Ron and Fez and Daniel Johnston [Archive]

TheGameHHH

02-23-2008, 06:36 AM

just out of curiousity, who is this guy? ive never heard of him, is he somebody thats like super famous and i missed the boat on him? Listening to his music i almost threw up about 40 times. it was so awful and i couldnt understand for the life of me why Ron was praising him so much. it was literally simple beats on a piano followed by a story in verse that didn't make sense. Plus he was never in key and his little speech impediment made him sound silly. is this guy famous for his music, and if so, why?

jauble

02-23-2008, 06:40 AM

He is cult famous because of his life story. Quite an interesting guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Johnston

TheGameHHH

02-23-2008, 06:42 AM

now that ive learned he's autistic, the praise makes much more sense. he's very high functioning and what he's been able to do is quite impressive. good for him!

ZigZagBigBag

02-23-2008, 07:01 AM

he reeeeeeaaaaaaaaally enjoys mountain dew.

http://www.wackypackages2005.com/ans4/mountaindew4.jpg

Marc with a c

02-23-2008, 07:07 AM

"thanks for the soda pop"

NortonRules

02-23-2008, 07:08 AM

I thought it was ESD playing the keys and singing again. Who's Daniel?

sefskillz

02-23-2008, 08:03 AM

having daniel on was fuckin awesome. im a huge fan of his and to hear the buddies interacting with him was fantastic. hope it makes the archive soon

sailor

02-23-2008, 08:21 AM

i just don't get it.

silas

02-23-2008, 09:27 AM

having daniel on was fuckin awesome. im a huge fan of his and to hear the buddies interacting with him was fantastic. hope it makes the archive soon

Agreed.....a Ron&Fez hall-of-fame instant classic.

...quite possibly the R&F segment that has the greatest chance of being listened to 100years from now?

(yeah, yeah, i know; "i wish i was in the future so i wasn't alive to hear that...." etc)

Badinia

02-23-2008, 09:38 AM

AnnoyedGrunt

02-23-2008, 10:36 AM

Didn't Bobo once tell a story about getting choked out by Daniel Johnston or am I thinking of someone else?

led37zep

02-23-2008, 10:47 AM

Here is his myspace page.

http://www.myspace.com/dannyjohnston

bobrobot

02-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Didn't Bobo once tell a story about getting choked out by Daniel Johnston or am I thinking of someone else?

Yup, it was in a car outside of a Sheetz gas station/convenience store in Westminster, MD. He said he saw the devil enter my soul thru my eyes & had to choke him out B4 Satan took possession of me permanently. Unfortunately, he had a predilection for choking & biting people bcuz of his BPD & accompanying religious delusions. Later that same day, he recorded the version of "Don't Play cards With Satan" that appears in The Devil & Daniel Johnston."

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JustJon

02-23-2008, 02:52 PM

I was only tangentially aware of Daniel Johnson but there really was something beautiful and tragic about the interview.

silas

02-23-2008, 03:08 PM

Daniel is on the short list of famous musical Texas weirdos, including Roky Erikson and the Legendary Stardust Cowboy...he's very sad and interesting. I know, I know, he's no Justin Timberlake.

Trivia fact: a drawing of his, a space-vixen with a badge reading no. 13, inspired the Pixies song, Number 13 Baby.

I didn't know about the Pixies connection; very cool.

RE: Sad+interesting Texan weirdos; high praise imo -i will be checking out Rory Erikson.

Also, another reason i liked the R+F interview; i never specifically understood why Cobain was a fan (beyond fringe weirdoism)--but with the kiddie keyboards and lousy vocal aesthetics, it highlighted the absolutely airtight song strucure/melody.

PS- Based on suddenly hearing the segment, i can't remember, but if it was Dave who came up with the insight of having those keyboards available; kudos!

Badinia

02-23-2008, 05:06 PM

Ooh! How could I forget Jandek? No-one is more Texan or weird than Jandek.

led37zep

02-23-2008, 05:10 PM

I was only tangentially aware of Daniel Johnson but there really was something beautiful and tragic about the interview.

I felt the exact same way. His music is so simple but yet so emotional. Really quite amazing.

Franklyn

02-23-2008, 05:21 PM

I thank Ron and Fez for introducing me to such hauntingly beautiful music. I can't wait to see the documentary. To think that I worry about anything in the artistic process, when someone with out all our natural gifts, can make such moving music makes me ashamed. I love this guy's work and I find myself wanting to be better because I know about him. Thank you guys! Great show.

bobrobot

02-23-2008, 06:02 PM

i will be checking out Rory Erikson.

Roky Erickson was a founding member of The 13th Floor Elevators & is credited w/ INVENTING psychedelic music, but now he pretty much only sings aboput horror movies, LSD pretty much destroyed his brain!!!

http://www.angryhippy.net/images/13th_Floor_Elevators_Psychedelic_Sounds.jpg
This is the cover of their 1st album, The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators.

Franklyn

02-23-2008, 06:19 PM

Roky Erickson was a founding member of The 13th Floor Elevators & is credited w/ INVENTING psychedelic music, but now he pretty much only sings aboput horror movies, LSD pretty much destroyed his brain!!!

http://www.angryhippy.net/images/13th_Floor_Elevators_Psychedelic_Sounds.jpg
This is the cover of their 1st album, The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators.

BOBO where you been? I miss your songs

mikeyboy

02-23-2008, 06:23 PM

BOBO where you been? I miss your songs

Vegas, Baby, Vegas!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j115/Woodshed1/Swingers.jpg

Franklyn

02-23-2008, 06:25 PM

Nice, being a big bear with big sharp claws I hope. You're money bobo. you too mikey, :)

celery

02-23-2008, 06:29 PM

I was only tangentially aware of Daniel Johnson but there really was something beautiful and tragic about the interview.

Same deal with me, though I'd heard his cover of "Unpack Your Adjectives" on the Schoolhouse Rock! Rocks CD. I just ordered "The Devil and Daniel Johnston" from Amazon, and I can't wait to see it.

Nothing Sound

02-23-2008, 06:31 PM

It's times like these I'm very happy that I record the show and listen to it the next day.

I skipped right passed that nonsense.
That guy fucking sucked.

bobrobot

02-23-2008, 06:38 PM

These all pertain to Badinia's list of Texas "outsider" musicians...

Jandek Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/jandek)

Roky Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/rokyerickson)

13th Floor Elevators Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/13thfloorelevators)

Ledge Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/legendarystardustcowboy)

Another Ledge Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=883186)

Daniel Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/danieldalejohnston)

another Daniel Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/devilanddanieljohnston)

another Daniel Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/danielsgrievances)

FYI, The "Stardust" surname of David Bowie's "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars" is an HOMAGE to The Legendary Strardust Cowboy!!!

led37zep

02-23-2008, 07:06 PM

Hey Bobo, what was the name of the first song Daniel played?

bobrobot

02-23-2008, 07:12 PM

Hey Bobo, what was the name of the first song Daniel played?

unfortunately I didn't hear the songs

led37zep

02-23-2008, 07:17 PM

unfortunately I didn't hear the songs

Its ok...we can still be friends.

All I know is the course was along the lines of "I've finally found, the American dream"

bobrobot

02-23-2008, 07:29 PM

Its ok...we can still be friends.

All I know is the course was along the lines of "I've finally found, the American dream"

It's called American Dream

Listen here, #3 (click) (http://radiok.cce.umn.edu/multimedia/audio/danieljohnston/)

led37zep

02-23-2008, 08:47 PM

There in lies the magic of Bobo! I plugged American Dream into google and couldn't find it.

Viva the Bobo!

celery

02-23-2008, 09:26 PM

Daniel Johnston on The Henry Rollins Show:

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ADF

02-23-2008, 10:32 PM

I was introduced to Daniel Johnston's music by some cover he did of a School House Rocks! song. The thing about him is that his music is for the sort of people who can appreciate real, heartfelt music and don't necessarily need skilled musicianship to enjoy a song. Plus, his lyrics are top notch and if you get the backstory they can be haunting and/or exhilarating.

Badinia

02-23-2008, 11:32 PM

[B]FYI, The "Stardust" surname of David Bowie's "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars" is an HOMAGE to The Legendary Strardust Cowboy!!!

P.S. Bowie recorded The Ledge's "I took a trip on a Gemini Spaceship" on his HEATHEN record as a kind of payback, since there was never any kind of any kind of financial exchange about for his use of the Stardust name.

P.P.S. I'm glad Bobo's back. I was feeling so lonely and nerdy!

celery

02-24-2008, 01:02 AM

Here's the "Schoolhouse Rock" cover song:

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TjM

02-24-2008, 04:54 AM

Did not care for it. I aprieciated the guys life story but I could not listen to the music

led37zep

02-24-2008, 06:49 AM

sailor

02-24-2008, 09:26 AM

Did not care for it. I aprieciated the guys life story but I could not listen to the music

yeah, great story and all, but not the music. if i came out with those songs i'd be laughed at.

led37zep

02-24-2008, 09:44 AM

yeah, great story and all, but not the music. if i came out with those songs i'd be laughed at.

Any "normal" person wouldn't be able to pull of what he can...thats the whole point. Due to his autistic and bi-polar disorders there is an unlikely beauty to his lyrics. If your average douchie emo band came out with the same songs we'd all trash at him, but when Daniel sings them they come across with a child-like honesty that I just don't hear very often. Who really knows...its all a matter of taste anyway.

I can't wait till Unhallowed comes out with a cover of some of his music.:tongue:

sailor

02-24-2008, 09:46 AM

I can't wait till Unhallowed comes out with a cover of some of his music.:tongue:

that would rule!

IamPixie

02-24-2008, 09:51 AM

I just checked out his myspace page. I'm diggin his artwork:

http://a521.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_9c7cf946e948051c23bc451524108908.jpg

http://a31.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_c1da508fdd9543ebca8e758073a60d4e.jpg

http://a514.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_cdf105339edffb40af96110045e51e09.gif

http://a142.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_786c01f0dadda6f9449bf957b014ec05.jpg

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 09:56 AM

yeah, great story and all, but not the music. if i came out with those songs i'd be laughed at.

It's all about commitment, the definition of an outsider artist is someone who is compulsively creative under any circumstances, nothing gets in his way, not technique, not response, not payment or any other form of compensation. There is no hindrance to his creativity either, some person's laughter is no more damning than the wind whistling thru the trees, it's just another sound. Outsider artists are purely creative people, simply & totally dedicated to the act of being creative. The average person has no frame of reference for these artists becuz they have accepted the mainstream pop culture as their world & only want to be passively entertained, not enlightened or expanded, that's too much work. It's like having a world view that's the equivalent of walking into a Baskin Robbins ice cream parlor & always ordering vanilla bcuz the other 30 flavors are "different," or too weird...

There's nothing intrinsically WRONG w/ pop culture, but there's a whole lot more to this world if ya bother to take a look (& a listen) & can learn to be openminded!!!

http://www.efairborn.com/blog/uploaded_images/BaskinRobbins-712904.JPG

sailor

02-24-2008, 10:16 AM

so, because i don't care for his music i'm lazy and don't want to be enlightened? that's a giant leap. maybe i went into it open-minded, but just didn't care for it.

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 10:31 AM

so, because i don't care for his music i'm lazy and don't want to be enlightened? that's a giant leap. maybe i went into it open-minded, but just didn't care for it.

I wasn't intending to single you out, but yer comment about being laffed at seemed to me to be a fearful reaction & I actually felt bad that you felt that way. When I say "you" in my response, it was in general to all the "he sux" reactions, not you specifically. I guess I should have phrased that differently. It's more like the cultureless/thoughtless void that this country has disintegrated into... now's here's yer opportunity OVERREACT to that too!!! HA HA HA!!!

http://www.unt.edu/benchmarks/archives/2002/july02/scream.jpg

Badinia

02-24-2008, 10:37 AM

I'm always perplexed by the impulse to jump into a thread where people are discussing something to let us know that they don't like it. Everyone wants to be heard. If we're enjoying something, why do we care what they think? Life is short, take enjoyment where you can find it. Like what you like. It's like people who register onto Ronfez.net to let us know that they don't like Ron and Fez.

This is the disease of the internet.

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 11:09 AM

deepinthewoods

02-24-2008, 02:37 PM

It always kills me how disarmingly raw and palpable Daniel J's music can be. Its flaws shine through like diamonds because he's the real deal. Fantastic segment, lads!

P.S.

It's times like these I'm very happy that I record the show and listen to it the next day.

I skipped right passed that nonsense.
That guy fucking sucked.

Thanks for the heads-up Nothing Sound (appropriate name). I now know to skip right past your nonsense.

deepinthewoods

02-24-2008, 02:54 PM

so, because i don't care for his music i'm lazy and don't want to be enlightened? that's a giant leap. maybe i went into it open-minded, but just didn't care for it.

Liking DJ's music is not a prerequisite to cool. But if you ever DID acquire the taste you'd become a Future Sailor (apologies to Noel and Julian).

Nothing Sound

02-24-2008, 03:10 PM

Thanks for the heads-up Nothing Sound (appropriate name).

Thanks
It is appropriate, for what it actually stands for.
Something that's way above your intelligent level.
Which apparently is the music of a retard.

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 04:39 PM

Thanks
It is appropriate, for what it actually stands for.
Something that's way above your intelligent level.
Which apparently is the music of a retard.

or this is the posting of a retard & Daniel's is the music of a genius!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u107/wackomarty/retard.jpg

:tongue:

Nothing Sound

02-24-2008, 05:52 PM

or this is the posting of a retard & Daniel's is the music of a genius!

89 minutes and that's what you came up with?

Wow

midwestjeff

02-24-2008, 05:56 PM

It just finished airing again.
Any new thoughts on what you heard?
I am perplexed by the interview.
Please excuse my hayseedity.

---I'm not really sure what I think, but I have a feeling that in a couple of years, I will be able to distinuish a pre-hearing Daniel Johnston and post hearing DJ line in my own writing. Maybe.

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 06:09 PM

89 minutes and that's what you came up with?

Wow

Absolutely!!! I actually spent 89 minutes sitting here & thinking of a reply to a greased gerbil!!!

http://www.temple.edu/photo/photographers/gorman/gorgere.jpg

:lol:

 
 
 

Here's another cool outsider artist's myspace page, Wesley Willis (click) (http://profile.myspace.com/rockonchicago)

Nothing Sound

02-24-2008, 06:36 PM

Absolutely!!! I actually spent 89 minutes sitting here & thinking of a reply to a greased gerbil!!!

:lol:

Oh boy. You're one of those people that really make a point by using
not one, but three exclamation points. You use cute little emoticons as well.

I guess I should really watch myself around you.

bobrobot

02-24-2008, 08:31 PM

Oh boy. You're one of those people that really make a point by using
not one, but three exclamation points. You use cute little emoticons as well.

I guess I should really watch myself around you.

http://lpcoverlover.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/zentner-swingin-eye.gif

deepinthewoods

02-24-2008, 10:09 PM

Thanks
It is appropriate, for what it actually stands for.
Something that's way above your intelligent level.
Which apparently is the music of a retard.

You are mistaken, sir. I don't listen to your music at all.

But you may be right about Nothing Sound being a concept above my intellect, or as you put it: above my "intellegent level." Now I think I get it. Nothing Sound is a polite way of saying trisomy 21, isn't it?

PapaBear

02-24-2008, 10:13 PM

intelligent level.

:lol:!!!:lol:!!!:lol:!!!

bobrobot

02-25-2008, 08:36 AM

You are mistaken, sir. I don't listen to your music at all.

But you may be right about Nothing Sound being a concept above my intellect, or as you put it: above my "intellegent level." Now I think I get it. Nothing Sound is a polite way of saying trisomy 21, isn't it?

U R like James Bond... only kinkier!!!

http://management.silicon.com/i/s4/illo/photos/2006/November/james_bond/thunderball.jpg

deepinthewoods

02-25-2008, 09:00 AM

http://www.lysergia.com/AcidArchives/PeterGrudzien_LPfront.jpg

Cheers Bobo. I hereby present you with an official Peter Grudzien honourific.

MadMatt

02-25-2008, 09:06 AM

That stupid cock sucker said "I understand that, but..." yet AGAIN.

EDIT: And Again!

bobrobot

02-25-2008, 09:18 AM

Cheers Bobo. I hereby present you with an official Peter Grudzien honourific.

"I wanna thank all the li'l people..."

http://media.damnfunnypictures.com/dfp/bad_album_3.jpg

IMSlacker

02-25-2008, 09:21 AM

That stupid cock sucker said "I understand that, but..." yet AGAIN.

EDIT: And Again!

Daniel Johnston did?

Dougie Brootal

02-25-2008, 11:33 AM

who the fuck comes in here and picks a fight with bobo?!?!

how the fuck can someone not get along with bobo?!?!

madness!

midwestjeff

06-26-2008, 07:28 AM

I have a feeling that in a couple of years, I will be able to distinuish a pre-hearing Daniel Johnston and post hearing DJ line in my own writing. Maybe.

First, I would like to say that FebruaryJeff is a douche. There will be no line, asshole.

Second, I saw Daniel Johnston last night and it was a really great experience.
I had several thoughts and musings on the man, the show, the universe but I hashed them all out as I wandered the streets of Nashville so I won't bother to lay them out here.
I still haven't slept.
What a spectacular day.