseed president. It's good to know I am successful! :lol:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



I love you MidKiff! ROCK ON!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[scottinnj]

what do you mean? i know im dumb, i posted naked pics of my chick on this board!! where should i go for a computer?


Where are the naked Pics? Are they in the thread about your three way? I gotta see those tits!

[scottinnj]

There are many, but a good one that is good reading and not too difficult for the lay person is one I've mentioned here before:

http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/before_the_dawn.jpg

And seriously, I mean no joke or offense to anybody. I love all people. Don't be mad, Pixie.

I don't know dude. Any book with a "Lion King" cover art pic on it has to be boooooring!





































Joke! It's a joke!!!!!

[Yerdaddy]

Well, it is the secularists who are responsible for most of the murders in the 20th century, so it isn't really a stretch of the imagination now isn't it?

What's a secularist?

[Crispy123]

Well, it is the secularists who are responsible for most of the murders in the 20th century, so it isn't really a stretch of the imagination now isn't it?

What's a secularist?

Noun

* S: (n) secularist (an advocate of secularism; someone who believes that religion should be excluded from government and education) (http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=secularist)

The definition from the Princeton Word Net. Basically its an American, except for George Bush, Pat Robertson, and the Falwell types.

I guess if your talking about murders in North America chances are it was a secularist that did it.

[earthbrown]

If you believe in EVOLUTION, it is only logical that this could be true.

It is true that people of african descent have a modified cardio vascular system that allows for the taking in of oxygen to the blood stream better. It is also true that africans have a much higher muscle mass than people of European descent. This is why they excel at sports...

It is not a racist idea, our out of control PC mentality tells us that EVERYONE is EQUAL and is born with the same potential, and that is pure BS.

It is only a theory, there was no need for people in the science community to slam Dr. Watson.

K

[TheMojoPin]

If you believe in EVOLUTION, it is only logical that this could be true.

It is true that people of african descent have a modified cardio vascular system that allows for the taking in of oxygen to the blood stream better. It is also true that africans have a much higher muscle mass than people of European descent. This is why they excel at sports...

It is not a racist idea, our out of control PC mentality tells us that EVERYONE is EQUAL and is born with the same potential, and that is pure BS.

It is only a theory, there was no need for people in the science community to slam Dr. Watson.

K

Except he's trying to claim that their are inherrent differences in intelligence across the spectrum between the races, not physical differences like you're talking about. The physical stuff, for the most part, is widely accepted and is common sense due to the diferences in climate/environment/etc. based on where the world's different races developed.

[sailor]

Except he's trying to claim that their are inherrent differences in intelligence across the spectrum between the races, not physical differences like you're talking about. The physical stuff, for the most part, is widely accepted and is common sense due to the diferences in climate/environment/etc. based on where the world's different races developed.

and the brain is not a physical thing?

[IamPixie]

and the brain is not a physical thing?

i knew you hated me, satchel!:glurps:

[sailor]

i knew you hated me, satchel!:glurps:

i hate no one. or, i hate everyone, more accurately, but that's only because they all started it! :(

[TheMojoPin]

and the brain is not a physical thing?

Intelligence itself is not. The Slate article brings up the issue of actual brain size in regards to intelligence, but Watson apparently does not.

I just think it's exceedingly difficult to judge intelligence as broadly as this since actual intelligence tests are going to be influenced greatly by the social and economic environment of where the person lives and was riased in the world, or even in different parts of the same country. No, I don't agree with the idea that "everyone is born equal" either, since that's clearly not true even on a person to person basis, but these broad strokes aren't much more accurate or necessarily reflective of individual realities. And the main issue with Watson's ideas is him basically saying that "Africa has little hope because Africans are dumb," which is radically different than what the Slate article is saying.

The best part of the Slate article is it's overall message of encouraging more interracial bangin', because it's ultimately the damn solution for everything. FUCK ON!

[sailor]

Intelligence itself is not. The Slate article brings up the issue of actual brain size in regards to intelligence, but Watson apparently does not.

I just think it's exceedingly difficult to judge intelligence as broadly as this since actual intelligence tests are going to be influenced greatly by the social and economic environment of where the person lives and was riased in the world, or even in different parts of the same country. No, I don't agree with the idea that "everyone is born equal" either, since that's clearly not true even on a person to person basis, but these broad strokes aren't much more accurate or necessarily reflective of individual realities. And the main issue with Watson's ideas is him basically saying that "Africa has no hope because Africans are dumb," which is radically different than what the Slate article is saying.

i never read what he said, but if that's it, it's pretty silly of him. i can see why he has since retracted.

one of the more interesting points in the slate article was how asians (one specific study was koreans i think the other was broader, but i'm too lazy to go back) fared better than national averages when adopted by other races.

[earthbrown]

how come africa has no buildings, unless you count shanties and buildings whites, arabs, and asians built??


The only continent that has given us less is Antarctica....africa is a shithole and the people who live there are retarded, IMHO.


K

[earthbrown]

Except he's trying to claim that their are inherrent differences in intelligence across the spectrum between the races, not physical differences like you're talking about. The physical stuff, for the most part, is widely accepted and is common sense due to the diferences in climate/environment/etc. based on where the world's different races developed.

Brain is a physical and evolving item of the body, africans did not stimulate their minds in thousands of years, meanwhile, europeans, asians, and egyptions(sp) stimulated and used their brains to make medical, technological, and social advances...intellectual intelligence was a form of a living and in such they most likely reproduced more to pass on the smart traits.

[HBox]

how come africa has no buildings, unless you count shanties and buildings whites, arabs, and asians built??


The only continent that has given us less is Antarctica....africa is a shithole and the people who live there are retarded, IMHO.


K

I nominate this for most enlightened post of the day.

[torker]

I nominate this for most enlightened post of the year

[Chigworthy]

I nominate this for most enwhitened post of the day.

I agree.

[earthbrown]

I nominate this for most enlightened post of the day.

glad I could be so enlightening, should have joined rf.net sooner....



K

[jetdog]

Brain is a physical and evolving item of the body, africans did not stimulate their minds in thousands of years, meanwhile, europeans, asians, and egyptions(sp) stimulated and used their brains to make medical, technological, and social advances...intellectual intelligence was a form of a living and in such they most likely reproduced more to pass on the smart traits.

nevermind.

[HBox]

I don't know, I think this certainly is in the running...

No, the fact that he realized he misspelled Egyptians is a sign, however extremely slight, of some sort of intelligence.

[Chigworthy]

how come colonial america had no buildings, unless you count shanties and buildings african slaves built??


K

Fixed.

[jetdog]

No, the fact that he realized he misspelled Egyptians is a sign, however extremely slight, of some sort of intelligence.

wow, you're fast.

[jetdog]

Mojo pretty much hit it on the head as far as I am concerned.
Intelligence is contextual, tests designed for white, suburbyites are not in any way applicable to those who grew up in the styx, whether it is Africa, Australia, or southern Georgia.

[earthbrown]

Fixed.

Slaves did not build shit, they were not skilled enough to build the mansions that the masters lived in in the south.

In fact most of americas buildings 99% were built by European Immigrants.

Now did slaves provide the labor to help this country push forward? YES


Was slavery a bad thing? YES

But does the above, take away from the fact that in the age of firearms, africans still chuck sticks at amimals.


K

[earthbrown]

Mojo pretty much hit it on the head as far as I am concerned.
Intelligence is contextual, tests designed for white, suburbyites are not in any way applicable to those who grew up in the styx, whether it is Africa, Australia, or southern Georgia.

How do you explain, an ENTIRE continent of people has failed to contribute to society????

[Chigworthy]

But does the above, take away from the fact that in the age of firearms, africans still chuck sticks at amimals.


K

http://www.pjstar.com/php/images/uploads/spear_hunting_thumb.jpg

[HBox]

Was slavery a bad thing? YES

I know you don't believe that.

[IamPixie]

Brain is a physical and evolving item of the body, africans did not stimulate their minds in thousands of years, meanwhile, europeans, asians, and egyptions(sp) stimulated and used their brains to make medical, technological, and social advances...intellectual intelligence was a form of a living and in such they most likely reproduced more to pass on the smart traits.

http://www.joinafrica.com/Country_Rankings/map_of_africa.gif

You see that little country in green in the upper right hand corner of Africa, sweetheart?

[furie]

must be the bluetooths

???

[HBox]

http://www.pjstar.com/php/images/uploads/spear_hunting_thumb.jpg

And the irony of all ironies: that guy's name is Chuck Sticks.

[IamPixie]

Brain is a physical and evolving item of the body, africans did not stimulate their minds in thousands of years, meanwhile, europeans, asians, and egyptions(sp) stimulated and used their brains to make medical, technological, and social advances...intellectual intelligence was a form of a living and in such they most likely reproduced more to pass on the smart traits.

I know I quoted this before but it's hysterical:lol:
This might be the hardest anyone has ever tried on this board to appear knowledgeable.

[jetdog]

How do you explain, an ENTIRE continent of people has failed to contribute to society????

How do you explain that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about?

Ask any European you know about the histroy of Africa and Europe then sit back and relax, try to block out the misconceptions and prejudices, try to eh hem...scuse me, "think outside the box..."

[Chigworthy]

I know I quoted this before but it's hysterical:lol:
This might be the hardest anyone has ever tried on this board to appear knowledgeable.

It sounds like ESD.

[jetdog]

I know I quoted this before but it's hysterical:lol:
This might be the hardest anyone has ever tried on this board to appear knowledgeable.

It'll be a fine line between remaining logical and talking some sense into this hayseed.

[Russel P]

Yeah so, I'm too new to opine, but Earthborn is crackin' me up over here! I don't see how he's saying anything as egregious as Ron says all the time (and it ain't like he's being serious).
I know every tailback and cb in the NFL is black, percentage of the NBA is mighty high for a country of 13% blacks, but I looked up some Olympic stats to see if i could find any numbers. All of the thirty two finalists in the last four Olympic men's 100-meter races are of West African descent. The probability of such an outcome by chance is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 percent. (George Mason University study, 2001)
It's pretty certain that people in different racial subsets have different traits. Pygmies tend to be short, members of the Dinka tribe very tall, Eskimos have a tolerance for cold, Asians have straight black hair... why is it so outrageous to suggest that the importance of puzzle-solving skills of members of different societies who lived to pass on their genes might differ? It doesn't suggest there are no brilliant black people or athletic Asians. I think we're just uptight as shit about race because of past inequalities in this country, and if decent people don't discuss this subject, we concede the turf to black and white racists. <steps off soapbox>

[sailor]

I know I quoted this before but it's hysterical:lol:
This might be the hardest anyone has ever tried on this board to appear knowledgeable.

i vote board character. i refuse to believe it's a serious post.

[Rthentic]

I think that this is the same cocksucker that says that if a gay baby/fetus could be detected in those early stages via DNA, then they should be aborted.
I can see it now.....
He dies, Meets God, Gets ReIncarnated As Bottom that LOVES!!!!! It But HAtes HimSelf afterwards....Time & Time & Time.....& Time Again.

[earthbrown]

http://www.joinafrica.com/Country_Rankings/map_of_africa.gif

You see that little country in green in the upper right hand corner of Africa, sweetheart?


Egyptians, are middle eastern/arab....not African by blood, they are only African by geographical location.

Hell, I am willing to compromise, give africa egypt....still 95% of africa, NOT contributing....

They ended apartheid in South Africa, and the country has deteriorated.


White europeans have invented 99% of EVERYTHING you use on a daily basis, why? Answer that.


K

[earthbrown]

Yeah so, I'm too new to opine, but Earthborn is crackin' me up over here! I don't see how he's saying anything as egregious as Ron says all the time (and it ain't like he's being serious).
I know every tailback and cb in the NFL is black, percentage of the NBA is mighty high for a country of 13% blacks, but I looked up some Olympic stats to see if i could find any numbers. All of the thirty two finalists in the last four Olympic men's 100-meter races are of West African descent. The probability of such an outcome by chance is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 percent. (George Mason University study, 2001)
It's pretty certain that people in different racial subsets have different traits. Pygmies tend to be short, members of the Dinka tribe very tall, Eskimos have a tolerance for cold, Asians have straight black hair... why is it so outrageous to suggest that the importance of puzzle-solving skills of members of different societies who lived to pass on their genes might differ? It doesn't suggest there are no brilliant black people or athletic Asians. I think we're just uptight as shit about race because of past inequalities in this country, and if decent people don't discuss this subject, we concede the turf to black and white racists. <steps off soapbox>


Preach it, daddy-o

[jetdog]

White europeans have invented 99% of EVERYTHING you use on a daily basis, why? Answer that.


K

First prove that white europeans invented 99% of everything we use on a daily basis.

And to whoever posted that rambling ass piece of nonsense earlier defending this moron, nobody is censoring this guy/girl, we're just ridiculling him/her for standing their ground when its blatantly ignorant.

[IamPixie]

White europeans have invented 99% of EVERYTHING you use on a daily basis, why? Answer that.


K

I need to see your sources. Unless of course you pulled that percentage out of your ass. Isn't there a white supremacy board out there you should be posting on about now?

[Chigworthy]

....africa is a shithole and the people who live there are retarded, IMHO.


K

Not all of them are retarded:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/tomtomtom/hillbilly.jpg

[DarkHippie]

Genetics are overrated

Human development is affected just as much if not more by what happens outside of the blueprints. Quality of nutirition, upbringing, environment, etc affects you physically as well as intellectually (an example of this is the dramatic increase in height people have had in the past 100 years, far too quick for evolution).

Intellect is so complex, even the definition of intellect is under debate. do you include creativity? social aptitude? Occupational cooridnation? Do you weight certain skills over others, and how much?

If intellect is so complex, and there are so many variables to inteelect development, how can you judge one race smarter than another?

[DarkHippie]

Egyptians, are middle eastern/arab....not African by blood, they are only African by geographical location.

Hell, I am willing to compromise, give africa egypt....still 95% of africa, NOT contributing....

They ended apartheid in South Africa, and the country has deteriorated.


White europeans have invented 99% of EVERYTHING you use on a daily basis, why? Answer that.


K

The egyptian empire was founded by people from the South, they migrated following the Nile. They were orignially much darker. The egyptians of today are arab, decendents of the arab invasions of 700-1100

[earthbrown]

First prove that white europeans invented 99% of everything we use on a daily basis.

And to whoever posted that rambling ass piece of nonsense earlier defending this moron, nobody is censoring this guy/girl, we're just ridiculling him/her for standing their ground when its blatantly ignorant.

car
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/auto.html

cell phone
http://inventors.about.com/cs/inventorsalphabet/a/martin_cooper.htm

Computer
http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/scrapbook/computer.html

Internet
http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/gorethumbsup.jpg

Radio
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_whoradio.html

TV
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae408.cfm

Light Bulb
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/edison/lightbulb.shtml

AC current
http://www.croatians.com/radio.htm

I dont have much time to look for more.


K

[TheMojoPin]

I'm 99% sure that this is hysterical. And you din't even come close to any kind of "99%," and I guess they mean that you actually think Eastern Europeans are the smartest people on Earth, right? Ah, and of course, the basic invention of an item or procedure is the "smartest" aspect of its existence...not the continual improvements and evolution due to countless other people along the way. See how this is actually much more complicated?

I think it's very telling that this guy is basically freaking out and responding as if people are trying to prove that other races are "smarter" than whites....and nobody has actually done that.

The overall point is that gauging "intelligence" as some kind of broad, general distinction in terms of entire races is a controversial idea due to it being incredibly difficult to find some kind of conclusive way of testing this that applies to all possibe social situations.

[underdog]

You see that little country in green in the upper right hand corner of Africa, sweetheart?

Egypt isn't in Africa, no matter what your PC maps tell you.

And South Africa and Morocco aren't either.

[earthbrown]

i simply think it is a valid theory and should be explored. If it is a scientific givin that african people are more muscular than europeans, EVEN when born and raised in the same environment, why could it not be true on a mental ability issue?

K

[IamPixie]

You wanna try and have a civil and logical conversation after you said the following things?
I'm outta here.



how come africa has no buildings, unless you count shanties and buildings whites, arabs, and asians built??





The only continent that has given us less is Antarctica....africa is a shithole and the people who live there are retarded, IMHO.


K

Brain is a physical and evolving item of the body, africans did not stimulate their minds in thousands of years, meanwhile, europeans, asians, and egyptions(sp) stimulated and used their brains to make medical, technological, and social advances...intellectual intelligence was a form of a living and in such they most likely reproduced more to pass on the smart traits.

Slaves did not build shit, they were not skilled enough to build the mansions that the masters lived in in the south.

In fact most of americas buildings 99% were built by European Immigrants.

Now did slaves provide the labor to help this country push forward? YES


Was slavery a bad thing? YES

But does the above, take away from the fact that in the age of firearms, africans still chuck sticks at amimals.


K

How do you explain, an ENTIRE continent of people has failed to contribute to society????

[Devo37]

Here's an interesting article from a black Nigerian who agrees with Watson... (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/10/i_agree_with_dr.php)

[HBox]

Earthbrown didn't invent 100% of things I use on an everyday basis, therefore he is retarded.

[HBox]

Here's an interesting article from a black Nigerian who agrees with Watson... (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/10/i_agree_with_dr.php)


Why are we becoming like the Jews who see every accusation as a manifestation of anti-Semitism?

Ahhhhh, that was a great note to start the article off on.

[keithy_19]

All I know is I cheated off of an asian kid in math,

A wasp in history,

a pothead in english,

and I was always on the black kids team in gym.





























:unsure:

[TheMojoPin]

Here's an interesting article from a black Nigerian who agrees with Watson... (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/10/i_agree_with_dr.php)

Super classy awesome fun time! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine))

American Renaissance (AR or AmRen) is a monthly racialist magazine published by the New Century Foundation.[1] The magazine's founder Jared Taylor has been called a white separatist[2] and Holocaust denier.[3]

The magazine and foundation were founded by Jared Taylor, and the first issue was published in November 1990. A main theme of the magazine is a claim that non-white minorities pose a demographic threat to the United States and other European-derived nations. The magazine argues that the United States' major social problems are due to racial diversity and a weakening of the country's white racial heritage by increased non-white immigration. In the August 1997 edition, there was a poll of readers on who had done the most for the white race, and Adolf Hitler got the most votes.[4]

The magazine's arguments are usually explained using social science and genetics, but some issues of AR have featured theological arguments. One argument has been that interracial and inter-cultural marriage is racial suicide and an unequal yoking, and that such unions "go against the very community which marriage is designed to establish."[5] The magazine and foundation promote the view that differences in educational outcomes and per capita incomes between racial populations can be attributed to differences in intelligence between races. Such views have led to accusations of racism and white supremacy.

American Renaissance and the New Century Foundation have had links with far right, neo-fascist and racist organizations and individuals such as: the Council of Conservative Citizens, the Pioneer Fund, the British National Party, Don Black and David Duke.[6][7] The organization has held bi-annual conferences that have attracted neo-Nazis, white nationalists, white separatists, Ku Klux Klan members, Holocaust deniers and eugenicists (as well as numerous protestors).[8] Taylor has written that the magazine is neutral on the matter of Jews, and welcomes them as participants.[9] Contributors to the magazine and conferences have included Stephen Webster, Michael Levin, Nick Griffin, Bruno Gollnisch, J. Philippe Rushton, Ian Jobling, Glenn Spencer, Lawrence Auster, Richard Lynn Sam Dickson and Samuel Francis.

Critics claim that the magazine uses pseudoscience to give the impression that it provides well-researched, carefully thought-out assessments of differences between races. The critics say contributors to the magazine sometimes cite facts and statistics derived from reputable sources, but taken out of context. They say the magazine's writers extrapolate or exaggerate conclusions that the data does not bear out, or that they emphasize data that supports their own positions while downplaying or simply ignoring contrary evidence.

Yes, I realize that the article that you linked to that they host wasn't actually written for their site. Go to their article archives and front page ad you'll see them doing exactly what I bolded in the very last paragraph. They cherry pick articles tha back up their ideas of white supremecy and make non-white races, especially blacks, look as bad as possible. Besides, your "interesting" link is an op-ed piece...an editorial.

Here's a detailed breakdown of AR from the Anti-Defamation League. (http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/amren.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=amren)

In addition to its text version, AR has a Web site which links to daily news items with terse, suggestive headlines that reflect the publication's racist sensibility.

Don't be taken in by guys like this...that's the danger of people like William Pierce and David Duke. I find them much scarier than the "usual" white supremecists that run around screaming slurs and insults and threats and shaving their heads and forming gangs and whatnot. These guys dress this garbge up with a sheen of false respectability that takes in far too many people.

It is usually easy to dismiss a racist message when it is crude or sensationalistic, but less so if it takes the guise of a well-researched, carefully thought out assessment of differences between races. The type of genteel racism that American Renaissance promotes seems on the surface almost reasonable; its errors and duplicity may become clear only with closer reading. Unfortunately, many people do not take the time to do so or are content to let scientific-sounding language and misrepresentation reinforce their own distorted world views. Both for believers and for those open to persuasion, AR provides a veneer of respectability sorely lacking in most precincts of white supremacy.

[Yerdaddy]

The number of inventors of things used by our society is not a measure of the intelligence of other societies.

I'm willing to bet one thing no African ever invented was an IQ test used to show their genetic inferiority.

Nobody who has been to Africa would say they've never built a building unless that person was a racist douchebag.

People who can't spell or use the grammar of their native language but who accuse whole societies of intellectual inferiority is either a moron or a racist douchebag, but probably both.

A serious discussion of a scientific issue takes into consideration of culture, historical interaction with other cultures, the relevancy of the means of measuring intelligence, the possible biases of the tests and/or the test-givers, and other factors involved in the subject. I wouldn't mind discussing sailor's source, but unless someone gets rid of the racist trolls what would be the point?

[TheMojoPin]

Nevermind that inventions and discoveries are hinged on the resources available to the person doing the inventing and discovering. But sure, let's just pretend we live in some complete fantasy world where everyone has equal means and opportunity to invent or discover something at any given time. Makes total sense.

[Russel P]

I just did a Google search for African inventions. Every one of them except the wheel was a south African white guy. And I'd bet dollars to donuts that they didn't figure out how to actually roll the wheel. They probably just flipped them end over end until white people came along.


I keed, I keed!

[sailor]

this is why we can't have anything nice around here.

[Russel P]

Jesus, I was just kidding. I thought that would be painfully obvious by the absurdity of the post. And I thought that would never offend anyone who appreciates Mr. Bennington. If I'm off in my assessment, I apologize if I offended.

[Chigworthy]

Jesus, I was just kidding. I thought that would be painfully obvious by the absurdity of the post. And I thought that would never offend anyone who appreciates Mr. Bennington. If I'm off in my assessment, I apologize if I offended.

The irony fairly drips from this one.

[A.J.]

Didn't any of you people see Trading Places? It was all explained there!

[Russel P]

Shit, you're right! I saw that documentary years ago! :thumbup:

[high fly]

Someone get a hold of Al Sharpton. This makes Imus look like Martin Luther King.


DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html)




..........far out, maaaaan, I'm having another acid flashback and Suskind is interviewing Shockley again............

[earthbrown]

Africans did not roll the wheel end over end, they used it to assault someone, take their wallet, and buy 40's and air-jordans.






K

[TheMojoPin]

Knock it off.

[earthbrown]

Knock it off.

I couldn't resist...


K

[TheMojoPin]

Start resisting.

[Recyclerz]

Africans did not roll the wheel end over end, they used it to assault someone, take their wallet, and buy 40's and air-jordans.

K

There is a very wide and very bright line with edgy and funny on one side and self-satisfied suburban smugness masquerading as free thought on the other.

I have my opinion as to which side you are on, my friend.

[scottinnj]

Africans did not roll the wheel end over end, they used it to assault someone, take their wallet, and buy 40's and air-jordans.






K

"White people are so scared, of black people......"

[epo]

I know I've grown considerably dumber for having read this thread.

[badmonkey]

car
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/auto.html

cell phone
http://inventors.about.com/cs/inventorsalphabet/a/martin_cooper.htm

Computer
http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/scrapbook/computer.html

Internet
http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/gorethumbsup.jpg

Radio
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_whoradio.html

TV
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae408.cfm

Light Bulb
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/edison/lightbulb.shtml

AC current
http://www.croatians.com/radio.htm

I dont have much time to look for more.


K

The important thing to note here is that if a young, black, Jesus Christ hadn't invented the chair, whitey wouldn't have had anything to sit on to invent a goddamn thing. You might also be interested in this list of stuff white people didn't invent (http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/history.html).