sesame street

[topless_mike]

i dont know what to make of this.
it is the ny times which, well we all know is about as reliable as the titanic.

story (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1)

i really hope that this is not true.
if it is, i am going to go home and hug my son. he will be living in such a sad, fake world when he grows up.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wow , i need to catch up on some sesame street....

we do live in fantasy land, where the cameras dont show real life and our mean cursy ways

:king:

[JustJon]

How is that hard to believe? We candy coat everything now. You can't have cookie monster, you can't show any smoking devices (pipes), you can't have grumpy characters like Oscar, etc.

I would say buy the DVDs, watch them yourself then show them to your kid.

[Snacks]

Mike you really drink the Kool Aid that Fox and the "Far" right are serving. The NY Times is a great paper. It is the most referenced newspaper for everything. The right and fox use it when it agrees with something they are talking about. But when they write things against the war and against your boy Bush then it becomes a shitty liberal paper (in their eyes).

As for this story, I just finished reading it and was coming here to post it. This is simply stupidity. Everything is so overprotective towards children that now they are telling people not to let kids watch old sesame street dvd's? I sick of this shit

[Chigworthy]

Mike you really drink the Kool Aid that Fox and the "Far" right are serving. The NY Times is a great paper. It is the most referenced newspaper for everything. The right and fox use it when it agrees with something they are talking about. But when they write things against the war and against your boy Bush then it becomes a shitty liberal paper (in their eyes).

As for this story, I just finished reading it and was coming here to post it. This is simply stupidity. Everything is so overprotective towards children that now they are telling people not to let kids watch old sesame street dvd's? I sick of this shit

Maybe he wasn't speaking through the lens of politics, but rather referencing the credibility issues that even the NY Times itself acknowledges?

[topless_mike]

Mike you really drink the Kool Aid that Fox and the "Far" right are serving. The NY Times is a great paper. It is the most referenced newspaper for everything. The right and fox use it when it agrees with something they are talking about. But when they write things against the war and against your boy Bush then it becomes a shitty liberal paper (in their eyes).

As for this story, I just finished reading it and was coming here to post it. This is simply stupidity. Everything is so overprotective towards children that now they are telling people not to let kids watch old sesame street dvd's? I sick of this shit

as for "drinking the kool aid", i dont watch fox news. to me, the right is slightly less corrupt than the left, and to be honest, both are worthless.
i like to see things left alone, as they were when i was growing up. i am resistant to change (see team name epic thread), and feel that everybody is "too sensitive" to shit.

my son watches sesame street now, as i did when i was young.

was oscar depressed? no, he was just a grouch.
was bert and ernie gay? no they just lived together.

why do we have to make shit up like this? oh big bird was high, and b/e were gay?.
why cant it be what it is? why cant it just be for kids? why do we have to try to translate it into today's society?

its like saying that the "mona lisa" was a lesbo. no, she was a fucking woman in a painting.

it seems that everyone wants to protect the children. dont do this, dont do that, cant watch this, this is harmful.

want to protect your kid? teach him right from wrong, own up for your actions and handle your business.

its a society that is quite hypocritical: talk about it, say what you feel, but then again, you cant say what you feel because you might offend somebody.

and as for the ny times....
to criticize a president (regardless of party) and/or politician (again, regardless of party) is one thing, but to run the "general be-tray us ad" and personally attack somebody behind the scenes is appauling and offensive and blatently an attack from the left side, no matter how much the left condemns (or condones.. which one is it?) the ad.

the attack on my post is coming...


wait for it....

[topless_mike]

Maybe he wasn't speaking through the lens of politics, but rather referencing the credibility issues that even the NY Times itself acknowledges?

no, i wasnt putting politics in this. just a societal note.



sorry about the rant guys. its just really been a stressfull day at work when i saw that, i lost my mind.

[spadanko]

Sesame Street rocks. I watched it growing up, and my daughter and I watch in the morning before i take her to day care. It is funny, whitty, and has stuff for everyone in there. fuck what ya heard

[Thebazile78]

I read that article too and I was really angry after I'd finished reading it.

Without the early Sesame Street episodes I watched as a child, I wouldn't know who Cab Calloway or Crystal Gayle were, nor would I remember when Snuffleupagus was an imaginary friend or laugh at Monsterpiece Theatre. . .

When Alistair Cooke passed away, I remembered him fondly because by the time I realized that "Monsterpiece Theatre" was a parody of "Masterpiece Theatre" I was old enough to watch it myself.

I mean, without Sesame Street, I wouldn't have known how to deal with a dry-cleaner who messes up your order (c.f. the "Kermit the Gorf" sketch) or get used to the sound of lightning (from Count Von Count.)

A lot of the early episodes were designed to not only engage children with the bright colors, catchy songs (like the "I Like to Sing in the Shower" song) and diverse group of neighbors on Sesame Street, but also to engage their parents . . . who were assumed to be watching right alongside them.

Keep in mind, the real "strictly for adults" show is Jim Henson's other creation - The Muppet Show. . .which I also watched. (And loved.) It's responsible for me knowing who Mark Hamill is and also for knowing the lyrics to the Steven Stills song For What It's Worth.

Virginia Hefferman is usually better than this, but the whole tone of her article was just plain cranky and mean. (And if she comes out later saying "well, it was a social commentary piece" she should be shot.)


Maybe she needs a cookie.

[badmonkey]

The concept of the “inner city” — or “slums,” as The Times bluntly put it in its first review of “Sesame Street” — was therefore transformed into a kind of Xanadu on the show: a bright, no-clouds, clear-air place where people bopped around with monsters and didn’t worry too much about money, cleanliness or projecting false cheer. The Upper West Side, hardly a burned-out ghetto, was said to be the model.

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/w/images/whiteboys-3.jpg

I'm savin up my money so i can move to the ghetto, where everybody just hangs out in their benzes and lexuses rappin...

[spadanko]

I mean seriously... THEY HAD STEVIE ON!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W8lUnI35Sd8

[ralphbxny]

My parents must have been horrible people to me and my brother. Snuffleupacusses are the best!

[cupcakelove]

I wish someone had stepped in and protected me from Sesame street when I was a kid.

[keithy_19]

its like saying that the "mona lisa" was a lesbo. no, she was a fucking woman in a painting.



I always thought of her as a voyuer rather than a lesbian.

And Sesame Street is inbeded in the fabric of America. I mean, Adults Only just screams that you should buy the dvd and watch it while smoking pot.

I'm all for that by the way.

[scottinnj]

Yo, is she getting Sesame Street mixed up with a Dave Chappelle comedy sketch?

http://sfist.com/attachments/sfist_jon/oscar_the_grouch.jpg


Oscar the Grouch!


http://a1.vox.com/6a00c11414f2205af500d09e6ef9a1be2b-120pi

Dave Chappelle's Oscar!

[scottinnj]

I mean seriously... THEY HAD STEVIE ON!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W8lUnI35Sd8


I remember these appearances, the one with Grover I used to sing along with both of them!

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STEVIE ROCKS!

[Ritalin]

What does that mean in the article, where she says the closeted Bert and Ernie.

I don't remember any bits involving a closet.