Black Earl – Will the Bit Ever End?

[MadMatt]

This is not a hate thread - I have a legitimate question: Is the drama with Black Earl just a bit or is he really a complete incompetent?

Either way, I am getting kind or tired of the drama.

If it is a bit, then it is going on too long; kind of like a bad wrestling promotion that never pays off.

If Earl really is an incompetent Producer, can the show please move on? Have XM transfer him to a music station somewhere and bring in somebody that can do the job.

I love the show, Ron, Fez, Dave, and most of the rest of the staff. Nothing completes my day more than listening to 3 hours of Ron & Fez. However, I am really getting tired of the “Earl f@#$s up angle.” It has started to impact my enjoyment of the show and I wish it would resolve itself – one way or another.

[cupcakelove]

If it is a bit, then it is going on too long; kind of like a bad wrestling promotion that never pays off.


I thought this was the basis for the entire show.

[ChicagoKyle]

Agreed!

There was always something nice about new producers coming in, almost giving the show a refresh feel.


That being said, having Earl on for so long just got us "Hold Peas". That makes it totally worth it.

[booster11373]

I find myself feeling some of the same sentiments with regards to the show and Earl. I am hoping he will be a man and decide to move on but I know that will never happen.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Agreed!

There was always something nice about new producers coming in, almost giving the show a refresh feel.


That being said, having Earl on for so long just got us "Hold Peas". That makes it totally worth it.

am im close tro finnishing the century club. whrr ehave you be3en?

as far as earl. he will never be fired. he is the token of xm202 and he is as important as robin quivers. no talent, but the armani suits that fits

[Knowledged_one]

Like the great Al Dukes once said

"How many times do i have to say it, this is not a bit"

[Drunky McBetidont]

Like the great Al Dukes once said

"How many times do i have to say it, this is not a bit"

but is it a "work" or a "shoot" ?



btw, al dukes was never great. he was fun under ronnie b's svengali control, but aren't they all?

[drjoek]

Ive got to agree with Matt here. To me at times the beating up on Earl is kind of a lazy gimmick. And Dave instigating bullshit doesn't do it for me. The funny thing is that alot of what Earl gets slammed for are the same fuck ups that Dave does but never ends up in the barrel for. I guess I liked ESD the punching bag character better than the Kick the Black Incompetent game.

As Ive said in other threads though the on air "staff meetings" are taking away from the show to me. The show has become all about how bad those running the show are. That to me really isn't much of a show. I deal with idiot employees all day I don't need to listen to the same shit.
Just my opinion

[JerseyRich]

Like the great Gvac once said.


Black Earl is Mentally Unstable (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48674)

[Knowledged_one]

Like the great Gvac once said.


Black Earl is Mentally Unstable (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48674)

You trumped me in greatness

You are wise oh JerseyRich

[drjoek]

You trumped me in greatness

You are wise oh JerseyRich

Thats why he stepped up when Sir Gvac goes on sabbatical

[JerseyRich]

Thats why he stepped up when Sir Gvac goes on sabbatical

All I ask is that we all...



STEP UP!

[MadMatt]

Like the great Gvac once said.


Black Earl is Mentally Unstable (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48674)

I have posted in that thread many times, but what I am trying to say HERE is different.

The "Mentally Unstable" thread is primarily bitching about Earl and his apparent inability to serve as show producer.

This thread is more of a plea to finally stop the pain - either end the "bit" or get a new producer. As Drjoek mentioned, it has gotten old and is starting to take away from the enjoyment of the show for some/many of us.

I'm not presuming to know what is best, but I certainly know what I like as a fan. I have just gotten to the point of being bored/frustrated with the drama this particular situation is creating.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Ive got to agree with Matt here. To me at times the beating up on Earl is kind of a lazy gimmick. And Dave instigating bullshit doesn't do it for me. The funny thing is that alot of what Earl gets slammed for are the same fuck ups that Dave does but never ends up in the barrel for. I guess I liked ESD the punching bag character better than the Kick the Black Incompetent game.

As Ive said in other threads though the on air "staff meetings" are taking away from the show to me. The show has become all about how bad those running the show are. That to me really isn't much of a show. I deal with idiot employees all day I don't need to listen to the same shit.Just my opinion

why? i have never understood this notion. if my employees were not competent i would offer them a resignation or.... fire them. why are assfuck shitheads working when qualified persons are unemployed? merit is the only measure of entitlement. fuck me, my great grandfather was navaho. my great grandmother came from russia (she came here becasue she understood nuclear fission and helped create our power plants) i deserve a piece of the pie then, right? :help:

[MadMatt]

why? i have never understood this notion. if my employees were not competent i would offer them a resignation or.... fire them. why are assfuck shitheads working when qualified persons are unemployed? merit is the only measure of entitlement. fuck me, my great grandfather was navaho. my great grandmother came from russia (she came here becasue she understood nuclear fission and helped create our power plants) i deserve a piece of the pie then, right? :help:

In this era of PC bulls@#$ and HR dominance, it is easier said than done. It is amazingly difficult to get rid of a regular (non-temp) employee, even if they are incompetent. And if you try to force them out you are open to a lawsuit for creating a hostile workplace (or something similar).

That's why I didn't say "Fire Earl" - it is amazingly unlikely that would happen. However, transferring him to another station/position is certainly within the realm of possibility.

I don't want the guy to be unemployed or destitute; I just want to enjoy the show more. To do that they either need to drop the gag or drop the dead weight (IMO).

[RhinoinMN]

Ive got to agree with Matt here. To me at times the beating up on Earl is kind of a lazy gimmick. And Dave instigating bullshit doesn't do it for me. The funny thing is that alot of what Earl gets slammed for are the same fuck ups that Dave does but never ends up in the barrel for. I guess I liked ESD the punching bag character better than the Kick the Black Incompetent game.

As Ive said in other threads though the on air "staff meetings" are taking away from the show to me. The show has become all about how bad those running the show are. That to me really isn't much of a show. I deal with idiot employees all day I don't need to listen to the same shit.
Just my opinion

If I could only get these at Toys R Us.

Better yet, great idea for myradiostore.

Tons of fun for the kids.

[ChicagoKyle]

Is anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

big ass night of fights...

[drjoek]

why? i have never understood this notion. if my employees were not competent i would offer them a resignation or.... fire them. why are assfuck shitheads working when qualified persons are unemployed? merit is the only measure of entitlement. fuck me, my great grandfather was navaho. my great grandmother came from russia (she came here becasue she understood nuclear fission and helped create our power plants) i deserve a piece of the pie then, right? :help:

In my case I dont mean to confuse idiots with incompetence. I have a staff of young women who do their jobs well but you can't avoid the petty bickering, personal drama no matter how many staff meetings we have. But these iissuese are handled in staff meetings not on the operatory floor around patients. All this interpersonal Bull shit that gets on air. Dave hates Earl, Earls an idiot etc just bores me and takes away MY enjoyment of the show. Others may love it and think Dave is the greatest etc I don't speak for tham or anyone
It just MY assesment

[Marc with a c]

he's going to die at some point

[drjoek]

If I could only get these at Toys R Us.

Better yet, great idea for myradiostore.

Tons of fun for the kids.

I was thinking of a line of Halloween costumes

[MikeB]

Is anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

big ass night of fights...

Never give away the PPV.

[Drunky McBetidont]

In my case I dont mean to confuse idiots with incompetence. I have a staff of young women who do their jobs well but you can't avoid the petty bickering, personal drama no matter how many staff meetings we have. But these iissuese are handled in staff meetings not on the operatory floor around patients. All this interpersonal Bull shit that gets on air. Dave hates Earl, Earls an idiot etc just bores me and takes away MY enjoyment of the show. Others may love it and think Dave is the greatest etc I don't speak for tham or anyone
It just MY assesment

i think the petty bickering constitutes incompetent professional behavior. i am sick of all the fuckheads that have "good" jobs but yet they could not pass a basic competency test offered to 10th graders. i hope obama gets elected and we get an old fashion race war to bring karl marx's dreams to fruition. fuck the rich. time to spread the wealth. heads should roll like they did in france in 1780s. imo

[Drunky McBetidont]

he's going to die at some point

aids will get all our anal openings. god bless bob dobbs

[AKA]

People have come to expect the "pay off" with the "bad producer bit" in the resignation of the producer, and anything less than that seems a let down. The fact that he is still there, with everything that's happend on the show, leads me to think it is 95% real.

[Goatweed]

I can see how Earl & his lack of success at anything may seem to drone on & on at times, but for me I get LOTS of laughs when Dave stirs the pot and pretty much pushes him over the edge. It's the sublte "yes" he whispers when Ronnie calls Earl out on things, or basically knocks him down...the "likes to take naps" jabs, etc...all that stuff is hilarious to me.

[Tallman388]

It really has gotten old, especially if all Dave is going to contribute is instigating. Maybe try out a new angle or switch Earl and Dave, since Dave can, apparently, run the board in his sleep. Then again, Earl locked up on the mic. Oh maybe clean house and get Mooch a green card, how bout them apples?

[cartshlepper]

:laugh:I propose a cage match between Black Earl and Dave. The only thing I can say for Black Earl today is "atta boy spider, don't take any shit from him"!

[Drunky McBetidont]

I can see how Earl & his lack of success at anything may seem to drone on & on at times, but for me I get LOTS of laughs when Dave stirs the pot and pretty much pushes him over the edge. It's the sublte "yes" he whispers when Ronnie calls Earl out on things, or basically knocks him down...the "likes to take naps" jabs, etc...all that stuff is hilarious to me.

my wife had hampsters when she was like 13. her brothers used to stick a pen in the tank and get them in a frenzy till they would eat the weakest. i guess (from what i have heard) she would cry and stuff, but i told her that that is the natural perogative. animals will inherently need to kill something less deserving of success in order to legitimise their succcess. (i guess that works if your species deserve the success.)

[NortonRules]

Earl is a failure, but I REALLY enjoy when everyone gangs up on him.

[midwestjeff]

I refuse to get involved in this lynching.

What?

[dino_electropolis]

i dont get it.

i love earl.

His incompetence, his blathering drivel....love it.

there is an endearing honesty in him, even when he's lying through his teeth.

Ultimately, it comes down to this: Earl is their FRIEND. And friends can, and do, rip on each other tirelessly, but they do not fire each other.

[h8mtv]

Earl has fucked my radio experience for damn year a decade now between his tours with Ron and Fez and O&A.

Fuck that lying, incompetent, dullard. I hope I live to see the day he is fired but I fear he is not truly human and will stalk the halls of WNEW for decades to come. When the nuclear holocaust comes all that is left will be the cockroaches and Earl Fucking Douglas.

[I Like Almonds]

I don't understand how giving Earl a raise is not something that could derail the merger.


The best part of Earl's meltdown today was right after he choked Dave, when he started going "What did I do? What did I just do?" Earl is a terrible actor.

[IamFogHat]

Whenever attention turns to Earl, I know I'm in for some laugh out loud moments. Take today for example, when Ron and Dave called Earl on his ludicrous response to the choosing race question that Earl hadn't been listening to, I about had a heart attack it was so funny. I hope the bit never ends.

[Puggle_kicker]

Did somebody say "lynch"?

[twotoes]

The whole thing is really old. Love the show, but I'm sick of the "Earl sucks" stuff.

[Stedman]

i like having earl on the show.


some of daves most entertaining work is done beating the shit out of earl.

like today for example, i laughed like a retard watching someone do balloon animals when dave was ripping on him.

[TjM]

I think the BP show was atrocious. Dave and Earl wrecked it. Some of Earls eff ups were legit but bit or no bit this whole Dave throws Earl under the bus every 30 seconds shit has to stop. I actually had to turn off the show at 1:20 because I was so enraged at Dave

[danner1515]

I think the BP show was atrocious. Dave and Earl wrecked it. Some of Earls eff ups were legit but bit or no bit this whole Dave throws Earl under the bus every 30 seconds shit has to stop. I actually had to turn off the show at 1:20 because I was so enraged at Dave

Yeah, Dave's Earl-trashing really just makes me annoyed with Dave. He comes off as a child who's happy the teacher is yelling at somebody else. Gee Dave, are you going to say something about Earl jerking off with his socks on again? Bit or whatever, it's fucking annoying to listen to.

[Buke]

How come nobody has suggested a real ring fight between Earl and Dave, i would pay to see it. Dave keeps saying that he would destroy Earl I would buy a ticket to see it. A charity event, someone should suggest it to them.

[Tazznum1]

I like when Ron seriously gets pissed at Earl, but the ESD bashing on him is rubbing me the wrong way. ESD acts like "Lil Ruby" yelling out stuff and hiding behind Beanie's skirt (that he's looking under).


Earl will never be fired and ESD will never stop. The show will not progress on XM with those two producers. Earl needs to be reprimanded about all his lies. How Ronnie didn't rail him the other week when Earl cancelled his appearance on O&A is beyond me.

[WampusCrandle]

i love and hate earl at the same time. but at times, when he cant get anything straight, i wish there would be some kind of resolution and make his uselessness end.

i would really like to see a new producer.

i feel that there should be: "Producer Wars"

get two potential producers, earl, and dave. have them do a series of challenges, physical and intellectual, and whomever is last goes! i think it would be really good. it would show who really wants the job, who can maintain a good job, and get rid of the potential dead weight.

anyone else like?

[WampusCrandle]

Yeah, Dave's Earl-trashing really just makes me annoyed with Dave. He comes off as a child who's happy the teacher is yelling at somebody else. Gee Dave, are you going to say something about Earl jerking off with his socks on again? Bit or whatever, it's fucking annoying to listen to.

haha

[donnie_darko]

you could replace earl with a sound board

"i understand that"

"borack obama will be our next president"

"i'll take responsibility"

"it needs a couple more tweaks"

those four quotes, and oh yeah

"sigh"

[WampusCrandle]

you could replace earl with a sound board

"i understand that"

"borack obama will be our next president"

"i'll take responsibility"

"it needs a couple more tweaks"

those four quotes, and oh yeah

"sigh"

dont forget:

Peaz Hol'

[RhinoinMN]

i love and hate earl at the same time. but at times, when he cant get anything straight, i wish there would be some kind of resolution and make his uselessness end.

i would really like to see a new producer.

i feel that there should be: "Producer Wars"

get two potential producers, earl, and dave. have them do a series of challenges, physical and intellectual, and whomever is last goes! i think it would be really good. it would show who really wants the job, who can maintain a good job, and get rid of the potential dead weight.

anyone else like?

You have a lot of timeless wisdom for such a young lad.

Where did you get all of it?

[WampusCrandle]

You have a lot of timeless wisdom for such a young lad.

Where did you get all of it?

sucking the intelligence out of my sex victims . . . i mean, what, shut up

i'm just smart, damn it!

[AlabamaMan]

you could replace earl with a sound board

"i understand that"

"borack obama will be our next president"

"i'll take responsibility"

"it needs a couple more tweaks"

those four quotes, and oh yeah

"sigh"

you forgot to start every question or answer with "um No"

[AlabamaMan]

sucking the intelligence out of my sex victims . . . i mean, what, shut up

i'm just smart, damn it!

and you are really good at the intranet

[WampusCrandle]

and you are really good at the intranet

hellz yes i am


how was the lunch today?

[AlabamaMan]

hellz yes i am


how was the lunch today?

Not bad buddy:surrender:

[Tazznum1]

Don't forget:

"No. Absolutely not."

"5 mo' minutes peaz."

"I DID do it!"

"I take FULL responsibility."

"NOT at all."

"I sucked Munie's..."




But seriously, how does this guy have a job?

[WampusCrandle]

Not bad buddy:surrender:

hope it was good, brothren

[midwestjeff]

I'd like to add "Let me finish!" to the list.

[h8mtv]

The only reason he is not fired is because he is a friend according to Fez. If he was a friend the useless fuck would just quit. He is obviously a cancer on the show. As far as I can tell the staff swap bit is a no-go because of that fuck. That would be at least a week of radio gold, but no longer...

Oh yeah, Fuck Earl.

[Tazznum1]

All of the stunts he pulled to f. up the show and Ron wanted his ass gone last summer....he gets a raise this year.


Talk about reinforcing his thoughts that R&F won't do $hit to him because he is a screw up.

[h8mtv]

Maybe angry Fez is right and they have a quota to fill. I do not know why else they would enable this behavior. Ron sounds like his head is going to fucking explode and I do not blame him.

[Flounder61]

Earl is an N. That means the shit never ends. An incompetent N is worth 5 good white people any day. Earl will out monotone all of us.

[TheMojoPin]

Earl is an N. That means the shit never ends. An incompetent N is worth 5 good white people any day. Earl will out monotone all of us.

Fuck off with this garbage.

[h8mtv]

The level of laziness and idiocy portrayed by Earl has nothing to do with race. His retention is potentially a different story though. I am forced to think this. There is no way anyone would still be working the same job with his record. The man is a boob.

[ZigZagBigBag]

i love every second of hearing earl get yelled at. his inarticulate responses always make me smile.

[Faust0068]

Ive got to agree with Matt here. To me at times the beating up on Earl is kind of a lazy gimmick. And Dave instigating bullshit doesn't do it for me. The funny thing is that alot of what Earl gets slammed for are the same fuck ups that Dave does but never ends up in the barrel for. I guess I liked ESD the punching bag character better than the Kick the Black Incompetent game.

As Ive said in other threads though the on air "staff meetings" are taking away from the show to me. The show has become all about how bad those running the show are. That to me really isn't much of a show. I deal with idiot employees all day I don't need to listen to the same shit.
Just my opinion

Actually I'm more bored of Dave then I am with Earl.......

[drjoek]

I thought I'd bump this thread after todays show and the threads that it spawned. Alright we get the fact that Earl is unstable, an awful producer, and some would say worse thing about him BUT the last hour to me was a pretty sad spectacle. The only thing I found entertaining was Mooch coming in and saying how great he is and should pursue the thing full time. Other than that its just beating up on Earl and now its mortifying him for something that he took a bit of pride in. I guess thats entertaining.The photos were good or bad who cares one way or the other. To me its just plain sad that the show comes down to beating up on Earl and his incompetence. Its not all that enjoyable. I actually find the whole thing kind of lazy. What happened to being creative on this show? I guess Id like to see someone else take a few lumps ONCE in A while. Either get rid of him or disregard him. Thats just my take.

[Serpico1103]

The only reason he is not fired is because he is a friend according to Fez. If he was a friend the useless fuck would just quit. He is obviously a cancer on the show. As far as I can tell the staff swap bit is a no-go because of that fuck. That would be at least a week of radio gold, but no longer...

Oh yeah, Fuck Earl.

Earl sux.
Please just pay him to stay home. If his incompetence is a bit I am tired of it. I get close to screaming at the radio when I hear him stammer about "trying his best" or that he "understands that".

[Gvac]

I thought I'd bump this thread after todays show and the threads that it spawned. Alright we get the fact that Earl is unstable, an awful producer, and some would say worse thing about him BUT the last hour to me was a pretty sad spectacle. The only thing I found entertaining was Mooch coming in and saying how great he is and should pursue the thing full time. Other than that its just beating up on Earl and now its mortifying him for something that he took a bit of pride in. I guess thats entertaining.The photos were good or bad who cares one way or the other. To me its just plain sad that the show comes down to beating up on Earl and his incompetence. Its not all that enjoyable. I actually find the whole thing kind of lazy. What happened to being creative on this show? I guess Id like to see someone else take a few lumps ONCE in A while. Either get rid of him or disregard him. Thats just my take.

The truth is that Ron and Fez have a looooong history of 'breaking' their producers. They've stated time and again that they'll never fire anyone, but they've had tons of former staffers quit when they had their inadequacies pointed out on air day after day.

Apparently Earl is either too stubborn or too clueless to leave.

[Epschtein]

"Black Earl – Will the Bit Ever End?"

i only read the thread title, are you saying earl isnt really black ?!!

[h8mtv]

Bit over yet?

[capnmorgan]

As you can see you can throw away this posting since I have a low post count. I never listened to the NEW shows although thanks to the big ass room in paltalk i have been listening to the JFK shows. So im catching up albeit slowly.
Black Earl has always come through.... to me... as incompetent. During O&A's NEW time and now at XM. At this point I have to assume that Earl knows that the axe is swinging down and his neck is stretched out. He is looking out for himself and has decided to throw Opie and Anthony, or at least Danny in front to keep the focus off him. As ingenius as it is, he is going to get the whole channel in trouble. And when the Virus channel is finally merged completely into sirius they will cherry pick who and what is in.
Together Opie and Anthony, and Ron and Fez, Are strong able shows who have a diehard fan base. They stand alone on their own channel and do very well. A rift can cause horrendous times ahead. I fear for the buddays future. I fear for my future happiness.

Earl must do the right thing.

I didnt say this was informative just my emotional response.
Obey Fez

[Farmer Dave]

Apparently Earl is either too stubborn or too clueless to leave.

I don't think it's either. He doesn't have enough pride or self respect to leave on his own. He'll take the abuse as long as he is allowed to.

[Randy in Vegas]

It may be a bit. The best kinds are the ones that you never see coming, or the ones that drag on for years and years until you're convinced that they are real. Did anybody see the Midnight Rider thing coming when Dave was fired from the show? I mean, really. But by the time it paid off it was obvious that the whole thing was a set-up and we were rubes being taken for a ride.

Black Earl causing Fez to break his silence on a Friday, so he and Sheepy didn't have to spend all weekend in the studio on a PalTalk cam: coincidence...or set-up? Could the whole thing be theater of the mind? Could Black Earl actually be competent? Could East Side Dave actually be an Andy Kaufman-esque mastermind who is pulling off the comedic mindfuck of the century? Could it be that Fez actually has a wife and kids and that Ron has a secret? It's possible that this is all a work. Or it could all be completely real. Trust no one when you're dealing with carnies...or radio folk.

Fake or real, it doesn't really matter. It achieves the desired effect...it keeps us glued to our radios.

[yojimbo7248]

Earl is an N. That means the shit never ends. An incompetent N is worth 5 good white people any day. Earl will out monotone all of us.

I think you are expressing what a lot of posters are too afraid to say out loud. The level of emotion in these hate Earl threads is over the top. I think a lot of it boils down to anger over quotas and the perception that Earl can't be fired because he is black. Maybe that is why Ron is keeping the bit going. It's too much fun hearing callers say stuff like "I thought in a post-Obama world, blacks will be in charge and therefore we won't need quotas and you can finally fire Earl".

[yojimbo7248]

It may be a bit. The best kinds are the ones that you never see coming, or the ones that drag on for years and years until you're convinced that they are real. Did anybody see the Midnight Rider thing coming when Dave was fired from the show? I mean, really. But by the time it paid off it was obvious that the whole thing was a set-up and we were rubes being taken for a ride.

Black Earl causing Fez to break his silence on a Friday, so he and Sheepy didn't have to spend all weekend in the studio on a PalTalk cam: coincidence...or set-up? Could the whole thing be theater of the mind? Could Black Earl actually be competent? Could East Side Dave actually be an Andy Kaufman-esque mastermind who is pulling off the comedic mindfuck of the century? Could it be that Fez actually has a wife and kids and that Ron has a secret? It's possible that this is all a work. Or it could all be completely real. Trust no one when you're dealing with carnies...or radio folk.

Fake or real, it doesn't really matter. It achieves the desired effect...it keeps us glued to our radios.

I completely agree. Look at the number of Earl-related threads, posts, calls. It is like the Iranian pro wrestler guy working the crowd into frenzy by saying that the USA sucks. If I were Ron, I would have Earl suggest every black family gets thousands of dollars from the Obama administration and a forced apology from white America for slavery. Their ratings would skyrocket.

[JAH1013]

Earl should at the very least have to wear a helmet at work. That and do some actual work.