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Bulldogcakes
12-09-2007, 06:55 AM
NYC to Consider Horse-Drawn Carriage Ban (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071208/D8TD8SEO0.html)

NEW YORK (AP) - The horse-drawn carriages that clip clop around Central Park could be banned under City Council legislation to be introduced at the urging of animal advocates who say the horses are treated inhumanely.

Councilman Tony Avella, who plans to introduce the bill next Wednesday, said the horses that have entertained tourists and New Yorkers for decades are exposed to cruel conditions and are at risk of injury or death as they weave through city traffic.

In September, a horse died after it was spooked by street musicians with drums and bolted down Central Park South. It was the second such incident in less than two years.

"This situation is only getting worse - the animals are not being treated properly, and enough is enough," Avella said. "Horses are incompatible with traffic - especially midtown traffic."

Avella is my councilman and is a very nice guy, but this is a great example of how wrong headed good intentions can be. Many of these horses are former racehorses who get the few slots available as carriage horses. The rest of them get sent to slaughterhouses in Texas and Mexico where they get chopped up and sold as dog food and meat in Europe and elsewhere. I agree that having the horses mixing with traffic is a bad idea for both drivers and the horses, but this is heavy handed and a stupid way to deal with that.

I think we've all looked at those horses at one time or another and felt bad for them, but I don't a ban that guarantees their death is more humane. They are also a charming relic of a city long gone, and should remain as a reminder for future generations. Also, there's an easy solution to this. Simply have the horses be parked inside the Central Park roadway, which is where they go anyway. They'd be a little less visible, but it would be better for both the motorists and the horses. You could also close the 6th Ave entrance to cars, there are lots of other entrances for cars and the horses could use that roadway exclusively without causing significant traffic problems. If anything, when the horses mix in with cars they cause congestion. So give them their own road, the 6th ave entrance is half theirs already.

cupcakelove
12-09-2007, 07:07 AM
I don't expect this to go very far, but I would welcome the lack of manure stink when I'm going on run.

Bulldogcakes
12-09-2007, 07:20 AM
I don't expect this to go very far, but I would welcome the lack of manure stink when I'm going on a run.

You won't be free from it, you'll still have the subways to look forward to.

underdog
12-09-2007, 07:39 AM
They have these in Boston, too. And I fucking hate them. The white horses have all turned brown from all the exhaust, and they all look nearly dead. It's so fucking cruel to the horses.

Also, the cabbies constantly honk at them, too. Like the fucking horse knows what the honking means.

cupcakelove
12-09-2007, 08:02 AM
You won't be free from it, you'll still have the subways to look forward to.

Who runs in the subway?

scottinnj
12-09-2007, 08:54 AM
The Horses are in Philadelphia too. I can't speak for the horses and their owners in NYC, but I'd hate to see a ban on this in Philly.
The horses down here are treated nice, they seem happy and healthy

A.J.
12-09-2007, 10:14 AM
You're next.

http://gothamist.com/attachments/weather_joe/horses_lindsayb.jpg

CofyCrakCocaine
12-09-2007, 03:04 PM
Ban 'em from wherever they're treated like shit. Boston and NYC seem to be the candidates for a removal.

If Scott's right, then keep 'em in Philly. I know they treated them pretty well in Gettysburg too, but Gburg isn't really a place where "urban sprawl" comes to mind.

Snacks
12-09-2007, 03:08 PM
I hope they ban them. When Im driving on central park south the horse and buggy rides slow down traffic and they shit all over the place. They arent even pretty horses, they are dirty looking and probably are treated like shit. I have no problem with the ban, I could care less about nostalgia and NY of the past. Back then there werent as many people or cars now there is enough traffic from cars, the awful streets, people and construction no need to make it worse.

HBox
12-09-2007, 03:11 PM
You're next.

http://gothamist.com/attachments/weather_joe/horses_lindsayb.jpg

I hear Wade Boggs is taking a special interest in this case.

underdog
12-09-2007, 03:13 PM
I hear Wade Boggs is taking a special interest in this case.

I just googled "wade boggs horse" and realized that its probably the strangest thing I've ever googled.

HBox
12-09-2007, 03:17 PM
I just googled "wade boggs horse" and realized that its probably the strangest thing I've ever googled.

I googled that just to see what would come up.

Bulldogcakes
12-09-2007, 03:19 PM
I googled that just to see what would come up.

Are you talking about baseball or gay porn?

deepinthewoods
12-09-2007, 03:55 PM
It is truly a sign of the times that inner city equine transportation is finally going the way of love and marriage.

badmonkey
12-09-2007, 03:56 PM
I just googled "wade boggs horse" and realized that its probably the strangest thing I've ever googled.

Is "boggs" a verb in that sentence?

earthbrown
12-09-2007, 04:46 PM
liberalism is a mental disorder.

HBox
12-09-2007, 06:00 PM
liberalism is a mental disorder.

You're a mental disorder.

BoondockSaint
12-09-2007, 06:01 PM
What will happen to Rusty?

torker
12-09-2007, 06:06 PM
You're next.
http://thesuperficial.com/2007/10/1003_sarah_jessica_parker_satc_00-thumb.jpg

HBox
12-09-2007, 06:07 PM
http://thesuperficial.com/2007/10/1003_sarah_jessica_parker_satc_00-thumb.jpg

Somebody get that horse a carrot.

underdog
12-09-2007, 06:10 PM
liberalism is a mental disorder.

You're a mental disorder.

Wait, I'm confused.

Is not wanting horses to suffer and get honked at by cabs liberal?

TheMojoPin
12-09-2007, 06:14 PM
Less poo, more glue.

Win-win.

underdog
12-09-2007, 06:16 PM
Less poo, more glue.

I like your campaign slogan and will vote for you.

deepinthewoods
12-09-2007, 06:30 PM
First they kept out the Amish, and I said nothing...

FUNKMAN
12-09-2007, 06:34 PM
they're certainly going to stirrup alot of controversy

SatCam
12-09-2007, 06:35 PM
What is the mane issue here?

badmonkey
12-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Another horrible blow to the Carriage Manufacturers Union. I don't see how he can possibly survive this one.

FUNKMAN
12-09-2007, 06:41 PM
i wonder if they'll be able to harness enough support?

SatCam
12-09-2007, 06:43 PM
I guess we'll just have to saddle up and go for the ride

FUNKMAN
12-09-2007, 06:45 PM
hopefully cooler heads prevail and the situation becomes stable

SatCam
12-09-2007, 06:48 PM
we've only grazed the problem here

HBox
12-09-2007, 06:54 PM
Gallop Polls say New Yorkers are definitively opposed to this measure.

SatCam
12-09-2007, 07:01 PM
Gallop Polls say New Yorkers are definitively opposed to this measure.


sounds like the carriage rides have ponied up a lot of support

FUNKMAN
12-09-2007, 07:05 PM
people are just gonna have to hoof it

torker
12-09-2007, 07:08 PM
My mudder supports the ban; dad says neigh.

FUNKMAN
12-09-2007, 07:10 PM
My mudder supports the ban; dad says neigh.

you hit the exacta

torker
12-09-2007, 07:17 PM
This should have happened years ago.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Ed_Koch_1978.jpg
Back when Mr. Ed was in office.