job trouble

[Northside Dan]

i am and have been in sales for the last 8 years and it has been a chore do to my total hatred of the customer and lack of a need to be at my job longer then 8 hours. so i was thinking going back to school for IT. do you guys think that is a good idea?

[A.J.]

More school is always good. So is not dealing with asshole customers.

[LaBoob]

some things to consider when making your decision:

1) your company might pay for it
2) it WILL take you to the next level in your job
3) it will be a little easier on you since you already have experience in business... you'll be learning about the things you do every single day
4) they ask you to take on projects, problems, or issues and correct them using the techniques and information you've learned... you can choose a real problem from your job, and actually implement these new techniques, and solve the problems for real.

Your new degree can move you higher up in your current company, or you can leverage your current job with your new degree into a management position somewhere else. You can then teach people to do the job you didn't necessarily love, but have 8 years of experience doing.

It's always good to further your education... even if you don't LOVE what you're learning about... I know you're probably thinking... is it right to lock yourself further into a job you don't like? And put more and more effort into a job you despise anyway? Don't forget to see the bigger picture... If you're a motivated enough person, you can use your degree as a way out of the job you're currently in.

[Northside Dan]

some things to consider when making your decision:

1) your company might pay for it
2) it WILL take you to the next level in your job
3) it will be a little easier on you since you already have experience in business... you'll be learning about the things you do every single day
4) they ask you to take on projects, problems, or issues and correct them using the techniques and information you've learned... you can choose a real problem from your job, and actually implement these new techniques, and solve the problems for real.

Your new degree can move you higher up in your current company, or you can leverage your current job with your new degree into a management position somewhere else. You can then teach people to do the job you didn't necessarily love, but have 8 years of experience doing.

It's always good to further your education... even if you don't LOVE what you're learning about... I know you're probably thinking... is it right to lock yourself further into a job you don't like? And put more and more effort into a job you despise anyway? Don't forget to see the bigger picture... If you're a motivated enough person, you can use your degree as a way out of the job you're currently in.
thx. i want to have a job were i come in and there is work to do and then i do it period. i am not good at looking for work(aka sales in a nut shell) i am good at it as i sell it and i can make enough i assume to pay my child support and have enough to not live like a hobo

[LaBoob]

thx. i want to have a job were i come in and there is work to do and then i do it period. i am not good at looking for work(aka sales in a nut shell) i am good at it as i sell it and i can make enough i assume to pay my child support and have enough to not live like a hobo

I hear ya loud and clear... sales jobs can create a lot of "freedom" in your schedule, but it's time that needs to be spent working your ass off... the best salespeople are working non-stop and that's just not the kind of person I am. When it's in front of me in a pile... yes... when I have to go create my own work... meh. It only works if I'm passionate about what I'm doing. At first I was pretty passionate... but after a while I realized I was getting home everyday with the nagging feeling I'd accomplished NOTHING, at least nothing I could see or touch, or feel any real satisfaction about. I was on track to get my MBA and take it to the next level, but got laid off before I had the opportunity. Now I'm looking for a job and it's like a toss up between sales and anything else... so I'm struggling about whether I want to get right back into what I was doing, or just move on completely.

[Northside Dan]

I hear ya loud and clear... sales jobs can create a lot of "freedom" in your schedule, but it's time that needs to be spent working your ass off... the best salespeople are working non-stop and that's just not the kind of person I am. When it's in front of me in a pile... yes... when I have to go create my own work... meh. It only works if I'm passionate about what I'm doing. At first I was pretty passionate... but after a while I realized I was getting home everyday with the nagging feeling I'd accomplished NOTHING, at least nothing I could see or touch, or feel any real satisfaction about. I was on track to get my MBA and take it to the next level, but got laid off before I had the opportunity. Now I'm looking for a job and it's like a toss up between sales and anything else... so I'm struggling about whether I want to get right back into what I was doing, or just move on completely.
sales is a dual edged sword u can make alot of coin and have freedom to do what you want but the sad truth is the people who get the coin and the freedom spend 24 hours a day on call. i need a inbox and a outbox with what needs to be done period. but the sad thing is once you have done sales it is like you have a taint on you and you cant get hired for anything else

[LaBoob]

it is like you have a taint on you

Ew. Mod quote?

:tongue:

And I haven't encountered this yet, but I hope it won't get in my way. I'm a pretty versatile person and would hate for people to see that I've done sales for a while and think I can't do anything else.

[Northside Dan]

Ew. Mod quote?

:tongue:

And I haven't encountered this yet, but I hope it won't get in my way. I'm a pretty versatile person and would hate for people to see that I've done sales for a while and think I can't do anything else.
it has happened to me i have tried to get out but My thoery is the need for sales people is alwasy there so rather then take you on as something else they say "we need a sales guy and this person has exp". The only hope is to get a true account mangement postion where u only up sell existing aka the holy grail. 40k-50k base some bonus structure and no searching for business just call your account load and upsell. Btw that position is like a black guy in bay ridge brooklyn.

[Thebazile78]

Going back to school can't hurt. If you've got the cash to pay for it, definitely go for it.

If work pays for it, find out if there are "catches" ... my job will pay towards courses, but there's a minimum passing grade requirement ("B" or better; unsurprising) AND you pretty much sell them your soul (i.e. - you need to work "X" amount of time in order to "pay back" your "loan" ... if you leave the company before then, you end up owing them that $$) ... I'm not willing to sell my soul.

Even without that, sometimes going back and taking a couple of classes can save you costly mistakes, too.

(True story: I took a couple of courses about 5 years ago to try and improve my Calc grade and take a business Stats class because I was thinking about applying to MBA programs to advance my career to a more strategic position within the company. After just barely passing the Stats class and having my Calc grade remain the same, I learned that ... I was just bored and an MBA was not what I should be doing. So ... I saved myself the $$ on the graduate level, the test-prep courses & websites ... and thousands in tuition ... just by taking a hard look at my priorities at the time.)