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Actually, I'd have to say I'm breaking with Ron on this one and agreeing with Earl. Whether or not young blacks kids really do care about rock, or the historical black cultural importance of blues and jazz and the impact it really had on rock, I think it's something worth preserving.
I don't really know what they do, but if they also try and help kids get some exposure that otherwise may not get a shot, I think that's a good idea, too.
Now, Earl's flaw is he doesn't know how to sell it...like when it came up today, he basically gave off the impression of "I think black kids should like rock."
That's kind of stupid...people are going to like what they're going to like. But if he said something like "I want to give an outlet to kids who may have talent, but may not get a lot of opportunities, because of the cultural climate locally, or in their city, or whatever..." that's a better sell.
Now, the other whole problem with Earl's selling of this is he's been the a producer for the Ron & Fez show since 2005, and done the majority of show openings....I don't think I've once heard him play or promote or give exposure to a BRC artist.
IMSlacker
05-27-2008, 02:07 PM
"Excruciatingly alienating" should be a poll option.
watson
05-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Black Racist Radio is more like it
cant we just enjoy the music without it getting defined by race ?
BlackSpider
05-27-2008, 06:34 PM
If I wanted to start a "white" rock coalition, or a "white" entertainment television,
It would be considered seperatist, and racist.
Also, rock is dead...
FUNKMAN
05-27-2008, 09:38 PM
what about richie valens and carlos sanatana mang?
PapaBear
05-27-2008, 09:45 PM
It's something that some people are involved with, because they enjoy being involved in it. And it MIGHT actually be useful to some musicians. I don't see anything wrong with it at all. They'd probably be better off without Earl's help, though. He's in a position (being on a National show) to help the group a great deal, but his contributions end up making the whole thing look pathetic.
Chigworthy
05-28-2008, 06:02 AM
I can't wait for a Hmong Rock Coalition. I think it's important to individually recognize every race that has contributed to the global rock culture.
MadMatt
05-28-2008, 07:32 AM
It's something that some people are involved with, because they enjoy being involved in it. And it MIGHT actually be useful to some musicians. I don't see anything wrong with it at all. They'd probably be better off without Earl's help, though. He's in a position (being on a National show) to help the group a great deal, but his contributions end up making the whole thing look pathetic.
I think you hit the nail on the head, PapaBear. Many people hear Earl and think the organization is just the punchline to a joke.
Given the travesty of a BRC show he did on 202 one Saturday night and his complete inability to convey the true purpose of the BRC, Earl is just putting holes in the boat.
LaBoob
05-28-2008, 07:37 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head, PapaBear. Many people hear Earl and think the organization is just the punchline to a joke.
Given the travesty of a BRC show he did on 202 one Saturday night and his complete inability to convey the true purpose of the BRC, Earl is just putting holes in the boat.
Thank you for making my point perfectly!
BRC needs a new "executive director". Period.
Forget the photography challenge, Earl's been working on this one for years and always comes up short.
If I wanted to start a "white" rock coalition, or a "white" entertainment television,
It would be considered seperatist, and racist.
Actually, that does exist...it's called Panzerfaust Records (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPanzerf aust_Records&ei=eXs9SK7jJoyg8gT59pS3BA&usg=AFQjCNGnrKWXTjjjDeTNQHED-M-Ilh4Ktg&sig2=aZdL6OgpzgHNFNxm96_Qsw). And it is absolutely seperatist and racist.
I think people miss the point, of what, at least I gather is Earl's objective (which admittedly is difficult to get through his mumbles, butchering of the English language, and overall inability to express anything on the radio).
I don't think it's about 'Affirmative Action in Rock' or 'seperating and creating Rock for blacks only.'
I think it's more of a cultural preservation thing. There's a lot of black roots in how Rock came about.
Now, the problem is, as everyone has said, Earl doesn't use the platform he has to get that point across.
Chigworthy
05-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Cultural preservation is good, but the term "Black" refers to a race, not a culture. Cee-lo and Vernon Reid have not taught me about the African roots of the banjo, which is an underated part of rock history.
KingGeno
05-28-2008, 11:56 AM
If I created the White Hip-Hop Organization of America, and tried to sell the idea of white hip-hop artists to white americans....even they would think I am a lame white boy.
MadMatt
05-28-2008, 12:21 PM
Cultural preservation is good, but the term "Black" refers to a race, not a culture. Cee-lo and Vernon Reid have not taught me about the African roots of the banjo, which is an underated part of rock history.
I think they haven't changed the name of the org. for the same reason the NAACP hasn't changed theirs - popular name recognition.
The BRC has been around for a while and has at least a little bit of name recognition - although I wouldn't think it is enough to keep them from changing their name, I am not in the music business and the organization isn't "speaking to me."
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