When did musicians start putting words to music?

[oh_kee_pa]

maybe i'm crazy, and it could have been since the beginning of time...
but if i'm not, was there a point that when musicians would create a piece of music they would have lyrics for it?

[SatCam]

1987

[Phil_Nubbs]

Words?! Kenny G doesn't need no stinkin' words.

[paracetamol flanders]

The "oldest known song" was written in cuneiform, dating to 4,000 years ago from Ur. It was deciphered by Prof. Anne Draffkorn Kilmer (University of Calif. at Berkeley), and was demonstrated to be composed in harmonies of thirds, like ancient gymel (Kilmer, Crocker, Brown, Sounds from Silence, 1976, Bit Enki, Berkeley, Calif., LCC 76-16729), and also was written using a Pythagorean tuning of the diatonic scale.


That song: The Same Amount Of Bottles Of Beer On The Wall As There Are Ewe's In Usha's Herd (Arabic numerals had yet to be developed).

[Don Stugots]

When they realized it would get them laid.

[DarkHippie]

The "oldest known song" was written in cuneiform, dating to 4,000 years ago from Ur. It was deciphered by Prof. Anne Draffkorn Kilmer (University of Calif. at Berkeley), and was demonstrated to be composed in harmonies of thirds, like ancient gymel (Kilmer, Crocker, Brown, Sounds from Silence, 1976, Bit Enki, Berkeley, Calif., LCC 76-16729), and also was written using a Pythagorean tuning of the diatonic scale.


That song: The Same Amount Of Bottles Of Beer On The Wall As There Are Ewe's In Usha's Herd (Arabic numerals had yet to be developed).

BRAVO!!! :clap:

[Chigworthy]

I would assume vocals came before instruments.

[Jughead]

When they realized it would get them laid.

True..And if you look them in the eye you can be the best looking guy on earth:wink:

[Reynolds]

I would assume vocals came before instruments.

So would I , unless he means actual lyrics, and not just vocals. I would imagine some kind of vocal sound like chanting came before any musical instruments.

[Franklyn]

I'd say from before music was considered music people were using percussion to accompany stories. I'd say as long as language was around so were lyrics.

[Reynolds]

I'd say from before music was considered music people were using percussion to accompany stories. I'd say as long as language was around so were lyrics.

You don't think that before language there was humming, or some kind of musical sounding gibberish?

[Franklyn]

You don't think that before language there was humming, or some kind of musical sounding gibberish?

No doubt you may be right. I just generally tap when I hum also. So I think they may have all started together.

[Coach]

The "oldest known song" was written in cuneiform, dating to 4,000 years ago from Ur. It was deciphered by Prof. Anne Draffkorn Kilmer (University of Calif. at Berkeley), and was demonstrated to be composed in harmonies of thirds, like ancient gymel (Kilmer, Crocker, Brown, Sounds from Silence, 1976, Bit Enki, Berkeley, Calif., LCC 76-16729), and also was written using a Pythagorean tuning of the diatonic scale.



Songs were older than that..they pre-existed writing..not only was it was a method of entertainment..it was used for teaching history, hunting, and societal law..many believe it dates back to early in the dawn of man.
I forget the technical term for it..but "Traditional" native dances like the hula and those of native american tribes..are examples of songs that teach but have no words.

[paracetamol flanders]

Songs were older than that..they pre-existed writing..not only was it was a method of entertainment..it was used for teaching history, hunting, and societal law..many believe it dates back to early in the dawn of man.
I forget the technical term for it..but "Traditional" native dances like the hula and those of native american tribes..are examples of songs that teach but have no words.

Aum (Om) is said to be the primordial sound that was present at the creation of the universe. It is said to be the original sound that contains all other sounds, all words, all languages and all mantras. Therefore, since this is obviously true, the first ever thing might be said to be a song. So there.

That song: Aum....................Bottles Of Beer On The Wall.

[Mike Teacher]

humans arent the only creatures making music.

animals have beaten us by a few hundreds of millions of years, minimum.

[paracetamol flanders]

humans arent the only creatures making music.

animals have beaten us by a few hundreds of millions of years, minimum.

Is Jingle Cats really that old?

[topless_mike]

ask gvac.

[Dougie Brootal]

maybe i'm crazy, and it could have been since the beginning of time...
but if i'm not, was there a point that when musicians would create a piece of music they would have lyrics for it?

when gvac taught them how.













































thats not a "gvac is old" joke, thats a "gvac is a musical genius" reference.

[mendyweiss]

http://jazzamsterdam.org/foto/basles.jpg
I Want To Know Who The First Cat Was Who Lost That Fucking Bow And Played With His FIngers On The Double Bass ?

[A.J.]

humans arent the only creatures making music.

animals have beaten us by a few hundreds of millions of years, minimum.

Really? I thought it was only since 1962. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Animals)