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LordJezo
12-24-2007, 07:57 AM
I guess it's time to start stockpiling old fashioned light bulbs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/business/22light.html?_r=4&ex=1356152400&en=a3bd3c90eb102844&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

I have switched a bunch of the lights in my house to the fancy new kind already but almost all the lights in my house are on dimmer switches so I can't covert many of them.

Crazy times.

sailor
12-24-2007, 08:02 AM
Congress has not specifically outlawed incandescent bulbs, only inefficient ones.

In February, G.E. said that it was developing a high-efficiency incandescent that will radiate more than twice the light of conventional incandescents. It expects to make that one commercially available by 2010, and one that is twice as efficient a few years later.

and you can't use fluorescents on dimmers?

LordJezo
12-24-2007, 08:06 AM
and you can't use fluorescents on dimmers?

Nope. Check almost all of them out there, they all have warnings on them to not use them on dimmers.

There are some that do work on dimmers but they cost a lot of money, too much for me to get 4 of them per light fixture. I dont want to spend $100s of dollars to put new lights in a couple of rooms in my place.

sailor
12-24-2007, 08:08 AM
Nope. Check almost all of them out there, they all have warnings on them to not use them on dimmers.

There are some that do work on dimmers but they cost a lot of money, too much for me to get 4 of them per light fixture. I dont want to spend $100s of dollars to put new lights in a couple of rooms in my place.

don't know of that and those (not doubting, i just don't have knowledge) but the regular fluorescents are way worth it economically. you pay much less for electricity and they last a lot longer.

Mike Teacher
12-24-2007, 09:33 AM
What will appear over our heads when we get an idea ?

earthbrown
12-24-2007, 10:03 AM
for like $2 you can get regular light switches.

shut the breaker off to that circuit and replace 2 minutes with only a flat screwdriver.

If you cant shut breaker off wear rubber chemical gloves.


K

SatCam
12-24-2007, 10:03 AM
What will appear over our heads when we get an idea ?

an led

FUNKMAN
12-24-2007, 11:09 AM
Incandescent light bulbs be to shelved by 2012 in US


say watt?

ralphbxny
12-24-2007, 11:40 AM
They were the best...there they go!

reillyluck
12-24-2007, 11:42 AM
Incandescent light bulbs be to shelved by 2012 in US


say watt?

where does he come up with this stuff!!!! :lol: i love funkman!

Fallon
12-24-2007, 11:43 AM
Incandescent light bulbs be to shelved by 2012 in US


say watt?

Booooooooooooooooo.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6555/norton7atod4.png

earthbrown
12-24-2007, 12:04 PM
an led

I also think LED's would be perfect, except that they are super cheap to produce and last forever, so good luck with GE making those widely available.


K

FUNKMAN
12-24-2007, 12:10 PM
Booooooooooooooooo.



scrooooooooooooooooooooooge

:smile:

FUNKMAN
12-24-2007, 12:13 PM
how many blanks does it take to replace a high-efficiency incandescent light bulb?

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 02:51 PM
As is often the case with environmental issues, there are no really good options.

-The old incandescents are inefficient and waste energy, most of which is produced by burning fossil fuels
-The new florescent style bulbs contain mercury, which when improperly disposed of (which it is most of time) is an environmental pollutant

We could of course increase our use of nuclear energy, which solves most of these issues. But nuclear waste is also a problem (although a manageable one) and Americans have an irrational fear of all things nuclear.

Pick your poison.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 02:51 PM
Good for the environment, but bad for my brother. He's part of the remaining skeleton crew at the GE incandescent bulb plant. They've been laying people off for about 7 or 8 years.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 02:58 PM
And so far, consumers have been slow to give new products a chance. Compact fluorescents, for example, are already ubiquitous in stores. Many retailers, led by Wal-Mart, have promoted the economics of the bulbs — though compact fluorescents generally cost six times what incandescents do, they last six times as long and use far less energy.

Thats because the compact fluorescents suck humongous Donkey cock. I can tell you this from personal experience, both with the Donkeys and the light bulbs. They advertise "GIVES YOU THE SAME LIGHT AS AN 80 WATT BULB!!!!" which is such a fucking lie that if this product wasn't wrapped in environmental feel good bullshit they'd get their pants sued off. MAYBE MAAAAAAYYBE the ones that claim to give the light of an 80 watt give the actual light of a 40 watt bulb . MAYBE. Don't take my word for it, test it out for yourself. Especially in a garage or small room thats lit by a single bulb. THEY SUCK.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 03:01 PM
Good for the environment, but bad for my brother. He's part of the remaining skeleton crew at the GE incandescent bulb plant. They've been laying people off for about 7 or 8 years.

They're not even good the environment. Its a trade off of one poison for another. Read the article.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 03:06 PM
They're not even good the environment. Its a trade off of one poison for another. Read the article.
The poison in the bulbs is not a real threat to anything at all. The energy they save, far outweighs the risk of the materials used. It's funny how no one ever had a complaint about florescent bulbs until they threatened the existence of incandescent ones. They just need to be making them in America, so people can keep their jobs.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 03:12 PM
I guess it's time to start stockpiling old fashioned light bulbs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/business/22light.html?_r=4&ex=1356152400&en=a3bd3c90eb102844&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

I have switched a bunch of the lights in my house to the fancy new kind already but almost all the lights in my house are on dimmer switches so I can't covert many of them.

Crazy times.

They're not too expensive. (http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/%28ftqnj2as2idfyj5533vggu45%29/productdetails.aspx?sku=3237120&source=GoogleBase) It may be 13 bucks up front, but they really do last for years and years. I have a non dimming one that's been in the same lamp (which gets used at least 8 hours a day) for about 6 years. Add that to the savings on your electric bill, and they're actually way cheaper than incandescent.

Chigworthy
12-24-2007, 03:46 PM
I'm incansolable.

OGC
12-24-2007, 03:46 PM
I guess it's time to start stockpiling old fashioned light bulbs.



I've been doing that for years.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2811/bulbs7794312cf73a0lw5.jpg

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 03:47 PM
The poison in the bulbs is not a real threat to anything at all. The energy they save, far outweighs the risk of the materials used. It's funny how no one ever had a complaint about florescent bulbs until they threatened the existence of incandescent ones. They just need to be making them in America, so people can keep their jobs.

From the article

Compact fluorescent lights have problems beyond light quality. They contain mercury, and few recycling centers will accept them. So at the end of life, they still pose an environmental hazard.

“We’re working to reduce mercury, but the amount will never go to zero,” Mr. Petras said.

That is why Mr. Jerabek, for one, calls compact fluorescent lights “a temporary fix.”

Chigworthy
12-24-2007, 03:48 PM
I've been doing that for years.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2811/bulbs7794312cf73a0lw5.jpg

Do you still have your Y2K window plastic and gas mask?

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 03:50 PM
I'd like to know where he bases the statement of "few recycling centers take them". It's simply not true. As long as people don't throw them in the trash, it's OK.

sailor
12-24-2007, 03:50 PM
another thing, once fluorescents take over, i imagine it'll become more common to find recycling options for them.

Chigworthy
12-24-2007, 03:53 PM
I'd like to know where he bases the statement of "few recycling centers take them". It's simply not true. As long as people don't throw them in the trash, it's OK.

Yeah, it's not like fluorescent bulbs haven't been lighting just about every commercial and municipal building for a long whiles. Haven't these bulbs have been around in large quantities for a long time? Plus, backyard wrestlers will have a new way to deliver powdered lead and mercury into their blood streams.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 03:55 PM
I've come to the conclusion that environmentalists are on a mission to replace everything in our life that works with something that doesn't. Toilets that don't flush properly, small, uncomfortable cars that drive like golf carts, and now bulbs that don't light up a room.

I suspect that if you got a blowjob from an environmentalist, you wouldn't be allowed to finish.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 03:56 PM
I've come to the conclusion that environmentalists are on a mission to replace everything in our life that works with something that doesn't work. Toilets that don't flush properly, cars that drive like golf carts and now bulbs that don't light up a room.

I suspect that if you got a blowjob from an environmentalist, you wouldn't be allowed to finish.
What about them doesn't work? They aren't slow to turn on, like people claim, they don't give off unnatural light, like people say, they last damn near forever.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 04:06 PM
another thing, once fluorescents take over, i imagine it'll become more common to find recycling options for them.

Fluorescents have been around forever, and nobody recycles them. I'm sure you have had some fluorescent bulbs around the house at one time or another. Have you ever recycled them? Even one? Do you even know where to go? Neither do I.

BTW-Do you know how much pollution is caused by old computers and cell phones? Have you ever once recycled one of them? Neither have I.

Asking the general public to do this stuff is a fools errand. It just never works.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 04:09 PM
Fluorescents have been around forever, and nobody recycles them. I'm sure you have had some fluorescent bulbs around the house at one time or another. Have you ever recycled them? Even one? Do you even know where to go? Neither do I.

BTW-Do you know how much pollution is caused by old computers and cell phones? Have you ever once recycled one of them? Neither have I.

Asking the general public to do this stuff is a fools errand. It just never works.
I always recycle computers and florescent bulbs. I just take them to the dump. They have about 2 or 3 days per month when you can bring them.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 04:13 PM
What about them doesn't work? They aren't slow to turn on, like people claim, they don't give off unnatural light, like people say, they last damn near forever.

Its just the fact that they don't give off much light. Nowhere NEAR what they claim to. Other than that, they're fine.

I've used some at home and at my business and been very disappointed with the amount of light they give off. The ones that claim to be the same as 80 watt bulbs literally give off less light than a 40 watt regular bulb. They're just awful.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 04:15 PM
How long ago did you try them? The ones I had a few years ago sucked, but the ones I've bought in the last year are super bright. The old ones were also slow to turn on, but the new ones take less than a second.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 04:18 PM
I always recycle computers and florescent bulbs. I just take them to the dump. They have about 2 or 3 days per month when you can bring them.

Good for you. It would be great if everyone else did that, but they don't. For a lot of reasons. I live in NYC. The nearest dump that accepts NYC trash is (I think) somewhere in the outskirts of Pennsylvania.

BTW-You didn't say cell phones. They count too. Heavy metals get into the water supply and eventually make it unsafe to drink.

sailor
12-24-2007, 04:19 PM
Fluorescents have been around forever, and nobody recycles them. I'm sure you have had some fluorescent bulbs around the house at one time or another. Have you ever recycled them? Even one? Do you even know where to go? Neither do I.

BTW-Do you know how much pollution is caused by old computers and cell phones? Have you ever once recycled one of them? Neither have I.

Asking the general public to do this stuff is a fools errand. It just never works.

no, i've never had any. couldn't you just put them out with the rest of your recycling for the gov't to sort out?

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 04:19 PM
How long ago did you try them? The ones I had a few years ago sucked, but the ones I've bought in the last year are super bright. The old ones were also slow to turn on, but the new ones take less than a second.

Recommend a brand to me and I'll try again.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 04:22 PM
Recommend a brand to me and I'll try again.
I always buy GE, because it helps my brother out (even though they don't make them at his plant).

BTW... As for the computers and shit, there's still a problem. Most of that stuff gets shipped to China for recycling, but as you may guess, they don't always really recycle it. With all the heat that's been put on China lately, that may change, though.

Mike Teacher
12-24-2007, 04:55 PM
Popular Mechanics March 2007:

Compact Fluorescent Bulbs and Mercury: Reality Check

In the May 2007 issue of Popular Mechanics, we tested seven popular compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs) and found that the light quality in all of them topped that emitted by traditional incandescent bulbs. Following that lab test, we received a lot of questions from readers regarding the environmental impact of the mercury contained in CFLs. For more of the lowdown on these energy-saving bulbs, we crunched the numbers and checked in with the Department of Energy and Russ Leslie at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

Link Esta Aqui (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4217864.html)

and original article of Lab tests of bulbs:

The Best Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs: PM Lab Test (http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/home_improvement/4215199.html?series=15)

Judging by a quick glance at the comments below the articles; the issue is far from settled.

sailor
12-24-2007, 05:01 PM
from mr teacher's article i found this site (http://earth911.org/) and 4 recycling places that take fluorescents within 6 miles of my home.

Bulldogcakes
12-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Popular Mechanics March 2007:

Compact Fluorescent Bulbs and Mercury: Reality Check

In the May 2007 issue of Popular Mechanics, we tested seven popular compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs) and found that the light quality in all of them topped that emitted by traditional incandescent bulbs. Following that lab test, we received a lot of questions from readers regarding the environmental impact of the mercury contained in CFLs. For more of the lowdown on these energy-saving bulbs, we crunched the numbers and checked in with the Department of Energy and Russ Leslie at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

Link Esta Aqui (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4217864.html)

and original article of Lab tests of bulbs:

The Best Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs: PM Lab Test (http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/home_improvement/4215199.html?series=15)

Judging by a quick glance at the comments below the articles; the issue is far from settled.

Thank you Mike for "shedding some light" on the subject.

. . . . . . . . OK, that sucked.

Like the article says, the old ones were hideous. As was my experience with them. But since there's apparently a new breed of bulbs out there that seem to actually work, I'll def give them another try.

And like everyone else-No, I won't be recycling them.

earthbrown
12-24-2007, 05:57 PM
in the house my grandparents built in like 1959, every light but the outside lights were round fluorescent.

The light that was in the downstairs bathroom constantly running lasted 30 years before they changed it....


K

WRESTLINGFAN
12-24-2007, 05:59 PM
Nice to see our congress at work. Instead of legislating on important issues, Lightbulbs and sterroids in baseball is on the top of their list

No wonder those cunt muscles are at a 19% approval rating

LordJezo
12-24-2007, 09:53 PM
I always recycle computers and florescent bulbs. I just take them to the dump. They have about 2 or 3 days per month when you can bring them.

I think that is more effort than 99% of the people are going to make.

If a bulb breaks we'll all just toss it in the trash and get a new one, having to make special trips just to throw something out is crazy talk.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 09:56 PM
I think that is more effort than 99% of the people are going to make.

If a bulb breaks we'll all just toss it in the trash and get a new one, having to make special trips just to throw something out is crazy talk.
We don't have trash pick up here. I have to go to the dump anyway. I guess being in the sticks makes it easier to do the right thing.

Devo37
12-24-2007, 11:33 PM
how many blanks does it take to replace a high-efficiency incandescent light bulb?

none! they have to call the Haz-Mat team to dispose of them due to the high mercury content! *rimshot*

Chigworthy
12-25-2007, 05:40 AM
We don't have trash pick up here. I have to go to the dump anyway. I guess being in the sticks makes it easier to do the right thing.

I too live in the sticks and there is definitely plenty of recycling, organic farming, and other ecologically-minded activities going on out here. A rural lifestyle is actually a lot more ecologically sound than an urban one.

And I too have recycled bulbs, computers, paint, windows, furniture, and have a reeking pile of delicious compost. Petsmart has postage paid mailers available free for recycling most phones. I think the attitude that no one else does it so why should I is poisonous and lazy.

Bulldogcakes
12-25-2007, 06:41 AM
I think the attitude that no one else does it so why should I is poisonous and lazy.

Call it whatever you wish, thats just reality. Living in the sticks, you have all day to deal with these things. Those of us that live in cities don't. And if you're like PapaBear you have go to the dump anyway. Its real easy to be sanctimonious about something you need to do anyway. I don't have 15 minutes in my typical day to wait for my LUNCH, much less something that will affect people 100 years from now that I'll never know.

The reason why I think its a fools errand is it requires people to be educated enough to understand why it matters, and care enough to do something about it. You will simply never get most Americans in the cities or the sticks to comply with this unless you offer cash for these items or have municipal trash collectors do it for them. Otherwise, as both I and the article stated you're just trading one poison (air pollution) for another (mercury) in this case.

Chigworthy
12-25-2007, 01:21 PM
Living in the sticks, you have all day to deal with these things. Those of us that live in cities don't. And if you're like PapaBear you have go to the dump anyway. Its real easy to be sanctimonious about something you need to do anyway. I don't have 15 minutes in my typical day to wait for my LUNCH, much less something that will affect people 100 years from now that I'll never know.


How do I have more time in my day because I live in a rural location? Is it all the time I save taking garbage to the dump or cutting, splitting, and stacking wood? Or all the mowing and weedwacking, composting, mulching and drainage work that I have to do that really clears up my schedule? I don't know where you get your image of country life from, but it's not Deliverance out here.

There is a pretty good article here (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=1&articleID=00009794-FCDB-1304-B72683414B7F0000) that makes a decent and believable argument that recycling, reusing, and reducing your ecological footprint is actually cheaper than doing things the old fashioned way. Maybe the reason that you mysteriously have every single minute of your day accounted for has something to do indirectly with the inefficient mindset that we will hopefully (and necessarily) shed at some point in the near future.

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 03:35 PM
Living in the sticks, you have all day to deal with these things. Those of us that live in cities don't.
I have to agree with Chigworthy. No offense, BDC, but that's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Do you think non city dwellers have nothing important to do all day? I think you may have a brain cloud.

Bulldogcakes
12-25-2007, 04:40 PM
I have to agree with Chigworthy. No offense, BDC, but that's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Do you think non city dwellers have nothing important to do all day? I think you may have a brain cloud.

Right, because people who live in rural areas are known for leading hectic, fast paced, never a dull moment lives. And New York City is known for its slow, lazy, laid back pace.

Gotcha. What was I thinking. Boy, that was a wacky statement right there.

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Right, because people who live in rural areas are known for leading hectic, fast paced, never a dull moment lives. And New York City is known for its slow, lazy, laid back pace.

Gotcha. What was I thinking. Boy, that was a wacky statement right there.
Explain how life is more hectic in the city than in the country? So we don't have to rush to get on the subway or whatever. We still have shitloads of traffic to deal with. You make no sense.

Bulldogcakes
12-25-2007, 05:03 PM
Explain how life is more hectic in the city than in the country? So we don't have to rush to get on the subway or whatever. We still have shitloads of traffic to deal with. You make no sense.

Sorry, but when a person I'm having a conversation with gets this obtuse where even the most basic, generally accepted generalizations are called "ridiculous" and "a brain cloud", I'm out. There's no point. Next I'll claim the sky is blue and you'll jump all over me for that.

HBox
12-25-2007, 05:03 PM
Explain how life is more hectic in the city than in the country? So we don't have to rush to get on the subway or whatever. We still have shitloads of traffic to deal with. You make no sense.

We all know what you people do all day, sitting on your tractors, listening to Dierks Bentley, caring for your Confederate flag, calling Jimmy Dean and complaining about sausage. The rest of us DON'T DO THESE THINGS!

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 05:05 PM
I got a sausage for you, city boy!



Whew... No mods are online.

sr71blackbird
12-25-2007, 05:19 PM
http://www.ledlightbulb.net/SZHY/JDR_E14_24LED.jpg

I have replaced many of my incandescent bulbs with LED cluster lights like these.
They put out the same light as an incandescent, but use only 5 watts of power tops.
They can last for decades and I got mine on eBay

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 05:26 PM
They've been replacing all the traffic lights with LED's here. I really like them. They're brighter, yet they are somehow less blinding than some old traffic lights can be.

sailor
12-25-2007, 05:32 PM
They've been replacing all the traffic lights with LED's here. I really like them. They're brighter, yet they are somehow less blinding than some old traffic lights can be.

stop talking crazy. they don't have traffic lights outside of the big city.

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 05:34 PM
stop talking crazy. they don't have traffic lights outside of the big city.
Do you honestly think the cows can handle it without the lights?

sailor
12-25-2007, 05:38 PM
Do you honestly think the cows can handle it without the lights?

wouldn't the lights keep them up all night?

PapaBear
12-25-2007, 05:40 PM
Party cows. You know we all do meth in the sticks.

sailor
12-25-2007, 05:50 PM
Party cows. You know we all do meth in the sticks.

that and strummin' yer banjos.

http://tampa.creativeloafing.com/binary/77a3/music_feature1-1_36.jpg

HBox
12-25-2007, 07:45 PM
wouldn't the lights keep them up all night?

Not to mention that the people would be amazed that there's light out at night. They'd think there's ghosts or something.

epo
12-25-2007, 09:43 PM
I suspect that if you got a blowjob from an environmentalist, you wouldn't be allowed to finish.

Bulldogcakes....you gotta try these hippy chicks, they really are quite good and always seem to swallow.

Chigworthy
12-26-2007, 01:19 PM
Right, because people who live in rural areas are known for leading hectic, fast paced, never a dull moment lives. And New York City is known for its slow, lazy, laid back pace.

Gotcha. What was I thinking. Boy, that was a wacky statement right there.

You've distilled all of the ignorance of your first post down to this concentrated stereotype. Pardon me, I've got to go check the still.

Jujubees2
12-26-2007, 01:34 PM
We could of course increase our use of nuclear energy, which solves most of these issues. But nuclear waste is also a problem (although a manageable one) and Americans have an irrational fear of all things nuclear.

Pick your poison.

Huh, what is your answer to "manageable" nuclear waste? Bury it somewhere and then wait hundreds of thousands of years for it to be safe?

Zorro
12-26-2007, 03:22 PM
I kinda dig people with no time to recycle, but tons to post to a message board.

scottinnj
12-26-2007, 06:43 PM
don't know of that and those (not doubting, i just don't have knowledge) but the regular fluorescents are way worth it economically. you pay much less for electricity and they last a lot longer.


A boatload longer. I have a flourescent kitchen light, flourescent replacement bulbs in my porchlight, and my stairwell is flourescent. The only thing I have had to replace is the ballast in the stairwell, and that was 4 years ago.

TheMojoPin
12-26-2007, 06:51 PM
Sorry, but when a person I'm having a conversation with gets this obtuse where even the most basic, generally accepted generalizations are called "ridiculous" and "a brain cloud", I'm out. There's no point. Next I'll claim the sky is blue and you'll jump all over me for that.

You were making baseless and ridiculous assumptions about people you don't know at all.

PapaBear
12-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Sorry, but when a person I'm having a conversation with gets this obtuse where even the most basic, generally accepted generalizations are called "ridiculous" and "a brain cloud", I'm out. There's no point. Next I'll claim the sky is blue and you'll jump all over me for that.
Basic, generally accepted generalizations? Where, exactly? I stand by my comments. You could at least try to make an attempt to give some example of how life is more hectic in the city. You've given me nothing.

scottinnj
12-27-2007, 05:10 PM
They just need to be making them in America, so people can keep their jobs.

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!



http://static.flickr.com/39/84794196_1ffc979d41.jpg

scottinnj
12-31-2007, 10:09 PM
This apparently is the oldest known bulb that is still working:

http://www.opticalpoptitude.com/pics/centbulb.jpg


It is at the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Company, and it has it's own webcam (http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm). It's been on reportedly 24/7 since 1901. I wonder how much energy the fire department would have saved if it had been a compact-flourescent since the start?


Global Warming? I blame the firefighters.

sailor
02-07-2008, 05:04 AM
interesting article (http://www.slate.com/id/2183606) on the mercury impact of cfl's (they're actually better than incandescents in that regard). also, you can apparently recycle the bulbs at ikea.

LordJezo
02-07-2008, 05:07 AM
Can someone post more info on the LED lights that were mentioned in this thread? Where can you buy them? I have been looking around but can't find a thing, I want to try one out in a standard twist socket lamp to see how it is. They are only supposed to use a few cents of electricity a year or something, right?

sailor
02-07-2008, 05:16 AM
Can someone post more info on the LED lights that were mentioned in this thread? Where can you buy them? I have been looking around but can't find a thing, I want to try one out in a standard twist socket lamp to see how it is. They are only supposed to use a few cents of electricity a year or something, right?

internet search? (http://www.google.com/products?q=led+light+bulbs+home&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1)

PapaBear
04-06-2008, 09:36 PM
I just replaced the incandescent R-30 type flood bulbs in the track lighting in my room with the equivalent fluorescents. I wasn't even using them before. I liked the light that I got from them, but they were a combined 390 Watts. That's a lot of electric usage, not to mention how hot they made my room.

With the new floods, they burn a combined 96 Watts (though they give out the same light as the old floods), and almost no heat is emitted. When purchased in two packs, the floods cost $5 each and are estimated to last 7 years at 3-4 hours a day. In reality, I will probably burn them 6-8 hours a day, but at that rate, 3 and half years is pretty damn good.

I'm pretty damn happy!:thumbup:

LordJezo
06-30-2009, 04:55 AM
It continues..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/29/AR2009062902499_pf.html

Jujubees2
06-30-2009, 05:02 AM
It continues..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/29/AR2009062902499_pf.html

Yeah, really sucks that he' slooking to save the U.S. consumers billions and cut down on the use of fossil fuels.

Obama said the new efficiency standards he was announcing for lamps would result in substantial savings between 2012 and 2042, saving consumers up to $4 billion annually, conserving enough energy to power every U.S. home for 10 months, reducing emissions equal to the amount produced by 166 million cars a year, and eliminating the need for as many as 14 coal-fired power plants.

The Jays
06-30-2009, 06:16 AM
He's Trampling On Our Freedom To Use 500 Watt Bulbs For Our Desk Lamps!

PapaBear
07-24-2009, 08:58 PM
Though I'm still all for florescent bulbs, this 2012 law is hitting close to home (http://www.winchesterstar.com/showarticle_new.php?sID=6&foldername=20090724&file=ge.html), now.

The plant, which opened on Apple Valley Road south of Winchester in 1975, is the last of GE’s U.S. facilities dedicated to incandescent light bulb production, said Debbie Wexler, communications manager for the company.

My brother has been there almost 25 years. At first, it looked like he didn't qualify for early retirement, but there's a loophole. If you turn 50 by the end of the year that a plant closes, you qualify. He turns 50 on December 30th of next year. Looks like he made it by two days!

jennysmurf
07-24-2009, 09:29 PM
But I look my best in incandescent lighting! Flourescent is terrible! Who cares about the environment? Flourescent is evil and was invented by jealous ugly people.

hanso
07-24-2009, 10:56 PM
Increase in mercury poisoning to start in 2013

boosterp
07-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Increase in mercury poisoning to start in 2013

Good ol' mercury vapor FTW!

hanso
07-25-2009, 09:10 AM
The powder residue is just what we need in all our landfills.

Syd
07-25-2009, 03:44 PM
world ends in 2012 anyway, ain't no thang

angrymissy
07-25-2009, 03:57 PM
Increase in mercury poisoning to start in 2013

http://environmentalblogging.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cfl-mercury-incandescent.jpg