Are The Wheels Falling Off The Wagon?

[Gvac]

Or is it a temporary bump in the road for the Ron and Fez show?

Fez's problems have been well documented. Earl is on the verge of a full blown nervous breakdown. Pitzy's been getting a lot of criticism lately for not working as hard since he became a paid employee. BronxJohnny and Pepper Hicks are on thin ice since their escapades the night of their 202 show. Dave is a loose cannon.

Is it impending doom for the show, or will the Christmas break prove to be just what the doctor ordered to get the staff back on track again?

[Kevin]

Well, they came out on fire after their 2 weeks or so break.. Especially Fezzie.. I am sure the same thing Will happen again...

[TheGameHHH]

I'm pretty sure its just business as usual, majority of these problems are what makes the show fun.

[Fezticle98]

Dave will always be a loose cannon. Fez will always have problems.

[Bossanova]

The show is as close to breaking as possible, yet they seem to pull out amazng shows. Breaks always help this show and I think a 2 week break would be great.

[Sloppy2nds]

Not the buddays, they're unbreakable. Ronnie is just pushing them to be...

[lleeder]

Breaks always help this show and I think a 2 week break would be great.

How does that make sense? They just had a week off before this past week. If you think the show does well with a break then wouldn't this past week have been problem free.

[Rthentic]

Carnies & Rubes.....I've been listening to the guys since 2001 and sometimes I wonder how much of this great show being directed like a great film. I definitely think if Ron is a quarter as smart as He is on the air, which I'd say is obviously so, than I wouldn't put it past Him to be writing this script.
I'm actually awaiting a cliffhanger right into the ChristMas Break.

Ronny B Taking Radio WithOut Rules Into A New World

That Said, If Ron's neck pain kicks in again, All Hell Is Comign Down

[Bossanova]

How does that make sense? They just had a week off before this past week. If you think the show does well with a break then wouldn't this past week have been problem free.

I said two week breaks help mr smarty pants

[TooLowBrow]

Dave will always be a loose cannon. Fez will always have problems.

earl IS mr. glass

[donnie_darko]

fuck the wagon, the wheels have fallen off, the plane is sliding towards the end of the tarmac on its belly headed for a kindergarten.

i miss fez, i'm listening to him and jdubbs eating white castle burgers, and i can only feel sorry for the guy....faced with his own mortality, fez has spazzed and run off.

next time you listen to the show you should try to time the longest fez silence, we need to start a fez's silence streak of the day thread.

[BoondockSaint]

I hope the wheels coming off the wagon doesn't knock Ron off the wagon.

[patsopinion]

we all know xm doesnt listen to the show
if it mattered to ron then theyd be gone already

[lleeder]

fuck the wagon, the wheels have fallen off, the plane is sliding towards the end of the tarmac on its belly headed for a kindergarten.

i miss fez, i'm listening to him and jdubbs eating white castle burgers, and i can only feel sorry for the guy....faced with his own mortality, fez has spazzed and run off.

next time you listen to the show you should try to time the longest fez silence, we need to start a fez's silence streak of the day thread.

We'll need a stopwatch for that.

[patsopinion]

We'll need a stopwatch for that.

ill be in on the bit

[lleeder]

ill be in on the bit

Do times when a guest is in studio count?

[Marc with a c]

fez is the man that fucker is hilarious.

[patsopinion]

Do times when a guest is in studio count?
its part of the show i say it does count

[King Hippos Bandaid]

nope, as long as Ron is on his game, the show will be fine

all others can be replaced

would I want that, No, but Ron can work with any staff




:king:

[Marc with a c]

We'll need a stopwatch for that.

poopy idea. i dont like it one bit

[patsopinion]

poopy idea. i dont like it one bit

you just dont want to be associated to anything that could be seen as being combative
what if we post the times on wackbag?

[Marc with a c]

you just dont want to be associated to anything that could be seen as being combative
what if we post the times on wackbag?

you can post the times on your dick for all i care.

i don't see the point of it

[PapaBear]

Ron don't need no stinkin' wheels.

[patsopinion]

you can post the times on your dick for all i care.

i don't see the point of it

for some reason when reading you original post i thought u were mikey boy
now i realize that ur not i will continue with my previous plan of action

[Marc with a c]

now i realize that ur not i will continue with my previous plan of action

of stealing somebody elses idea?

[NortonsHeiny]

Dave will always be a loose cannon. Fez will always have problems.

And Earl will always be black.

[Devo37]

fez is the man that fucker is hilarious.

amen, brother!

enough with the negativity, f#ckers!!!

[Chris from TX]

If the wheels haven't come off by now, I don't know why now would be the time. The only thing I see boiling is Earl completely flipping his lid. That's nothing too new.

[watson]

coming soon

the Ron and Anthony show

[BalloonKnotB]

Is it impending doom for the show, or will the Christmas break prove to be just what the doctor ordered to get the staff back on track again?

As long as I've heard of the Ron & Fez show, it has constantly evolved, with its cast of side characters on a heavy rotation. Every one of their problems makes for great radio that I will tune in to day after day. Vacation is always a good thing no matter what the job is.

EDIT: Holy fuck, I even bore myself.

[patsopinion]

coming soon

the Ron and Anthony show

well with cumia's eventual slip into madness i feel like hes not a long term option
and they will try to reason with cumia by sending opie in to comfort and help his friend
waco all over again

the ron and lill jimmy show
with super agent bob eatman as executive producer

[HBox]

Could this thread be an attempt to get on Board Gossip? My spies say......... yessssssssss.

[STC-Dub]

How do you and why would you have a satellite radio show on a wagon?

[PapaBear]

How do you and why would you have a satellite radio show on a wagon?
Because you led an interesting but dangerous life, and you managed to save yourself, so others could reap the benefits of your experiences, as you made shit loads of money.

[patsopinion]

How do you and why would you have a satellite radio show on a wagon?

is that how they are launching the new satellite
if there are going to be horses involved then im going to be pissed

[TheGameHHH]

Could this thread be an attempt to get on Board Gossip? My spies say......... yessssssssss.

that was the first thing i thought of when i read the topic, but i didnt wanna insult Gvac by saying that. so now im just gonna agree with you, that way im not directly insulting my buddy. plus i dont think Gvac was purposely doing it for board gossip, it just would make a great board gossip topic. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[drjoek]

How do you and why would you have a satellite radio show on a wagon?

So that you can the phone number for Wrecking Bomb to fade unwanted tattoos.
Or to learn how to control your unrully child in 8 minutes or less

[drjoek]

The Wheel
---------
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
you can't let go and you can't hold on,
you can't go back and you can't stand still,
if the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will.
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Round, round robin run round, gotta get back where you belong,
little bit harder, just a little bit more,
a little bit harder than ya gone before.
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
you can't let go and you can't hold on,
you can't go back and you can't stand still,
if the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will.
Small wheel turnin' by the fire in the rod,
big wheel turn by the grace of God,
every time that wheel turn round,
bound to cover just a little more ground.
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
you can't let go and you can't hold on,
you can't go back and you can't stand still,
if the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will.
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
couldn't you try just a little bit more?

[RAAMONE]

next time you listen to the show you should try to time the longest fez silence, we need to start a fez's silence streak of the day thread.

as much as everyone bitches about being negative about the show on this board ...you want to start a negative thread about fez? i see a vacation in your future...dave sucks

[Earlshog]

fuck the wagon, the wheels have fallen off, the plane is sliding towards the end of the tarmac on its belly headed for a kindergarten.

i miss fez, i'm listening to him and jdubbs eating white castle burgers, and i can only feel sorry for the guy....faced with his own mortality, fez has spazzed and run off.

next time you listen to the show you should try to time the longest fez silence, we need to start a fez's silence streak of the day thread.


Starvin....

[mikeyboy]

Or is it a temporary bump in the road for the Ron and Fez show?

Fez's problems have been well documented. Earl is on the verge of a full blown nervous breakdown. Pitzy's been getting a lot of criticism lately for not working as hard since he became a paid employee. BronxJohnny and Pepper Hicks are on thin ice since their escapades the night of their 202 show. Dave is a loose cannon.

Is it impending doom for the show, or will the Christmas break prove to be just what the doctor ordered to get the staff back on track again?

Why now? Dave has been a loose cannon since he started at the beginning of last year. Earl has been close to the edge at various times since starting with the XM show. Fez's problems have been well documented since his heart attack over 2 years ago. Sure, Pitzy's in hot water now, but he's never been a major force on the air, and they did the show just fine without someone in his role before he came along. The only other wrinkle is Hicks and Johnny in hot water with XM for the Saturday night High Society show, but that really seems so ancillary that I don't see it as much as a factor. The show is a tad dysfunctional, but as long as Ron is at the wheel, it will be fine.

you just dont want to be associated to anything that could be seen as being combative
what if we post the times on wackbag?

I kind of agree with Marc. It is a dumb idea. It has nothing to do with not wanting to be associated with something that appears combative. What is the point exactly? Fez gets quiet sometimes. We all know this. We really don't need proof. The only effect I can see is that it just makes Fez more subconscious about these periods, and hence even more silent. Being "the guy who times the periods between when Fez speaks" really seems like a naked plea for attention from the show though.

[ralphbxny]

They will be back...they always come back!!

[chubbyknuckles]

So a site completely devoted to The Ron and Fez show, and it's fans, should just start ripping it apart?! Have you noticed its not perfect all the time? Just enjoy it, and if you don't, tune in something else.

[RAAMONE]

I kind of agree with Marc. It is a dumb idea. It has nothing to do with not wanting to be associated with something that appears combative. What is the point exactly? Fez gets quiet sometimes. We all know this. We really don't need proof. The only effect I can see is that it just makes Fez more subconscious about these periods, and hence even more silent. Being "the guy who times the periods between when Fez speaks" really seems like a naked plea for attention from the show though.

fez has been a little quiet lately but i dont think it has affected the show at all...if anything he has been having better lines since being in the other room...this is also why i dont get the negativity towards dave...if you hadnt noticed it has seemed to be the ron and dave show lately as far as air time goes...if dave wouldnt be there to step in when fez has his bad days the show would really suffer...overall great show no matter what is going on with them personally...they still seem to make everything interesting...negative or positive

[Don Stugots]

So a site completely devoted to The Ron and Fez show, and it's fans, should just start ripping it apart?! Have you noticed its not perfect all the time? Just enjoy it, and if you don't, tune in something else.

chubby is my new favorite poster. Sorry Peachy.

[drjoek]

I kind of agree with Marc. It is a dumb idea. It has nothing to do with not wanting to be associated with something that appears combative. What is the point exactly? Fez gets quiet sometimes. We all know this. We really don't need proof. The only effect I can see is that it just makes Fez more subconscious about these periods, and hence even more silent. Being "the guy who times the periods between when Fez speaks" really seems like a naked plea for attention from the show though.

Man patsopinion gets one mention in Board gossip and it goes right to his head:thumbdown:

[A.J.]

Does the Wheel In the Sky keep turning?

http://futility.typepad.com/futility/images/bandpicjourney.jpg

[Heather 8]

chubby is my new favorite poster. Sorry Peachy.

Fine. Your blood is no longer under my protection.

[Don Stugots]

Fine. Your blood is no longer under my protection.

OHS NOOOOOOS!

[reillyluck]

Carnies & Rubes



hahahaha....is it me or did this guy call Gvac a carney and a rube?

phucking phunny, dude!

[TheMojoPin]

hahahaha....is it me or did this guy call Gvac a carney and a rube?

phucking phunny, dude!

Obviously not.

Ron would be the carny; Gvac is only the rube.













































WADDLE-DEE-SCHMACKEDY-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[boeman]

really seems like a naked plea for attention from the show though.


hot, can we get pictures?

[chubbyknuckles]

OHS NOOOOOOS!

DUDE, for GOD'S SAKE, you gotta know, DON'T CROSS PEACHY!:surrender:

[Heather 8]

DUDE, for GOD'S SAKE, you gotta know, DON'T CROSS PEACHY!:surrender:

See, chubbyknuckles knows. :thumbup:

[NortonRules]

Ron and Anthony show. Jan 2nd, 2008. ESD as 3rd mic.
It'll happen eventually.

[chubbyknuckles]

See, chubbyknuckles knows. :thumbup:

Oh I'ze know miss peachy,lordie i'ze knows

[Tears]

It only stands to reason that the show would eventually derail. I mean all those 2 hour workdays and 3 months off a year must really wear you the fuck out. Throw in being worn out by NOT doing any production and you have a recipe for disaster.

[chubbyknuckles]

It only stands to reason that the show would eventually derail. I mean all those 2 hour workdays and 3 months off a year must really wear you the fuck out. Throw in being worn out by NOT doing any production and you have a recipe for disaster.

You might want to head on over to:

www. Jealousatpeoplewithbetterjobsthanme.com

[Tears]

You might want to head on over to:

www. Jealousatpeoplewithbetterjobsthanme.com

Is that a site where people with the best jobs in the world sit around and talk about how depressed/stressed they are?

[chubbyknuckles]

Is that a site where people with the best jobs in the world sit around and talk about how depressed/stressed they are?

nope, thats my blog, but i don't think you'd enjoy it all that much.


But i've gotta ask why you sign up to talk on a site that, if ya didn't notice, might be fans of the show? Sex life not going that well?

[deliciousV]

Bobo's tears are exceptionally salty today.

[TheMojoPin]

Bobo's tears are exceptionally salty today.

Oh my God, that is hysterical.

[patsopinion]

hot, can we get pictures?

aaaalright
as long as the gawking and heckling remains tasteful

[Knowledged_one]

nope, as long as Ron is on his game, the show will be fine

all others can be replaced

would I want that, No, but Ron can work with any staff




:king:

Oh yeah ask Moe if he could work with Don and Mike

:king:

[reillyluck]

I must admit....i immediately thought this thread was about gvacs jeep.

[mikeyboy]

Oh yeah ask Moe if he could work with Don and Mike

:king:

He and Fez both killed any time they interacted with that show.

[Gvac]

I must admit....i immediately thought this thread was about gvacs jeep.

When are you getting home? :nono:

[reillyluck]

When are you getting home? :nono:

:lol: come on...you loffed. admit it.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Fez had been a bit quieter but when he does speak his quips from behind the glass have been great. Not counting the Thanksgiving show, when was the last time he cried? This time last year you could count on it a couple times a week. If there's a problem with the show, Fez is the least of our worries.

[TrevorDodds]

i have to totally agree. fezzie behind the glass has been histerical. the best part of the show lately is listening to his wise-ass comments back there, half of which seemingly go unoticed. also, the whole earl breakdown thing is what makes the show great. you have fez who is a mess but fucking hilarious, dave who is a loose cannon and possibly retarded, and then earl who is constantly berated and shit on. add in a collection of ridiculous interns who each bring great problems and you have the best show ever. i think it is worth mentioning that ron seems to hate firing people however, he loves fucking with them until they have a meltdown and eventually quit, i.e. staples and dukes.

[Devo37]

I must admit....i immediately thought this thread was about gvacs jeep.

LOTD!!! :laugh:

[mahoney]

I've been listening since wnew, and I love the shows now more than ever. As much as I feel for everyone but Ron on the show at certain points, the honesty they display is pretty amazing. As I listen to Fez and Dave struggle with certain things, it is interesting to think about impermanence as one of the most core components of religions like Buddhism.

[Chigworthy]

Reilly seems like a naked plea for attention from the show though.

hot, can we get pictures?

[Golfman]

No wheels are falling off the show, just trust Ron, he'll guide us to the promiseland!

[Don Stugots]

:lol: come on...you loffed. admit it.

i did. HAHAHAA.

[Gvac]

:lol: come on...you loffed. admit it.

I must admit....i immediately thought this thread was about gvacs jeep.

i did. HAHAHAA.

No topless ride for you this spring.

I hope you're happy.

[MobCounty]

Or is it a temporary bump in the road for the Ron and Fez show?

Fez's problems have been well documented. Earl is on the verge of a full blown nervous breakdown. Pitzy's been getting a lot of criticism lately for not working as hard since he became a paid employee. BronxJohnny and Pepper Hicks are on thin ice since their escapades the night of their 202 show. Dave is a loose cannon.

Is it impending doom for the show, or will the Christmas break prove to be just what the doctor ordered to get the staff back on track again?

Or is it just RADIO GOLD!!...

[Hottub]

No topless ride for you this spring.

I hope you're happy.

What do you have against Mike and Pat?

[Stankfoot]

The only effect I can see is that it just makes Fez more subconscious about these periods, and hence even more silent.....

Well, we wouldn't want Fez gettin' all subconscious on us, now would we?

[mikeyboy]

Well, we wouldn't want Fez gettin' all subconscious on us, now would we?

Ugh.

[Don Stugots]

No topless ride for you this spring.

I hope you're happy.

I will take my top off if i want to. the chest hair needs to get air too.

[comp_atkins]

fez is non existant now. its like he's a producer now in the backround and occasionally ron will go to him.. its more the ron and dave show at this point...

[BoarsHeadRob]

fez is non existant now. its like he's a producer now in the backround and occasionally ron will go to him.. its more the ron and dave show at this point...

Dave has a much more reliable heart at this point

[Death Metal Moe]

Ron has fuckin' piloted his radio show through multiple city moves, on air fights, suspensions, firings and at least one huge terror attack.

You think this fucking shit is gonna phase him? He's a God amongst men.

He'll lean back, take a long drag off that cigar and deliver golden show after golden show until he decides to call it quits.

[Gvac]

The wheels may not be falling off, but can we at least agree that there's a flat tire?

Or at the very least, the wagon needs a wheel alignment.

[Chris from TX]

The wheels may not be falling off, but can we at least agree that there's a flat tire?

Or at the very least, the wagon needs a wheel alignment.

Never!!!

[moochcassidy]

The wheels may not be falling off, but can we at least agree that there's a flat tire?

Or at the very least, the wagon needs a wheel alignment.

earl (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=slow+puncture&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)

[yesican]

there is only 1 solution to this more Big AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA::thumbup:

[Gvac]

It was almost an hour into today's show before anyone noticed Fez wasn't there. And you people all think there's nothing wrong?

Must be nice.

They do say that ignorance is bliss, though.


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s109/GregRotten/EmperorsNewClothes.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Gvac, why are you trying to kill Fez?

[Chris from TX]

I'm probably more ignorant of the show; started listening when they started with XM. If Fez needs some time behind the glass, I don't have a problem with it. Didn't hear today's show yet, but he has thrown out some good lines recently.

I'll wait til I have at least 500 posts to be anymore negative than that, so as to not compound the negative-newbie role.

[Heather 8]

It was almost an hour into today's show before anyone noticed Fez wasn't there. And you people all think there's nothing wrong?

Must be nice.

They do say that ignorance is bliss, though.


Why do you insist on smudging my rose-colored lenses, whitey?

[Gvac]

Gvac, why are you trying to kill Fez?

Nothing could be further from the truth, I assure you. Rather, I'm concerned that Fez isn't receiving the help and attention he needs.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I think it's refreshing that they (and by "they", I mean Ron) is open and upfront about the show and their lives just teetering on the edge of being a big hairy train wreck. I mean really, aren't we all pretty much right there on that precipice with them anyway? Misery loves company. Besides, if you had to live your life on a radio show, wouldn't it pretty much be like Big Ass 202 ? (Except without the funny) We all have our own Daves', Fezzies', and Earls' in our lives don't we?

So NO, 2008 is going to be a banner year for the R&F show no matter what !

[Don Stugots]

Nothing could be further from the truth, I assure you. Rather, I'm concerned that Fez isn't receiving the help and attention he needs.

i feel the same way. there is not a day that goes by that I dont say a little prayer for him.

[drjoek]

It was almost an hour into today's show before anyone noticed Fez wasn't there. And you people all think there's nothing wrong?

Must be nice.

They do say that ignorance is bliss, though.


[/IMG]

Please tell me that was a bit today, that they didnt notice Fez wasn't there. It couldnt be otherwise.
On another note the show sure seemed to lack any zip today. The show can't consist of Ron telling stories and Dave agreeing with him constantly.

[sailor]

i feel the same way. there is not a day that goes by that I dont say a little prayer for him.

forever, forever, he'll stay in your heart?

[FarAway]

I think it's refreshing that they (and by "they", I mean Ron) is open and upfront about the show and their lives just teetering on the edge of being a big hairy train wreck. I mean really, aren't we all pretty much right there on that precipice with them anyway? Misery loves company. Besides, if you had to live your life on a radio show, wouldn't it pretty much be like Big Ass 202 ? (Except without the funny) We all have our own Daves', Fezzies', and Earls' in our lives don't we?



I'm actually enjoying the show a lot more now.

Fez is useless, and if he needs to hide behind glass to make himself feel better about depositing his checks and using the insurance, that's fine.

I don't think he's even in the same galaxy as Ron talent wise and is a poor partner. So the less talk from Fez the better IMO.

Dave is at least Dave and generates fun one way or the other.

Earl is also useless and if he wants to go down in flames in a city surrounded with some of the best doctors in the world, then let him.

[drjoek]

I'm actually enjoying the show a lot more now.

Fez is useless, and if he needs to hide behind glass to make himself feel better about depositing his checks and using the insurance, that's fine.

I don't think he's even in the same galaxy as Ron talent wise and is a poor partner. So the less talk from Fez the better IMO.

Dave is at least Dave and generates fun one way or the other.

Earl is also useless and if he wants to go down in flames in a city surrounded with some of the best doctors in the world, then let him.


:furious::furious:

[Don Stugots]

forever, forever, he'll stay in your heart?

YAY! some one picked up on one of my references. Now if only someone gets the little abner one, i will die happy.

[Marc with a c]

YAY! some one picked up on one of my references. Now if only someone gets the little abner one, i will die happy.

everybody got it hairy back.

sailor is the only dullard willing to jump at it.

[Don Stugots]

everybody got it hairy back.

sailor is the only dullard willing to jump at it.

words hurt too you know.

[TheMojoPin]

Quickly, someone pay attention to STUGOTS.

STUGOTS!!!

[Don Stugots]

Quickly, someone pay attention to STUGOTS.

STUGOTS!!!

that is not what i meant. why is your hand on my ass?

[TheMojoPin]

Because you sat on it and won't stand up.

[Don Stugots]

Because you sat on it and won't stand up.

oh. i wouldnt sniff your hands for a few hours, the veganism gives me the gases.

[TheMojoPin]

oh. i wouldnt sniff your hands for a few hours, my vejayjay gives off the swamp gases.

Duly noted.

[BenFromIowa]

from a newer listeners standpoint (lil over 1 yr in)... i dont know whether to think some of you older fans are nitpicking, or i missed out on some mind blowingly great radio. i guess it's a little of both. my main point is on fez.. i think part of what's great about fez's dynamic right now, when he shows up, is that while he doesn't always say alot, what he does say is usually golden. the quality vs quantity thing. he'll also slip stuff in and it sort of gets overlooked, so it's almost like an inside joke with the listener. one of my other favorite things about the show is the kerouac style of blending truth and entertainment. something tells me that's as present now as it ever was. brilliance doesnt fade, it just looks for new avenues. also, ron is a radio architect. dave is raw hilarity. earl puts a new spin on the straight man, both in comedy and love life. lil is at arms length. pitz is great off the bench and has suggested atleast a gig of the music on my ipod.

a few cents from a noob.

[TrevorDodds]

what the hell has pitz suggested for your ipod? i hope you mean hicks.

[Chigworthy]

from a newer listeners standpoint (lil over 1 yr in)... i dont know whether to think some of you older fans are nitpicking, or i missed out on some mind blowingly great radio. i guess it's a little of both. my main point is on fez.. i think part of what's great about fez's dynamic right now, when he shows up, is that while he doesn't always say alot, what he does say is usually golden. the quality vs quantity thing. he'll also slip stuff in and it sort of gets overlooked, so it's almost like an inside joke with the listener. one of my other favorite things about the show is the kerouac style of blending truth and entertainment. something tells me that's as present now as it ever was. brilliance doesnt fade, it just looks for new avenues. also, ron is a radio architect. dave is raw hilarity. earl puts a new spin on the straight man, both in comedy and love life. lil is at arms length. pitz is great off the bench and has suggested atleast a gig of the music on my ipod.

a few cents from a noob.

This thread's not really about the show, it's more about Gvac trying to get on board gossip.

[TrevorDodds]

also, what is earls new spin on the straight man? is that what he is doing when he pretends he likes chicks for 3 hours than goes back to his normal man loving self.

i have to agree about the board gossip line above. we should rename board gossip, "who can sit up the longest and create a topic they think ron or dave might like to talk about on air."

[BenFromIowa]

yes, hicks.


and i guess earl is more a unique character than a comedic innovator.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I'm actually enjoying the show a lot more now.

Fez is useless, and if he needs to hide behind glass to make himself feel better about depositing his checks and using the insurance, that's fine.

I don't think he's even in the same galaxy as Ron talent wise and is a poor partner. So the less talk from Fez the better IMO.

Dave is at least Dave and generates fun one way or the other.

Earl is also useless and if he wants to go down in flames in a city surrounded with some of the best doctors in the world, then let him.
Sorry, I gotta disagree... Ron is THE MAN no doubt, but Fezzie is the bee's knees in my book. (If I wasn't married I might consider going asexual for him:lol:). All he has to do is make a funny quip every now and again in between his anxiety drama and I am fine. They are a team and its just a good fit, the team (yes even Dave and Earl) are much more than the sum of their parts.

[ahhdurr]

I wonder how much of this great show being directed like a great film.

I quote the great Anthony Cumia dismissing some previous concern "... that show's like wrestling anyway."

[watson]

this writers strike is terrible

[rckiller]

As long as Ronnie has the stamina to hold it together he is always entertaining. But if he is really as pissed as he sounds about the lack of production I can't believe that they haven't gone out and got a real whiz kid to take up the slack there.

[Gvac]

I'm really starting to worry about the state of the Ron and Fez show. I know full well that tomorrow they'll come on the air bright eyed, bushy tailed, and united, but you can tell just how frustrated Ron is, especially after today's debacle.

Enjoy the show while you can, kids.

It's on life support as we speak.

[AKA]

I'm really starting to worry about the state of the Ron and Fez show. I know full well that tomorrow they'll come on the air bright eyed, bushy tailed, and united, but you can tell just how frustrated Ron is, especially after today's debacle.

Enjoy the show while you can, kids.

It's on life support as we speak.

No - no - no - I disagree. These things always happen at times (we later learn) when off-air, out-of-their-control bat-shit stuff is going down, and it always calms itself out into the mix. TODAY'S show not with standing, things have actually been pretty cool, lately. Fezzie has had some hysterical moments - Dave got his ass peed on - Ron just never stops with the funny as shit lines - they've got an appearance coming up. If I were someone who read between the lines (haha), I'd think that there was something more to these new weekend broadcasts, coupled with the timing of an announcement of a merger looming - might be a little stressful, and it might be they are enjoying these as Salad Days 2.0 - ride it out, big man - but I (personally) heard nothing to launch this into "life support" mode.

[smiler grogan]

Earl
must
go!

[Gvac]

No - no - no - I disagree. These things always happen at times (we later learn) when off-air, out-of-their-control bat-shit stuff is going down, and it always calms itself out into the mix. TODAY'S show not with standing, things have actually been pretty cool, lately. Fezzie has had some hysterical moments - Dave got his ass peed on - Ron just never stops with the funny as shit lines - they've got an appearance coming up. If I were someone who read between the lines (haha), I'd think that there was something more to these new weekend broadcasts, coupled with the timing of an announcement of a merger looming - might be a little stressful, and it might be they are enjoying these as Salad Days 2.0 - ride it out, big man - but I (personally) heard nothing to launch this into "life support" mode.

I hope you're right, AKA, but tensions seem to be at an all time high.

It's a little scary.

Earl
must
go!

I couldn't agree more. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48674)

[chubbyknuckles]

I'm really starting to worry about the state of the Ron and Fez show. I know full well that tomorrow they'll come on the air bright eyed, bushy tailed, and united, but you can tell just how frustrated Ron is, especially after today's debacle.

Enjoy the show while you can, kids.

It's on life support as we speak.

G-vac a doubter? Say it aint so. Look, the show may have a rough patch, production wise, and that's what the prob is, ealr will go, then we'll see some new guy bustin his ass, all ron wants is a little help. Nice guy or not, earl's a fuckin mess and can't keep that job.

[sailor]

i don't think ron wants anyone to succeed in that job.

[drjoek]

While Dave played that silly keyboard like a chimp this afternoon all I could think of was this
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"Nearer, my God, to Thee" is traditionally associated with the RMS Titanic, as passengers reported that the ship's band played the hymn as the Titanic sank.

[Gvac]

Keep on fiddling, RonFez.net.

Rome is burning.

[Chris from TX]

The show is on an high note after that new piano bit.

[Heather 8]

Wheeeeeee, ho down!

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[Gvac]

The show on Friday, February 15th was painful. Seriously painful.

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

Ron bringing up on the air that the XM brass had brought up the problems with Fez and the show kind of stung too.

All is not rosy in R&F land, and anyone who thinks "it's all part of the bit" or "Ron's brilliance is turning shit into shinola" isn't listening very carefully. There are real problems.

As a die hard fan of this show (and Ron and Fez themselves) I hope they get resolved soon.

Very, very soon.

[MobCounty]

Sit back and enjoy the show. :smoke:

[underdog]

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

I was wondering who it was that Earl wanted on that Ron and Fez didn't. Then I heard the Vernon Reid interview.

[silas]

The show on Friday, February 15th was painful. Seriously painful.

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

Ron bringing up on the air that the XM brass had brought up the problems with Fez and the show kind of stung too.

All is not rosy in R&F land, and anyone who thinks "it's all part of the bit" or "Ron's brilliance is turning shit into shinola" isn't listening very carefully. There are real problems.

As a die hard fan of this show (and Ron and Fez themselves) I hope they get resolved soon.

Very, very soon.


As too many of us probably know from first hand experience, pre-merger time is very,very dangerous ground;

I'm guessing that the R+F extra shows, disappearance of "hayseed" trashing, less tolerance for insider bravosierra, RB's steady reminders to get back on track are a reflection of this.

[drjoek]

The show on Friday, February 15th was painful. Seriously painful.

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

Ron bringing up on the air that the XM brass had brought up the problems with Fez and the show kind of stung too.

All is not rosy in R&F land, and anyone who thinks "it's all part of the bit" or "Ron's brilliance is turning shit into shinola" isn't listening very carefully. There are real problems.

As a die hard fan of this show (and Ron and Fez themselves) I hope they get resolved soon.

Very, very soon.


The show cant be about fixing the problems in the staff all the time.
Earl Sucks at everything,Dave wont stop talking and crushes Fez's involvement, Everyone else stands around looking at their shoes. These are things that should be taken care of at staff meetings OFF the AIR, they are not THE show. Maybe I'm doesn't get the bit guy, but the show is a radio show its not the radio version of The Office

A telling quote from Ron. "The brass said This isn't the show we hired you for."

[MadMatt]

The show on Friday, February 15th was painful. Seriously painful.

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

Ron bringing up on the air that the XM brass had brought up the problems with Fez and the show kind of stung too.

All is not rosy in R&F land, and anyone who thinks "it's all part of the bit" or "Ron's brilliance is turning shit into shinola" isn't listening very carefully. There are real problems.

As a die hard fan of this show (and Ron and Fez themselves) I hope they get resolved soon.

Very, very soon.

I simply do not understand how Earl has a freaking job. It is goddamn mind boggling.

OK - XM doesn't have to fire Earl outright, but at least move him to a music channel. That is more his speed (theoretically).

I just wish there was something I could do to help Ron & Fez. Other than listening to the show religiously, I don't know what else to do.

IMO, if Ron & Fez need to fire everybody and do a "reset" of the show, then so be it. Run 'Best Of' shows for a couple of weeks (that somebody other than Earl picks), train a new staff, and come back with a refreshed show.

And I'm not saying they have to clear out EVERYBODY, but definitely ditch the dead weight and pull in some reliable professionals.

EDIT: It's all about Ron & Fez enjoying their show, being comfortable, and being relaxed enough to entertain their audience on a daily basis. I am behind them doing whatever they feel is necessary to make that happen.

[Gvac]

As too many of us probably know from first hand experience, pre-merger time is very,very dangerous ground;

I'm guessing that the R+F extra shows, disappearance of "hayseed" trashing, less tolerance for insider bravosierra, RB's steady reminders to get back on track are a reflection of this.

Someone's paying attention.

That's why I'm so worried.

Like I said, I'm a fanatical fan of this show and the men it's named after. It brings me no pleasure to point out the shortcomings as of late, but I just have to vent my frustrations and fears.

[NortonRules]

The show on Friday, February 15th was painful. Seriously painful.

Vernon Reid is more impressed with himself than anyone I can ever remember hearing, and that author almost made me wish Vernon was back in studio. Absolutely AWFUL job of booking guests.

Ron bringing up on the air that the XM brass had brought up the problems with Fez and the show kind of stung too.

All is not rosy in R&F land, and anyone who thinks "it's all part of the bit" or "Ron's brilliance is turning shit into shinola" isn't listening very carefully. There are real problems.

As a die hard fan of this show (and Ron and Fez themselves) I hope they get resolved soon.

Very, very soon.

I agree with what you wrote above, but I've been listening to their old shows from WNEW and WJFK. Those 'highlights' mostly sucked, too. Really corny stuff. I think the show now is better than ever. At least nowadays they can honestly address stuff on the air and I find that interesting and compelling. I also don't think that Ron's doing everything he can to help Fez. He talks over and ignores great lines from Fez. I think Ron stopped listening to Fez altogether.

PS - I'm a jazz musician and I found Vernon Reid's jazz talk early in the interview very dull. And the music they played him in with really sucked. It convinced me that I'll never see him live or buy a CD. Worst track ever.

[Team_Ramrod]

I love the show; but yeah, I get frustrated with some of the shit that goes down on the air.
Ron and Fez could probably benefit from a complete overhaul.

Either way I'll continue to listen and keep my XM on all day and night tuned into 202.....



Until the mislead loyalties lead them to be dropped during the merger.

[silas]

I agree with what you wrote above, but I've been listening to their old shows from WNEW and WJFK. Those 'highlights' mostly sucked, too. Really corny stuff. I think the show now is better than ever. At least nowadays they can honestly address stuff on the air and I find that interesting and compelling. I also don't think that Ron's doing everything he can to help Fez. He talks over and ignores great lines from Fez. I think Ron stopped listening to Fez altogether..

As RB has mentioned many times, comedy is very much "of it's time".

I also find that there is often a "zoo"-ey tone to some of the older stuff (alot of we-are-so-wackey!, every line guffaws, too loud-and-loud, pumpupthevolume to eleven for no reason, Sternesque shockjockery and stunts-i still don't understand tats and haircuts)....but hey, pre-internet (for me) , a topless babe OVER-THE-RADIO was neat-o!

But i disagree w/ "mostly"; certainly wrt 'highlights"= Alot of witty segments,bits and brilliantly prepped pieces....and the sardonic commentary i still luvs.

Sadly, i do somewhat agree w/the Ron-Fez comment:but my take is that RB has naturally gotten increasingly frustrated; as Ron has often mentioned, when we become a caregiver to a loved one ( like a sick parent, spouse...) there is the growing lack of patience.

[The Thadd]

I have only had the pleasure of listening since they came to XM, but in that time they have become my single favorite form of entertainment, with all of television and other radio and even internet, I prefer the Buddays over everything. This whole merger BS is negatively effecting too much quality programming. But, whatever keeps R&F on the air for a longer period of time is what I want, be that merger or no.

[TheMojoPin]

I also find that there is often a "zoo"-ey tone to some of the older stuff (alot of we-are-so-wackey!, every line guffaws, too loud-and-loud, pumpupthevolume to eleven for no reason, Sternesque shockjockery and stunts-i still don't understand tats and haircuts)....but hey, pre-internet (for me) , a topless babe OVER-THE-RADIO was neat-o!

Why are we talking about O&A?

[thepaulo]

This will no longer be a wagon with wheels.....
it is being retrofitted as a hovercraft.......
and it will also be submersible.....

[FUNKMAN]

This will no longer be a wagon with wheels.....
it is being retrofitted as a hovercraft.......
and it will also be submersible.....

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[Marc with a c]

I really like the ron and fez show.

[Gvac]

I really like the ron and fez show.

Me too.

In fact, I love it.

[thepaulo]

been a fan of Ron and Fez also since day 73.

[Marc with a c]

Me too.

In fact, I love it.

Why don't you marry it?

[NortonRules]

As RB has mentioned many times, comedy is very much "of it's time".

I also find that there is often a "zoo"-ey tone to some of the older stuff (alot of we-are-so-wackey!, every line guffaws, too loud-and-loud, pumpupthevolume to eleven for no reason, Sternesque shockjockery and stunts-i still don't understand tats and haircuts)....but hey, pre-internet (for me) , a topless babe OVER-THE-RADIO was neat-o!

But i disagree w/ "mostly"; certainly wrt 'highlights"= Alot of witty segments,bits and brilliantly prepped pieces....and the sardonic commentary i still luvs.

Sadly, i do somewhat agree w/the Ron-Fez comment:but my take is that RB has naturally gotten increasingly frustrated; as Ron has often mentioned, when we become a caregiver to a loved one ( like a sick parent, spouse...) there is the growing lack of patience.

I agree about "of it's time". R&F have progressed, O&A have progressed. Their ideas of what is hip change with time. Musicians do the same.

I still love today's show. I don't mind the internal stuff they talk about, but I do realize there's a problem. Honestly, I think that Fez might feel he doesn't fit into the current show (since it has changed since coming to XM). The show was always intelligent, but Fez could contribute more with the written out bits (he's an AMAZING writer), and the phone calls (jan, andre, etc...), and the flamboyant angle. The current show is more about lengthy discussions that involve making a point and backing it up with a lot of ideas (since they don't have to break every 20 minutes). Everytime they do that, Ron cross examines Fez and makes him look not-so-intelligent. It's a tough situation. Ron can't just agree with Fez and placate him. It's tough. Fez can't become a deep thinker like Ron overnight.

[Billy Staples]

i have to totally agree. fezzie behind the glass has been histerical. the best part of the show lately is listening to his wise-ass comments back there, half of which seemingly go unoticed. also, the whole earl breakdown thing is what makes the show great. you have fez who is a mess but fucking hilarious, dave who is a loose cannon and possibly retarded, and then earl who is constantly berated and shit on. add in a collection of ridiculous interns who each bring great problems and you have the best show ever. i think it is worth mentioning that ron seems to hate firing people however, he loves fucking with them until they have a meltdown and eventually quit, i.e. staples and dukes.

Staples never quit anything,especially the Ron and Fez Show. Please in the future get that right and don't always attach Staples to Al Dukes who is a quitter, a horrible athlete with no intestinal fortitude and who has survived only as the cockroach will a nuclear war. The only difference is Mr. Dukes will do this by kissing and lubing up a larger more powerful cockroach in the cockroach corporate ladder and curl up inside his ass with his little cockroach tongue kissing all the way up.. I'm sorry, but my successes (Ron and Fez show) or failures ( not enough room OK, I get it) are what I hang my hat on. Not the bigger cockroach's asshole..

Just all remember, that Staples never quit and never said no to anything regarding a Ron and Fez show discussion. (disregarding a phone call pre-X/M from an X/m member of management, Mr. something, I apologetically don't recall the gentleman's name. This call was to pretty much say hello, appease interests and advise me that the show was already cast with a stellar high paid lineup of a former intern and Earl) So in retrospect, I forgive the possible unfamiliarity with the true past, but as many, including the well respected Sir not appearing in this film GVAC will attest to as being the truth that:Staples didn't quit Shit!

(unfortunately time has a way of altering the facts. Like damn, Wild Thing #3 was so great on the air I wish we heard more, so much more. What a waste. Oh well.)

(Why do I love Parentheses and comma's so much I use them inappropriately I know. My website guru ( the aforementioned and well known and amazingly talented web site doer guy, the Remote Producer) on WWW.TheDowJokesReport.com always looks for grammatical errors in my writing between guffaws.

Shameless, you bet your ass, but a quitter...You can't handle the truth
(Staples in his audition for "A Few Good Men". next, my audition in "Pulp Fiction" scene regarding keeping a watch hidden for years)

as always..Ramble on

with

Staples

(what a great name for a blog, if I didn't lose all senses yet

Sig pic needed for..There is nothing quite like the sound of a full bottle of pills right from the drug store!

and

they say alcohol is just a liquid form of narcotic pills. So fuck off, leave me alone, I'm still not drinking!!!

[Billy Staples]

Aren't Matty, Moe and ?...I don't remember part of the Pep Boys or something?


or is it so obvious that only I'm the one who had to ask



wait, Manny Moe and Jack. thats it....so where they the Pep boys anyway?


shit, i was close....Oh well...just came to me, so why didn't I erase this msg? hmmmmm

Staples

[NortonRules]

Aren't Matty, Moe and ?...I don't remember part of the Pep Boys or something?


or is it so obvious that only I'm the one who had to ask



wait, Manny Moe and Jack. thats it....so where they the Pep boys anyway?


shit, i was close....Oh well...just came to me, so why didn't I erase this msg? hmmmmm

Staples

this is the most frightening thing i've ever read.

[danner1515]

Actually, aside from a few iffy shows, I think they've been a little more on track so far in 2008. It seems like they actually aren't going out of their way to have the most inside show on national radio anymore. I've noticed a lot fewer message board and Paltalk discussions, which to me is what's really hurt the show over the past year or so. I know I'm a bit out of the loop, not living in the NY/Jersey area, but I cringe whenever I hear there's a show-related party coming up because I know it means they're going to spend an hour of every show leading up to the event talking about it. Blah.

[Gvac]

Let's be honest; the dynamic of the show has changed vastly since Fez's first heart attack.

Dave has filled in to the best of his ability, but he's still not in perfect sync. As someone hired for comic relief and his innate lunacy, Ron and Fez have also tried to cultivate Dave into something more, a third mic if you will. He still struggles with his role, though, as he's been forced more and more into being second mic as Fez struggles with his problems.

Often Dave will go for a serious response when Ron is looking for comedy, and vice versa. I don't fault Dave, but I think Ron expected a little more professionalism from him by this point. His frustration is only exacerbated when you throw in his inability to rely on his co-host or his producer.

Like I said, I take no joy in examining this show so deeply and pointing out its flaws. It's only because I care so much that I want to see it get back on track in some way, shape, or form.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Like I said, I take no joy in examining this show so deeply and pointing out its flaws. It's only because I care so much that I want to see it get back on track in some way, shape, or form.

That's great, but outside your constant criticism, I haven't seen any SUGGESTIONS from you outside of firing Earl.

So we'll open the floor. You've consistently criticized the show. What have you got to add?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Here's my point.

BOTH shows have changed drastically since 2002. And Gvac, if you think the problems started with Fez's first heart attack, you aren't listening close enough. It started in DC, not once they got to XM.

We must ACCEPT that the shows will not go back to what they were in 2002. Just like Howard's show was at it's peak with West and MArtling, you'll never capture that lightning in a bottle again.

The problems people see are the following:

1) Earl
2) Timeslot
3) Callers.

Callers and timeslot are tied to each other.

But what else is out there? What other suggestions are there?

[JerseyRich]

But what else is out there? What other suggestions are there?


Throw your XM radio down the toilet and die.

[Philly Franko]

Huge Ron and Fez Fan...Dave needs to stop talking so much...he is the Rich Vos of the team...but not as funny. Earl does not talk anymore and can not find songs, Love Fez he needs to relax and be himself. ronnie seems like an old Friend, I grew up near him and love his Movie rants..God Bless Franko...enjoy the Pods...beer time.

[Philly Franko]

I will Flush my XM if Ron and Fez are not on 202 after merger...O and A have 100 members but they all suck ash but than and Fattboy Erock...give some to Ron and Fez..why does Opie Hate R and F ? he acts too Gay for me...still afan of O and A, Just my Opinion...if it hurts turn the Channel

[Tenbatsuzen]

Throw your XM radio down the toilet and die.

it's 'fuck your mother', but thanks for playing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And if you think I'm trying to start a fight, I'm not. I'm asking, honestly, what suggestions people have. I don't want to hear constant complaining, because that's what it all boils down to. Feedback = complaining.

I think the first change to make the show better has always been the timeslot. But there could be issues, politics, and other things in play. For all we know, the show could change for the better post-merger.

[JerseyRich]

it's 'fuck your mother', but thanks for playing.

You brought her into this, not me.

[JerseyRich]

I don't want to hear constant complaining, because that's what it all boils down to. Feedback = complaining.


Wait, when did you get a radio show?

[KnoxHarrington]

I actually think they're doing quite a few things they need to do to improve the show: that is, kind of rein in ESD (so that he's actually talking instead of screaming like a maniac), stop spending so much of the show talking about the message boards (open the show up beyond that core of 10-20 people) or board parties (which 99.9% of the listening audience cannot attend because we're out here in flyover country), and try as best you can to get Fez back in. I do think it's better than it was; before Christmas, I really did think the show was really hurting, and I was tuning out for large chunks of the show.

It's just a matter now of making it work. Fezzie has to get back to where he was, ESD has to continue to work on being a real broadcaster and not just some screaming tattooed freak, and Earl either needs to improve or go. I think Ronnie knows what needs to be done. It's just a matter of getting it to work.

[AKA]

if you think the problems started with Fez's first heart attack, you aren't listening close enough. It started in DC, not once they got to XM.

GVAC is right - it was the heart attack that changed things.

The combination of dealing with stress + genetics + diet led to the heart attack, but an argument can be made that stress began when O&A were first kicked off WNEW and they carried the station for months, but that would be just as unhelpful to what's going on now.

With few exceptions, anxiety they had in DC was kept off the air. People who only listened to the downloads here of those moments - and only focus on them in an echochamber - missed out on some great radio.

Perrynoid, Hypno Shows, Crazy Jen, TONS of Iris and Andre, Bitz, Dubbs, Giant Brian, personal appearances and connections with fans like Kathleen & Bobo and even a couple of very funny cross over with the Don and Mike Show all happened during the dark time.

What did happen here was Fez first started seeing shrinks and taking meds, with disasterous results (something that, evedently repeated itself in NY, unfortunately). Long before he left, he gotten off of the meds and just weeks before they left, Fezzie ran a 5K (where the year before he had walked it) - that was huge contrast to the days before their first XM show, when they were at BB Kings signing autographs, I had never seen Fez so stressed - and that was months before the heart attack.

But that's been 2 years, and I still don't subscribe to the doom and gloom. Things don't seem as dark as they did in the summer of 2006, up until the first anniversary (Weak Week). We learn later that things were building to what became the FreeFM Show.

Things are dark now? And there's word of a merger? Things will be clear soon enough. If Fez is having issues, he has people there who love him - he's got a brilliant support system with Ron and Dave and many, many others.

[MadMatt]

And if you think I'm trying to start a fight, I'm not. I'm asking, honestly, what suggestions people have. I don't want to hear constant complaining, because that's what it all boils down to. Feedback = complaining.

I think the first change to make the show better has always been the timeslot. But there could be issues, politics, and other things in play. For all we know, the show could change for the better post-merger.

Have you read any of the previous posts?

I already said - take two-three weeks "off," change out the staff (or most of it), and hopefully return recharged and ready to go at it.

That's the start anyway. A change in timeslot might be good, but do you really think that is going to happen? At this point it seems they either want to be in the slot they are in or they simply aren't going to be moved by XM. However, given a new staff maybe they will be able to "produce" more.

They also can't do anything about the callers, other than getting a new phone screener. Again, it comes down to changing out the staff and getting better people.

[Friday]

the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.











sorry.:unsure:

[FUNKMAN]

the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.

sorry.:unsure:

three cheers for friday, for friday, for friday

three cheers for friday, the best of them all...

[Tenbatsuzen]

GVAC is right - it was the heart attack that changed things.

The combination of dealing with stress + genetics + diet led to the heart attack, but an argument can be made that stress began when O&A were first kicked off WNEW and they carried the station for months, but that would be just as unhelpful to what's going on now.


You're seeing the DC Era through rose colored glasses. Ron said on the show no less than 2 weeks ago that Fez was freaking out in DC and promised him that it would be all OK once they got back to New York.

You're right, that O&A getting canned was the start of Fez's problems, but to say things changed like that after the heart attack wasn't it. Fez was having issues on the air long before the heart attack.

The heart attack brought things to the forefront.

The problem is, Fez is clinically depressed. And that's not something you can just turn on and off and get great radio out of. A three week vacation wouldn't help things in that regard.

The question about suggestions was applied to Gvac specifically, and the R&F community in general. I know I'm accused of shit-stirring, but some of Gvac's threads can be taken the same way, especially when it comes to show related material. So I asked him to be more constructive.

It's also a matter of acceptance that the show is simply not the same as it was in 2002 and too many people are longing for it to be 2002.

I agree, Vernon and the comedy book writer thing sucked. Maybe the comedy book writer thing was one of those deals where they had to take a shit guest to get a good guest down the road. We don't know.

Another thing is, just because a guest sounds shitty on paper doesn't mean he'll be horrible. Chris Lemmon comes to mind on that.

[TheMojoPin]

You're seeing the DC Era through rose colored glasses. Ron said on the show no less than 2 weeks ago that Fez was freaking out in DC and promised him that it would be all OK once they got back to New York.

So it's New York's fault then. A city made of lies.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Have you read any of the previous posts?

I already said - take two-three weeks "off," change out the staff (or most of it), and hopefully return recharged and ready to go at it.

That's the start anyway. A change in timeslot might be good, but do you really think that is going to happen? At this point it seems they either want to be in the slot they are in or they simply aren't going to be moved by XM. However, given a new staff maybe they will be able to "produce" more.

They also can't do anything about the callers, other than getting a new phone screener. Again, it comes down to changing out the staff and getting better people.

Perhaps a change in staff is possible, but timeslot is directly related to quality of callers. If you heard the K-Rock shows, there was a distinctly different vibe to it. I can't be sure if it was because it was New York only or it was taking place at night, but the callers and flow was a lot better.

[MadMatt]

You're seeing the DC Era through rose colored glasses. Ron said on the show no less than 2 weeks ago that Fez was freaking out in DC and promised him that it would be all OK once they got back to New York.

You're right, that O&A getting canned was the start of Fez's problems, but to say things changed like that after the heart attack wasn't it. Fez was having issues on the air long before the heart attack.

The heart attack brought things to the forefront.

The problem is, Fez is clinically depressed. And that's not something you can just turn on and off and get great radio out of. A three week vacation wouldn't help things in that regard.

The question about suggestions was applied to Gvac specifically, and the R&F community in general. I know I'm accused of shit-stirring, but some of Gvac's threads can be taken the same way, especially when it comes to show related material. So I asked him to be more constructive.

It's also a matter of acceptance that the show is simply not the same as it was in 2002 and too many people are longing for it to be 2002.

I agree, Vernon and the comedy book writer thing sucked. Maybe the comedy book writer thing was one of those deals where they had to take a shit guest to get a good guest down the road. We don't know.

Another thing is, just because a guest sounds shitty on paper doesn't mean he'll be horrible. Chris Lemmon comes to mind on that.

OK, so a new staff and a break in action won't do anything to help the show? You have got to be kidding me.

I agree that it won't necessarily help Fez with his depression, but it also depends what he does during the break. If he takes his situation seriously and gets intensive treatment for a couple of weeks, he could easily be on the road to recovery.

And I am not talking out of my ass RE: Fez. I know first hand how torturous severe depression can be, and trying to get guidance and take control of your life is a part of recovery. The process has to start somewhere and intensive treatment is usually very helpful. It's like going to rehab to kick drugs - it is the first step in a long road.

[mikeyboy]

It's also a matter of acceptance that the show is simply not the same as it was in 2002 and too many people are longing for it to be 2002.

Fuck those people. The show changes. It always has. I wish as much as anyone that Fez was at full strength, but the show is hardly shit because it isn't the same show it was on WNEW. Every era of the show has it's positives and negatives. A few positives:

1. Ron has taken over more as the leader of the show. Possibly as a result, he's incredibly sharp. He may be at his absolute peak on on the show right now.

2. The eclecticism is amazing. Ron has said many times that the show is whatever they want it to be, and he's right. You really can't pigeonhole it. The show can go from the silly and scatalogical to amazingly deep in a matter of minutes. The variety of guests is great too. They don't have to worry about ratings like they would on terrestrial, so they can bring in anyone they want. I'm not saying that every interview is a home run (but Ron has developed into a phenomenal interviewer regardless), but sometimes the most unlikely guest connects in an amazing way.

3. Dave is a good addition to the show. I know there are many haters out there, but Dave really isn't the reason behind what's happened to Fez. He's a little rough around the edges, but when he hits, he hits hard.

What would I like to happen? I'd like Fez to get better and feel more confident, but other than that I don't have an armchair PD analysis. Fez still has his spots where he seems to be at full strength, but it would great to hear that every show. I'm sure I'll be labeled a kiss ass , but fuck it. I honestly don't think the show is in decline. It's different, but that's because it has adapted, something shows in its genre generally have a really hard time doing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK, so a new staff and a break in action won't do anything to help the show? You have got to be kidding me.

I agree that it won't necessarily help Fez with his depression, but it also depends what he does during the break. If he takes his situation seriously and gets intensive treatment for a couple of weeks, he could easily be on the road to recovery.

And I am not talking out of my ass RE: Fez. I know first hand how torturous severe depression can be, and trying to get guidance and take control of your life is a part of recovery. The process has to start somewhere and intensive treatment is usually very helpful. It's like going to rehab to kick drugs - it is the first step in a long road.

I didn't say a new staff wouldn't help things. But we also don't know how much of this is "bit" and how much of this is not. I don't think at this point in the game that a vacation would help. We tried that with the new studio, it didn't exactly work. Plus, considering Fez's antisocial behavior, I don't think letting him to his own devices for a month isn't exactly a smart idea because it could backfire.

Ron has always ridden producers. Al, Billy, Wonderboy, Brian, etc. I don't think it's any different for Pitz. It's part of the bit, the us vs. them mentality.

I do think that Earl's issues are a little deeper than that, but I'm not going to call for Earl's firing because, quite honestly, I don't believe in that. Fez's reaction to Earl on Friday was kind of like breaking a wall because Fez really did sound pissed at Earl.

The other problem is, let's say you get rid of Earl - then what? Who do you bring in? One of the O&A producers? Someone new? Quite honestly, I can't see Than meshing with R&F at all because his humor doesn't mesh. His dry, deadpan delivery has too much in common with Ron, and that's why Dave and Ron work so well together because Ron's cool and Dave's insane. Than has a too-cool-for-the-room vibe about him. I'm not saying that makes him a bad producer, but he's much better suited for O&A than R&F.

Plus, for all we know, XM is in a hiring freeze until the merger is complete. If that's the case, they can't terminate employees because they can't bring new ones in.

I will not and cannot call for Earl's dismissal. But I think bringing someone in with some talk show experience is needed. Radio and hot talk experience are two totally different animals sometimes.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fuck those people. The show changes. It always has. I wish as much as anyone that Fez was at full strength, but the show is hardly shit because it isn't the same show it was on WNEW. .


QFT. The Mikeyboy Gospel. Let it be written.

I don't think the show is "bad". I cringe when I hear Fez's mood swings or Earl's meltdowns, but I still listen as much as I can at work, and quite honestly, I risk my job doing so. I love the show, I always have, because it evolves.

I find myself listening to O&A less and less because of how stagnant they are getting, but I never felt the same way about R&F.

[AKA]

You're seeing the DC Era through rose colored glasses.

To some degree I'd agree, but I was never a Pollyana as I was someone who had listened during the earlierst "Dot Com" days too. I was able to see the difference between what was on the air and off - and what was on the air was some great radio. What was off the air, they kept close to themselves for the most part, but (and my only point was) it was never that black and white.

If there was a guarentee that Fez would never have a heart attack by doing a John Connor and going back and change it so that they didn't leave NY after WNEW flipped, I would do it, but that also ignores their talk on the air of the other contributing factors.

And Mikeyboy's three point assesment really nails the state of the show right now - Ron has risen to a wonderful level during this - the show is in a constant state of fluidity (which is a good thing) - and Dave is a rare find in radio that adds a lot. And like Mikey, I also do not think the show is in the decline - not one bit.

[sailor]

3. Dave... when he hits, he hits hard.

word, yo.

[thepaulo]

I think they should move the show to Chicago.

[danner1515]

I actually think they're doing quite a few things they need to do to improve the show: that is, kind of rein in ESD (so that he's actually talking instead of screaming like a maniac), stop spending so much of the show talking about the message boards (open the show up beyond that core of 10-20 people) or board parties (which 99.9% of the listening audience cannot attend because we're out here in flyover country)

That is the main thing for me. I can handle the occasional meltdown and drama. It's the constant inside talk about message board and Paltalk people that began to put me off. I like Dave as an on-air personality, but all the inside talk gets a little alienating to the listeners who don't live on Paltalk or the boards. I remember last year when they had the Free FM show, someone called in asking if there were any plans to air those shows on XM, and Ron answered that they probably wouldn't since they wanted to keep it a New York-based show since they already had a national show on XM. The funny thing is what I heard of the Free FM show was a hell of a lot more universal than the XM show at that time.

However, like I said, to my ears things are getting better. I can actually sit through a show now without having to hear about HTG folding laundry.

[llc]

I've been listening for a few years myself and noticed it has lost a lot of it's fun:

1. They need to stop have a guest on every day, it takes up too much of the show and is being used as filler. Ron talks with them for an hour and Fez says nothing. If they have a guest both should be involved in a dialogue, not just promotions.

2. Dave-well, Dave needs to shut the hell up. I don't mind the producers talking, J-Dubs was always really funny and entertaining, but Dave constantly just agrees with Ron. They need a third microphone with some opinions of his own.

3. Earl needs to go away. It is bizarre that Earl was so well liked when they were in DC and now is just hated. I don't really care if it is a bit or not, but listening to them spend an average of an hour a day complaining about Earl isn't fun. Friday when Fez was throwing stuff, it was just painful to hear.

4. I have had the same exact anxiety disorders Fez seems to have and if what he describes is accurate, he needs to make some big changes. Number one is the fact that his therapist has apparently given him no relaxation and coping skills. Anxiety disorders and panic attacks can be terrifying and shouldn't be used as a source of comedy.

5. Stop the daily political talk-we get it Barrack Obama is Earl's hero. Nothing new is ever said during these conversations.

6. What happened to the interns. They were always entertaining and added a little variety to the show.

7. I know XM is supposed to be "free-for-all" but how about a little show prep. By the third hour it really seems like they are desperately trying to find something to talk about. Maybe the structure of a radio station was helpful (they seem pretty isolated at the xm station they are at now).

I hope they can find a way to improve the show. They truly are talented and deserve the show, but desperately need to find a way to make changes.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that Fez was upset "living in DC" not being on the station.

[mr.smokepants]

The show is a soap opera for me....a fucking hilarious soap opera. I couldn't imagine the show not just "being" the show....in whatever form it takes. Change occurs everywhere. I change jobs all the time....I change my moods, I change my ideas. I guess some of us (including me) just want the things that make us happy, like the show, to just stay the same. Maybe?

All I can say is Ron and Fez has always been, and will continue to be my favorite radio program, whether it's on WNEW, JFK or XM.

[MadMatt]

Fuck those people. The show changes. It always has. I wish as much as anyone that Fez was at full strength, but the show is hardly shit because it isn't the same show it was on WNEW. Every era of the show has it's positives and negatives...

QFT. The Mikeyboy Gospel. Let it be written.

I don't think the show is "bad". I cringe when I hear Fez's mood swings or Earl's meltdowns, but I still listen as much as I can at work, and quite honestly, I risk my job doing so. I love the show, I always have, because it evolves.

I don't think any of us are saying that the show "sucks" now - I think it really is the BEST thing on the radio and feel like my day is f-ed up if I don't get to hear Ron & Fez.

However, I also think most of us are getting frustrated because Ron & Fez seem to be so frustrated. Fez isn't getting any better, and although Ron is clearly on top of his game, he is constantly angered by the incompetent staff surrounding him.

IMO, if Ron & Fez are more comfortable and feeling better about the show, the show itself will be better.

Of course it is armchair quarterbacking, but what the hell else can we do? It's not like we actually have any impact on the show or what they do.

Matty & Mikeyboy - you guys may forget that because you know the guys personally and can actually talk to them about things if you want/need to (primarily you Mikey). The rest of us are in the dark and have nothing but this message board. Nothing we say is going to have any impact, but we are frustrated too and want to share that frustration. We just want Ron & Fez to be happy.

EDIT: And Mr.Smokepants also stated virtually the same thing above me (parallel writing). Of course we expect things to change; it would just be nice if Ron & Fez seemed to be happier and having more fun. IMO changes need to be made for that to happen.

[mr.smokepants]

EDIT: And Mr.Smokepants also stated virtually the same thing above me (parallel writing). Of course we expect things to change; it would just be nice if Ron & Fez seemed to be happier and having more fun. IMO changes need to be made for that to happen.

Yup....Like it or not, a lot of us are more than simply "Fans" of this show....we actually feel connected to the people on the show....even if it is not a real connection. Mikeyboy's relationship with the real the show is much more than most of ours....because he REALLY knows the guys.....not just the voices that come across a radio. Complete soap opera....one that has hooked me in. That aspect has always been a big part of why I listen....plus they are funny as hell. Any one of us that has been listening since the early NEW days understands that the show just changes. I'd lie to you if I said I didn't miss Al Dukes pissing his pants, but now we have the Dave/Earl/Lilly dynamic to listen to.....which we didn't have at NEW or JFK. Change is good for some, bad for others. The only change that would upset would be if they replaced Ron and Fez with different programming (which I'm not suggesting will happen at all). R&F forever.:clap:

[underdog]

Fuck those people. The show changes. It always has. I wish as much as anyone that Fez was at full strength, but the show is hardly shit because it isn't the same show it was on WNEW. Every era of the show has it's positives and negatives.

:clap:

I don't get it. The show constantly seems strong to me. I don't see why people complain about it. Fez has some bad days, but the show keeps going.

And the Earl meltdowns are fantastic radio. Especially with Ron and Fez screaming at him.

But seriously, I don't get everyone's "problem" with the show now. I have to set aside a 3 hours block every day just so I can listen to the shows. I haven't missed a single show in over a year. I don't see the problem.

[lleeder]

I'm not gonna re-read evreyones posts but the show is always great to me. The show is on five days a week for three hours a day. Sometimes six days when they pull a Sunday show. If one segment has the smallest lull in it people are ready to go crazy. Fuck complainers in their fuckholes.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Matty & Mikeyboy - you guys may forget that because you know the guys personally and can actually talk to them about things if you want/need to (primarily you Mikey). The rest of us are in the dark and have nothing but this message board. Nothing we say is going to have any impact, but we are frustrated too and want to share that frustration. We just want Ron & Fez to be happy.



Wha? I don't know Ron personally. I know of him and he knows of me. I send him a few IMs time to time, but it's not like I have a deep friendship with him. The only time I see him is at show events, and even then it's just pleasantries because I don't want to occupy his time.

In fact, the last deep conversation I had with either of them was at Christmas Party trying to figure out what "dolphin crash" meant.

[NortonRules]

Fez ALWAYS kills when he's on O&A or O&A sit in on the R&F show. Anyone else notice that? I'm not sure what it means, though.

[Marc with a c]

Fez ALWAYS kills when he's on O&A or O&A sit in on the R&F show. Anyone else notice that? I'm not sure what it means, though.

fez loves an audience.

[lleeder]

more people around Fez make him happier.

[jauble]

Fez ALWAYS kills when he's on O&A or O&A sit in on the R&F show. Anyone else notice that? I'm not sure what it means, though.

Might remind him of the old days too. Fez seems like a nostalgic person.

[MadMatt]

Wha? I don't know Ron personally. I know of him and he knows of me. I send him a few IMs time to time, but it's not like I have a deep friendship with him. The only time I see him is at show events, and even then it's just pleasantries because I don't want to occupy his time.

In fact, the last deep conversation I had with either of them was at Christmas Party trying to figure out what "dolphin crash" meant.
Fine. Fuck-all. I retract it. Apparently only the favorite children are allowed to be snarky.

[TheMojoPin]

No wonder people think you are a dick - you are nothing but argumentative!

It's more of a relationship than 99% of the listening audience has. And did you happen to read the phrase "primarily you Mikey?"

I usually like you, but STFU if you are going to be a tool. I'm in no mood to deal with your particular brand of self-righteous s@#$ today.

If you don't want to participate in the constructive discussion posed in this thread, DON'T FREAKIN' READ IT! Go to another thread that entertains you and let us discuss things in peace without unnecessary drama.

Wow.

I'm normally a fan of any Matty Fridays savaging, but that post you replied to was probably one of his least inflammatory in his entire time here. It was relatively humble and self-depricating...maybe it was the shock of him posting such a thing that threw you off?

[Hottub]

I'll second Mojo on this one. If anything, that was the anti-Matty, Matt.
No kidding, I actually read it twice when he posted.

Welcome Tenbats 2.0?

[mrgreen]

I've only been listening for a couple of years but isn't this normal?

[NortonRules]

they should give fez fake alcohol during the show.

1. he'll think he's drunk and relax and participate more.

2. no ill effects of alcohol.

there. i've solved it.

[DaveTheTrucker]

IMO Dave has to go. Not because I dont like his talking or characters, but because his game is divide and conquer. He is so quick to throw someone under the damn bus as often as he can. I truly believe he thinks he will get ahead by running the others down. While Earl does have his problems, I believe that Dave has created a lot of his anxiety, and internal stress that is making him worse at his job. Daves constant ass kissing of Ron has run its course and Ron doesnt respect it. Dave constantly reminds me of that ass kissing yes man that David Spade played in the Coneheads movie.

[Churchpants]

Change is good for some, bad for others. The only change that would upset would be if they replaced Ron and Fez with different programming (which I'm not suggesting will happen at all). R&F forever.:clap:

See that's my fear... I've only been listening to the show for 1.5 years, and (having downloaded/listened to the old versions of the show) love the current incarnation (and staff), but yeah, it is evolving/changing...and while I don't by any means think that's a bad thing, I do think it may lend weight to Ron's (maybe a bit) quote of the XM suits that "This isn't the show we thought we were getting."

I've started to have this concern that, if the Merger does indeed happen, the R&F show might not survive it. I'm sure they would pop back up in some form somewhere, but it would be a hard blow to withstand.

So I've become somewhat of an R&F survivalist...downloading all the old clips, carefully recording and archiving the show every day...hording Comedy gold against the End of [R&F] Days that hopefully will never come. But if it does I will be huddled in my cellar listening to old mp3s of the show.

Anyone else? I know it's nothing anyone wants to consider, but what would you do if you woke up tomorrow and the show were gone? (Beyond dropping down on your knees on the beach, clutching the broken pieces of your INNO, crying out "You maniacs! You blew it up!!")

[TjM]

Fez ALWAYS kills when he's on O&A or O&A sit in on the R&F show. Anyone else notice that? I'm not sure what it means, though.

No screaming ginger around

[TjM]

Fez should also get off that island

[Gvac]

The show was definitely on an upswing this week, the highlight being a drunk Fez screaming "I know you're listening Wickland...and I want Earl OUT OF HERE!"

Finally, Fez was passionate and making sense. If only he could be that way sober.

I really think if Earl was canned and another producer who "gets" the show was brought in the show would be firing on all cylinders once again.

STAPLES....NOW!!!

[sailor]

The show was definitely on an upswing this week, the highlight being a drunk Fez screaming "I know you're listening Wickland...and I want Earl OUT OF HERE!"

Finally, Fez was passionate and making sense. If only he could be that way sober.

I really think if Earl was canned and another producer who "gets" the show was brought in the show would be firing on all cylinders once again.

STAPLES....NOW!!!

h8er

[Gvac]

h8er

Says the man who thinks conversation here lately has been "lackluster."

You're not helping. :nono:

[jimmyolsenblues]

Ron Bennington, who I love , who I think is the best in the world, has led a life where if he wanted someone gone, he treated them bad.
We all heard Ron never broke up with a woman he just did something that would make her mad enough for her to leave.
This strategy has back fired.
(I don't mean FEZ, I love fez, but regarding the rest of the staff..........
He is surrounded by unworking unprofessionals who live to take abuse but will not get motivated to do anything).
ESD is very loyal but when was the last time ESD produced anything.
Earl simply must be let go asap. How he could possibly get a raise is a sign of the decline of the United States.

[underdog]

I really think if Earl was canned and another producer who "gets" the show was brought in the show would be firing on all cylinders once again.

STAPLES....NOW!!!

Oh god, please no.

[ZigZagBigBag]

if the show was sculpted around the mercurial feelings of the fans it would be the most boring show ever. the fact that dave and earl get such a reaction is reason enough for them to be there. the show goes where it goes.

[booster11373]

Earl will never leave on his own. He is like a tick you will have to burn him out

[GvacMobile]

Hmmmmmm.....

[mr.smokepants]

Earl will never leave on his own. He is like a tick you will have to burn him out

Are you suggesting that we should burn and lynch Earl? White people are so scared of black people:clap:

[silas]

I've (wrongly) thought this before, but i think some sort of corner is possibly being turned.

I believe RB's comments about how the "straights" are now involved is very real.

Even tho extreme anxiety eps aren't uncommon among those w/cardiac histories, the adults (and more specifically, their money) may be seeking answers about the state of the show; XM/Serius, Drs, various contracts.....

[MadMatt]

I've (wrongly) thought this before, but i think some sort of corner is possibly being turned.

I believe RB's comments about how the "straights" are now involved is very real.

Even tho extreme anxiety eps aren't uncommon among those w/cardiac histories, the adults (and more specifically, their money) may be seeking answers about the state of the show; XM/Serius, Drs, various contracts.....

I hate to say it, but there may be something to this.

Ron has said before that Washington told him flat out "This is not the show that we bought."

Now Ron is intimating that the 'kids with talent' may want to abandon ship while they have the chance.

Damn it! :down:

[dino_electropolis]

I hate to say it, but there may be something to this.

Ron has said before that Washington told him flat out "This is not the show that we bought."

Now Ron is intimating that the 'kids with talent' may want to abandon ship while they have the chance.

Damn it! :down:

would hate to even think this were close to true.....

could be ronnie just messin with our heads b/c he knows we'd all be pickin up on it.....but with him, ya never know.

I tell you this, they say goodbye to Ronnie, i say goodbye to XsiriusM

[drjoek]

Did someone say your moms box right before Satelite of love today? I ll listen to the replay

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I haven't heard today's show yet, but are the kids with talent Lilly and Pepper? They should be going after paying gigs anyway since XM doesn't want to pay for more than 3 producers.

[MadMatt]

I haven't heard today's show yet, but are the kids with talent Lilly and Pepper? They should be going after paying gigs anyway since XM doesn't want to pay for more than 3 producers.

Lilly, Pepper, and Dave. Very good guess Budday.

There was also a sideways mention of BX Johnny - and I say sideways because (as mentioned) he has had to cut most of his time on the show do to working a real job. He still has Ron's support though.

[Zorro]

would hate to even think this were close to true.....

could be ronnie just messin with our heads b/c he knows we'd all be pickin up on it.....but with him, ya never know.

I tell you this, they say goodbye to Ronnie, i say goodbye to XsiriusM

Ron was very clear when he said..."is everyone getting the hint"

...it's gonna be over...

[Brad_Rush]

would hate to even think this were close to true.....

could be ronnie just messin with our heads b/c he knows we'd all be pickin up on it.....but with him, ya never know.

I tell you this, they say goodbye to Ronnie, i say goodbye to XsiriusM

Agreed. I download most of my music anyway, along with the hideout shows and a few books on tape, and then just listen to them on my phone. I would rather listen to the show on that anyway and not have to carry around my inno. I'll keep doing it to support the show, but without that I don't need satelite radio.

[Heather 8]

Did someone say your moms box right before Satelite of love today? I ll listen to the replay

Don't think so, though Ron did keep yelling at that pushy Homestar Runner.

[Gvac]

Don't think so, though Ron did keep yelling at that pushy Homestar Runner.

That little motherfucker always has to have the last word.

[LaBoob]

would hate to even think this were close to true.....

could be ronnie just messin with our heads b/c he knows we'd all be pickin up on it.....but with him, ya never know.

I tell you this, they say goodbye to Ronnie, i say goodbye to XsiriusM

Agreed. I'd be so furious... there's no telling what I'd do...
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[K.C.]

Ron was very clear when he said..."is everyone getting the hint"

...it's gonna be over...

Sure sounds that way. Wonder if Ron will keep doing Unmasked...and with Fez's talk of going away for a little bit to get his head on straight....

The only thing I'm not sure of is whether this is a decision they're going to make on their own, to allow Fez time to get his stuff together, or if their hand is being forced by the merger and they know they're going to be a casualty of it.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I'll give it to you guys, you're getting me worried. For fuck's sake Audible, post the show already!

[Sinestro]

What's going on?

[ibanez23]

I say get rid of Ron and Fez I get rid of XM.They are the only reason I subscribe anyway.It's not for the repeditive songs they play or OaA I get them for free on local stations.....All I know is I can't imagine no Ron and Fez.

[Gvac]

Man, I'm gonna miss these guys and this show.

Oh well, I guess all things must pass.

[DiabloSammich]

Man, I'm gonna miss these guys and this show.

Oh well, I guess all things must pass.



One more week. Care to join me? It could be slightly gayer version of Thelma and Louise.

[Gvac]

One more week. Care to join me? It could be slightly gayer version of Thelma and Louise.

Only slightly?

Then forget it.

[tileslinger]

Ron can see the whole chess game in front of him. Ron, Opie and Anthony have this thing figured out 10 moves ahead. Just picture Ron, Opie and Anthony down in some World War Two map room Ant in full uniform and Ronny with a Winston Churchill cigar. On the left is every network, stalite and internet option in front of them. On the right are all the producers, interns and faithfull listeners. I hope I'm wrong but I think some shits going to go down. But it'll turn out ok.

It has to our entire way of life depends on it...

[Furtherman]

One more week. Care to join me? It could be slightly gayer version of Buck and Chuck.

Fixed.

[Sinestro]

it ain't over till Fezzy sings.


Harper Valley PTA.....

[BlackSpider]

If Ron and Fez leave, I will follow.
I will cancel my XM as soon as I hear the words.
They won't get another dime out of me.

[Sinestro]

Won't they offer you some type of discount if you try to quit? Like they did when O&A were suspended awhile ago when people talked about discontinuing their XM service.

[Aqualad]

Stop it guys, youre scaring me. :glurps:

[LaBoob]

I have a hard time wrapping my brain around XM and Sirius not seeing the value in Ron and Fez. If they don't, then I want nothing to do with them. Seriously, they might like to try putting them in a more accessible time slot, or throwing some advertising dollars their way before they just cancel them.

[Gvac]

Nice knowing you all.

What else is on noon to 3? Rush Limbaugh?

Does he have a messageboard?

[Sinestro]

Nice knowing you all.

What else is on noon to 3? Rush Limbaugh?

Does he have a messageboard?

So you're leaving again?

[marcpsych]

Ron can see the whole chess game in front of him. Ron, Opie and Anthony have this thing figured out 10 moves ahead. Just picture Ron, Opie and Anthony down in some World War Two map room Ant in full uniform and Ronny with a Winston Churchill cigar. On the left is every network, stalite and internet option in front of them. On the right are all the producers, interns and faithfull listeners. I hope I'm wrong but I think some shits going to go down. But it'll turn out ok.

It has to our entire way of life depends on it...

I really don't see O&A being in any danger here, given their massive popularity on both XM and terrestrial radio, plus a likely Comedy Central show coming up.

Ron and Fez are unfortunately a different story. I have been a longtime faithful fan since early WNEW, and care about them as people more than the show itself, but I would not be surprised if they somehow get either left out in the merger or put even more on the back burner. They are the victims of their own success, as anyone can listen to their old tapes and see that the show is not nearly as together and entertaining as it once was. It is more heartfelt and contemplative, but heartfelt does not buy air time, unfortunately.

The most important thing is Fez getitng himself together, for his own sake first and foremost. If he can do that, and the show is still there or reforms, then they will kick ass and have the opportunity to do so. A full-strength Fez is such a force of talent that no other participants or incarnations of the show have come close to filling those shoes.

[Gvac]

So you're leaving again?

Don't you get it? It's OVER. They're leaving like rats off a sinking ship.

Earl's headed to The Boneyard, Dave is going to O&A, and Fezzie's off to the nut hut.

DONK

[K.C.]

Don't you get it? It's OVER. They're leaving like rats off a sinking ship.

Earl's headed to The Boneyard, Dave is going to O&A, and Fezzie's off to the nut hut.

DONK

Yep...Ronnie B will probably hang around to do Unmasked for a while...Fezzie to the wellness clinic...Dave becomes Opie's new punching bag.

As for Earl...well, I think he goes on to fulfill what has always been his ultimate destiny...the heir apparent to Radioman.

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[LaBoob]

I don't know why Ron said this is Earl's last job in radio... I think he's got a bright future...

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[Big L]

I got XM 2 years ago to listen to the Baseball games. I was checking out the other stations and happened upon Ron and Fez. I have listened to about a dozen games since then, I LOVE RON AND FEZ!!!!!!! If they go I go!!!!!!

[Sinestro]

Like XMSirius cares. Stop with the I'll drop my subscription already if......


Give the boys a chance.

[booster11373]

Im a little behind listening.


Anyone care to give a synopsis of the current situation

[Gvac]

I got XM 2 years ago to listen to the Baseball games. I was checking out the other stations and happened upon Ron and Fez. I have listened to about a dozen games since then, I LOVE RON AND FEZ!!!!!!! If they go I go!!!!!!

Welcome to the board Big L!

Anybody that loves Ron and Fez and is a baseball fan can't be all bad!

[smiler grogan]

I got XM 2 years ago to listen to the Baseball games. I was checking out the other stations and happened upon Ron and Fez. I have listened to about a dozen games since then, I LOVE RON AND FEZ!!!!!!! If they go I go!!!!!!


If they are ending the show and to me its a bit until its official, buy if Ron and Fez decide themselves to quit or go on hiatus or whatever why blame XM?

[Grendel_Kahn]

GVAC............seriously. Cut it out. We. Know. Nothing. Nothing has been said. Nothing has even ( really) been hinted about. Why be that guy? Why be the "the sky is falling" guy? I'm sure Opie and Anthony will talk at length about the merger tomorrow. I am sure Ron and Fez will be mentioned. I also am fairly confident if the boys mention it with any kind of seriousness then Ronnie will have to address it. As he has in the past.


On second thought....why not call in tomorrow and just ask? Not just you, but any or all of us?

[Gvac]

GVAC............seriously. Cut it out. We. Know. Nothing. Nothing has been said. Nothing has even ( really) been hinted about. Why be that guy? Why be the "the sky is falling" guy? I'm sure Opie and Anthony will talk at length about the merger tomorrow. I am sure Ron and Fez will be mentioned. I also am fairly confident if the boys mention it with any kind of seriousness then Ronnie will have to address it. As he has in the past.


On second thought....why not call in tomorrow and just ask? Not just you, but any or all of us?

The Five Stages of Grief --


Denial: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why me? It's not fair."
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my children graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."

[DiabloSammich]

Welcome to the board Big L!

Anybody that loves Ron and Fez and is a baseball fan can't be all bad!



What about Hippo?

[Gvac]

What about Hippo?

There's always an exception to every rule.

[DiabloSammich]

There's always an exception to every rule.



Just like the Jewish thing. Got it.

[Gvac]

Just like the Jewish thing. Got it.

And yet initially he said Einstein was burning in hell.

I don't get it.

[Sinestro]

The Five Stages of Grief --


Denial: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why me? It's not fair."
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my children graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."

You forgot the sixth one:
Limbo: "Oh fucking shit, I'm DEAD! Sonofabitch x infinity"

[Zorro]

GVAC............seriously. Cut it out. We. Know. Nothing. Nothing has been said. Nothing has even ( really) been hinted about. Why be that guy? Why be the "the sky is falling" guy? I'm sure Opie and Anthony will talk at length about the merger tomorrow. I am sure Ron and Fez will be mentioned. I also am fairly confident if the boys mention it with any kind of seriousness then Ronnie will have to address it. As he has in the past.


On second thought....why not call in tomorrow and just ask? Not just you, but any or all of us?

Ron so much as said the show was coming to an end. He's told people to look for other jobs and said "is everyone getting the hint?" He also mentioned that he's going to be taken care of personally. Hell, even when he's in studio Fez is barely part of the show. We need to prepare for the end...

[dino_electropolis]

everybody cool out......


we dont know shiiiiiiit......its all conjecture and speculation.

why stress now? it does no good.....keep your shit sane now......if they do go, then we can all collectively lose our shit.

[Gvac]

The Five Stages of Grief --


Denial: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why me? It's not fair."
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my children graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."

It'll be OK, dino.