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DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 04:41 PM
This question has been bothering me for a while now, even before the War. Killing is an inherently evil act. There is no religion in the world that condones relgion. I think all people feel inside of them the evil of taking another person's life.

So a person that kills for a living--no matter what the circumstances--isn't that evil? Or are you exempt if you kill for a good reason, like if your mom was being kidnapped?

What if your reason is because your commander told you to?

Does being a soldier free you from the accepted morals of society.

I cant decide. Help me settle my soul

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10-31-2007, 04:44 PM
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Doogie
10-31-2007, 04:49 PM
Do you send people to hell whose only job is to protect the people of their nation?? Who sacrifice all semblence of a normal life to make sure that citizens can sleep well at night?? If a person is doing the duty especially to protect lives and property is that person a sinner?? Or is it rather that people that allow wars to happen who go to hell. That is how I view it.

I know these questions are tough to ask considering the state of affairs now a days. I see a soldier as one who is upholding their duty, as long as that duty is to protect the people and state they are protecting. If a soldier deviates from that duty to settle some personal vendetta or to cause intentional harm, then yes they should go to hell. Most soldiers will go out of their way NOT to cause uneccessary damage to peoples property, nor harm to citizens.

JPMNICK
10-31-2007, 04:51 PM
does anyone go to hell? i doubt that there is some place that bad people go to. i think soldiers, like everyone else, just die and become part of the earth again

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 04:52 PM
Do you send people to hell whose only job is to protect the people of their nation?? i guess that's the heart of the question: Do good intentions absolve you from actions you may have to take?

Bulldogcakes
10-31-2007, 04:59 PM
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't."

"There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time.""

-General George Patton Jr

Marc with a c
10-31-2007, 05:04 PM
no true american goes to hell as long as they are catholic.

TheMojoPin
10-31-2007, 05:06 PM
If you go strictly by the 10 commandments, then yes, it's a sin to kill no matter what and you'd go to Hell for doing it.

JPMNICK
10-31-2007, 05:08 PM
If you go strictly by the 10 commandments, then yes, it's a sin to kill no matter what and you'd go to Hell for doing it.

is god in hell for killing all those people in the bible?

Tallman388
10-31-2007, 05:37 PM
I guess it really depends on your point of view. Shirley Phelps Roper would tell you that they do, then again that stupid church of her father's got stuck with a bill for $2.6 Million today.

Some churches go with the whole "if you ask for forgiveness, it will be granted" deal, so I guess it comes down to asking for forgiveness.

Fezticle98
10-31-2007, 05:45 PM
What if your reason is because your commander told you to?

Does being a soldier free you from the accepted morals of society.

I cant decide. Help me settle my soul

Perhaps you should speak to your spiritual adviser.

In Catholicism, there is a thing called the Just War Doctrine. I would guess that some other religions have a similar thing.

Does being a soldier free you from the accepted morals of society? No. But the accepted morals of our society allow for killing during war or self defense, or even capital punishment, for that matter.

Anyways, fuck society's morals. Morals are a personal thing. Laws are society's thing.

TheMojoPin
10-31-2007, 05:47 PM
is god in hell for killing all those people in the bible?

OH NOES. You mean the Bible contradicts itself? IMPOSSIBLE.

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 06:03 PM
OH NOES. You mean the Bible contradicts itself? IMPOSSIBLE.

well . . . all the great warrior-kings from the bible end up earning the wrath of god in the end. maybe whoever wrote it is trying to tell us something

donnie_darko
10-31-2007, 06:03 PM
my favorite part of your question

"There is no religion in the world that condones relgion."

I would have a lot more respect for this question if "hell" wasn't involved.

for someone to go to hell would mean there would have to be a hell, and lets be honest with ourselves and just admit the idea of god is far too basic of a premise to be real.

and a better question would be are soldiers sent to an unjustified war, to protect a country who was never in peril, "go to hell"

you are obviously a religious person, would you feel safe coming home from war after killing countless people, knowing someday you may have to defend these actions knowing your country was never in jeopardy?

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 06:16 PM
my favorite part of your question

"There is no religion in the world that condones relgion."

I would have a lot more respect for this question if "hell" wasn't involved.

for someone to go to hell would mean there would have to be a hell, and lets be honest with ourselves and just admit the idea of god is far too basic of a premise to be real.

and a better question would be are soldiers sent to an unjustified war, to protect a country who was never in peril, "go to hell"

you are obviously a religious person, would you feel safe coming home from war after killing countless people, knowing someday you may have to defend these actions knowing your country was never in jeopardy?


I think this question is more about morals than religion. I think that there is a universal relgion--compare to the Collective Unconscious--that all people understand in their hearts. And i believe that in that universal relgion killing is evil.

Part of this is because i want to support the troops. But how can i support them if i belive that what they do is evil?

lleeder
10-31-2007, 06:19 PM
Doesn't this whole thing stem from what side your on? People we fight and have fought in the past thought they were just as right as we thought when the war started. Just because we are fighting someone doesn't mean that GOD is on our side. We hope he is but we don't really know that we are right or were ever right about anything. Staying away from current wars and politics, let me ask you, Are the British soldiers that fought us in the Revolutionary War in Hell?

Crispy123
10-31-2007, 06:23 PM
I think this question is more about morals than religion. I think that there is a universal relgion--compare to the Collective Unconscious--that all people understand in their hearts. And i believe that in that universal relgion killing is evil.

Part of this is because i want to support the troops. But how can i support them if i belive that what they do is evil?

I would say that you are wrong in assuming that there is a universal religion and collective unconscious. I would agree that everyone asks themselves if there is more out there than what we can see or touch. Your personal beliefs are what they are. The bible is not clear on this issue like many others. I would submit that anyone who has ever killed another human being has a heavy burden on their hearts to carry with them for the rest of their life. What that does to them after their time is up on this Earth, I can not say.

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 06:26 PM
Doesn't this whole thing stem from what side your on? People we fight and have fought in the past thought they were just as right as we thought when the war started. Just because we are fighting someone doesn't mean that GOD is on our side. We hope he is but we don't really know that we are right or were ever right about anything. Staying away from current wars and politics, let me ask you, Are the British soldiers that fought us in the Revolutionary War in Hell?

Well, they killed people, and killing is evil. I don't believe in hell, i dont believe that there is any spirtual justice other than what we initiate, but i do belive that they committed evil, and if there was a hell, they would be in it.

I feel guilty for my answer. I know so many people in the service. It hurts to come to terms with what i've been feeling.

lleeder
10-31-2007, 06:27 PM
Well, they killed people, and killing is evil. I don't believe in hell, i dont believe that there is any spirtual justice other than what we initiate, but i do belive that they committed evil, and if there was a hell, they would be in it.

I feel guilty for my answer. I know so many people in the service. It hurts to come to terms with what i've been feeling.

Your like a hippie only much much darker.

Fezticle98
10-31-2007, 06:27 PM
I think this question is more about morals than religion. I think that there is a universal relgion--compare to the Collective Unconscious--that all people understand in their hearts. And i believe that in that universal relgion killing is evil.

Part of this is because i want to support the troops. But how can i support them if i belive that what they do is evil?

If you believe that what they do is evil, you shouldn't support them. In fact, if those are you're beliefs, then you should be out there protesting against them, not standing idly by. Why do you want to support the troops? Guilt? Popular sentiment? Fear?

Thank god for those "killers" back in WWII.

Crispy123
10-31-2007, 06:29 PM
How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

lleeder
10-31-2007, 06:30 PM
How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

So we should act like animals and plants? I'm going outside to shit and then please water me when I'm done.

TheMojoPin
10-31-2007, 06:31 PM
How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

Exactly. And like it was pointed out, how can some divine entity that kills untold numbers of living things whenever he/she/it feels like it just decide that "killing is bad?"

Crispy123
10-31-2007, 06:32 PM
So we should act like animals and plants? I'm going outside to shit and then please water me when I'm done.

Wow that was easy

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 06:32 PM
How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

see above post about the collective unconscious

DarkHippie
10-31-2007, 06:37 PM
Thank god for those "killers" back in WWII.

Exactly! by going to war, the greater good was served. But a lot of evil has to be committed for that to happen. So do the soldiers get a pass on the things they did because it was for a good cause? Do the ends justify the means?

Kris10
10-31-2007, 07:42 PM
Do the ends justify the means?

Its like economics

CofyCrakCocaine
10-31-2007, 07:58 PM
Well, if you really wanna be strict with the Ten Commandments, the whole "Thou Shalt Not Kill" thing was basically saying this: "Thou Shalt Not Kill (other Hebrews)". It was just fine to kill Philistines or Romans or whomever threatened the ancient tribes of Judaism. Those tribes being that from which the whole Ten Commandments originates from. So technically speaking, if that whole thing was what put you in hell, then I guess the Nazis are fucked and the Allies are fine.

An interesting paradox to this whole thing of course is King David, whose name is revered in Biblical tradition. The man came to Kingship after joining with the Philistines as a mercenary to oppose Saul. Israel's spiritual leader Samuel may have loved David and hated Saul (who was political king of the Hebrews), but that does not change the fact that David led his people's enemy against his own people- and it's hard to imagine no one was killed in the process. Once he acquired Kingship upon Saul's death, he turned around and smashed the Philistines.

Does King David go to Hell?

PapaBear
10-31-2007, 08:19 PM
If you go strictly by the 10 commandments, then yes, it's a sin to kill no matter what and you'd go to Hell for doing it.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that some translations say that the commandment is actually, "Thou shall not murder". Murder is a legal term and killing in war is not murder.

zentraed
10-31-2007, 08:23 PM
For the day to functioning of our society, killing is bad. It's economics: killing leads to uncertainty and instability. However, when there are people out there who kill, then we have to be prepared to confront them to maintain our society.

Ultimately, there is no right and wrong or good and evil. It's just what are your goals for society, and what rules allow you to achieve them.

Yerdaddy
11-01-2007, 12:47 AM
How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

GOD HATES PLANTS!

Yerdaddy
11-01-2007, 12:52 AM
well . . . all the great warrior-kings from the bible end up earning the wrath of god in the end. maybe whoever wrote it is trying to tell us something

What ever happened to Abraham? He passes God's "test" of his faith by attempting to murder his son on God's command. He's now held up as one of the great prophets by three of the largest religions and yet, if any individual today were to say to his neighbor "I'll be right back. I'm just taking my son up to the hills to kill him because God told me to in a dream," we'd rightly think he was insane and punish him accodingly. Instead, God stops him at the last second and gives him a kingdom of men and people celebrate his act of intent to commit murder. Do the doctrines of Christianity, Judaism and Islam teach that Abraham's in heaven or hell, and how did God treat him in the end? I honestly don't know.

nickeye
11-01-2007, 04:05 AM
Dante and Virgil see Ulysses in the eighth circle of hell. He's being punished for developing the strategy of the Trojan horse during the war.

A.J.
11-01-2007, 04:44 AM
What ever happened to Abraham? He passes God's "test" of his faith by attempting to murder his son on God's command. He's now held up as one of the great prophets by three of the largest religions and yet, if any individual today were to say to his neighbor "I'll be right back. I'm just taking my son up to the hills to kill him because God told me to in a dream," we'd rightly think he was insane and punish him accodingly. Instead, God stops him at the last second and gives him a kingdom of men and people celebrate his act of intent to commit murder. Do the doctrines of Christianity, Judaism and Islam teach that Abraham's in heaven or hell, and how did God treat him in the end? I honestly don't know.

He came back as the U.S. Ambassdor to the Court of St. James.

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Midkiff
11-01-2007, 04:47 AM
This argument would make sense if there were actually any such thing as an afterlife.


But anyway, Bible-thumpers think it is OK, because th Bible does say you're supposed to go to war if your leaders say so.

JPMNICK
11-01-2007, 04:58 AM
does a doctor go to hell if a patient dies and it is deemed to be his fault?
i think both cases are occupational hazard.

in the case of the military, in terms of who would go to hell, would be the person who sanctioned the killings. that is my opinion

Coach_Mac
11-01-2007, 06:30 AM
First of all, the things you do in life good or bad have nothing to do with you going to heaven or hell. Second, there are wars throughout the bible and God helped His people win some of those wars because they were truely fighting in His name...not saying that we are now, we are not. God is for whatever glorifies Him. But killing someone is a sin, lying is a sin. A sin is a sin equally.

Dougie Brootal
11-01-2007, 06:39 AM
i guess that's the heart of the question: Do good intentions absolve you from actions you may have to take?

the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


its questions like the ones asked in this thread that really reinforce my belief that there is no god. killing is killing whether done for duty, profit, or pleasure. and the bible says killing is wrong no matter what. i cannot condone a religion that condemns soldiers who protect our freedoms to hell. and if the church says that soldiers dont go to hell then in my mind it invalidates all the commandments cuz why do people get a free pass for the worst one?

so to answer your question, no soldiers dont go to hell. and they dont go to heaven either. no one does, its all imaginary.

Furtherman
11-01-2007, 06:58 AM
does anyone go to hell? i doubt that there is some place that bad people go to. i think soldiers, like everyone else, just die and become part of the earth again

How can you say killing is evil? Evil is an idea, an abstract thought. Animals kill each other all the time, hell plants even kill. It is a part of the natural world.

There you go. You've only assigned an "evil" label to killing. It's survival of the species. You can argue which killing is worthless, worthy or even necessary, but those are all traits humans have given the act. The act itself just is. There's no right or wrong in it's most primitive form. We're all just objects in this universe made up a package of atoms and gravity which keeps us from scattering in the wind.

Hell is abstract idea given the same weight as Heaven. We all want to live together in a productive way, well then act this way and you get to live forever happily, and if you act this way you'll live forever unhappily. It's simplistic bullshit.

We have the means to kill. Thinking of hell is just a waste of your time and the short life we have. The only thing that matters is that if someone is going to kill you, will you be able to defend yourself by killing them first.

Can you pull the trigger? Survival of the fittest. Can't? Thinning of the herd.

The sooner you drop any superstitious myths that were taught to you as a child, the better off you'll be, or you'll find yourself an old man wonder how does that fat man get down the chimney.

Team_Ramrod
11-01-2007, 07:08 AM
There's too many differing opinions to get a good answer from this question...
You'd have to consider the religion of the person, the beliefs of that religion, and of course the reality of a heaven and a hell.

In my opinion, they are fighting for their country, this is their job. They fight for all those who can't or won't, to allow them to live like they do.
To sacrifice like that would immediately put you in heaven (if you believe there is one).

Whatever the truth is.... They are held to a higher regard in my eyes than pretty well any other profession.

A.J.
11-01-2007, 08:28 AM
So what's to become of THIS guy in the afterlife?

Pilot of plane that dropped A-bomb dies. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_re_us/obit_tibbets)

Dougie Brootal
11-01-2007, 08:32 AM
So what's to become of THIS guy in the afterlife?

Pilot of plane that dropped A-bomb dies. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_re_us/obit_tibbets)

well first theyll have a funeral or memorial service then either light him on fire or put him in the ground for worm food. and life will go on.

Doogie
11-01-2007, 08:38 AM
A soldiers duty is to protect the life of not only the country he swore allegiance to, but also to protect the people of a country that they are at war with. I know it sounds like a bizarre concept, but you dont harm the civilians of a country you are at war with. Now if you are being attacked by them (ie, during the invasion of Okinawa) you have a right to defend yourself. But generally you want to protect all citizens not directly involved in the conflict.

TheMojoPin
11-01-2007, 08:38 AM
What about people that only stare at another man's boner, but don't touch it? Does God hate him like all the other gays, or does he only dislike him a little bit?

TheMojoPin
11-01-2007, 08:38 AM
A soldiers duty is to protect the life of not only the country he swore allegiance to, but also to protect the people of a country that they are at war with. I know it sounds like a bizarre concept, but you dont harm the civilians of a country you are at war with. Now if you are being attacked by them (ie, during the invasion of Okinawa) you have a right to defend yourself. But generally you want to protect all citizens not directly involved in the conflict.

What if it is their duty to please that booty?

Dougie Brootal
11-01-2007, 08:39 AM
What about people that only stare at another man's boner, but don't touch it? Does God hate him like all the other gays, or does he only dislike him a little bit?

what if he tickles the balls alittle bit but doesnt tell his message board "friends"?

TheMojoPin
11-01-2007, 08:41 AM
what if he tickles the balls alittle bit but doesnt tell his message board "friends"?

Hey, we won't judge, but the Big Guy upstairs...according to the Phelps, he holds a grudge. AND NO BALLS.

Dougie Brootal
11-01-2007, 08:42 AM
Hey, we won't judge, but the Big Guy upstairs...according to the Phelps, he holds a grudge. AND NO BALLS.

how could he see? we were under the covers!!!

Tall_James
11-01-2007, 09:04 AM
I would hope they go somewhere like "Special Ops Heaven". It's a G-Man Valhalla! There's trim and guns everywhere. And they eat steak flavored clouds and poop secrets!

Fezticle98
11-01-2007, 09:08 AM
What about Fez? Does God hate him like all the other gays, or does he only dislike him a little bit?

Fixed it for ya.

Death Metal Moe
11-01-2007, 09:18 AM
I love religion mixed with war.

Ya push religion so soldiers don't feel they are throwing their lives away when they die in battle, but the religions all condemn killing.

nancy drew
11-01-2007, 09:22 AM
Anyways, fuck society's morals. Morals are a personal thing. Laws are society's thing.

but where do you draw the line between personal morals and society's laws?
many people's personal morals conflict or overlap with laws...
i dont think moral subjectivism is the answer

Yerdaddy
11-01-2007, 09:44 AM
but where do you draw the line between personal morals and society's laws?
many people's personal morals conflict or overlap with laws...
i dont think moral subjectivism is the answer

But you've defined the subjectivity of morality right there: each person has his own definition of moral questions regardless of the legal views of the same issue. If a person is drafted and he ponders his moral responsibilities in whether to submit to the draft based on his views on the rightness of the war and/or his views on this question of Biblical sanction of killing in war then he's acting on the fact that morality is subjective.

A.J.
11-01-2007, 09:58 AM
the religions all condemn killing.

Except when it's done in God's name. Eternal afterlife and virgins for all!

Midkiff
11-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Except when it's done in God's name. Eternal afterlife and virgins for all!

Muslim wives must really respect their husbands. "Oh, gee, my hubby is a wonderful and holy man! Everything he does is so he can 72 fresh young pussies for himself, and totally forget about me! Hooray!"

Or maybe they're OK with it because they think they'll get 72 fresh young virgin cocks.

Death Metal Moe
11-01-2007, 11:09 AM
Muslim wives must really respect their husbands. "Oh, gee, my hubby is a wonderful and holy man! Everything he does is so he can 72 fresh young pussies for himself, and totally forget about me! Hooray!"

Or maybe they're OK with it because they think they'll get 72 fresh young virgin cocks.

From what I've understood over the years, muslim women get the shaft in the religion. So I doubt they get anything.

keithy_19
11-01-2007, 11:28 AM
From what I've understood over the years, muslim women get the shaft in the religion. So I doubt they get anything.

They probably get raped in heaven.

Furtherman
11-01-2007, 11:32 AM
Keithy! You 'ol Sensitive Sam... that was funny!

DarkHippie
11-01-2007, 02:15 PM
The scary thing to me is that this morally puts me on the same side of the fence as that Fred Phelps fucker.

Mike Teacher
11-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Whoa. Dive right in:

Killing is an inherently evil act.

=

I think maybe ya mean murder, but dont let me put words in your mouth, maybe ya mean killing. For me, death is as natural a part of nature as anything. Nature thrives on death, and nature is, as Gould describes it, a 'A Beautiful Killing Machine'. So, for killing stuff; hey, things gotta eat.

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Someone else mentoned that since the bible commandment is 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' any killing = hellbound. I think modern versions of the bible translate it as 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' again; to differentiate two very different things.

An aside, the Bible God does a colossal amount of killing in the bible [passover, flood]; and orders people to kill. Example: God orders people to stone to death a man who collected wood on the sabbath.

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I dismiss the archaic good = heaven bad = hell; there is some reward for good behaviour and the bad get punished in the afterlife; none of that rings true for me now. Truly suck scumbags sometimes go through life on Easy Street, and Good and True people get the shaft every day. Vice versa is true too; just showing that in my opinion, Nature is Cruel but Fair.

Cruel = She we get you. There's no escaping your date with dirt.

Fair = She doesnt care who you are, how rich you are, if you're good/bad/indifferent/young/old.

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We're this brand new species with these brand new brains and this brand new technology, and War has always been with us, it's how things get 'resolved'

The worst thing to happen to war is the distance between killer and victim.

Wow about 5% of this is relevant to the Q

lleeder
11-01-2007, 04:08 PM
I wonder if Heavens got a ghetto

keithy_19
11-01-2007, 08:49 PM
I wonder if Heavens got a ghetto

It's reserved for the people that repent on their death beds after living a life of indescency. For instance, the son of sam will certainly get the aushchwhitz of heaven.

JPMNICK
11-01-2007, 08:57 PM
I wonder if Heavens got a ghetto

It's reserved for the people that repent on their death beds after living a life of indescency. For instance, the son of sam will certainly get the aushchwhitz of heaven.

I think it was a 2-pac reference

keithy_19
11-01-2007, 09:20 PM
I think it was a 2-pac reference

2-pac is on the left side, right next to God and Kanye on the right. Everyone knows that.

moochcassidy
11-01-2007, 11:28 PM
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DarkHippie
11-02-2007, 12:12 PM
All i know is if there's a god in heaven he's got a silver thunderbird

Marc with a c
11-02-2007, 12:43 PM
the good ones do.

buzzard
11-02-2007, 01:39 PM
the good ones do.

damn yer on today (no homo) I'm speechless:clap::clap::clap:

Midkiff
11-02-2007, 03:26 PM
I’m not feeling alright today
I’m not feeling that great
I’m not catching on fire today
love has started to fade
I’m not going to smile today
I’m not gonna laugh
you're out living it up today
I’ve got dues to pay

And the grave-digger puts on the forceps
The stone mason does all the work
The barber can give you a haircut
The carpenter can take you out to lunch

I just want to play on my pan-pipes
I just want to drink me some wine
as soon as you're born you start dying
so you might as well have a good time

Sheep go to heaven
Goats go to hell
Sheep go to heaven
Goats… go to hell

I don't wanna go to sunset strip
I don't wanna feel the emptiness
bold marquees with stupid band names
I don't wanna go to sunset strip
I don't wanna go to sunset strip
I don't wanna feel the emptiness
Bold marquees with stupid band names
I don't wanna go to sunset strip

And the grave-digger puts on the forceps
The stone mason does all the work
The barber can give you a haircut
The carpenter can take you out to lunch

I just want to play on my pan-pipes
I just want to drink me some wine
As soon as you're born you start dying
So you might as well have a good time

Sheep go to heaven
Goats go to hell
Sheep go to heaven
Goats… go to hell

And the grave-digger puts on the forceps
The stone mason does all the work
The barber can give you a haircut
The carpenter can take you out to lunch

I just want to play on my pan-pipes
I just want to drink me some wine
As soon as you're born you start dying
So you might as well have a good time

Sheep go to heaven
Goats go to hell
Sheep go to heaven
Goats… go to hell [x5]

led37zep
11-02-2007, 04:16 PM
Midkiff said exactly what I was thinking!!!!

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buzzard
11-02-2007, 10:35 PM
I guess John Prine is right,Yer Flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore,It's already overcrowded from yer dirty lil war,Jesus don't like killin',no matter what the killin's for.Yer flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore:surrender:

TheMojoPin
11-03-2007, 09:26 AM
If you can play on the fiddle
How's about a British jig and reel?
Speaking King's English in quotation
As railhead towns feel the steel mills rust water froze
In the generation
Clear as winter ice
This is your paradise

There ain't no need for ya
There ain't no need for ya
Go straight to Hell boys
Go straight to Hell boys

Y'wanna join in a chorus
Of the Amerasian blues?
When it's Christmas out in Ho Chi Minh City
Kiddie say papa papa papa papa papa-san take me home
See me got photo photo
Photograph of you and Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Of you and Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Lemme tell ya 'bout your blood bamboo kid.
It ain't Coca-Cola it's rice.

Straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Oh Papa-san
Please take me home
Oh Papa-san
Everybody they wanna go home
So Mamma-san said

You wanna play mind-crazed banjo
On the druggy-drag ragtime U.S.A.?
In Parkland International
Hey! Junkiedom U.S.A.
Where procaine proves the purest rock man groove
and rat poison
The volatile Molotov says-

PSSST...
HEY CHICO WE GOT A MESSAGE FOR YA... SI...
VAMOS VAMOS MUCHACHO
FROM ALPHABET CITY ALL THE WAY A TO Z, DEAD, HEAD

Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Straight to Hell

Oh Papa-San
Please take me home
There ain't no need for ya,
There ain't no need for ya

Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys

Can you cough it up loud and strong
The immigrants
They wanna sing all night long
It could be anywhere
Most likely could be any frontier
Any hemisphere
No man's land
Ain't no asylum here
King Solomon he never lived round here

Straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys
Go straight to Hell, boys

Oh Papa-San
Please take me home
Oh Papa-San
Everybody, they wanna go home now...