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sailor
12-28-2007, 10:14 AM
jim leyritz arrested (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22420556/) for vehicular homicide and possible dui in ft. lauderdale.

Hottub
12-28-2007, 10:17 AM
Leyritz was arrested after refusing to take a Breathalyzer test, police said, the station reported. He was booked at 4:30 a.m

Judge, jury and executioner.
Guilty!

King Hippos Bandaid
12-28-2007, 10:20 AM
I blame steriods

sailor
12-28-2007, 10:22 AM
202 just ran an anti-dui promo. ironic.

The Nature Boy
12-28-2007, 10:40 AM
The King is now the The Killer

Earlshog
12-28-2007, 10:44 AM
202 just ran an anti-dui promo. ironic.


a little toooooo ironic, yeah I really do think

Marc with a c
12-28-2007, 10:47 AM
202 just ran an anti-dui promo. ironic.

it would be ironic if he killed mark wohlers

King Hippos Bandaid
12-28-2007, 10:50 AM
it would be ironic if he killed mark wohlers

nah Rain on your Wedding Day is more ironic

Earlshog
12-28-2007, 11:05 AM
nah Rain on your Wedding Day is more ironic

is it ironic that rain on your wedding day isn't ironic...

sailor
12-28-2007, 11:09 AM
it would be ironic if he killed mark wohlers

who's saying he didn't?

Marc with a c
12-28-2007, 11:32 AM
who's saying he didn't?

phishy said. he's friends with him too.

NortonRules
12-28-2007, 11:45 AM
Iconic.

sailor
12-28-2007, 05:07 PM
phishy said. he's friends with him too.

want his mlb.com email?

Ritalin
12-28-2007, 05:35 PM
phishy said. he's friends with him too.

want his mlb.com email?

Hey, can we just remember that an innocent person is dead?

Ah, I'm just kidding.

TeeBone
12-28-2007, 05:42 PM
jim leyritz arrested (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22420556/) for vehicular homicide and possible dui in ft. lauderdale.

Having spent a few years in the FTL area, I can understand the uncontrollable drinking, but why in the hell would you drive like that?
What a Shit.
It’s doubtful a legal dream-team can get him out of this. Broward County is arguably one the most liberal counties in South Florida, but its still Florida and Jimbo might see some jail time, for a long time.

TeeBone
12-28-2007, 05:43 PM
it would be ironic if he killed mark wohlers

Late entry for line of the year.

scottinnj
12-28-2007, 06:33 PM
Leyritz was charged with DUI manslaughter and DUI property damage, said Detective Kathy Collins, Fort Lauderdale police spokeswoman. He posted the $11,000 bond and was released from Broward County jail.


Oooooo.....DUI manslaughter. That's a biggie.

Superior Court Judge Michael Donio sentenced Paula Cicchinelli, a widowed grandmother with no previous record, to 15 years in prison Thursday for the drunken hit-and-run death of a Somers Point teen. After the sentencing, Cicchinelli, 58, with tears in her eyes, put her hands behind her back and was handcuffed and taken away.

I can't get the link because my local paper has "archived" the story online and you have to subscribe to get it. Basically this lady was trashed, hit and killed a kid, and drove home with a shattered windshield. Her explanation was that she thought a bird hit her windshield. 58 and got 15 years.

Doctor Z
12-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I was about to start this thread and name it "Leyritz Ruins Life"... Man, this one's fucked up.

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 07:39 PM
Oooooo.....DUI manslaughter. That's a biggie.



I can't get the link because my local paper has "archived" the story online and you have to subscribe to get it. Basically this lady was trashed, hit and killed a kid, and drove home with a shattered windshield. Her explanation was that she thought a bird hit her windshield. 58 and got 15 years.

Big difference between hit and run and staying at the scene of the accident. Hit and Run means no remorse. Also, with Florida's jail population and no record, I don't think she'd be serving all that time.

Also, Leyritz can probably afford better lawyers she can, although Leyritz has gone on record about taking drugs, so he's really fucked.

His out may be - if they do an autopsy on the dead girl, and if I'm Leyritz' lawyer, that's the first thing I'd do - I'd hope she was drinking or had drugs in her system. If you're driving around at 3am in the "entertainment district", chances are she may have being driving drunk too.

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 07:42 PM
The sad part about this is, I really like Leyritz and I kill Leonard Little for what he did. But now Leyritz is in the same category. It's a damn shame. Although if the other driver was wearing her seatbelt, she'd be alive and looking at an AWESOME lawsuit from Leyritz.

scottinnj
12-28-2007, 07:48 PM
Although if the other driver was wearing her seatbelt, she'd be alive and looking at an AWESOME lawsuit from Leyritz.


Coulda Shoulda Woulda....

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 07:48 PM
Judge, jury and executioner.
Guilty!

Story says he refused a BLOOD test, not breathalyzer. Where did you see Breathalyzer?

For someone like Leyritz, who's gone on record about taking speed, this is something to consider.

Hottub
12-28-2007, 07:50 PM
The story said breathalyzer.

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 08:15 PM
The story said breathalyzer.

You may want to post in Post Purgatory about finding another nice way to tell me to shut the fuck up, but the word "Breathalyzer" does not appear in the MSNBC story. And every news story I've been reading says blood test, not breathalyzer. And besides, taking a breathalyzer at least 90 minutes after the accident severely degrades the chance he was legally drunk.

Something is not quite right with this story.

earthbrown
12-28-2007, 08:21 PM
hopefully he is a catcher in prison too....

I have no respect for those who fail to drive drunk safely.


K

Marc with a c
12-28-2007, 08:21 PM
matty is right

sailor
12-28-2007, 08:33 PM
The police said he failed roadside field-sobriety exercises like walking and touching his finger to his nose, and he also refused to take a Breathalyzer test.

breathalyzer (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/29/sports/29leyritz.html?_r=1&ref=baseball&oref=slogin)

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 08:34 PM
BTW, just to make things clear here:

The reason why Leyritz may have been hesistant to take a Blood test is because there's a chance there's drugs in his system. If he smoked up during the holidays, that'll show up and even if he wasn't legally drunk, the prosector will go after him on that instead and really try to fuck him, even though he wasn't "high" at the time of the accident.

Then again, for all I know he was a .22 BAC. But something's wrong here.

sailor
12-28-2007, 08:34 PM
Then again, for all I know he was a .22 BAC. But something's wrong here.

or it was a breathalyzer

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 08:36 PM
breathalyzer (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/29/sports/29leyritz.html?_r=1&ref=baseball&oref=slogin)

Something as juicy as that ESPN would have picked up on. Something, again, is wrong.

Tenbatsuzen
12-28-2007, 09:34 PM
http://www.pagesix.com/story/exclusive+jim+leyritz+knew+his+victim

Erica Chevillar? The same chick from the WWE Diva Search??

Lumber
12-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I`m not surprized..

King Hippos Bandaid
12-29-2007, 05:50 AM
matty is right
Mod Quo, oh wait

lleeder
12-29-2007, 06:21 AM
Is it too early to say the Post headline would be " Yankee Clipped Her"? Just asking.

Tenbatsuzen
02-01-2008, 06:35 PM
His out may be - if they do an autopsy on the dead girl, and if I'm Leyritz' lawyer, that's the first thing I'd do - I'd hope she was drinking or had drugs in her system. If you're driving around at 3am in the "entertainment district", chances are she may have being driving drunk too.

Once again, I am awesome. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3226661)

high fly
02-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Leyritz?
Never heard of him.

Whch one was he?

Patron Saint of AFF
02-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Back at the track at the wall you are dead!!!

PapaBear
02-01-2008, 09:01 PM
When I glanced at the thread title, I thought it said Lenny Kravits.

high fly
02-01-2008, 10:05 PM
"You'll love it at Levitts!"

scottinnj
02-01-2008, 10:13 PM
"You'll love it at Levitts!"

HA HA HA! I remember that jingle! Thank God for XM Radio!


"Take the wheel of your automobile, and swing on down to....Ideal!"

PapaBear
02-01-2008, 10:15 PM
"You'll love it at Levitts!"

HA HA HA! I remember that jingle! Thank God for XM Radio!


"Take the wheel of your automobile, and swing on down to....Ideal!"

Weird thing is, until just now, I always thought Levitz was only a DC area store. I looked it up, and they're in like 7 or 8 states.

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 10:10 AM
OOPs didn't realize the story had been posted yesterday. Sorry !!

Not that this changes the issue much, since he did run a redlight, but i think it should make a difference in how he's sentenced.

When the victim is more drunk than the defendant it should come into play.

I know it sucks because kids are still w/out their mother and a husband is w/out his wife but I guess it somehow makes the whole thing a little less tragic.

I think what it also does is jeopardize any chance the family has of winning any sort of civil settlement.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3226661

Tenbatsuzen
02-02-2008, 10:12 AM
OOPs didn't realize the story had been posted yesterday. Sorry !!

Not that this changes the issue much, since he did run a redlight, but i think it should make a difference in how he's sentenced.

When the victim is more drunk than the defendant it should come into play.

I know it sucks because kids are still w/out their mother and a husband is w/out his wife but I guess it somehow makes the whole thing a little less tragic.

I think what it also does is jeopardize any chance the family has of winning any sort of civil settlement.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3226661

Right. I'm not saying that he's not going to be found guilty of DUI - he's guilty up and down the board. But the fact that she was drunk drastically changes sentencing and a bunch of other factors.

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 10:15 AM
It's a shitty situation either way.

It's tough to be like " oh well screw her she was no angel ", which I kinda wanted to do, because of the external family issues.

sailor
02-02-2008, 10:24 AM
Right. I'm not saying that he's not going to be found guilty of DUI - he's guilty up and down the board. But the fact that she was drunk drastically changes sentencing and a bunch of other factors.

except as drunk as she was, he was the one who ran a red light.

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 10:34 AM
But the argument could be made, and probably will be made, that maybe if she wasn't drunk she might have been able to see him coming and avoided the crash in someway.

Reasonable doubt is all they'd need and a .18 BAC is a reasonable doubt.

sailor
02-02-2008, 10:36 AM
anyway, how do they know he ran a red (i just know i read that somewhere)? do they have footage or witnesses?

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 10:45 AM
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but if they don't have video evidence ( through some traffic cam ) they'd have to have some eyewitnesses.

If this was the entertainment district there had to be people around.

Plus since there was a fatality I'm sure the accident investigators did a thorough investigation and they'd be able to tell what happened.

Tenbatsuzen
02-02-2008, 11:17 AM
except as drunk as she was, he was the one who ran a red light.

But the argument could be made, and probably will be made, that maybe if she wasn't drunk she might have been able to see him coming and avoided the crash in someway.

Reasonable doubt is all they'd need and a .18 BAC is a reasonable doubt.

The argument will be following:

1) If she was drunk, she shouldn't have been on the road
2) Since she was drunk, her own driving was impaired.
3) She she was drunk, her judgment was impaired that she wasn't wearing her seatbelt
4) If she was wearing her seatbelt, she would not have been killed in the accident.

Information might have been suppressed too. Even if he went through the red light, she might have been speeding. She might have been in the wrong lane. There is a lot of stuff we don't know.

Leyritz will get nailed for DUI, no one is denying that at this point. As for vehicular homicide, he'll plead down and get something with minimal, if any, jail time. Any possible civil suit has been destroyed.

sailor
02-02-2008, 11:33 AM
her being drunk is irrelevant to his running a red light. if her not having a seatbelt is important, it would have been either way. your speculation as to what might possibly have happened is a bit silly. if they suppressed details (which we don't know they did) there's a limitless array of what those facts could be. they could either help or hinder his case, but you assuming these possible facts are all in his favor.

Tenbatsuzen
02-02-2008, 11:59 AM
her being drunk is irrelevant to his running a red light. if her not having a seatbelt is important, it would have been either way. your speculation as to what might possibly have happened is a bit silly. if they suppressed details (which we don't know they did) there's a limitless array of what those facts could be. they could either help or hinder his case, but you assuming these possible facts are all in his favor.

If she's illegally driving at the time he runs the red, it's more than relevant. It doesn't mean that Leyritz gets off scot-free, but it changes the entire case.

If details are suppressed in the case, the only details at this point that could be possibly suppressed are ones that make the victim look bad. Not the defendant.

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 12:01 PM
I don't think he means evidence is being hidden as in a conspiracy I think he means more like we don't have all of the evidence that would be seen in court.

Her being drunk will be as much a factor as him running the redlight because people have accidents after running redlights every day and don't die.

That's mostly due to their ability to limit the effects of a crash by breaking, swerving, etc ...

There's no way her .18 BAC will not be a factor.

Bossanova
02-02-2008, 12:21 PM
At the very least Leyritz is probably gonna lose his license for a few months. :dry:

lighten up everyone. He is a self centered asshole who should be in prison for what he did.

So if a coke addict picks up a gun and kills another person high on coke. They should get off too huh?

He was drunken driving which makes his vehicle a weapon. She is dead. He must go to jail.

JimBeam
02-02-2008, 12:30 PM
Boss I understand your point but the analogy is way off.

Who's to say him hitting her didn't prevent her from running into and killing another person in a car because she was drunk ?

Obvioulsy it's speculation but it could've happened.

If she's not drunk maybe she sees Leyritz's car approaching the intersection faster than it should and she hesitates.

Tenbatsuzen
02-02-2008, 12:48 PM
Also, let's say she was speeding excessively. Even if Leyritz is drunk as a skunk, but she's plowing through that intersection fast, her actions are also contributing to her death.

We're not saying that Leyritz is an angel. But there's a lot of other factors here.

high fly
02-02-2008, 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by high fly
"You'll love it at Levitts!"


Originally Posted by scottinnj
HA HA HA! I remember that jingle! Thank God for XM Radio!


"Take the wheel of your automobile, and swing on down to....Ideal!"



Weird thing is, until just now, I always thought Levitz was only a DC area store. I looked it up, and they're in like 7 or 8 states.


I have a vague recollection of the owner and his wife doing commercials.

Reminds me of Sy Syms...........

Marc with a c
07-28-2008, 04:27 PM
oh jimmy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/07/26/2008-07-26_video_of_dui_test_shows_former_yankee_ji.html

Freitag
11-18-2010, 01:12 PM
Vehicular homicide while impaired charge dropped because there was testimony today that Leyritz had another shot to calm down after the crash, which spiked his BAC at the hospital when they tested him.

Also, there's been testimony that Leyritz was not speeding.

He's going to get off.

Earlshog
11-20-2010, 10:03 AM
Florida jury acquits Leyritz of DUI manslaughter in 2007 accident


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/20/leyritz.dui.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

hanso
11-20-2010, 02:53 PM
Vehicular homicide while impaired is a free pass for celebs.

Tenbatsuzen
11-20-2010, 06:56 PM
Vehicular homicide while impaired is a free pass for celebs.

Not necessarily. In each incident, there was extenuating circumstances.

Leyritz couldn't be convicted beyond a shadow of a doubt. The other driver was drunk, the testimony the prosecution's experts had was faulty, and all they could prove is that Leyritz was DUI, but not that he was the cause of the accident.

He's paying the family, he's probably going to go to jail for a bit... I think that's fair. The other driver was also DUI, not wearing her seatbelt, and possibly didn't have her headlights on, and was texting.

PapaBear
11-20-2010, 07:02 PM
The other driver was also DUI, not wearing her seatbelt, and possibly didn't have her headlights on, and was texting.
That sounds like Jim Carrey when he got pulled over in Liar Liar.

hanso
11-21-2010, 06:59 AM
It sounds like most drivers in that town. And why I try not to drive there.

spoon
11-21-2010, 09:12 AM
Is there any real doubt this fuck shouldn't be in jail for a long time? Very similar in ways to the Stallworth case in that some other issues clouded a sure crime. It doesn't make his crime any less heinous and the creep should be laughed out of court with claims like a "late shot" spiked his bac. If you're that stupid, it's on you.

hanso
11-21-2010, 09:31 AM
What was Brandy's excuse for vehicle manslaughter?

I see a trend here.

Tenbatsuzen
11-21-2010, 10:01 AM
What was Brandy's excuse for vehicle manslaughter?

I see a trend here.

There is no trend, that accident:

1) Brandy wasn't DUI.

2) The woman that died hit the car in front of her first, and then Brandy hit her.

Tenbatsuzen
11-21-2010, 10:03 AM
Is there any real doubt this fuck shouldn't be in jail for a long time? Very similar in ways to the Stallworth case in that some other issues clouded a sure crime. It doesn't make his crime any less heinous and the creep should be laughed out of court with claims like a "late shot" spiked his bac. If you're that stupid, it's on you.

There was haziness on that part. Some people reported that Leyritz had the shot BEFORE the accident, other sources reported Leyritz had the shot AFTER the accident but before the test at the hospital to calm down.

I agree the "concussion slowed down his alcohol absorption" was complete bullshit, but if you review some of the testimony the prosecution had, their "experts" were woefully underprepared and had conflicting testimony.

hanso
11-22-2010, 04:29 PM
Celebs get off the hook for vehicle manslaughter. Sugar coat it all you want. Vince Neil Go ahead break that one down. Rick Sanchez, Laura Bush the list goes on.

PapaBear
11-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Celebs get off the hook for vehicle manslaughter. Sugar coat it all you want. Vince Neil Go ahead break that one down. Rick Sanchez, Laura Bush the list goes on.
Laura Bush wasn't exactly a celebrity when she did it.

JimBeam
12-09-2010, 06:55 AM
There was haziness on that part. Some people reported that Leyritz had the shot BEFORE the accident, other sources reported Leyritz had the shot AFTER the accident but before the test at the hospital to calm down.

I agree the "concussion slowed down his alcohol absorption" was complete bullshit, but if you review some of the testimony the prosecution had, their "experts" were woefully underprepared and had conflicting testimony.

If he was in custody of the police or at least being watched there should've been no way for him to do a shot after the accident unless he did it right after it happned.

He should've been monitored before being given the breathalyzer ( although I believe they took blood )

What I also find disturbing is that years of " science " behind BAC are now being called into question.

The law is, or at least should be, that if the alcohol is in your system at the time of detention than you're guilty. None of this " Well it actually wouldn't be in there until after a few hours. "

I hope this prick dies a slow painful death.