People who 'cc' in emails to intimidate

[Thomas Merton]

You all know this person: the jackass who will reply to an email with every supervisor they can think of in the cc line.

Today I had the task of giving the Virginia SOL(perfectly named test because you are sol if you dont pass the test). 45 minutes into the test rolls a kid with a pass from his counselor. I emailed the counselor to see what was so important as to make the kid late for a federally mandated test and he blasts me in a reply email saying he was doing his job to "de-escalate a child who was in tears" and cc'd my principal, department chair, everyone. Turns out the young lad was upset over a D interim

How do you deal with a person like this?

[badmonkey]

Serving justice to an asshole can be almost as heroic as returning a cellphone. Are you registered? I say let the professionals handle it.

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm actually just the opposite. Because I've been constantly chided about "reading" condescending in what I write here (even when I'm not), I have to change my style DRASTICALLY when I'm at work so people won't take me the wrong way. It's some of the fluffiest tripe you've ever read.

[HBox]

A Tenbats work memo:

"Gee whiz fellas! I sure will try to get those gosh darn TPS reports out to you in a jif! I sure am sorry that they a teensy bit late but gosh golly I sure am gonna try harder in the future! It's just that I was bogged down with a client and they deserve our utmost respect and attention."

[Tenbatsuzen]

A Tenbats work memo:

"Gee whiz fellas! I sure will try to get those gosh darn TPS reports out to you in a jif! I sure am sorry that they a teensy bit late but gosh golly I sure am gonna try harder in the future! It's just that I was bogged down with a client and they deserve our utmost respect and attention."

Pretty close.

[SyndicateParish]

I hate those fuggers.. and thats not even the BCC'ed people. They also save a copy for records 'just in case', so never send anything you don't have to, especially jokes, or porn etc.

Always be very minimal in a reply. Never give out rope for more discussion. Never go with anything that can be interperited or manipulated.

A perfect reply would be:
"Rule 2 in the bylaws says, one should not interrupt federal testing.".

The idiot on the other end is probably not smart enough to shut up. The goal now is to bait them into looking like a crazy person with another tyrate. Hopefully they will reply with 10 paragraphs of feelings and speculation. At that point they will lose credibility.

[jonyrotn]

Serving justice to an asshole can be almost as heroic as returning a cellphone. Are you registered? I say let the professionals handle it.


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[sr71blackbird]

It is rampant where I work, and I assume everything is bcc'd as well to some director, so I rarely reply with anything other than what they ask me. Once I saw some manager must have hit "reply all" by accident and we did not even know he was in on the email and it caused an 'issue'.

[Ritalin]

I'm actually just the opposite. Because I've been constantly chided about "reading" condescending in what I write here (even when I'm not), I have to change my style DRASTICALLY when I'm at work so people won't take me the wrong way. It's some of the fluffiest tripe you've ever read.

There is no form of communication more misunderstood than email. I've gotten in more mixups because of the same thing you're writing about.

I constantly have to remind myself: there can be no humor or irony in email.

(that's because most people are stupid, btw)

[Doogie]

Fuck all these answers...tell that mother fucker next time they talk to you like that you will punch the kid in the head and cut off the counsellors fingers so they type so derisively anymore. Furthermore you will cook all their fingers and share them with your dog for good measure...that'll learn em.

[topless_mike]

i never let anybody being cc'd intimidate me.
if you have a valid point, explain and defend it.

[DolaMight]

The supervisors who receive the cc will read it, quickly summarize the situation and get angry at the person who just wasted their time. The majority of a managers time is spent reading cc:'s.

It's so obvious when an adult is tattling.

With bcc's it's even worse because the supervisor sees someone "telling" on you behind your back.

Those are same people who feel the need to make long redundant points in meetings just so their voice is heard.

Nothin to worry about but there's no harm in threatening his life next time you see him in the hallway.

[ravn816]

I have to cc in my job, unfortunately. My manager requests that I do, and other managers request that they're cc'd on certain e-mails to their staff. It gets really crazy at certain points as to what they do and don't want to be cc'd on, so I say fuck it, you're getting everything. The reason you cc in my company is because our unofficial motto when it comes to e-mail is cover your ass. If you don't, it will be used against you later. I also have archived almost every e-mail going 2 years back. This has saved my ass when I was accused of doing something without the manager's approval, when really they requested it. God, people are really fucking stupid. :wallbash:

[Furtherman]

I have to cc my boss on everything, but I don't. All the major requests and projects, yes, but if someone needs a quick answer, I don't bother with the cc.
























cc: mikeyboy; justjon; boxy brown

[badorties]

i only do it to bring more clout or attention to an outstanding issue ... it's usually more time efficient and effective to bring senior management into things than waste my time

[A.J.]

I emailed the counselor to see what was so important as to make the kid late for a federally mandated test and he blasts me in a reply email saying he was doing his job to "de-escalate a child who was in tears" and cc'd my principal, department chair, everyone. Turns out the young lad was upset over a D interim

How do you deal with a person like this?

I was usually in tears AFTER the federally mandated tests.

The CC is a way to cover your ass. Unfortunately, people like this don't realize it also exposes incompetence.

[angrymissy]

I'm actually just the opposite. Because I've been constantly chided about "reading" condescending in what I write here (even when I'm not), I have to change my style DRASTICALLY when I'm at work so people won't take me the wrong way. It's some of the fluffiest tripe you've ever read.

I do this too. It is gross. The other day I actually typed "oh, that's what I get for trying to do 10 things at once, you know how it is!!! You're the best!!!". :unsure::unsure:

[CountryBob]

Why can everything sent by email from work be saved and stored to use against you but phone calls cant be recorded without your knowledge? I love sending/recieving porn and doing this at work would make the day go by so better.

[Dude!]

what kind of little fagget boy cries about a grade
i hope the kid gets a zero on the sol whatever that is

[Furtherman]

I blind CC

[SyndicateParish]

what kind of little fagget boy cries about a grade
i hope the kid gets a zero on the sol whatever that is

Dude, I cant say how much I agree..

Kids these days are so fucking soft. I used to take my F's like a man.. You did not go cry. You hid your report card, or you just went home, got your grounding and sucked it up.

Nowadays the kids compain to department chair's that the teacher is unfair to their 'needs'.. Even college students act shocked when they get F's when they did not attend classes or study. Kids are such pussies now, they think everyone deserves a sweet 16 birthday party, and straight A's...

Even the system is designed against 'hard' teachers. If you make students study, they take easier teachers. Teachers with low enrollment number, get frowned upon.. Thus hard teachers, do so at their own professional peril.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Dude, I cant say how much I agree..

Kids these days are so fucking soft. I used to take my F's like a man.. You did not go cry. You hid your report card, or you just went home, got your grounding and sucked it up.

Nowadays the kids compain to department chair's that the teacher is unfair to their 'needs'.. Even college students act shocked when they get F's when they did not attend classes or study. Kids are such pussies now, they think everyone deserves a sweet 16 birthday party, and straight A's...

Even the system is designed against 'hard' teachers. If you make students study, they take easier teachers. Teachers with low enrollment number, get frowned upon.. Thus hard teachers, do so at their own professional peril.

I blind CC

what kind of little fagget boy cries about a grade
i hope the kid gets a zero on the sol whatever that is

Why can everything sent by email from work be saved and stored to use against you but phone calls cant be recorded without your knowledge? I love sending/recieving porn and doing this at work would make the day go by so better.

I do this too. It is gross. The other day I actually typed "oh, that's what I get for trying to do 10 things at once, you know how it is!!! You're the best!!!". :unsure::unsure:

I was usually in tears AFTER the federally mandated tests.

The CC is a way to cover your ass. Unfortunately, people like this don't realize it also exposes incompetence.

i only do it to bring more clout or attention to an outstanding issue ... it's usually more time efficient and effective to bring senior management into things than waste my time

I have to cc my boss on everything, but I don't. All the major requests and projects, yes, but if someone needs a quick answer, I don't bother with the cc.
























cc: mikeyboy; justjon; boxy brown

I have to cc in my job, unfortunately. My manager requests that I do, and other managers request that they're cc'd on certain e-mails to their staff. It gets really crazy at certain points as to what they do and don't want to be cc'd on, so I say fuck it, you're getting everything. The reason you cc in my company is because our unofficial motto when it comes to e-mail is cover your ass. If you don't, it will be used against you later. I also have archived almost every e-mail going 2 years back. This has saved my ass when I was accused of doing something without the manager's approval, when really they requested it. God, people are really fucking stupid. :wallbash:



I multi quote to intimidate you bitches

[topless_mike]

a cc'd email response back to you is a great place to drop a "your moms box" or "cunt"

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's so funny this thread was here.

I have an issue with an employee. Part of my job is awarding projects to vendors. I have a lot of good relationships with my vendors, and sometimes they win a project, sometimes they don't.
Employee took it upon themselves to CC a vendor FOUR TIMES about this project and how the necessary materials being sent out.

The only problem? Said Vendor WAS NOT AWARDED THE PROJECT.

I was livid.

You have no idea how tersely worded this email was and how badly my hands were shaking when I wrote it. I actually showed it to a manager before I sent it because I wanted to make sure that certain words that I usually write here weren't in the email.

[jonyrotn]

Fuck all these answers...tell that mother fucker next time they talk to you like that you will punch the kid in the head and cut off the counsellors fingers so they type so derisively anymore. Furthermore you will cook all their fingers and share them with your dog for good measure...that'll learn em.
This plan will never work, he has a cat but no dogs..

[Thomas Merton]

what kind of little fagget boy cries about a grade
i hope the kid gets a zero on the sol whatever that is


Ding, Ding! Dude, you are the winner. I knew the kid, a 17 year old junior btw, was boo-hooing to the counselor knowing full well he would get additional time for the test. I'm on to the kid, but male counselors are a different breed...every child is super special and not responsible for anything. Every child is a victim in some way. Yes, from where I sit the wimpification of America is proceeding unabated

The SOL is the Standards of Learning, the test No Child Left Behind brought about. Every state has their own test and name. In Va, the humorless dweebs in Richmond named the test SOL. The same people who named regional offices "Clusters" and of course that is where most things go wrong, hence a Cluster F*** :thumbdown:

[ShelleBink]

At my job, certain hyperlinks that I click to send email to representatives automatically cc myself. It makes me feel like I'm so retarded i have to keep everything I send (and its not bcc which at least would hide the retardation from the client). But in dealing with 89 reps I'm assigned to, as well as the additional troubleshooting with their manager and other higher ups, AND the various internal issues we have at my job, everyone's cc'd on everything. Its almost like a message board, saving something someone wrote and bringing it up against them weeks, months, (or years) later. At least message boards prepared me well for this job. :)

[usoilworker]

There are times when the cc comes in handy. Like when you send a question about pay to your hr and dont get a response. So you call and leave a voice mail. Then another day passes and you still got nothing. So a CC to the boss tends to get things motivate. I find it generally apropriate to carry on a One on one conversation with the people i deal with on a daily basis. But when you have issues i find that a cc does tend to move things along.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

In my company, cc is the standard. The environment here is so CYA that if you don't cc just about everyone, then you get exposed to much criticism. I have never been comfortable with this practice but my boss (and his boss - the VP) have made it clear that any project with visibilty requires that they are copied on all correspondance.

It's absolutely assenine.

[~Katja~]

I hate cc and barely use it. If I do it is normally just informational, not to intimidate.

Much funnier though is when idiots try to reply to the sender and hit reply all, and the entire company gets personal messages. Hilarious

[led37zep]

I think BCC is a cowardly move. Anytime my producer is giving someone a "talking to" via e-mail I seem to get blind copied and it really bugs me. Feels shady.

I also NEVER use the CC to intimidate someone. I try and only use it as an FYI to someone who needs to know whatever info I'm sending out.

[reillyluck]

my initial emails to employees are always just one on one. if i dont get results, i forward the original email to them with "please advise the status on below". if i still dont get an answer, i re forward it to them with their superior cc'd. with "third request".

i would hate for anyone to get in trouble, but if i dont get the results i need, then i have no choice to look for another source to help me out.

I think that cc'ing their boss always makes them move faster, but ultimately i hate to do it.