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The Nature Boy
02-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Had the occasion due to a lot of traveling today to hear almost the entirety of all these shows. Hats off to all of them doing on servicable show and doing their thing for us, it is appreciated and I hope we can do it again soon. That said, the comparison is inevitable, and I'm looking at them two ways personally: Actual Podcast and Future Potential. My rankings:

Sundays Show
1. The Hideout: The most professional and efficent, not suprisingly based on their history. For the first time though, I listened and I wasn't force feeding it and trying to like it. The Yardstick of Death was a PHENOMENAL premise and they actually could have milked it longer. Jefe channels a lot of Ron, but who's a better person to channel. This should be their demo, just a dynamite show. I was cringing initally with their tie-in to R&F at the start, but it all ended well and was solid.

2. Fred From Brooklyn: A big suprise, but he's definatley a natural on the stick. With no support crew around him to bounce off, this is VERY impressive for a first time effort. He had me inspired, he had me on my heels emotionally and he had me laughing. Ran out of steam about 40 minutes in or so, but very intriguing kickoff.

3. The Blowhard: Another suprise. I know he'd gotten some opportunties and Ronnie's pushed for him for a long time, I think I finally saw some of the possibility with him today and he strung together a cohesive, interesting show. He gets major points for basically being solo on a podcast, and to make an hour intersesting when you're basically alone is no small feat and he pulled it off today. Better than I expected.

4. High Society: A little disappointing. Just a little flat and meandering, although, the funniest bit of the entire day was their Rambo segment at the end. I laughed through most of that and it salvaged a bit of a muddled and confused Act II. They started ok enough. I don't know if they smoked a bone before the show, but the focus took a while to kick in.

5. CT and Jivin: If I were grading, I'd trend toward an incomplete, because I only heard the first 20 minutes. It was painfully pedestrian and mundane, and there was really no hook to it. I'm going to listen to the final 40 minutes so I'll reserve the right to amend my ranking, but yeah, uhhh

6. Best in Show: Just insanely awful. I've been hit or miss with my R&F listening, so I'll confess I don't know exactly who or what this show is, but it was like a third rate college station. I was half suprised these guys didn't start doing vocal effects in the studio. I listened only because I had the idea to rank in my mind. Never gained an ounce of steam.


Potential:

1.(Tie) Fred From Brooklyn/High Society: Hate to split the vote, but its really a two way consideration. Fred has probably the greater, more varied talk potential, but if the Virus had to add a show tomorrow, I think the best long term investment would be in High Society. They have the one quality that you can't teach, and thats funniness. How they would do under terrestial constraints, I don't know, not only do they curse a lot but the content is pretty rough at times, but in shows like this, laughter is the key. Fred is a real interesting case, because I could envision him in almost a more rationale Michael Savage situation. Savage, for all his vitriol, is actually the most compelling radio listen of any of these guys, he's got a little Jean Shepard in him, and Fred, for a first timer, is just off the charts impressive in echoing both of those tall talents. I can hear life and experience in the rich Brooklyn timber of his voice, and like Mr. B, there is no artifice to what they bring. Fred could probably use someone to bounce off and could better strutcure the flow, but this is something that takes YEARS to hone, and its a minor quibble. Definately deserving of more time.

3. The Hideout: Sad to say, they've gotten plenty of opportunities and exposure, so despite todays quality, that should be expected. They have have reached their ceiling nad it may simply not be that high. But I have to say, if I have a slow Saturday and its a weak night on 202, I would look their way again. I know J dubs taking a beating has been somewhat their act recently, and it sounded a bit too reminscent of the buddays, but they could have a future.

4. The Blowhard: Might be a nice weekend show on WABC in New York. Some politics, some nostalgia and some experience. What I liked best about the Blowhard tonight was that he had an opinion, he laid it out and he spoke with passion about it. I don't agree with his thought about Obama, for instance, but he got the message across without getting lost in the point, and he exhibitied a feel for pacing and flow. That's a quality thats hard to teach, and is really intuitive considering you don't have callers to bounce off.

5. CT and Jivin: Hard to tell who's who on this show, and they hit all the notes of doing a show of this genre, but its almost like its two straightmen talking. Like a slightly hipper Don and Mike. They could definately stand to weave in a third mike comic relief. As constituted, I don't see them going anywhere, they need a little juice.

6. Best In Show: Once again, not to pick on these guys too much, but there just ain't much to work with here. If they are happy and have some fans doing their podcast, more power to them and keep at it, but they don't deserve 202 time. Its actually very hard to believe they had 2 years of experience doing these podcasts, it was so amateurish and awful, I can't imagine how bad it must have been the first year. They seem like nice guys I guess, but radio is not for them.


what did you guys think?

Coach
02-17-2008, 11:48 PM
5. CT and Jivin: Hard to tell who's who on this show, and they hit all the notes of doing a show of this genre, but its almost like its two straightmen talking. Like a slightly hipper Don and Mike. They could definately stand to weave in a third mike comic relief. As constituted, I don't see them going anywhere, they need a little juice.you missed the part where they got the name of the night wrong...Night Of 1000 Podcasts!
HIGH SOCIETY ruled!:clap::clap::clap::

DJNewStyle
02-18-2008, 06:26 AM
Well, this thread has already lost credibility. Fred From Brooklyn #2? Come on. He didn't even do a full hour.

#1. Best In Show

FANDICK
02-18-2008, 06:37 AM
Had the occasion due to a lot of traveling today to hear almost the entirety of all these shows. Hats off to all of them doing on servicable show and doing their thing for us, it is appreciated and I hope we can do it again soon. That said, the comparison is inevitable, and I'm looking at them two ways personally: Actual Podcast and Future Potential. My rankings:...


...2. Fred From Brooklyn: A big suprise, but he's definatley a natural on the stick. With no support crew around him to bounce off, this is VERY impressive for a first time effort. He had me inspired, he had me on my heels emotionally and he had me laughing. Ran out of steam about 40 minutes in or so, but very intriguing kickoff.

You MUST be joking...or high.

MadMatt
02-18-2008, 06:41 AM
You MUST be joking...or high.

...or Fred.

FANDICK
02-18-2008, 06:44 AM
...or Fred.

:laugh:

King Hippos Bandaid
02-18-2008, 06:53 AM
High Society and he Hideout were tops

Imissed CT and Jivin


Blowhard rambled but was not too bad

Fred from Brooklyn was a train wreck from minute one

we get it, you were an original pest, and used pal talk and fba shout outs as a crutch

Fred good in person, good as a caller, bad as a pod casts, its ok

atleast you gave it a shot

NortonRules
02-18-2008, 06:58 AM
High Society was ok. Still too many people with the same voice on that show. Can't tell who's who (besides Johnny). Johnny's JFK thing was the highlight.

Fred from Brooklyn was obsessed with kissing Ron's ass and obsessed with patting himself on the back. His co-host's speaking was unintelligable. I enjoyed the first 4 minutes, then it fell apart.

Didn't hear the other shows yet.

BrownTown
02-18-2008, 07:08 AM
I think High Society was the stand-out, but I was already a fan - I got what I expected.

IamPixie
02-18-2008, 07:36 AM
my top 2 were high society and the Hideout.

The Missing Link
02-18-2008, 07:46 AM
The Blowhard was the highlight for me. I'm joining whatever militia he's in.:clap:

DiabloSammich
02-18-2008, 07:52 AM
The Blowhard was the highlight for me. I'm joining whatever militia he's in.:clap:


I think Blowhard has potential, but he needs an anti-Blowhard to play off of. Keep him moving and tone down some of his more insane proclamations.

IamPixie
02-18-2008, 07:53 AM
I think Blowhard has potential, but he needs an anti-Blowhard to play off of. Keep him moving and tone down some of his more insane proclamations.

that's actually a really good idea.

DiabloSammich
02-18-2008, 07:55 AM
that's actually a really good idea.



I think the Blowhard and Pixie show would do gangbusters.

ronreddog
02-18-2008, 07:58 AM
I heard all 6 podcasts, and I will just say that High Society topped it for me, followed by Best in Show.

I thought Fred made a good effort, and the rest just did not do it for me.

Franklyn
02-18-2008, 08:09 AM
heard them all have to give it to Best in Show. The get the edge because I didn't know them.

The Nature Boy
02-18-2008, 08:10 AM
I heard all 6 podcasts, and I will just say that High Society topped it for me, followed by Best in Show.

I thought Fred made a good effort, and the rest just did not do it for me.

Well, this thread has already lost credibility. Fred From Brooklyn #2? Come on. He didn't even do a full hour.

#1. Best In Show

I'm all for dissent and disagreement on this one, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts and rank, but I'm flummoxed on this one boys, Best in Show that high? What am I missing there?

happytypinggirl
02-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Its hard to compare the newbs to the old pros and 'rank' them, so i'll just give an opinion.

High Society. I agree with what was said about High Society. It does degenerate into too many same voices sometimes. There is a fine line between being a show that sounds like a bunch of guys hanging out and talking, and just being a bunch of guys hanging out and talking and the show goes on both sides of the line at times. But its a really good show. The 'this moment in history' was fantastic. Gotta love BJ. I didn't hear the whole thing. Gotta tune in again.

CT&Jiven and The Hideout. I kinda faded in and out listening to all the afternoon shows, and im not sure if that was their fault or mine, so its hard to judge them fairly. I think it was the Hideout that dedicated their show to making Fez feel better, and i kept getting a little lost in the whole 'talking to fez' thing. But they have a great sound and flow/vibe. I expected to hate ct&jiven and they definitely were more together than i expected.

I paid a lot more attention to the 9-12 shows.

Best in Show was a huge hit in the paltalk room. I wasn't completely on board. Some of it was a bit goofy to me,but everyone else LOVED it. Overall, I liked it and would tune in again. And there were a few moments that were laugh out loud funny.

Blowhards show was great. I like that he didn't try to do the AFRO formula. It seems like everyone wants to do a show about guys talking and i get that. You want to emulate what you like. But its nice to hear something different. He was professional, and interesting, and i wouldn't want him to moderate his political views. I like that he's controversial. I agree with him often, and when i dont, i yell at my radio. Thats a good show. I'd listen again for sure.

Fred came off as nervous and scattered to me, which is okay-- who wouldn't be for a first time show? But the arrogance gimmick and the anger and the yelling at his cohost turned me off, and i have to admit it bothered me that he complained about getting stuck with Earl. What was started as something that was supposed to be a fun-- lets see what happens thing, suddenly became a life changing new career, and you're either on the team or go fuck yourself...which makes it hard to give the ole-- support a fellow fan with a 'good job, pat on the back' attitude. And yet despite all that, i'd tune in again in a heartbeat. The- tune in to hear what crazy thing will fred do next- element is definitely there.

ronreddog
02-18-2008, 08:21 AM
I'm all for dissent and disagreement on this one, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts and rank, but I'm flummoxed on this one boys, Best in Show that high? What am I missing there?

I thought their one hour flowed well, which is why I thought they did well. I never heard them before, which may have influenced my decision.

High Society also have that cohesion amongst them. Although I have heard CT and Jivin, and El Jefe and J-Dubs before, I just did not think they were as good.

Blowhard and Fred showed that they are rookies. They could do better, if they worked at it.

happytypinggirl
02-18-2008, 08:32 AM
oh and as much as i love hearing the seasoned shows, i'd love to hear from more newbs getting their first shot. it can be just as interesting to hear people be awful and realize it isn't as easy as it looks.

ronreddog
02-18-2008, 08:37 AM
oh and as much as i love hearing the seasoned shows, i'd love to hear from more newbs getting their first shot. it can be just as interesting to hear people be awful and realize it isn't as easy as it looks.

I totally agree! It takes a lot of balls to do what Blowhard and Fred did, I know I couldn't do it, I just don't have the talent to get behind a mic and attempt to entertain an audience.

I would love to see this again, with some other people doing it. Ronnie B. is the best, he put together a great 6 hours of radio.

Franklyn
02-18-2008, 08:47 AM
Yes Big Brass Balls. Honestly I forgot how much I enjoyed the political banter. Blowhard would be fun to converse with.

BronxJohnny
02-18-2008, 09:09 AM
Really liked Best in Show and was highly entertained by the Blowhard he me made want to call in and argue with him. What Fred did took alot of balls and though Fan Dick might not like him being in front of a mic the first time is quiet nerve racking he should at least admit that. The Hideout is a great show though i think they need to stop ripping off Next, hoo-hoo and Ct and Jivin is what it is too hip kids that are good in front of a mic. I never get when people say High Society sounds alike though i figure that might be something that can be taken care of though we will never eveeeer do fake radio voices i hate that fucking part of radio "Hey ill sound like a douche on air do a wacky voice- off air ill sound like a man" fuck Tom Lickass out in LA. High Society has many improvements to make but all in all i think we get a good response so hopefully you can witness us making strides and maturing in radio. Would love to thank Ron and Fez for this chance one mo gin pimpingggg zing

DiabloSammich
02-18-2008, 09:20 AM
Really liked Best in Show and was highly entertained by the Blowhard he me made want to call in and argue with him. What Fred did took alot of balls and though Fan Dick might not like him being in front of a mic the first time is quiet nerve racking he should at least admit that. The Hideout is a great show though i think they need to stop ripping off Next, hoo-hoo and Ct and Jivin is what it is too hip kids that are good in front of a mic. I never get when people say High Society sounds alike though i figure that might be something that can be taken care of though we will never eveeeer do fake radio voices i hate that fucking part of radio "Hey ill sound like a douche on air do a wacky voice- off air ill sound like a man" fuck Tom Lickass out in LA. High Society has many improvements to make but all in all i think we get a good response so hopefully you can witness us making strides and maturing in radio. Would love to thank Ron and Fez for this chance one mo gin pimpingggg zing


I think FANDICK and everyone else on this board would have cut Fred alot more slack if he didn't do the big song and dance on the board before the show. We didn't hear a peep out of any of the other shows leading up to this, so we listened to everyone with open minds, unless we had heard you before.

With the display that was put on, he would have had to have been the next Ron Bennington to have everyone in his camp. I really don't think he was that much worse or better than Blowhard, but you haven't heard a bad word said about Blowhard. My two cents.

By the way, i don't think you sound like anybody in radio today, let alone the other podcasts. That didn't make sense. Nice work.

banditorico
02-18-2008, 09:41 AM
oh and as much as i love hearing the seasoned shows, i'd love to hear from more newbs getting their first shot. it can be just as interesting to hear people be awful and realize it isn't as easy as it looks.

Great point, once someone is behind the microphone they quickly feel the pressure and realize they have to bring something to the table.

I think it's easier to have an ensemble show than going solo. While someone is speaking you have time to think about what to say next.

SinA
02-18-2008, 10:50 AM
i think i might call xm customer service and ask for a prorated refund for 6 hours worth of my subscription fees

Hideout was the hideout, with no surprises. they were good, but they're not amatures, so it should be fairly clean. i liked that they prepared a bit to kind of riff in and out of, and then closed with the climax of the bit

CT and Jiven were pretty good. i liked the natural, just hanging out kind of feeling. it made me feel like if i hung out with my friends and recorded it and called it a podcast, it might actually be worth listening to. who doesn't like stories about getting drunk and shitting your pants, and screwing your friends girlfriends? maybe that was the hideout, they sound kind of the same, which isn't totally bad.

Bloward was himslef too, but in his case that's not such a great thing (IMHO). we get it, everything today sucks. if HE did the yardstick of death, that would be worth tuning into. as soon as he started on his first (of three) rants against obama he pretty much lost me, and i'm not even all about obama, i just didn't really care to hear some old guy whose entire universe is confined to the 5 burroughs of NYC talk about politics. plus, that whole bit was done by andy rooney for 40 years now.

fred from brooklyn... no different than tippy tom homeless radio, but not quite as uplifting. when he was being honest about his past and his troubles over the holidays i was into it, but then he went back into his "star caller character" he kept thanking ron and fez for giving him this "life changing opportunity".. i think it's a little premature, unless he was getting offers to sign radio deals while recording the podcast. i'd say his life is going to stay pretty much the same for a while. that was a one-off.

high society, I had high expectations, but i think they phoned it in. the moment in history thing was kinda weak. gotta love bronx johnny though, and him opening up that he's so desensitezed by porn that it takes some truly fucked up nasty shit to get him off anymore was hilarious (and seemed to be true).

so... i guess i listened to 202 for 6 hours this weekend... and around %50 of was pretty good. i think that's pretty successful, although clearly the better shows were the ones that have done it more. maybe bloward and fred's shows could be decent with more practice (but 202 is not the minor leagues, they really ought to hone their skills elsewhere before they get on NOT FREE radio). i hope they do the night of 6 podcasts again and give new shows a shot too.

FANDICK
02-18-2008, 11:13 AM
What Fred did took alot of balls and though Fan Dick might not like him being in front of a mic the first time is quiet nerve racking he should at least admit that.

Yeah, I'll admit that...the problem is that he was such an arrogant, ego-maniacal TOOL when he was here. You would think the guy would be just a lil' more humble. Especially since what he did was crap at it's highest form.

And for the record, I had no problem with Fred until HE attacked ME.

FANDICK
02-18-2008, 11:16 AM
I think FANDICK and everyone else on this board would have cut Fred alot more slack if he didn't do the big song and dance on the board before the show. We didn't hear a peep out of any of the other shows leading up to this, so we listened to everyone with open minds, unless we had heard you before.

With the display that was put on, he would have had to have been the next Ron Bennington to have everyone in his camp. I really don't think he was that much worse or better than Blowhard, but you haven't heard a bad word said about Blowhard. My two cents.


QFT

AKA
02-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Love Night of 100 Podcasts

The Hideout - I really thought they nailed it, but I am biased. I've been a fan of all of the versions. They really need to be on the radio full time. And Jefe has been accused of channeling Ron Bennington for years - funny to hear people immediatly pick up on that. I DO miss their old support staff.

Best In Show - A nice surprise. I was really with it until the dead cat talk, but up until then I appreciating they weren't hacky or shock jocky. The fake commercial got an honest laugh out of me.

Blowhard - Holy shit! Ron has ALWAYS wanted to get him on, and he was onto something. Somtimes rambling insanity can work. I agree with the posts that it could really work (a) weekly and (b) a strong anti-Blowhard to work with. Maybe that's where callers would add a lot.

CT & Jivin / High Society - The only two shows I didn't listen to all of - not sure if it was Podcast burnout or what. What I heard, I didn't hate or anything, I just had fatigue.

Fred - errrrr...great guy, great guest, great caller...errrrr...yeah.

NortonRules
02-18-2008, 11:29 AM
Really liked Best in Show and was highly entertained by the Blowhard he me made want to call in and argue with him. What Fred did took alot of balls and though Fan Dick might not like him being in front of a mic the first time is quiet nerve racking he should at least admit that. The Hideout is a great show though i think they need to stop ripping off Next, hoo-hoo and Ct and Jivin is what it is too hip kids that are good in front of a mic. I never get when people say High Society sounds alike though i figure that might be something that can be taken care of though we will never eveeeer do fake radio voices i hate that fucking part of radio "Hey ill sound like a douche on air do a wacky voice- off air ill sound like a man" fuck Tom Lickass out in LA. High Society has many improvements to make but all in all i think we get a good response so hopefully you can witness us making strides and maturing in radio. Would love to thank Ron and Fez for this chance one mo gin pimpingggg zing

Hey Johnny,
I don't think people think your show sounds like other shows at all. I think people (including me) think that there's 2 or 3 (when Pitzi joins in) people with the same voice and outlook on life. Pepper, Chris and Pitzi (when he's there) all sound exactly alike (at least to me). Same voice, same accent, same content. Maybe I'll learn to differentiate more as I listen more.

ToLEEdo
02-18-2008, 11:42 AM
Hey Johnny,
I don't think people think your show sounds like other shows at all. I think people (including me) think that there's 2 or 3 (when Pitzi joins in) people with the same voice and outlook on life. Pepper, Chris and Pitzi (when he's there) all sound exactly alike (at least to me). Same voice, same accent, same content. Maybe I'll learn to differentiate more as I listen more.

It used to be hard for me to tell Chris and Pepper apart but it gets easier, actually a lot easier not that Pepper has taken on the "the slightly more responsible" role(only in comparison between the two of course). I don't think Pitzy sounds like either one of them though.

MikeB
02-18-2008, 01:17 PM
Why would you all disrespect "multi-millionaire" Fred from Brooklyn. After all he was going to be a musical superstar but decided he did not want to be. And this radio thing is going to change he and his family's lives.

FANDICK
02-18-2008, 01:54 PM
Why would you all disrespect "multi-millionaire" Fred from Brooklyn. After all he was going to be a musical superstar but decided he did not want to be. And this radio thing is going to change he and his family's lives.

:laugh:

gojohnny
02-18-2008, 02:54 PM
I enjoyed all of the podcasts, some a little more than others. Standouts for me were The Hideout and High Society. They fell into rhythm rather quickly and were easy to follow.

CT and Jivin were ok but they didn't really draw me in.

I enjoyed Best in Show a lot more than I thought I would.

The Blowhard/Fred - I think both of these guys would be better with interaction (callers), especially Blowhard. Fred seems content to ramble and I could hear him fighting with callers (at least he comes across that way). Just a little too arrogant for a guy doing radio for the first time.

Overall an enjoyable day of listening.

-GJ

Kilgores Feet
02-18-2008, 03:12 PM
I have to say I loved Best in Show. I thought the Freud voice thing was really shitty but that was only a 2 second moment out of the show. I thought it was interesting and that topics moved nicely.
I only caught the last half of High Society but the Rambo talk resulted in lulz.

It might be because I've heard everyone else that was there so I didn't get too much out of it. Blowhard was pretty much what I expected and Fred was good but I didn't really feel like there was anything I could get into.

I wasn't digging The Hideout. I've heard those guys a lot from the JFK days and it just seemed rehearsed or something. Just wasn't able to pay attention to it.
I've also enjoyed CT and Jivin in the past but didn't think anything good was going on there.
So:
Best in Show
High Society
Blowhard/Fred
Hideout
CT

The Nature Boy
02-18-2008, 03:33 PM
Two questions for y'all:

-What exactly went down with Fred in these parts last week? I'm amazed at the negativity toward his show, but to each his own and thats what makes this kind of debate great. I obviously dug his stuff, but like I said, I didn't follow the show or board much last week and just kind of took it at face value.

-Who is Best in Show? How did they get the spot? Are they regular callers? Are they the "guys from Brooklyn"? How did they get this opportunity? As suprised I am by the Fred hate, which I could definately see, I simply dont get the love for Best in Show, so I'm wondering what their roots were, I had never heard of them(in fact, while listening at first, there is a guy named Fred on their show, I thought this was Fred From Brooklyns Slot and Sam and Than and Blowhard had the next two shifts).

vegeta
02-18-2008, 03:58 PM
At this point, I'm still listening to the other half of the Night of 100 Podcasts, so here are my first 3 ranked:

1. High Society

The young upstarts. Those dirty fucking bums get 100% of my support, plus more. I think they are great offspring from the R&F show, and I hope they find their way in broadcasting

Best bit: Jewish Predator

2. The Hideout

Damn, J Dubs! I don't know if the "hire me or my life will go to shit" angle will work on the corporate suits, but I wish that The Hideout was doing better than they are now. One stinking night a week is not what they deserve. They are a very god show, and I don't think they even need something like the 100 podcasts thing to get up. All they need is for some unworthy show to get dumped, so they can get back on their feet.

Best Bit: J Dubs accepts the Yard Stick of Death challenge

3. CT and Jiven

Nope. Don't like 'em. They sound like they are a little too well prepared, too clean (even with all the cursing in the world) and too bland. Shows like R&F and O&A tell compelling stories. These guys tell "witty" anecdotes.

Best Bit: ...

Kilgores Feet
02-18-2008, 04:48 PM
Two questions for y'all:

-What exactly went down with Fred in these parts last week? I'm amazed at the negativity toward his show, but to each his own and thats what makes this kind of debate great. I obviously dug his stuff, but like I said, I didn't follow the show or board much last week and just kind of took it at face value.

-Who is Best in Show? How did they get the spot? Are they regular callers? Are they the "guys from Brooklyn"? How did they get this opportunity? As suprised I am by the Fred hate, which I could definately see, I simply dont get the love for Best in Show, so I'm wondering what their roots were, I had never heard of them(in fact, while listening at first, there is a guy named Fred on their show, I thought this was Fred From Brooklyns Slot and Sam and Than and Blowhard had the next two shifts).

From what Ron said, it just seemed like Best in Show was a Podcast he had heard before and liked. I had never heard them before and that is probably why I liked them the most. The other guys I had heard before in some form...so it was more of Ron and Fez Spinoff Showcase (but like I said above, I did enjoy most of it.) In that respect, it all seemed a little old. It was just a new voice and new ideas/perspectives that hadn't been on the air before.

I was in the paltalk room last night listening to the Blowhard/Fred stuff and most of the feedback seemed pretty positive. I mean, Blowhard got people talking and arguing which is good - people were paying attention. And most people seemed to like Fred's show.

BrownTown
02-18-2008, 05:06 PM
-Who is Best in Show? How did they get the spot?


We're long-time, huge fans of the Ron & Fez show that sent an aircheck to Ron looking for some advice on putting together a better aircheck. Next thing we know, we're one of the lucky six. Sorry to hear that you didn't dig us. So be it. We know we can't please everyone. Maybe you'll hear us again and think differently, maybe not. None of us are regular callers or characters. The only show lineage that we have is that Fred was the Bass Player of Monty Love (The Feztival of Rock & Ribs band that has been on the show 2 or 3 times).

SatCam
02-18-2008, 05:47 PM
havent heard best in show yet BUT their old incarnation as the brown lodge was probably the next best thing to ron & fez... those guys were on the ball

The Nature Boy
02-18-2008, 06:04 PM
We're long-time, huge fans of the Ron & Fez show that sent an aircheck to Ron looking for some advice on putting together a better aircheck. Next thing we know, we're one of the lucky six. Sorry to hear that you didn't dig us. So be it. We know we can't please everyone. Maybe you'll hear us again and think differently, maybe not. None of us are regular callers or characters. The only show lineage that we have is that Fred was the Bass Player of Monty Love (The Feztival of Rock & Ribs band that has been on the show 2 or 3 times).

Its not a knock on you personally, and I did make a point when I started the ranking that everyone deserves credit for showing up and putting themselves and their stuff out there. My point with any credit or critique I or anyone on these boards give you is, who gives a shit? Dont' let it stop what you do, and hell, I'm in the VAST minority, everyone seemed into what you guys had going on, so more power to you! At the end of the day, who the hell am I?

This the part with my lame callback to my past life, but I was a college deejay, and when I had to weave younger people in, I dealt with and it really sounded like the worst remembrances of those shows I did personally. I didn't want to slag you guys, I tried to offer critical feedback as much as possible, good or bad, and to weed that sort of stuff out takes time and disclipine, but in my opinion, streamlining some of the love of your own voices would be an enormous step.

Good luck and keep at it, its the only way to get better!

CofyCrakCocaine
02-18-2008, 06:14 PM
I vote Eddie the Pointer for second mic.

commish13
02-18-2008, 06:42 PM
Jefe and Dubs are great. I'm a big fan of Next, and I've only heard a bit of their Hideout stuff, but I'm going to check out more. They definitely need to have a real show on a nightly basis somewhere.

I like High Society. I love Bronx Johnny, Hicks is good and Chris is a good part as well. They have good chemistry and are a legitimately fun show. They flow well and come across like friends having a good conversation while at the same time telling a story to the people listening.

Opposite from that was Best in Show, who sounded like a bunch of friends having a conversation and had no idea they were on the radio. It was like four frat boys yelling and talking over each other and laughing and having a good time talking about silly shit. Fine for hanging out with friends, not fun radio. I didn't enjoy it.

CT and Jivin are kind of in the same boat. I just couldn't get into it. I think part of it is that they're just two guys talking about things I don't relate to, and it was in a frat boy type attitude like the Best in Show guys.

Fred was alright. On and off, but it was something different in that it was just one guy basically coming up with some wacky manifesto and speaking as things came to him. Enjoyable enough, but he couldn't carry the whole hour, and Curse was not somebody who could help him through. He talked like he was going to get his dick cut off if he misspoke or spoke at more than a whisper.

I really enjoyed the Blowhard. He was the one I was looking forward to the most, and he didn't disappoint. It was fun commentary about some politics and sports and whatever else. I liked his sidekick fellow, who did a good job. It was kind of like an Imus-ish set up in a way, except there were only two people instead of the main two and the couple other guys that chime in like Imus has. Definitely something I would like to hear on a fairly regular basis.

So overall, Jefe and Dubs are guys who really should be somewhere in big time radio and deserve a gig. Not a shot, just a straight up gig. They're good. Different from anything else on radio, good chemistry, strong show. I think them doing kind of a Next/Hideout hybrid would be a damn good listen.

High Society needs to get a bit more polished, but they have potential and they are good personalities. They are similar in a way to CT & Jivin and Best in Show in that they spoke about the drinking and all that whatnot, but they do it in a way more relatable to me, where they're just dopey friends who have fun, not macho/frat guys that the other two shows sort of came off as.

Best to worst:

1- The Hideout
2- The Blowhard
3- High Society
4- Fred from Brooklyn
5- CT & Jivin
6- Best in Show

BrownTown
02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Its not a knock on you personally


Not taking it personal at all. It's all good. I didn't take it as hating. It's your opinion, and you're entitled to express it. I'd be silly to put myself out there if I didn't have a skin thick enough to take the criticism.

vegeta
02-18-2008, 07:44 PM
My previous ranking (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1629782&postcount=37) for Fez' team

1. High Society
2. The Hideout
3. CT and Jiven

My ranking for Ron's team

1. Fred from Brooklyn

What a fine mess Fred from Brooklyn is. It would be a travesty for me to not pick a man who lives in my city, a man who lives in the borough I was born in, or a man who shares the same love for The Virus for as long as I have. Fred from Brooklyn told his life story with not a tear shed. A compelling life's travel. Then, Fred lightened the mood a bit by introducing a guy I've never heard of, Curse of the Bambino. Odd Name, odd guy, black guy wearing a kilt. Fucking radio gold. Also, Fred brings in some original music, which gives him more points on my board.

Fred came in fucking raw, Terminator style, and he not only didn't piss the bed, he shined above all the rest. I have to give him the top spot.

Best bit: (the TOTALLY ORIGINAL) Porn Board Sexstravaganza

2. Best in Show

Like these guys say, they've been doing their own thing for a while. Who knew? :laugh: This is the show that CT and Jiven wish they could be. Their flow is pretty good, they have a good relationship with each other, and the stories they told were entertaining. A solid show that I wouldn't mind listening to.

Best Bit: OCD counting magically saves lives

3. The Blowhard

Oh damn, the Blowhard. I don't even need to give background on the Blowhard. if you listen to R&F, you know who he is. What he is is a relic from some ancient time, where all children listened to their elders and the only book that was taught was William Shakespeare. the beautiful, white Shakespeare :laugh:

I enjoy his old hatred of everything new, different and diverse, but I'm in my 20s. I'm so out of his demographic that I fell like an intruder, listening in on an old man's crazy ramblings. Love the Pionter dude, though. He might be the only henchman better than Club Soda Kenny.

BEST OVERALL SHOW

High Society.

DaveTheTrucker
02-18-2008, 08:43 PM
I think that there are apples and oranges being compared here and its not really fair to either fruit. There are proffessionals, The Hideout, CT and Jiven, and Best in show, in one group, then High Society, Blowhard, and Fred in the other. You cant really compare the two groups together. Having said that, I over all believe that High Society was the best of the evening. Simply put: They are hungry. While Fred and Blowhard were obviously happy to be there and did their best, High Society, for all their faults, were enthusiastic, hilarious, relaxed, and truly love entertaining the masses.

For the other group, i really did try to enjoy The Hideout as they have been promoted by R and F as a top shelf show. I found them to be bland, and I lost interest. The other two shows i didnt pay attention to either as they seemed to be just more of the same. I am actually disappointed that the Pros didnt put on a better display.

I say give High Society a Sat and Sun slot.