Hancock

[Furtherman]

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I like the way they're going with this movie. The trailer leans towards the comedic side, but there is a longer trailer here where you can get a more feel of the movie. (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=44414)

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/spotlights/2007/john_hancock.jpg

[underdog]

I don't know why Ron didn't pick this movie as one of his summer popcorn movies. It actually has a chance to be slightly interesting, compared to some of the other movies he picked.

[ChrisTheCop]

What are two things a man needs to masturbate?
http://www.influks.com/upload/previews/913.jpg

[DolaMight]

Sextant soundtrack hopefully.

[booster11373]

The 2nd trailer is much better then the first

[ChimneyFish]

Is this a follow up to John Adams????

[ChrisTheCop]

Is this a follow up to John Adams????

I actually thought it was about John Hancock. My bad.

But to say the trailer leans toward the comedic side, is to say
the trailer leans toward the movie.

I'll probably end up seeing it, but it's not at the top of my list.

[Furtherman]

But to say the trailer leans toward the comedic side, is to say
the trailer leans toward the movie..

The second trailer shows the dramitic side. Granted, there will be more laughs... maybe.

[MadMatt]

What are two things a man needs to masturbate?
http://www.influks.com/upload/previews/913.jpg

A Sombrero and a Midget?



What... it's just me?

[IamFogHat]

Is this movie a parody? Why is he wearing the X-Men movie outfits in the new trailers?

[DarkHippie]

This is the second movie this summer about an alcoholic superhero. Coincidence?

[fezident]

I think the studio demanded a frantic re-edit of this movie.

When I originally saw/heard about this movie, is 100% comedic. Quite frankly... it looked retarded. Somewhere between The Greatest American Hero, My Super Exgirlfriend, and The Incredibles.

Now, it seems like they've changed the entire feel & tone to be much much more serious.

It wouldn't surprise me if this movie is a letdown. Too funny to be a serious SciFi epic. Too dramatic to be an all out SciFi Comedy (like Ghostbusters).

I'm seeing it on opening day though.

[cougarjake13]

i liked wshen he threw the whale back

[fezident]

Anybody seeing it tonight??
I'm going at 7pm.

[drjoek]

They had a profile on him on 60 minutes Sunday night about how wonderful he is and his life is.Ok fine But then they go back to Philly and we're suppose to believe that his father just happens to walk up as they stand in front of his childhood home and they "run into" one of his high school teacher. Pissed me off to see that type of shit from 60 minutes.

[KnoxHarrington]

The original concept sounded interesting, but it does sound like the studio has forced it into more of a standard "summer movie" frame. So I've lost most of my interest.

[Furtherman]

This is getting some pretty bad reviews. I think I'll wait for DVD.

[fezident]

Wow. This movie had such potential. The plot and the plot twist are actually quite solid but, the execution is way off. Waaaay off.

And here's an open letter to film directors everywhere:
STOP SHAKING THE F'ING CAMERA!
No matter how simple, tender, or quiet the scene is.... the camera is ALWAYS bumping. I get it! 24 was a hit show and now you think that's what the public wants.

It isn't.

Let the actors do the heavy lifting, wouldja please?!

[TheMojoPin]

It's not looking good. (http://www.pajiba.com/hancock.htm)

The second, encompassing a plot twist that would make Shyamalan vomit in horror, is just plain awful. Terrible. And I mean…shit-balls retarded. If director Peter Berg and writers Vince Gilligan and Vincent Ngo started with a fun if flippant action-comedy, they end with a fucking farce, veering the story from character study into My Super Ex-Girlfriend and then something out of Piers Anthony. The plot becomes unwieldy, nonsensical, asinine and completely at odds with the tone and logic of the first hour, turning Hancock from pointless, enjoyable ride to sloppy incoherence in an effort to explain Hancock’s origins in the dumbest way possible. The film sputters and flops across the finish line like a dead fish.

I think the review nails what sounds like a critical flaw in what was a good concept...it sounds like it's key for this character to basically hate himelf, yet Will Smith is totally wrong for that having made a career playing characters so obviously in love with themselves.

So who would be good for such a character? Given that he's a drunk and filled with self-loathing, Billy Bob Thornton immediately leapt to mind for me.

[fezident]

I kinda feel like Hancock should've been two movies. There's actually two decent story lines hidden in that mess. One about a reluctant superhero who (almost) does more harm than good. And the other, that I won't go into because it's being hyped as a twist.
Instead, this movie dilutes both plots. The humor takes away from the seriousness. And the heavier plotline takes away from the comedy.

Personally, I thought they hit the humor a little TOO hard. It was like GREATEST AMERICAN HERO for a while there. It didn't seem like he was being complacent... it seemed like he didn't even know how to control his abilities.

And, for me, Hancocks motivations were always in question.
Okay... you're a miserable bastard but, if you're gonna even BOTHER to save someones life, why cause all that pointless collateral damage? Either you care or you don't. And... if you truly hate people... why stay in the city? And why not leave when the public and the Mayor demanded it?
If they fleshed that stuff out.... ya got yerself a solid movie.
Another MAJOR flaw was; why the F were people constantly starting fights with him? They KNOW he can't be injured. Why even bother to talk smack to him? Those scenes felt very forced. They all should've been deleted as they didn't really move the story forward.

The other plot had a TON of potential but, it felt so slapped together, I don't know where to start.

[Gerald]

I agree with the general consensus that the movie totally goes flying off the tracks and turns into a firey wreck once the big twist is revealed. The filmmakers aren't very subtle in telegraphing whom the twist is going to incorporate though because this particular character gives Hancock what Roger Ebert adequately described as an "odd, penetrating stare" whenever they appear together in the same scene. All the stuff that they're playing up in the advertising with Hancock as a misanthropic postmodern superhero functioned well within the parameters of summer escapism entertainment though but that whole vibe gets tossed out once the big lame origin reveal arrives. I also agree that Hollywood needs to declare a moritorium on the annoying headache catalyst shaky cam. Its usage adds nothing to movies and in most cases detracts from the overall enjoyment factor. If you use it in moderation in a few fleeting shots it's tolerable but when employed as the entire visual framework for how to present the narrative action it's maddening.

[jonyrotn]

What are two things a man needs to masturbate?
A Sombrero and a Midget? :ohmy: Hey you freak, back up!
And don't make any sudden movements... You disgust me..Keep your hands where I can see them! :unsure:

[grlNIN]

As i pretty much loathe Will Smith and his very being i was nothing short of irritated everytime i saw this stupid fucking trailer and all the promo pictures of his Brett Michaels lips.

No surprise that it's getting terrible reviews because in general Will Smith is a terrible fucking actor.

[Sue_Bender]

As i pretty much loathe Will Smith and his very being i was nothing short of irritated everytime i saw this stupid fucking trailer and all the promo pictures of his Brett Michaels lips.

No surprise that it's getting terrible reviews because in general Will Smith is a terrible fucking actor.

QFT!








Goddamn anal bleeding.

[EliSnow]

The second, encompassing a plot twist that would make Shyamalan vomit in horror, is just plain awful. Terrible. And I mean…shit-balls retarded. If director Peter Berg and writers Vince Gilligan and Vincent Ngo started with a fun if flippant action-comedy, they end with a fucking farce, veering the story from character study into My Super Ex-Girlfriend and then something out of Piers Anthony. The plot becomes unwieldy, nonsensical, asinine and completely at odds with the tone and logic of the first hour, turning Hancock from pointless, enjoyable ride to sloppy incoherence in an effort to explain Hancock’s origins in the dumbest way possible. The film sputters and flops across the finish line like a dead fish.

A Piers Anthony reference? Wow, I have never seen one of those before.

Was the movie filled with bad puns? Also, what was the twist I've seen people complain about?

[KnoxHarrington]

A Piers Anthony reference? Wow, I have never seen one of those before.

Was the movie filled with bad puns? Also, what was the twist I've seen people complain about?

Here you go:

http://www.moviepooper.com/6/2991hancock.html

Holy shit, this is stupid.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I have not seen the movie but after reading about the twist I don't see what the big deal is.

Would it be better if Hancock was an alien(Superman), a mutant (X-Men), someone who creates there own powers (Batman/Iron Man), a victim of a scientific experiment (Spiderman/Hulk) or just doesn't know why he has these powers? It's a movie about a dude with superpowers so why not have him be one of the last two "gods" or "angles" (I keep reading both, so I don't know which is in the film) It's not a serious film.

From what I have read they don't keep things consistant in regards to how Hancock's powers are affected by being near Charlize Theron, and how her powers are affected by his. But the twist itself sounds fine to me. At least it's different that most superheroes (Except Thor)

I keep hearing that the twist ruins the film, but the more I read about it I think the poor story telling ruins it.

[TheMojoPin]

I just don't see why we need to know all that shit about him. It completely detracts and distracts from what actually makes the film interesting and different. Forcing in a bullshit origin story and such just makes like every other average comic book flick out there.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I can see that. Origin stories work better in the comic book form, but in a movie you gotta keep things moving, you don't have the luxury of having a new chapter each month to build upon.

[Kevin]

I liked the movie.. I thought Will Smith really did a good job.

Fuck the critics...

[TooLowBrow]

this movie was way better than i was lead to believe

[Kevin]

this movie was way better than i was lead to believe

Thats exactly what i thought.

[fezident]

Doc,
I think what's pissing people off is not the fact that there's a twist, it's that the twist isn't executed well, and suddenly you're watching a different movie.
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN successfully becomes a different film and it's executed perfectly. Both halves are fun.
With HANCOCK... both halves are diluted by the other half. It felt so scattered to me. It smacked of rewrites, studio input, and very "focus grouped". (group focused??)

I actually admire Peter Berg for at least TRYING to make a film with substance. It's a shame that he missed the mark here.
I would be very interested in seeing a true Directors Cut of this movie. Maybe it'll deliver.

[El Mudo]

I would go see it if it was about this Hancock


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uyeef52NTmI/RsjrbIRD7HI/AAAAAAAAAXI/5lfKnStqyZg/DSCF5181.JPG

[Sinestro]

what's the twist?

[fezident]

The twist, such as it is:
Hancock is an unlikeable Ahole with no respect for people, their belongings, laws, rules, or public property. He has superpowers but, does not know how or why he acquired them. This makes him feel like an outcast & a loaner, which somewhat explains why he's such a bitter man who is constantly drowning his sorrows in alcohol. One day, he saves a mans life (Jason Bateman) and that man attempts to befriend Hancock and rehabilitate Hancocks public image. Unfortunately... the mans wife (Charlize) has a deep hatred and mistrust for Hancock but, Hancock feels drawn to her. Attracted.
Behind the mans back, Hancock makes a move on Charlize. He attempts to kiss her and she suddenly uses HER amazing superpowers to stop his advances. She has all the abilities that he has!
She then explains that they are both immortal gods... or possibly angels... who are not only the last of their kind but.... were married and in love for thousands of years. When they are apart, they are superbeings, but when they're together... their powers are diminished. So diminished, that Hancock eventually gets a head injury while trying to protect her from an attack, which results in amnesia. She leaves him so he can regain his powers but the amnesia is somehow permanent. This why he doesn't remember her, their marriage, his injury, his identity, and his origin.

[KnoxHarrington]

Doc,
I think what's pissing people off is not the fact that there's a twist, it's that the twist isn't executed well, and suddenly you're watching a different movie.
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN successfully becomes a different film and it's executed perfectly. Both halves are fun.
With HANCOCK... both halves are diluted by the other half. It felt so scattered to me. It smacked of rewrites, studio input, and very "focus grouped". (group focused??)

I actually admire Peter Berg for at least TRYING to make a film with substance. It's a shame that he missed the mark here.
I would be very interested in seeing a true Directors Cut of this movie. Maybe it'll deliver.

Well, this was a movie that was languishing in pre-production for something like 10 years before it was finally made, and the reports I'm seeing are that it had to undergo major changes. And this "twist" does sound like something that some suit came up with.

[Coach_Mac]

I liked the movie.. I thought Will Smith really did a good job.

I agree, actually, I thought this was Smith's best role I have seen him in. I wasn't expecting to laugh at what I thought was going to be a corney movie but I did. I don't dislike him but I don't remember him ever making me laugh.

[britneypablo]

i also enjoyed the movie, i heard people sayin dont see it, go see wall-e which i ended up watching both the same day, but i ended up liking the entertainment quality of hancock better (although i get the whole concept of wall-e and all) i just thought hancock was entertaining, action packed, and funny....something about the part where they tell him to smile and he does that horrible smile...i loved it

[Furtherman]

this movie was way better than i was lead to believe

Yep.

Finally saw this on DVD and I enjoyed the movie. Much better than the unwarranted complaints I had heard.

[Whiskeyportal]

I liked this movie until the chick showed that she had super powers, then it just turned gay.

[cougarjake13]

The twist, such as it is:
Hancock is an unlikeable Ahole with no respect for people, their belongings, laws, rules, or public property. He has superpowers but, does not know how or why he acquired them. This makes him feel like an outcast & a loaner, which somewhat explains why he's such a bitter man who is constantly drowning his sorrows in alcohol. One day, he saves a mans life (Jason Bateman) and that man attempts to befriend Hancock and rehabilitate Hancocks public image. Unfortunately... the mans wife (Charlize) has a deep hatred and mistrust for Hancock but, Hancock feels drawn to her. Attracted.
Behind the mans back, Hancock makes a move on Charlize. He attempts to kiss her and she suddenly uses HER amazing superpowers to stop his advances. She has all the abilities that he has!
She then explains that they are both immortal gods... or possibly angels... who are not only the last of their kind but.... were married and in love for thousands of years. When they are apart, they are superbeings, but when they're together... their powers are diminished. So diminished, that Hancock eventually gets a head injury while trying to protect her from an attack, which results in amnesia. She leaves him so he can regain his powers but the amnesia is somehow permanent. This why he doesn't remember her, their marriage, his injury, his identity, and his origin.


thats fucking horrible ( the twist ending gimmick )

im glad i didnt waste my money on it

[NewYorkDragons80]

I'm crazy about Jason Bateman and Charlize Theron, but this movie just didn't do it for me. Not only was the story bad, but the pacing of the movie was really choppy. Peter Berg did a fantastic job with the Kingdom, IMO, but he really disappointed me on this one.

[Fallon]

I watched it last night and it was so bad.

With that and the new Indiana Jones movie I had a shitty weekend.

:furious:

[Furtherman]

I liked this movie until the chick showed that she had super powers, then it just turned gay.

You watched an hour of a movie about a guy with superpowers. Then in the last half hour there is a gal with superpowers and everyone gets all bent out of shape about the movie.