'Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term'

[nate1000]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1210668683139&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


:flush: discuss.


I understand that you need to consider the source here, but this chills my bones. A nice parting shot of a lame-duck asshat.

[Judge Smails]

"Mission Outlandish"

[Knowledged_one]

How can we invade Iran when the leader of Venezuela swears we are going to invade them

are you really this much of a rube

[A.J.]

If Bush doesn't, Hillary will. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1702089&postcount=351)

[pennington]

Army Radio had quoted a top official in Jerusalem claiming that a senior member in the entourage of President Bush, who concluded a trip to Israel last week, had said in a closed meeting here that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were of the opinion that military action against Iran was called for.

So an official in Israel claimed someone in the Bush entourage said Bush and Cheney were of the opinion that military action was called for. It's a non-story.

[Midkiff]

I wouldn't put it past that stupid hayseed fuck of a president.

[DolaMight]

Attack Iran before Iran attacks you is what my grandfather used to say.

[Knowledged_one]

I wouldn't put it past that stupid hayseed fuck of a president.

dude the guy graduated from Yale and flew military jets, if he is stupid what does that make you?

[nate1000]

are you really this much of a rube

Here's a thought: "Fuck you, dick"

I clearly stated that you need to consider the source, however, do you really think this would be out of character for our President?

[Knowledged_one]

Here's a thought: "Fuck you, dick"

I clearly stated that you need to consider the source, however, do you really think this would be out of character for our President?

awww someone has their panties in a bunch

And yes that would be out of character to invade Iran, it would be more likely for Isreal to do this then the US. Especially when the president cant just invade on a whim

[Furtherman]

Graduating from Yale does not make you smart. Especially when you're privileged and ushered through.

[A.J.]

And yes that would be out of character to invade Iran, it would be more likely for Isreal to do this then the US.

Why would Israel do that when they can guilt us into doing it for them?

[Knowledged_one]

Graduating from Yale does not make you smart. Especially when you're privileged and ushered through.

What about flying Naval Jets? Did they usher him through that

[A.J.]

What about flying Naval Jets? Did they usher him through that

Air National Guard.

[K.C.]

How long before these are being sold in every Farmer's Market in the country:

http://images.cafepress.com/product/141120600v2_240x240_Front.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

Good call AJ, he flew Corvair F-102's which are Air Force Jets

Regardless flying a jet is not something they usher you through

[TheMojoPin]

If someone can fly a plane, that automatically makes them very intelligent in all aspects of life? If anything, it makes him an idiot savant, because he's sucked at everything else.

[Drunky McBetidont]

I am smart! ask my dad

http://www.infowars.com/images2/us/271005angry_bush.jpg

[Furtherman]

What about flying Naval Jets? Did they usher him through that

No, he was trained and flew planes. He was ushered in his "champagne unit" of his Texas National Guard unit. He also lost his flight status by skipping his physical, which most would say wasn't too smart.

I think it's been well documented and noted by many, many former employees and colleagues that he's not very bright and has coasted through jobs and positions his entire life. You'll be hard pressed to find even the most staunchest of Republicans to give him an A for smarts.

Just look at all the quotes and video of him out there talking nonsense.

"I don't know why you're talking about Sweden. They're the neutral one. They don't have an army." —during a Dec. 2002 Oval Office meeting with Rep. Tom Lantos.

So any argument showing him with a Yale diploma or sitting in a cockpit is meaningless.

[starvingkids]

why is he still our president? :flush:

[BoondockSaint]

I heard that Bush was never interested in how to take off or land a plane, only steering them.

[EliSnow]

dude the guy graduated from Yale and flew military jets, if he is stupid what does that make you?

He was a "C" student at Yale, and the grading curve at Yale has been historically set at "B" rather than "C." He also was there at a time, when connections, etc. counted more than your academic background in getting you into Yale.

As for flying military jets, the ability to fly a jet indicates a good proficiency at a number of things, but it does not mean he has the mental competency to handle the complex nature of international diplomacy, etc.

[Knowledged_one]

All i am saying is that people here who call him an idiot have zero clue like Midkiff

What are his qualifications to call someone an idiot?

[starvingkids]

He was a "C" student at Yale, and the grading curve at Yale has been historically set at "B" rather than "C."

If i went to yale most likely i would be a F student, but that doesnt make it right for me to be an evil ruler. Or does it?

[TheMojoPin]

How does one become "qualified" to think someone else isn't terribly intelligent, or is totally unfit for their jop?

[Drunky McBetidont]

All i am saying is that people here who call him an idiot have zero clue like Midkiff

What are his qualifications to call someone an idiot?

you don't know about midkiff's IQ? ask him.

[starvingkids]

How does one become "qualified" to think someone else isn't terribly intelligent, or is totally unfit for their jop? with all due respect mr. moderator i think your b at the end of the word job got flipped upside down. i bet it was a terrorist that did it. But i doubt anyone is qualified to to judge others at alll, but when your running a country called america i think lots of people have the right to think someone is unfit for a such a job as president of the us... Well i gotta go spend my income on gas.

[Furtherman]

Pssst.... starvingkids.... he's wasn't talking to you. Not making much of an argument with smarts.

[Dougie Brootal]

All i am saying is that people here who call him an idiot have zero clue like Midkiff

What are his qualifications to call someone an idiot?

well to my knowledge midkiff has never flushed the most powerful nation in the world down the toilet, am i right? midkiff didnt destroy the us economy, or lie to get us into a war the he had no idea how to get out of did he? in my view, midkiff seems like he's perfectly qualified to make that statement.

[TheMojoPin]

It's an acronym...for...uhhhh..."job of President."

Yeah, that's the ticket...

[grlNIN]

Why hasn't he been assassinated yet?

In all seriousness, that is a question i ask every time i read something about him.

[TheMojoPin]

Secret Service, here we come...

*Quietly backs out of the thread*

[Furtherman]

He's not inherently evil, nor should any harm come his way. He's just a simpleton who was escorted into the deep end by a neo-conservative religious right which thankfully is slowing fading from view and hopefully in the years to come, America will shine again and we can stand firmly on our feet. Of course, the military industrial complex will screw that up, but at least we won't have to be embarrassed anymore.

[A.J.]

Why hasn't he been assassinated yet?

In all seriousness, that is a question i ask every time i read something about him.

What's the point? Jodie Foster would no longer be impressed.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_02/FosterAEDT1112_468x517.jpg

[AnnoyedGrunt]

How long before these are being sold in every Farmer's Market in the country:

http://images.cafepress.com/product/141120600v2_240x240_Front.jpg


Those will never go out of style. It works on any Ayatollah! Ayatollah Nakhbadeh, Ayatollah Zahedi... Even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmara and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating their power!

[starvingkids]

maybe bush doesnt even know when his term is actually up, so possibly he thinks he has another couple of years to start another war. :clap:

[scottinnj]

I wouldn't put it past that stupid hayseed fuck of a president.

Up to six months after the 2006 elections, I wouldn't have been surprised. Now it's too late. It would take troop movement of a type that can't be mistaken by the press, and the window of time it would take to stage them to attack is too small now.

It's not happening.

[scottinnj]

Why hasn't he been assassinated yet?

In all seriousness, that is a question i ask every time i read something about him.

Because all you limp-wristed weanie liberals are scared of guns.


FACE!


wakka wakka

[Bulldogcakes]

What's the point? Jodie Foster would no longer be impressed.


Not without a sex change.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_02/FosterAEDT1112_468x517.jpg

Funny. Not many guys in this pic, huh? Go figure.

[scottinnj]

Secret Service, here we come...

*Quietly backs out of the thread*

That was my first thought too.

[K.C.]

Those will never go out of style. It works on any Ayatollah! Ayatollah Nakhbadeh, Ayatollah Zahedi... Even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmara and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating their power!

:lol:

Great episode.

[scottinnj]

it would be more likely for Isreal to do this then the US.


We let them bomb Syria about a year ago. That's a much more likely scenario. We may even assist with refueling their fighters over Iraq.


If so, good for them. Let Isreal take care of the problem. They'll take the heat, but none of the Arab states will retaliate, knowing the U.S.A. is Isreal's big brother.

[scottinnj]

why is he still our president? :flush:

Because your Democratically-controlled Congress scurries like cockroaches when the lights are turned on every time you say "Impeach Him"

[scottinnj]

Why would Israel do that when they can guilt us into doing it for them?


Two scenarios:
PM Olmert is being invesitgated for bribery charges. He could order an attack on Iran to get the Isreali press off his back, sort of like the wag the dog situation Bill did to distract the American press away from the time Lewinsky was supposed to testify before the grand jury.

Or the Knesset could do a "no-confidence" vote on Olmert because of the investigation, forcing him to resign for the sake of his party, and in comes Netenyahu as PM, and he will have no second thoughts about an air strike.

[ChrisBrown]

He's not inherently evil, nor should any harm come his way. He's just a simpleton who was escorted into the deep end by a neo-conservative religious right which thankfully is slowing fading from view and hopefully in the years to come, America will shine again and we can stand firmly on our feet. Of course, the military industrial complex will screw that up, but at least we won't have to be embarrassed anymore.

Well said. I was going to say something along these lines but you put it much better than I could have.

As for the Iran attack, Seymour Hersh wrote a good article about Israel's attack on Hezbollah not working out that well slowed down the Iran attack plans. Hersh has excellent contacts in the Pentagon and I believe what he wrote on this topic. He said that the Bush plan was to attack Iran in a similar way that Israel hit Hezbollah targets in Lebanon. That Israeli operation was going to be a trial run for a larger US bombing campaign in Iran. When the Lebanon air strikes turned into a messier ground battle, there was much less enthusiasm for bombing Iran, especially from Rice's office. Now with Gates siding with Rice, there isn't the weight there was behind attacking Iran when Rumsfeld was in office.

Someone else in this thread mentioned that if this was 2006, he would believe the Iran attack rumors. I agree. I do think, however, that ADM Fallon's comments and resignation show that there is still strong support for an Iran attack, especially in the VP office.

[underdog]

Why hasn't he been assassinated yet?

In all seriousness, that is a question i ask every time i read something about him.

Because the crazy people with all the guns agree with him.

[Recyclerz]

Bump.

Seymour Hersh, who as Chris Brown pointed out is a good journalist with great contacts and who I'll credit with being one of the first journalists to call shenanigans on the current regime on the bullshit they peddled to get us into Iraq, has a new article in the New Yorker detailing the ground work they're doing to prepare for a possible attack on Iran.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

Although I hate being this way, you just can't be paranoid enough to keep up with the ambitions of the war criminals running this joint.

[PapaBear]

The more I heard about this today, the more depressed I got. I had to keep turning the TV off.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Well said. I was going to say something along these lines but you put it much better than I could have.

As for the Iran attack, Seymour Hersh wrote a good article about Israel's attack on Hezbollah not working out that well slowed down the Iran attack plans. Hersh has excellent contacts in the Pentagon and I believe what he wrote on this topic. He said that the Bush plan was to attack Iran in a similar way that Israel hit Hezbollah targets in Lebanon. That Israeli operation was going to be a trial run for a larger US bombing campaign in Iran. When the Lebanon air strikes turned into a messier ground battle, there was much less enthusiasm for bombing Iran, especially from Rice's office. Now with Gates siding with Rice, there isn't the weight there was behind attacking Iran when Rumsfeld was in office.

Someone else in this thread mentioned that if this was 2006, he would believe the Iran attack rumors. I agree. I do think, however, that ADM Fallon's comments and resignation show that there is still strong support for an Iran attack, especially in the VP office.
Also, the new Air Force leadership is from a spec ops background, while Gates just fired 2 of the biggest advocates for an upgraded fighter fleet. If we were planning an attack on Iran, Secretary Wynne and General Moseley would still have a job.

[ChrisBrown]

Bump.

Seymour Hersh, who as Chris Brown pointed out is a good journalist with great contacts and who I'll credit with being one of the first journalists to call shenanigans on the current regime on the bullshit they peddled to get us into Iraq, has a new article in the New Yorker detailing the ground work they're doing to prepare for a possible attack on Iran.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

Although I hate being this way, you just can't be paranoid enough to keep up with the ambitions of the war criminals running this joint.

Thanks for posting this article. I hadn't seen it yet and I believe what he wrote.

What bothers me the most about the US covert efforts to topple the Iranian leadership is the assumption that if we removed the current leaders, the Iranian people would thank us and install a pro-US, pro-Israel, pro-American oil company government. Luckily Gates is now the SECDEF. I get the impression that he does believe that a strike would lead to generations of jihadists, not a nation of grateful, pro-Western, capitalist consumers.

[A.J.]

Bump.

Seymour Hersh, who as Chris Brown pointed out is a good journalist with great contacts and who I'll credit with being one of the first journalists to call shenanigans on the current regime on the bullshit they peddled to get us into Iraq, has a new article in the New Yorker detailing the ground work they're doing to prepare for a possible attack on Iran.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

Although I hate being this way, you just can't be paranoid enough to keep up with the ambitions of the war criminals running this joint.

I just have to shake my head reading the stupidity involved here...and much of it revolves around the name "Cheney".