Soooo...nobody has any thoughts on this Dice thing?

[K.C.]

It's coming up shortly on the O&A replay...I haven't heard it yet. Personally, I think Dice fits a show like O&A's.

I checked out some of the other boards and a lot of people are pissed that they seemingly made up.

To me, it goes to show that the whole pest mentality thing does nothing but let those people down in the long run.

When you get rabidly behind something like some of those people are with O&A, to the point where you're calling shows, and trashing people regularly on their behalf...you're going to feel like an ass when they pull back the curtain and show the reality of the situation.

I remember reading post after post trashing terrestrial radio when O&A first got on XM, because O&A would trash regular radio...then they go back.

People trashed Dice for years, and especially after the Stern thing where he talked trash about Opie's dad...now, all of a sudden, they've made up, and understandably people who got behind trashing Dice now feel stupid for doing it.

I can't imagine how many people are going to jump from the ledge when the on-air O&A/Stern make-up comes along.

That's why listeners need to stay listeners...when you start thinking you're talking 'for the show,' it almost never ends well.

[underdog]

Yeah, I've just stopped being surprised when O&A make up with someone or are enemies of someone or anything like that.

That's why I love Ron and Fez. They got love for everyone. And Ron will actually trash people to their face.

[mikeyboy]

I can't say I care much one way or the other. I never thought Dice was all that great on the show. The strength of appearances were always when Anthony goofed on him.

[DiabloSammich]

Yeah, I've just stopped being surprised when O&A make up with someone or are enemies of someone or anything like that.

That's why I love Ron and Fez. They got love for everyone. And Ron will actually trash people to their face.



Perfectly said.

[hammersavage]

Mikey's right. Dice being the joke was way funnier than Dice trying to tell the jokes.

But it's cool to hear anyone from the old days back, can't wait for Breuer's return post-merger.

[K.C.]

Mikey's right. Dice being the joke was way funnier than Dice trying to tell the jokes.

But it's cool to hear anyone from the old days back, can't wait for Breuer's return post-merger.

Actually, I'd agree with that too, now that I think about Dice's 'contributions' over the years.

[Hottub]

It's on now.

[underdog]

How fucking bad is Dice's career that he has to go back to O&A?

[Hottub]

So Dice is thinking;

Hey! I'm fuckin' starvin' to death ova here now. O&A gave me a jumpstart 8 9 fuckin' years ago, so hey...

The making up does sound sincere.

[Lady Resin]

Dice can really hold a grudge.

[underdog]

Also, Dice and Sandy Kane sound a lot alike.

[K.C.]

Dice can really hold a grudge.

Man, you said it.

If this whole story is supposedly true, the guy is not only psychotic, but possibly retarded.

[Death Metal Moe]

Dice is an insane fucking asshole.

That being said, I am EXTREMELY excited if this sticks.

Listening to the replay now. He was so fucking great on the show, I hope he stays here now.

[led37zep]

*In Anthony's Dice voice*

OOOOH, its the Nice Dice!!!!!!

[jauble]

That did seem to be a pretty real moment, especially between Dice and Kenny. Regardless of what happens next I enjoyed listening to it.

[Jubjubs]

I agree that I never thought much of him on the show anyway but, fact is...At this point he and the O&A Show deserve each other.

Dice is a self-serving, paranoid douchebag. Didn't anyone see the train wreck of a TV show he had last year? I know O&A did, because they ripped it to fucking shreds. Now that he's there, he's not a nobody? I understand that he's loud and everything, but this isn't 1988, he's no longer relevant, and can't help the show beyond the uncomfortability factor. Yet not one of these guys can take him to task for the shit he's talked about them? Believe me, if I think theres even a possibility that you goofed on the death of a family member, you'll answer for it and you won't have the priviledge of turning the tables because your kid's feelings got hurt.

Listening to this was the same thing over and over. "I'm mad at you and I'll punish you by revoking your "Dice priviledges".

Phonys. The whole lot of em'. Phonys. Thank god for noon to 3.

[MobCounty]

I definately had a few chuckles thinking about all the tough talk over the years. Nothing a few bucks can't cure eh? In my personal life I steer clear of people who talk shit but don't hold to it, but my personal life would make shit for radio.

All in all, I think it's a fitting end to the bit and good radio to boot.:smoke:

[MobCounty]

.. Oh, and it also makes sense that Ope and Dice are setting a bit up for a gigantic boo-fest, where Dice could go on a massive rant ala Bill Burr's Virus Tour in Philly. Both parties would get a lot of heat from that bit. Ope could claim he set a trap for Dice. This would make all the naysayers love him again. Dice could claim he beat the crowd in a triumphant return as the arch villian to the show. This would also allow Dice to return to the OnA show a few more times to get the 'story' out.

Waka-waka.

[JDE]

I don't get the people who just want to hate on any and everything.

O&A having Dice on the show today was about helping two of their friends who have been in the middle of this feud, and also, doing good radio, isn't that what all of you who listen to the show, want?


Jimmy and to a lesser degree(as we heard today there was issues with him as well) Kenny have been pulled along into the Opie and Dice issue. Now Jimmy is doing business with Dice on his new HBO show, so it made all the sense in the world for him and Opie to discuss having Dice come on the show, to one, talk about what happened in the past, and two, have an interesting and maybe uncomfortable meeting of the minds.

This does not mean that Opie will now suddenly forgive Dice or become friendly with him. I am sure deep down there is nothing Dice could say or do, that would make Opie want to spend any time away from the show with him ever again.

I was never a big fan of when he was on in terms of Dice being some overly funny or sharp guy, but it was great radio. This was because Anthony and Opie made fun of him, but they also made him an interesting revelent person on the air at times.


Oh and just one comment on the actual interview, Dice is a deeply distubed fellow, if he was being honest about the reasons for his actions, he is just plain nuts.


Jason

[Phil_Nubbs]

It's coming up shortly on the O&A replay...I haven't heard it yet. Personally, I think Dice fits a show like O&A's.

I checked out some of the other boards and a lot of people are pissed that they seemingly made up.

To me, it goes to show that the whole pest mentality thing does nothing but let those people down in the long run.

When you get rabidly behind something like some of those people are with O&A, to the point where you're calling shows, and trashing people regularly on their behalf...you're going to feel like an ass when they pull back the curtain and show the reality of the situation.

I remember reading post after post trashing terrestrial radio when O&A first got on XM, because O&A would trash regular radio...then they go back.

People trashed Dice for years, and especially after the Stern thing where he talked trash about Opie's dad...now, all of a sudden, they've made up, and understandably people who got behind trashing Dice now feel stupid for doing it.

I can't imagine how many people are going to jump from the ledge when the on-air O&A/Stern make-up comes along.

That's why listeners need to stay listeners...when you start thinking you're talking 'for the show,' it almost never ends well.

Regardless of their "history", it's awful radio.

[smiler grogan]

When Dice showed up today I turned the radio off. Then I got bored at work and turned it back on, generally I never enjoyed Dice on Stern or O&A he's not for me. Dice Gay though is hilarious.The talk with Kenny especially dealing with his sons was touching. You could hear the affection in Dice's voice A genuine conversation by a guy who is a character is refreshing.

If Dice becomes a semiregular again i'll be bored by him but entertained by Anthony's impression the next day. Underwater Dice will be hilarious tomorrow.

[KC2OSO]

Also, Dice and Sandy Kane sound a lot alike.
Oh, there's a difference?

[Chigworthy]

Andrew=interesting; Dice=irritating.

[sailor]

i think the make-up was sincere and also good radio. dice will never be as big as he was before, but he is still good on the air with o&a. those saying o&a mocked him for being washed up, now they're thinking he's great are off the mark. it's kinda like r&f having crazed on or either show having big a. they're good on the show (people can debate that part) even though they're not big names outside the shows. also, this was nothing like what happened with whoopie or SJP. dice was invited on the show specifically to try to work things out.

and i definitely agree with others that dice is a full fledged lunatic. hanging out with someone for two years, then breaking off your friendship for something that was said at the beginning of those two years? cuckoo. and as for the dice on howard, he completely denies making fun of opie's father's death. i've never heard the audio of that show (have no desire to hear it either) but would tend to believe dice. or at least that dice believes it's true. then again, he could be going thru some beautiful mind level delusions. who knows?

[Zorro]

Oh, there's a difference?

Sandy Kane is funny?

[A.J.]

but this isn't 1988, he's no longer relevant,

QFT.

[Enabler]

Dice was pretty much the main reason I listened to O&A at WNEW. They were great. Yesterday was awesome and I hope Dice does the show again more often. Who cares who said what, just entertain the audience.

[Midkiff]

I listened to the fucking whole thing yesterday, and I still don't have any clear answer as to why Dice blew off Opie.

[K.C.]

I listened to the fucking whole thing yesterday, and I still don't have any clear answer as to why Dice blew off Opie.

He's a crazy maniac who got pissed at Opie showing him up in front of his son two years after the actual incident happened, and decided rather than just confronting him about it, he'd just never talk to him again.

[Midkiff]

He's a crazy maniac who got pissed at Opie showing him up in front of his son two years after the actual incident happened, and decided rather than just confronting him about it, he'd just never talk to him again.

OK... what's "the actual incident?"

[K.C.]

OK... what's "the actual incident?"

Opie bitching him out before Dice's big MSG return show, because Mancow blew up the spot by announcing it, or something stupid...I didn't understand the whole thing completely...but I think Opie went on some "We got you here, Dice" rant and then started bitching him out in front of his kid about how Mancow even knew or something like that.

The whole thing was ridiculous.

[Midkiff]

OK, I see. Thanks for clarifying for me.

[MobCounty]

I listened to the fucking whole thing yesterday, and I still don't have any clear answer as to why Dice blew off Opie.

Basically I get that Dice kept his mouth shut until after Madison Square Garden. This way Ope could not fuck with his gig.. Only when it was safe did he pulled up old Ope grudges.

Now he needs some heat and wants to be on HBO with Jimmy. He knows if he does not make up with the show, the fans will fuck him over. Thus, Dice crawls back to protect his check again.

The interesting thing, and where I find the great radio is in seeing how Ope unfolds his plan for Dice. Will he choose the fans point of view and F over Dice in some master plan, or will he trade all of his previous rants for the ability to get Dice back on the show.

It will also be fun to see how much the Pests will take before they feel slighted for believing in Ope's ranting bit.

[K.C.]

Now he needs some heat and wants to be on HBO with Jimmy. He knows if he does not make up with the show, the fans will fuck him over. Thus, Dice crawls back to protect his check again.

Actually, I caught the end of the show today on my ride in to work...Ope and Jimmy made an excellent point about this line of thought.

Dice has/had (I don't know what the deal is) a reality show on VH1 that he was basically hinging his entire career comeback on, and he didn't reach out to makeup up with O&A when he desperately could have used the press.

So why would he do it now for a 10 minute spot on Jim's HBO show?

It will also be fun to see how much the Pests will take before they feel slighted for believing in Ope's ranting bit.

If they didn't turn in their Pest cards when O&A went back to grab Howard's old slot after ripping terrestrial radio to shreds, they're never going to.

That was a much bigger 'tell the fans one thing and do the exact opposite' thing then this Dice thing is.

[JustJon]

Opie bitching him out before Dice's big MSG return show, because Mancow blew up the spot by announcing it, or something stupid...I didn't understand the whole thing completely...but I think Opie went on some "We got you here, Dice" rant and then started bitching him out in front of his kid about how Mancow even knew or something like that.

The whole thing was ridiculous.

Mancow took credit on air for MSG in 2000 and Dice let him.

[Midkiff]

Mancow took credit on air for MSG in 2000 and Dice let him.

Now that's the most clear and concise explanation I have heard.

[KC2OSO]

Sandy Kane is funny?
Dice's vagina is is bigger .

[dino_electropolis]

my thoughts:
washed up comedian tryin to revive career
meets
dj's with falling ratings tryin to save their career.





perfect match.

[hammersavage]

Opie bitching him out before Dice's big MSG return show, because Mancow blew up the spot by announcing it, or something stupid...I didn't understand the whole thing completely...but I think Opie went on some "We got you here, Dice" rant and then started bitching him out in front of his kid about how Mancow even knew or something like that.

The whole thing was ridiculous.

that does sound ridiculous. thanks for the recap.

[Furtherman]

my thoughts:
washed up comedian tryin to revive career
meets
dj's with falling ratings tryin to save their career.

My thoughts as well... although I think it was a little more Dice thinking, "Well, if I'm gonna do something with Norton, I'd better make nice."

I don't buy the "diabolical waiting for revenge" bit he was spewing.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Here's my theory and call me naive for having it if you want (and henceforth you will then have permission to suck my cock):

Life is short. They didn't hate each other. If they wanted desperately to revive ratings they'd move back to afternoon drive or dump XM altogether (it's a fucked medium at this point). Also, as is the case with friends+family gone astray over dumb shit years ago: Why fight those you remember sorta fondly 'till the day you die? Fuck it. One less thing to carry with ya to the grave. I think more than 1 person can relate to this generally universal fact of the human heart.

The end.

All other opinions about career moves and other BS shock-postings are made in complete ignorance of the truth due simply to the impossibility of reading minds- but it's not like I needed to point that out.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

My thoughts as well... although I think it was a little more Dice thinking, "Well, if I'm gonna do something with Norton, I'd better make nice."

I don't buy the "diabolical waiting for revenge" bit he was spewing.

I don't think that's the case at all. Almost every guest on O&A were also on Stern's show and never did any of them think they had to "make nice" one way or the other. There was reference to a "tragic" thing happening in Dice's personal life that they tastefully did not detail, so again, it probably threw the whole mortality vs. immature feuding scale into new scrutiny. Norton might've been an excuse to catalyze the whole reunion thing but I think it's probably been brewing in at least Dice's mind for awhile.

I don't buy the "diabolical" thing either...but I never gathered the impression that he was all that serious about that being an accurate description of motive. If you were ever a fan of the show during WNEW, you'd know ya gotta take everything Dice says on air with a grain of salt.

Besides, ya can't explain things you do in anger with well-written words that make perfect sense. Anger's too irrational an emotion to fit into proper scientific explanations made in hindsight.

[lleeder]

He's mad about stuff years after it happened. He tells people he's Superman. He has a a girl for you in your drawer. Great to have him on the show but he's clearly bonkers.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Great to see lleeder back

but Gvac starts the mentally unstable threads


copyright infringement


Wow u miss O & A for a few days

u get Dice back and O&A starting a war with a Guardian Angel

[CardiffGiant]

I welcome it. I enjoy the guys when they're having fun and not when they're in angry guy mode (Jimmy really got pissed at the end of today's show!). If they bury the hatchet great, and if not at least they confronted the issue. If there's ever something they're doing I don't like I change the channel for a bit and come back later, but unfortunately not all of us do that.

[zildjian361]

DICE RULES:king: great radio.

[starvingkids]

DICE RULES:king: great radio.
I agree... I was happy to hear the real dice again... I wonder how long until he gets pissed again? :annoyed:

[MobCounty]

Actually, I caught the end of the show today on my ride in to work...Ope and Jimmy made an excellent point about this line of thought.

Dice has/had (I don't know what the deal is) a reality show on VH1 that he was basically hinging his entire career comeback on, and he didn't reach out to makeup up with O&A when he desperately could have used the press.

So why would he do it now for a 10 minute spot on Jim's HBO show?




Well, that kinda shoots my shit to the sky.. Although, there could be an argument he may be more desperate now that his TV show crapped out.

[Fallon]

I don't like Dice, but it was good radio.

[Heather 8]

I agree... I was happy to hear the real dice again... I wonder how long until he gets pissed again? :annoyed:

Four years from Tuesday, if history is any indication. :wink:

It was nice to hear Andrew Silverstein, as opposed to the full-on Dice character. It may have been awkward, but it was good radio for me.

[ruggedo]

I dont really care if Dice becomes part of the show again,but that was some pretty good radio. Not many shows would try something like that. There was no plan, you could hear that it was all happening on the fly.
If Dice does come back tho and become a friend once again I will miss "Andrew Dice Gay", that was some of Anthony's best stuff since they've come back. I dont think they could do too much of that if he were a regular, and any thing they did do just wouldnt be as biting.

[smiler grogan]

I dont really care if Dice becomes part of the show again,but that was some pretty good radio. Not many shows would try something like that. There was no plan, you could hear that it was all happening on the fly.
If Dice does come back tho and become a friend once again I will miss "Andrew Dice Gay", that was some of Anthony's best stuff since they've come back. I dont think they could do too much of that if he were a regular, and any thing they did do just wouldnt be as biting.
they were goofing on Dice when he was a regular in the past. Listening to Opie the other day I doubt Dice will be an infrequent guest let alone a regular.

[Name]

Dice went back to Howie when O and A were off radio. He tried taking Dice back (like what's happening here), but his fans didn't buy it because of the shit Dice talked about him. Late 2006 for the taping of his reality show, Howie got Artie Lange to throw him a bone and open for him a couple times to get a big crowd shot and a bigger venue. The crowd (mostly Stern fans obviously) booed him off the stage and he cut his set to around 15 minutes.. Then Artie threw out a few weeks later he still hadn't been paid for the gig, and he probably wouldn't do a show again with him even though one was coming up. According to a Stern show rundown site he's only done a couple call ins since then and the most recent I could find was about 7 months ago. So it seems Howie's not showing him love, so he gets Jimmy to throw him a bone this time and time to make up with O and A

[docgoblin]

His whole story seemed like crap. He was so angry at Opie after the stuff he said in front of his kid that he let two years go by before it became an issue?!?! Dice also lied about his involvement with making light of Opie's Dad dying. He was deep in it as much as Stern. It's like a previous poster said; it was interesting radio last Tuesday. They needed the O&A fans to cut him slack for Jimmy's taping. You won't be hearing from him again in the near future... Except for Ant's impression. I'm sure if Anthony had been in on Wednesday, and we didn't have the Whole Antolini thing going on, there would have been some great Dice material the day after his visit.

BTW... Did anyone see the taping? Was Dice any good? It was only ten minutes so I imagine he pulled it off. He did have some funny lines on the show.

[KnoxHarrington]

Dice went back to Howie when O and A were off radio. He tried taking Dice back (like what's happening here), but his fans didn't buy it because of the shit Dice talked about him. Late 2006 for the taping of his reality show, Howie got Artie Lange to throw him a bone and open for him a couple times to get a big crowd shot and a bigger venue. The crowd (mostly Stern fans obviously) booed him off the stage and he cut his set to around 15 minutes.. Then Artie threw out a few weeks later he still hadn't been paid for the gig, and he probably wouldn't do a show again with him even though one was coming up. According to a Stern show rundown site he's only done a couple call ins since then and the most recent I could find was about 7 months ago. So it seems Howie's not showing him love, so he gets Jimmy to throw him a bone this time and time to make up with O and A

What made no sense about the story was why he'd feel the need to trash O&A for Stern. We always talk about a "radio war", but the truth is Stern hardly ever discusses O&A, and O&A don't mention the fact that a lot of their regular guests also appear on Stern. So it was utterly unnecessary on both sides for Dice to rip into them like that.

[Ron Marie Douglas]

It was great to hear Dice back. He made great radio in the past and I'm glad Opie got the opportunity to talk to him face to face. He's a good O &A Guest, hope to hear more from him.


For what it's worth, I drive my wife nuts with the Dice voice. Since I ran into him at the Paramus Park mall about 10 years ago with the who sweatsuit, gloves and weight lifting belt I'm hooked. Plus I'm from Jersey.

[sailor]

What made no sense about the story was why he'd feel the need to trash O&A for Stern. We always talk about a "radio war", but the truth is Stern hardly ever discusses O&A, and O&A don't mention the fact that a lot of their regular guests also appear on Stern. So it was utterly unnecessary on both sides for Dice to rip into them like that.

o&a actually mention the guest cross-over fairly often and that they have no problem with it.

[TjM]

Here's my theory and call me naive for having it if you want (and henceforth you will then have permission to suck my cock):

Life is short. They didn't hate each other. If they wanted desperately to revive ratings they'd move back to afternoon drive or dump XM altogether (it's a fucked medium at this point). Also, as is the case with friends+family gone astray over dumb shit years ago: Why fight those you remember sorta fondly 'till the day you die? Fuck it. One less thing to carry with ya to the grave. I think more than 1 person can relate to this generally universal fact of the human heart.

The end.

All other opinions about career moves and other BS shock-postings are made in complete ignorance of the truth due simply to the impossibility of reading minds- but it's not like I needed to point that out.

I think that sums it up perfectly