Do you know anything about A BRAVE NEW WORLD[thebook]

[Sheeplovr]

im reading it and school and i understand the meaning of the book but its so hard to read like i just am haveing troble with it what do u know about it can u give a quick run down of the story cause i thinkk i got it

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[HordeKing1]

SHEEPLOVR - I envy you. Reading Brave New World for the first time was such a pleasure. It was one of the first social commentary I read disguised as a science fiction story. (The second was Starship Trooper by Robert Heinlen and if you haven't read it lately you owe it to yourself to read his insights into fascism - disguised as a science fiction war story. It's NOTHING like the movie. Please read the book.

OK, very short synopsis. Society is divided into classes. The Alpha's (A's) are genetically engineered for the best of everything. They have the best jobs, the most money, the best of everything. Others have been genetically engineered deliberately to be of lower intelligence. An "A" wouldn't work as a garbageman but a "D" knows what his place is.

The actual story of the "savage" living outside the system is inconsequential. It's there to provide a contrast between the socially engineered "utopian" society and the rigid, heirarchal, mechanical functioning of it's members and the freedom and beauty of the wild, uncontrolled and unpredictable savages, who are very much like us.

Huxley envisioned utopias as inevitably dystopic.

(I believe this book was written in the 1930's which was midway b/w WWII and a time of great social unrest in America.)

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[nickeye]

Yeah, cool book, but some parts seem to fall into capitalism-bashing. I believe Huxley wrote this during a rise in the popularity of Communism and at least a decade before the Red Scare and McCarthy hearings in the 40's and 50's, so the sentiment is understandable.

Balance it out with Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand. It's pretty funny to see the parallels to Microsoft's political woes and realize that Rand wrote the book in the 50's.

--NickEye

[sketchy]

Yeah, cool book, but some parts seem to fall into capitalism-bashing.


i have agree completely with you this nick. especially being an objectivist and an ayn rand fan for years. for q much much quicker read then atlas shrugged, try anthem. only takes a few hours to get through. very simular to new world but years before huxley. another story about a utopian society with an outsider. an altuistic society that has gone so far that the word "I" doesnt even exsist anymore.

sorry to be off topic and i cant help you with brave new world its been 15 years or so since i read it. i was just enjoying our little geek book of the month club.

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[RF Godfather]

Huxely a true legend and a phenomenal read. Had to read it for Sociology class two years ago. It basically revolved around a world that is to be a utopia meaning no place.

I couldn't elaborate better than HordeKing on the book.

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[Thunderlips]

I haven't read it for several years, and HordeKing pretty much took care of everything.

When I first heard the news this week of cloned human embryos, I immediately thought of Brave New World. You are lucky to be reading this book, especially right now. He has some "wacky" ideas, but they don't seem so far-fetched anymore.

[INFOSTUD]

Dude,

It's a great book. Get yourself a copy of the Cliff Notes on the book. It will give you a chapter by chapter summary and analysis of book.

Remember read the whole book--NOT JUST THE CLIFF NOTES.

I always used to read a classic book with a copy of the appropriate Cliff Notes and a dictionary and a notebook to jot down my thoughts about what I read.

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[RF Godfather]

HordeKing = Sheep's personal CLIFF NOTES?

Just a thought.

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[nickeye]

HordeKing = Sheep's personal CLIFF NOTES?

Yeah, he could really wreak havoc with Sheep's education.

The Divine Comedy? A story about the fat trannie from Hairspray.
The Tin Drum? Ringo Starr's autobiography.
Little Women? Porn.

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[RF Godfather]

Nice one, NICKeye.

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[Sheeplovr]

Thankyou buddy

i got a test tomarrow on chapter 6 trough 11
got anything on that?



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[TomPoo]

there is another theme to this book that hasn't been addressed.

The "utopia" wasn't really a "utopia" at all.

Everyone lived in a middle zone of comfort, feeding off of sex and drugs for happiness... there is no true fullfillment in there lives.

theres lives are at a constant level of contentment, they have no highs or lows inthere lives

Look at it this way, imagin YOU going through life with out ever having anything significantly shape you as a person... weather it be a trajic event or one of happiness. It is everyones unique experiense who make you who you are... the people in this book do not have that.

They are all conditioned from birth to accept one way of life, and never experence true humanity.



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[HordeKing1]

TOM - That's why I spoke of Huxley's vision of utopias being dystopic by nature.

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[Se7en]

Huxley's BNW is EXACTLY what concerns me with genetic research.

I just fear that one day we'll go beyond just trying to eliminate diseases and benefit the public welfare, and venture into forced evolution, thus creating a genetic caste structure.

Good book, but sobering when you think of it's application to today's events.

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[Sheeplovr]

i think i blew the test thanks for the help though guys i cant trember stupid events i can get the story but dont ask me what jhon did after somthing happens no fair

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