Calling Earl a N

[Turtle]

The past three or four days somebody has been calling the Ron & Fez show and calling Earl a N!@@3R. I heard one of the main douchbags at FBA drop the N bomb on Earl Tuesday and I assume he has done it the other three or four times as well. I did notice that the fucker always make sure they plug that dog shit site. My point is this, Earl may be shitty producer, but the guy should be able to work without “Hater Board” dickheads like joedirt calling him a N!@@3R. It's hack, it's not funny, it's done to shock and plug a website. If you want to rip Earl, then shit on him for what he has or has not done.

By the way I posted the same thread at Wackbag (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=78656)

[Crispy123]

The past three or four days somebody has been calling the Ron & Fez show and calling Earl a N!@@3R. I heard one of the main douchbags at FBA drop the N bomb on Earl Tuesday and I assume he has done it the other three or four times as well. I did notice that the fuckers always make sure they plug that dog shit site. My point is this, Earl may be shitty producer, but the guy should be able to work without “Hater Board” dickheads like joedirt calling him a N!@@3R. It's hack, it's not funny, it's done to shock and plug a website. If you want to rip Earl, then shit on him for what he has or has not done.

By the way I posted the same thread at Wackbag (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=78656)

No, I was just describing what I heard someone say in the bathroom...

http://dhawhee.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/larry_david737304.jpg

[ralphbxny]

The person shows what kind of coward they are by not saying it in studio and also hanging up as soon as he says it. Stay on and defend yourself if your a man. (I write this as if the person can read)

[RAAMONE]

agree...but to be fair whoever is on the phones has let him through the past 4 days...and i doubt it was by accident everytime...it almost seems like its just a bit

[CountryBob]

Does anybody think that calling Earl or anybody else a N - is funny? It is blantantly racist and It slows the flow of the show down. For peolpe that are racist asses, I am sure that Earl has an company email address that you can spew your venom in private. Quit screwing up the show!

[angrymissy]

The past three or four days somebody has been calling the Ron & Fez show and calling Earl a N!@@3R. I heard one of the main douchbags at FBA drop the N bomb on Earl Tuesday and I assume he has done it the other three or four times as well. I did notice that the fucker always make sure they plug that dog shit site. My point is this, Earl may be shitty producer, but the guy should be able to work without “Hater Board” dickheads like joedirt calling him a N!@@3R. It's hack, it's not funny, it's done to shock and plug a website. If you want to rip Earl, then shit on him for what he has or has not done.

By the way I posted the same thread at Wackbag (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=78656)

I have seen the same shit on Wackbag. We don't really care about the whole FBA vs. wackbag dealie over here... I don't think they are considered a "hater board" as far as Ron and Fez goes.

[Turtle]

I have seen the same shit on Wackbag. We don't really care about the whole FBA vs. wackbag dealie over here... I don't think they are considered a "hater board" as far as Ron and Fez goes.

The only reason I posted the link is because the same conversation is going on at wb.

[DolaMight]

I feel terrible for Earl when that shit happens. But to me I have a hard time saying you can't do it because it's hack and not funny because Imus was hack and unfunny when he said what he said.

When R&F(well maybe just R), O&A, and other comedians talk about the need to be free to say whatever they want when they're performing in the business of comedy, it's people like this who take that and use it as justification to be free to be their racist self. It makes it tough for O&A etc... to make that argument when you get callers like this. For whatever reason that sense of humor seems to be more prevalent over at that site and others.

Perfect example of more of the same was 1 year ago tonight when those same cowards chanted nigger throughout the live FREEFM Halloween show, they all thought it was hilarious until PE took the stage with a big black S1W entourage, they shut the fuck up pretty fast.

[denko]

i don't find the phone terrorism funny either, and when they do it its out of the blue, earl's not even talking usually. it was funny when ron said "well, are you earl?" "no" "then whay are these rumors going around?".

i new here and i'm not up on the board wars, if that what it is its pretty lame.

[angrymissy]

The only reason I posted the link is because the same conversation is going on at wb.

Nah, I'm not saying I saw the same thread, I'm saying I've seen ridiculously racist shit on WB.

And I'm not even a poster at FBA, but calling it a "hater board" because they don't lick O&A's asshole anymore doesn't apply here.

[RAAMONE]

it was funny when ron said "well, are you earl?" "no" "then whay are these rumors going around?"

thats why i think its just a little bit...ron can make humor out of it...if they really had a problem with it and thought it was truly offensive and earl was hurt they would just dump out of it

[realmenhatelife]

This kind of thing is really detrimental to free speech though, because guys who are just going to yell N are the people that anyone wanting to limit free speech are going to point at and say "this is why we cant be unrestricted." People need to show personal responsibility, and not take the opportunity to say anything just because its there. What could that guy possibly be saying to his friends afterwards? He must be a total loser "ha ha I just said N to earl, AGAIN!' It's like being in elementary school and rewinding 'we didnt start the fire' over and over to hear billy joel say 'sex'
Earl needs to not let on that stuff bothers him, cus people love to needle him. It got established at NEW and some people dont know to leave the humor to the pro's. I dont think Dave helps either when he says really over the line stuff.

[denko]

thats why i think its just a little bit...ron can make humor out of it...if they really had a problem with it and thought it was truly offensive and earl was hurt they would just dump out of it


earl seemed legitimately pissed when it happened friday (i think), it was the first of the latest "wave" i think earl was really mad. he even went off a little bit, so i think ron said that to let earl know, hey keep your cool the guy is an asshole.

[moochcassidy]

agree...but to be fair whoever is on the phones has let him through the past 4 days...and i doubt it was by accident everytime...it almost seems like its just a bit

if it's a bit it's a shite one

ill never forgive the unfunny fucks that took ani defrenco away from us.

[Dash77]

Earl takes enough shit as it is, but the guy doing this shit is just a dick..

[epo]

thats why i think its just a little bit...ron can make humor out of it...if they really had a problem with it and thought it was truly offensive and earl was hurt they would just dump out of it

If you think Ron would approve of a bit where people call Earl an N on a daily basis, you are out of your mind.

[drjoek]

Bunch a cowards screaming and hanging up :thumbdown:

[Turtle]

Nah, I'm not saying I saw the same thread, I'm saying I've seen ridiculously racist shit on WB.

And I'm not even a poster at FBA, but calling it a "hater board" because they don't lick O&A's asshole anymore doesn't apply here.

You are right, lot of racist shit on WB not argument from me on that. I do think most of it is based on stereotypes and not a personal attack. Not much of a difference but something to point out.

And to your point about “Hater Board”, well that is my opinion and it has been fueled over the past few weeks. In hind sight perhaps I should have left that off of my original post because it was not my intent to make this a board war thread. The reason I brought it up was that the caller said he was from fba.

[zentraed]

if it's a bit it's a shite one

ill never forgive the unfunny fucks that took ani defrenco away from us.

What happened with the Ani drop? I was wondering why I never hear it anymore.

At least right now, it's not a huge problem like it was when the show started. I agree that Earl shouldn't let it bother him, but in this case it's not a "free speech" issue. It's not the show using the word, it's some unfunny idiot caller(s).

Ron has some of the funniest "N word" jokes ever, but he never uses the word. Just more of the genius of Ron Bennington.

[foodcourtdruide]

I agree, I feel sorry for Earl when those calls come in. It's really uncalled for and idiotic. Ron is able to extract humor out of it because he's brilliant, but you can hear disdain in his voice when it happens.

[Hottub]

Don't you remember the hayseeds calling, when they 1st got to XM , just to get the Ani drop? They killed the Comedy Pyramid too.:furious:

[led37zep]

Some people just don't know how to be funny when it comes to race so they just drop the N bomb thinking it'll be "shock jock" like. Its fucking annoying.

[Earlshog]

Don't you remember the hayseeds calling, when they 1st got to XM , just to get the Ani drop? They killed the Comedy Pyramid too.:furious:

wasn't it a Randy Newman drop they were after?

[Marc with a c]

i blame opie

[drjoek]

I think the Ani DiFranco drop is being used more as a comedy bit which it should be. When words that sound like they could be racist but really arent should get the drop.

"That Fill in the blank is getting even bigger"

"white people are so scared......
Thats comedy gold

Someone calls in and screams the N word about Earl doesnt deserve it.

But part of the problem is like Hottub said you set it up to be something funny and hayseeds ruin it. Kind of like when people call in for the big ass prize closet when Fez cries. was funny at the beginning but now kinda sad.

[EliSnow]

Don't you remember the hayseeds calling, when they 1st got to XM , just to get the Ani drop? They killed the Comedy Pyramid too.:furious:

Aren't you thinking of the Randy Newman "We're Rednecks" drop?

I thought they still use the Ani drop.

[Hottub]

I was thinking about "Bily the Trucker" calling in and shouting N just to hear Ani. They wore it out. Done correctly, it is still one of the funniest bits.

[Turtle]

I feel terrible for Earl when that shit happens. But to me I have a hard time saying you can't do it because it's hack and not funny because Imus was hack and unfunny when he said what he said.

When R&F(well maybe just R), O&A, and other comedians talk about the need to be free to say whatever they want when they're performing in the business of comedy, it's people like this who take that and use it as justification to be free to be their racist self. It makes it tough for O&A etc... to make that argument when you get callers like this. For whatever reason that sense of humor seems to be more prevalent over at that site and others.

Perfect example of more of the same was 1 year ago tonight when those same cowards chanted nigger throughout the live FREEFM Halloween show, they all thought it was hilarious until PE took the stage with a big black S1W entourage, they shut the fuck up pretty fast.

well said

[Fezticle98]

well said

Didn't your dad say, "I sure I hope I get to N-bomb some N's today" before leaving for work? You were right to be freaked out by it.

[Turtle]

Didn't your dad say, "I sure I hope I get to N-bomb some N's today" before leaving for work? You were right to be freaked out by it.

Hahaha.

As a little kid you have this image of your dad as this great guy whodoes his job better than anybody. Well his job was to fly a bomber and drop nukes on the USSR. Then you see War Games and the whole thing was a bit odd. He thought I was old enough to get the joke but it was a freak out thing with me.

[buzzard]

http://www.buzzard8.com/wmas/rednecks.wma


too easy like shooting fish in a barrel or using dynamite to troll!:thumbdown:

[AlabamaMan]

I'll bet y'all are wondering what I would post. Well, ....

[Hottub]

I'll bet y'all are wondering what I would post. Well, ....


You used "y'all" in a sentence.
No, we are not wondering.:nono:

[buzzard]

You used "y'all" in a sentence.
No, we are not wondering.:nono:

are you and marc related? yer both killin' today! :lol:

[JustJon]

I completely and utterly support free speech. You complete should be able to say whatever words that you want...

With that said, there's a big difference between being able to say what you want and knowing when not to.

[Bestinshow]

The way Earl acts so super sensitive to the N word you have to wonder if the whole thing is just a bit. Maybe the whole thing is to get everyone to jump to earl's defense, to balance out what are normally negative posts when it comes to Earl. If you think about it, it turns around the whole boards atitude to his favor real fast.

Maybe Earl's real N word is Negative.

[danner1515]

This might not seem like a great comparison, but do you think callers using the N-word as a joke is really any worse than Ron continually having Shirley Phelps-Roper on the show?

[Midkiff]

I blame the blacks.

[banditorico]

If it's not a bit and it continues to be an ongoing problem, the show will stop the calls from going on the air. I'm sure they have a way to block nuisance calls.

Whoever this person is doesn't have the courage to stay on the air and defend his stupidity.

[mikeyboy]

This might not seem like a great comparison, but do you think callers using the N-word as a joke is really any worse than Ron continually having Shirley Phelps-Roper on the show?

yes

[donnie_darko]

being Black and having been told i can't use the word "darkie" or "colored" in my signature on this board did bother me, but i understood the reason behind it.

and i'm glad to see that fans of the show understand as well, cause listening to the show it's hard to tell where people really stand.

I don't think its the word itself, but the intent of the person using the word.. This is a word clearly use to incite the person it's used against, and honestly it makes me a little sad whenever i hear it.

[Marc with a c]

being Black and having been told i can't use the word "darkie" or "colored" in my signature on this board did bother me, but i understood the reason behind it.

that's odd. i was encouraged to use them.

[zildjian361]

I know Earl from the Scootsto years rock on Bro:smoke::drunk::king:

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

niger?

[lleeder]

that's odd. i was encouraged to use them.

I heard Mikeyboy wanted to call you Marc with a edited by Mikeyboy

[danner1515]

yes

Really? I'm pretty new here so I'm sure this has been covered many times, but am I the only one who finds the calls to Shirley Phelps-Roper a little lacking in taste? Sure, Ron gets a few good lines off, but I think giving those scumbags airtime for laughs--feeding their appetite for media exposure whether they're being laughed at or not--isn't much more tasteful than letting a caller use the N-word in a joking fashion. Granted, I don't think the recent Earl-baiting calls are funny.

[mikeyboy]

Really? I'm pretty new here so I'm sure this has been covered many times, but am I the only one who finds the calls to Shirley Phelps-Roper a little lacking in taste? Sure, Ron gets a few good lines off, but I think giving those scumbags airtime for laughs--feeding their appetite for media exposure whether they're being laughed at or not--isn't much more tasteful than letting a caller use the N-word in a joking fashion. Granted, I don't think the recent Earl-baiting calls are funny.

Do you think she comes off right? How about persuasive? Rational? Do you think anyone is taken by her position and joins the church? I highly doubt it. Ron allows Phelps-Roper to make herself look ridiculous and gets in some good lines in the process. How is that offensive?

[TheMojoPin]

The way Earl acts so super sensitive to the N word you have to wonder if the whole thing is just a bit.

Yeah, it's crazy that a black guy would get really bugged out being called that.

[led37zep]

Really? I'm pretty new here so I'm sure this has been covered many times, but am I the only one who finds the calls to Shirley Phelps-Roper a little lacking in taste? Sure, Ron gets a few good lines off, but I think giving those scumbags airtime for laughs--feeding their appetite for media exposure whether they're being laughed at or not--isn't much more tasteful than letting a caller use the N-word in a joking fashion. Granted, I don't think the recent Earl-baiting calls are funny.


The only way the two are related is that they both show the ignorance and stupidity of the people on the other line.

[danner1515]

Do you think she comes off right? How about persuasive? Rational? Do you think anyone is taken by her position and joins the church? I highly doubt it. Ron allows Phelps-Roper to make herself look ridiculous and gets in some good lines in the process. How is that offensive?

Of course not, but both examples pretty much draw their humor from uncomfortable hate speech. No, I don't take anything Phelps-Roper says seriously, but I still cringe when I hear her lead her kids into "God Hates America." I also get the feeling (and I could be wrong about this) that Ron tries to not push her buttons too much so he can keep getting her on the show. I've never heard him take any calls from listeners after having her on. As for the Earl calls, I get the feeling that some of these calls are a bleeding-in from the less-tactful O&A crowd where, you must admit, the boundaries of good taste are blurry at best.

[danner1515]

The only way the two are related is that they both show the ignorance and stupidity of the people on the other line.

Sure, then why should one be taken more or less seriously than the other? Because one deals specifically with a member of the show?

[Chigworthy]

Really? I'm pretty new here so I'm sure this has been covered many times, but am I the only one who finds the calls to Shirley Phelps-Roper a little lacking in taste? Sure, Ron gets a few good lines off, but I think giving those scumbags airtime for laughs--feeding their appetite for media exposure whether they're being laughed at or not--isn't much more tasteful than letting a caller use the N-word in a joking fashion. Granted, I don't think the recent Earl-baiting calls are funny.

I see the Shirley Phelps Roeper calls as serving three purposes:

1: They allow Earl's church to get some exposure. It's not often you get to hear from baptists.

2: They're funny as hell.

3: They are a public service by the R&F show. The Westborons are being exposed for the grandiose shit holsters that they are.

[buzzard]

I think that's unfair to the other 25 letters of the alphabet!

[sailor]

Do you think she comes off right? How about persuasive? Rational? Do you think anyone is taken by her position and joins the church? I highly doubt it. Ron allows Phelps-Roper to make herself look ridiculous and gets in some good lines in the process. How is that offensive?

she makes some good points and we should all be more tolerant of her views.

[TeeBone]

The only 'N - word' I'd call Earl is, NAIVE.

[led37zep]

Sure, then why should one be taken more or less seriously than the other? Because one deals specifically with a member of the show?

I don't know what to tell you bro. I just don't think you get it.

People calling in to be racist vs a "bit" set up by the show. Its context.

[danner1515]

I don't know what to tell you bro. I just don't think you get it.

People calling in to be racist vs a "bit" set up by the show. Its context.

Well, I guess the main reason why I'm not so shocked by the whole N-word thing is that the 202 channel as a whole has a climate of finding humor in pretty dark places, so it shouldn't be too surprising to hear a few callers get a little carried away. I don't think the people who are calling in are actually racist. I think they're just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

[led37zep]

Well, I guess the main reason why I'm not so shocked by the whole N-word thing is that the 202 channel as a whole has a climate of finding humor in pretty dark places. I don't think the people who are calling in are actually racist. I think they're just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

I kinda agree to you there. Look common ground was found! Hug?

[Chigworthy]

The only 'N - word' I'd call Earl is, NAIVE.

What about NEUTERED?

[buzzard]

truthfully,it's not as though the word was being used in Samuel Clemens/Mark Twain context..the calls have a hate overtone,that sux from the highest hill! I believe Death Metal Moe has covered the whole haters gambit much better than I can.

[Chigworthy]

truthfully,it's not as though the word was being used in Samuel Clemens/Mark Twain context..the calls have a hate overtone,that sux from the highest hill! I believe Death Metal Moe has covered the whole haters gambit much better than I can.

I agree. But would you go as far as to say that it sux off a high horse?

[Bestinshow]

Yeah, it's crazy that a black guy would get really bugged out being called that.

I never mentioned anything about him being called the N word. I'm talking about how he talks about the N word in general. You listen to the show enough to know what I'm talking about.

I hate when someone tries to overcompensate for themselves by making someone else look stupid. makes me wonder about their own opinions. I hope you gave yourself a nice pat on the back for that real ingenius twist of my words.

And its crap like this why I hardly even come here anymore.

[denko]

i'm glad they're dumping out of that shit now. good for you ronnie b!

[MadMatt]

i'm glad they're dumping out of that shit now. good for you ronnie b!

Yeah, but it is also really sad too - the fact that Ron has to do it at all is deplorable.

How can some people think it's funny and NOT get that the only time racism is used on the show it is meant jokingly and not done overtly or brutally? Stupid hayseeds and racists have ruined a really funny bit. It's sad.

[Dougie Brootal]

does this mean they're gonna retire the ani drop?:flush:

[TheMojoPin]

I never mentioned anything about him being called the N word.

Your post didn't make that clear at all. This was the first line of your post, the part that made me respond:

The way Earl acts so super sensitive to the N word you have to wonder if the whole thing is just a bit.

How the heck does that calrify between him just talking about the word and him responding to being called it? The rest of your post did nothing to clarify this difference...

I'm talking about how he talks about the N word in general.

...which brings me to this. Why should there be a difference? I really don't understand why someone would be surprised or whatever you were that Earl is sensitive about the word whether he is being called it or in being used any other way.

You listen to the show enough to know what I'm talking about.

Actually, I don't have XM, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

I hate when someone tries to overcompensate for themselves by making someone else look stupid. makes me wonder about their own opinions. I hope you gave yourself a nice pat on the back for that real ingenius twist of my words.

I didn't have to "twist" anything. I responded to your post as it was since it did nothing to clarify between him being called that or him just being around or in conversations about the word. That said, as I pointed out, I still stand by my remark, sarcastic as it was, because it makes no sense to have to question why someone, especially a black person, would not like to hear that word in any context. It's not like we're talking about some seemingly random word being used here. Hopefully you're not still "wondering about my opinion."

And its crap like this why I hardly even come here anymore.

Yeah, people having differing opinions is a real shame. And sarcasm, too! Simply awful.

[Bestinshow]

Yeah, people having differing opinions is a real shame. And sarcasm, too! Simply awful.

Wow, someone pissed off that it was a posters "opinion" that he was insensitive. How awful.

You didnt have a different opinion, you attacked my post. I never said Earl shouldn't be offended when he's personally verbally attacked.And I could give a rats ass if you're sarcastic. You are always sarcastic.

Its my opinion that Earl is sometimes too sensitive about the general use of that word. Why? I am not going to get into the semantics and start a debate about that here. But maybe you better yell at Ronny also because he has chided earl on that same subject more than once. Maybe you should be familiar with the show bits before you make insinuations like this.

I don't care if someone has a different opinion from me. I don't like when someone uses arrogance to pick apart my post and make a personal attack. And thats always been way to frequent in here.

[RAAMONE]

Wow, someone pissed off that it was a posters "opinion" that he was insensitive. How awful.

You didnt have a different opinion, you attacked my post. And I could give a rats ass if you're sarcastic. You are always sarcastic.

Its my opinion that Earl is sometimes too sensitive about the general use of that word. Why? I am not going to get into the semantics and start a debate about that here. But maybe you better yell at Ronny also because he has chided earl on that same subject more than once. Maybe you should be familiar with the show bits before you make insinuations like this.

FACE!

[Hottub]

FACE!


You forgot to say Linger Longer!

[RAAMONE]

linger longer

[TheMojoPin]

Wow, someone pissed off that it was a posters "opinion" that he was insensitive. How awful.

I'm pissed off?

You didnt have a different opinion, you attacked my post. I never said Earl shouldn't be offended when he's personally verbally attacked.And I could give a rats ass if you're sarcastic. You are always sarcastic.

If I'm always sarcastic, and I usually am, then how was my response "attacking" your post as opposed to just being a sarcastic response?

Its my opinion that Earl is sometimes too sensitive about the general use of that word. Why? I am not going to get into the semantics and start a debate about that here.

Fine. My response was based out of my opinion that I think it's ridiculous to think that anyone could really be "too sensitive" about that word, especially a black person. I understand people get bent out of shape over a lot of realitvely minor stuff, but I think this word is one of the very few exceptions. I just don't think we can really hold it against Earl for being "too sensitive" when it comes to something like this. But that's just my opinion. We clearly see this differently.

But maybe you better yell at Ronny also because he has chided earl on that same subject more than once. Maybe you should be familiar with the show bits before you make insinuations like this.

Then I disagree with Ron. Just because he says something doesn't mean that it's right or that I have to agree with it. I believe this discussion clearly goes beyond having to be aware of the details of a "bit" when this has obviously gone far beyond just being a bit. I remember in the past when I could listen Earl would always get a little on edge when things took a turn for the ugly racially.

I don't care if someone has a different opinion from me. I don't like when someone uses arrogance to pick apart my post and make a personal attack. And thats always been way to frequent in here.

I made a sarcastic comment. I really don't see how that can possibly be construed as a "personal attack." A personal attack is when someone is going out of their way to insult and attack the poster themselves. I was replying to how your post came across.

[lleeder]

does this mean they're gonna retire the ani drop?:flush:

They haven't played it in quite a long time.

[MikeB]

wow two n word dumps in the first 30 minutes today.

[suggums]

wow two n word dumps in the first 30 minutes today.

thats what i was thinking, then i visited this thread.

basically i hate the douche that keeps calling in to do it to earl like a hack. in fact it was beyond hack to just keep doing it and hang up, that same fucker would never stay on and defend his comment or anything, just a goddamn pussy behind a phone.

good riddance!

[Hottub]

Hey suggums, to quote raamone, "Linger Longer". He has already been called out here.
Now be a good little detective and find that info.

[mikeyboy]

Hey suggums, to quote raamone, "Linger Longer". He has already been called out here.
Now be a good little detective and find that info.

There's been some speculation floating around that the person who was identified as the caller is actually someone posing as that caller trying to make a board look bad. True? I have no idea.

[Hottub]

Fair enough. I will hold any further discussion until we have more evidence.
Prosecution rests, your honor.

[waltermitty]

There's been some speculation floating around that the person who was identified as the caller is actually someone posing as that caller trying to make a board look bad. True? I have no idea.

I find it hard to believe that the person has identified themselves truthfully....
Even a dumbass bigot wouldn't proudly proclaim "Hey, this is ... from .... and Earl is ...."

When I heard that I figured that it was someone trying to make a Particular Board member look like an ass.....