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topless_mike
06-06-2008, 07:08 AM
we get fucked at the pump.

story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices)

NEW YORK - Oil prices shot up nearly $7 a barrel Friday, extending big gains from the previous day and racing toward an all-time high after a Morgan Stanley analyst predicted prices could hit $150 by the Fourth of July.

Light, sweet crude for July delivery jumped $6.27 to $134.06 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Earlier, the contract rose as high as $134.68.

Friday's surge builds on a $5.49 gain Thursday, which was the biggest single-day price increase in the history of the Nymex crude contract. That spike came as the dollar fell in response to comments by the European Central Bank suggesting the bank could raise interest rates.

Prices pushed sharply higher Friday after Morgan Stanley analyst Ole Slorer said he expected strong demand in Asia that could drive prices to $150 by July 4. Shipments from the Middle East are mimicking patterns seen in the third quarter last year, when Morgan Stanley based its "oil price spike" predictions on Atlantic Basin draws, he said.

A.J.
06-06-2008, 07:17 AM
we get fucked at the pump.

When which man speaks?

http://web.comhem.se/~u73909834/bush4.jpg

Recyclerz
06-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Oh, how the times change!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A05EFDE1538F936A35757C0A9659C8B 63&scp=1&sq=Hummers+patriotic&st=nyt

$139/ barrel at the end of the day. I have a couple of theories on what is happening with the price of oil and here they are - from bad to worse:

Speculators have gotten control of the market at the margins and are just bidding up the price, all lemming like, until the bubble pops
The dollar is paying the price of 7 and 1/2 years of fiscal mismanagement exaggerating the price movements in a commodity priced in the Benjamins
Demand, short of a global recession, really is this high and the supercharged developing economies are willing to spend their diminishingly valued $ on raw materials to keep their bidnesses humming
All of the above plus the idea that production of the easy oil really has peaked and cannot keep up with demand in the short or intermediate terms


Hey, Have a Nice Day! :smile::bye:

mendyweiss
06-06-2008, 01:47 PM
Wait A Minute, Doesn't Kuwait Owe Us A Solid From The 1st War ?
Plug A Pipeline Right Into Jersey, That's What I Say !

hunnerbun
06-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Yup, I got ass raped at the gas station this morning. Last time I filled up, last week i paid $1.299/L today it was up to $1.329/L...so thats $5.03/gallon....boy howdy my arsehole hurt after that one!

FUNKMAN
06-06-2008, 03:06 PM
lost almost 4 1/2% on my mutual funds today... i'm ready to start taking people out

Mike Teacher
06-06-2008, 03:12 PM
lost almost 4 1/2% on my mutual funds today... i'm ready to start taking people out

Blue Horseshoe loves Endicott Steel...

DarkHippie
06-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Oh, how the times change!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A05EFDE1538F936A35757C0A9659C8B 63&scp=1&sq=Hummers+patriotic&st=nyt


Hey, Have a Nice Day! :smile::bye:

What the fuck? Do these hummer drivers really think that they are helping the country by driving these monsters? Real solidiers die in their hummers so that these assholes can play solider in theres

And of course they eat up all of our gas. Fuck them!

scottinnj
06-07-2008, 08:29 PM
I love this line from the story Recyclerz posted:

Rick Schmidt, founder of I.H.O.G., the International Hummer Owners Group, said: ''In my humble opinion, the H2 is an American icon. Not the military version by any means, but it's a symbol of what we all hold so dearly above all else, the fact we have the freedom of choice, the freedom of happiness, the freedom of adventure and discovery, and the ultimate freedom of expression.''

''Those who deface a Hummer in words or deed,'' he added, ''deface the American flag and what it stands for.''


L U N A T I C S !!!

Dudeman
06-07-2008, 10:17 PM
I love this line from the story Recyclerz posted:




L U N A T I C S !!!

look at this exchange between then white house press sec ari fleisher and a reporter:

"Q Is one of the problems with this, and the entire energy field, American lifestyles? Does the President believe that, given the amount of energy Americans consume per capita, how much it exceeds any other citizen in any other country in the world, does the President believe we need to correct our lifestyles to address the energy problem?

MR. FLEISCHER: That's a big no. The President believes that it's an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one. And we have a bounty of resources in this country. "

FUNKMAN
06-07-2008, 10:33 PM
not entirely bush's fault but how the fuck do you talk to the country and try to convince people that putting 300 to 600 dollars in a person or family's pocket is going to turn their lives and economy around... either he's a bold faced liar or he has absolutely no understanding what it means to struggle

how about telling every fucking corporation in this country that if you outsource any of your staff to a foreign country you will lose every goddamn tax break you are receiving... for starters

edit: okay not gas related, just venting... tee-hee

Reynolds
06-07-2008, 10:38 PM
Wouldn't the logical solution to all of this be for auto makers to design an alternative fuel vehicle? Does big oil actually have that much of a grip on the big auto manufacturers that it keeps them from inventing and mass marketing one? I can maybe see them having that hold on US auto makers, but come on Japan, you make all this cool shit, and can't get a decent vehicle out there that doesn't run on fossil fuels?

led37zep
06-07-2008, 11:09 PM
I think I'm just going to build a refinery...anybody want to chip in? I'll set up a pay pal account.

PapaBear
06-07-2008, 11:39 PM
What are you people complaining about? Gas is only 2 bucks!!! (http://www.nbc4.com/traffic/16439198/detail.html)

TooLowBrow
06-07-2008, 11:41 PM
come on Japan, you make all this cool shit, and can't get a decent vehicle out there that doesn't run on fossil fuels?

http://www.wpclipart.com/transportation/bicycle/bicycle_yellow.png

LaBoob
06-08-2008, 03:21 AM
This gas business is one of the great things about being laid off... I no longer have to fill my tank twice a day, pay for it in advance, and wait 2 months for my company to reimburse me...


Then again... this gas issue is probably one of the main reasons my company couldn't afford to keep me.

:wacko:

A.J.
06-08-2008, 10:14 AM
MR. FLEISCHER: That's a big no. The President believes that it's an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one. And we have a bounty of resources in this country. "

It's true. We're just not allowed to get at them.

http://www.unc.edu/~money/geography/anwr1_files/image001.jpg

Kevin
06-08-2008, 10:35 AM
we get fucked at the pump.

story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices)

Well, Israel's statement that they would have no choice but attack Iran if they do not stop their Nuke program, did not help things much either. Maybe their Prez should really concentrate on not taking bribes 1st...

MobCounty
06-08-2008, 10:48 AM
I think gas should be $7.00 a gallon if you voted for Bush, and $2.00 a gallon if you didn't.

Zorro
06-08-2008, 12:00 PM
http://www.nysun.com/business/for-hummer-salesmen-life-in-the-slow-lane/79451/

For Hummer Salesmen, Life in The Slow Lane
By CATHERINE BILKEY, Special to the Sun
June 6, 2008
Salesmen at the Hummer of Manhattan dealership on Eleventh Avenue sat idly in their showroom on a recent weekday, waiting for customers.


...the new Maytag Repairman...

nukinfuts
06-08-2008, 05:49 PM
To beat it all...the Chinese are drilling for oil in our hemisphere....because we wanted to protect the beauty...F@#! that...the Chinese are drilling at an angle to get to the oil... What a crock of shit.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Gulf-Of-Mexico-Open-For-Drilling&id=889539

Much of the Gulf of Mexico has been off limits for oil drilling for the last 25 years. Congress has protected the area of the continental shelf for its beauty and its necessary role in providing what is essentially an underwater nursery for developing plant and animal life in the region. The current high price of oil and perhaps the threat of foreign companies using directional drilling from the other side of the Gulf, via Havana, has motivated Congress to relax their ban on drilling, allowing four key offshore states sole royalties from the newly allowed offshore leases.

The newly released area of 8.3 million acres in the eastern Gulf of Mexico promises to possess holdings of enough natural gas to heat and cool nearly 6 million American homes for the next 15 years. The move to allow drilling is undeniably motivated by the millions of voting Americans that believe foreign oil dependence to be a problem most easily solved by merely acquiring and exploiting more domestic resources such as these reserves off of Florida's Coast. Cuba has been making deals with foreign oil companies from as far away as China and India, perceivably giving them permission to drill off the coast of Havana. American companies were given the chance to drill in these Cuban sites, but were of course barred from entering into contracts because of the U.S. continued embargo against doing business with Cuba. It seems that while the U.S. snoozed, other oil hungry nations like China and India, seeing Cuban oil as a viable option of supplying their energy needs, have seized these supplies as their own.

TooLowBrow
06-09-2008, 05:04 AM
To beat it all...the Chinese are drilling for oil in our hemisphere....because we wanted to protect the beauty...F@#! that...the Chinese are drilling at an angle to get to the oil... What a crock of shit.


they stole that idea from monty burns

topless_mike
06-09-2008, 06:04 AM
Yup, I got ass raped at the gas station this morning. Last time I filled up, last week i paid $1.299/L today it was up to $1.329/L...so thats $5.03/gallon....boy howdy my arsehole hurt after that one!

you pay by the litre. you deserve it. eh?

topless_mike
06-09-2008, 06:05 AM
F@#! that...the Chinese are drilling at an angle to get to the oil...

because their eyes dont open all the way ?

A.J.
06-09-2008, 06:08 AM
To beat it all...the Chinese are drilling for oil in our hemisphere....because we wanted to protect the beauty...F@#! that...the Chinese are drilling at an angle to get to the oil... What a crock of shit.

they stole that idea from monty burns

There are a lot of things that the Chinese steal.

TheMojoPin
06-09-2008, 06:16 AM
So now people are complaining about other countries drilling Cuban oil...despite the fact that America not drilling there is due completely to the economic embargo that the United States itself creaed almost 50 years ago against and actually made into federal law in the 90's.

How did anyone screw up there except for the United States? Flipping out because a revolutionary government (that wasn't communist until the U.S. backed them into a corner) was talking about dealing the U.S. on a more even level politically and economically as opposed to having always been trated like an indentured colony? The U.S. can't drill down there becase the U.S. made it illegal for "ourselves" to drill down there because of Cold War-era bullshit.

A.J.
06-09-2008, 06:27 AM
So now people are complaining about other countries drilling Cuban oil...despite the fact that America not drilling there is due completely to the economic embargo that the United States itself creaed almost 50 years ago against and actually made into federal law in the 90's.

How did anyone screw up there except for the United States? Flipping out because a revolutionary government (that wasn't communist until the U.S. backed them into a corner) was talking about dealing the U.S. on a more even level politically and economically as opposed to having always been trated like an indentured colony? The U.S. can't drill down there becase the U.S. made it illegal for "ourselves" to drill down there because of Cold War-era bullshit.

Thanks President Kennedy from shutting us off from Cuber.

I recently saw a piece that Dan Rather did on Cuba (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_March_24/ai_n24944562) and U.S. business having very limited access to conducting trade via the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association (http://www.uscuba.org/). This piece also talked about the Chinese influence in Cuba.

Because of this ass-backward embargo, which is being done strictly to placate the Cubans down in Miami, we are losing out on huge business opportunites right off our coast. As Tom Hagen said "Now if we don't get into it, somebody else will." Looks like they already have.

TheMojoPin
06-09-2008, 06:43 AM
Thanks President Kennedy from shutting us off from Cuber.

I recently saw a piece that Dan Rather did on Cuba (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_March_24/ai_n24944562) and U.S. business having very limited access to conducting trade via the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association (http://www.uscuba.org/). This piece also talked about the Chinese influence in Cuba.

Because of this ass-backward embargo, which is being done strictly to placate the Cubans down in Miami, we are losing out on huge business opportunites right off our coast. As Tom Hagen said "Now if we don't get into it, somebody else will." Looks like they already have.

And it was Clinton who signed it into law, removing the presidential ability to lift the embargo.

Carter was the only president that even hinted at dropping this crap. Obama has at least talked about lifting the travel restrictions, but that's about it.

And like the sanctions against Iraq, all the embargo does is just fuck up the lives of the everyday Cuban.

A.J.
06-09-2008, 06:45 AM
It's such a stupid, useless and ultimately unsuccessful policy. We're losing out on business, cigars and baseball prospects -- and we don't know what the hell is going on in our backyard.

And canx Radio Marti while we're at it. That's been another colossal waste.

topless_mike
06-09-2008, 06:56 AM
It's such a stupid, useless and ultimately unsuccessful policy. We're losing out on business, cigars and baseball prospects -- and we don't know what the hell is going on in our backyard.



and for what? some stupid russian missles? Japan actually bombed us and rebuilt them and gave them a handy. for what? cheap tv's ?

besides. have you ever seen a cuban ass that you didnt want to slip it in?

TheMojoPin
06-09-2008, 07:00 AM
It's such a stupid, useless and ultimately unsuccessful policy. We're losing out on business, cigars and baseball prospects -- and we don't know what the hell is going on in our backyard.

And canx Radio Marti while we're at it. That's been another colossal waste.

No kidding. Radio Marti might as well drop the bullshit and just become a totally Miami-based and focused radio station.

FUNKMAN
06-09-2008, 02:08 PM
Saudi calls for talks; oil experts see no change (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080609/ap_on_bi_ge/saudi_oil)

Madani said that the kingdom has informed "all oil companies it deals with as well as countries that consume oil that (the kingdom) is ready to provide them with any additional oil they need."

nukinfuts
06-09-2008, 04:44 PM
So now people are complaining about other countries drilling Cuban oil...despite the fact that America not drilling there is due completely to the economic embargo that the United States itself creaed almost 50 years ago against and actually made into federal law in the 90's.

How did anyone screw up there except for the United States? Flipping out because a revolutionary government (that wasn't communist until the U.S. backed them into a corner) was talking about dealing the U.S. on a more even level politically and economically as opposed to having always been trated like an indentured colony? The U.S. can't drill down there becase the U.S. made it illegal for "ourselves" to drill down there because of Cold War-era bullshit.


We do tend to screw ourselves in America don't we or the government seems to screw us. In order to be politically correct...how in the hell do we cut off any ties with Cuba but it's okay to crawl up China's ass and import all of their shitty lead and antifreeze laced stuff and to hold the fricking Olympics there...hello China is communist. I hate to think of what this country is going to be when my kids are my age and I am not talking about the environment I am talking about the economy and how they are going to have jobs and cars and stuff. I am at the point of saying screw the environment and screw the penquins and polar bears in Alaska this country needs to grow a set. Last time I checked penguins and polar bears don't pay for my gasoline and really what do they contribute other than their "cuteness" screw that. :furious:

topless_mike
06-17-2008, 11:46 AM
well, turns out the govt may end up telling him to STFU.

that is, if they dont fuck it up first.

story (http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/17/news/economy/oil_trading/index.htm?cnn=yes)

high fly
06-21-2008, 11:24 AM
It's true. We're just not allowed to get at them.

http://www.unc.edu/~money/geography/anwr1_files/image001.jpg

Besides ANWR, I heard the oil companies have leases for 68 million acres of land that has oil under it....

scottinnj
06-21-2008, 12:31 PM
Besides ANWR, I heard the oil companies have leases for 68 million acres of land that has oil under it....

They may have the leases, but in some (not all) cases, the state and local governments restrict them from actual development. It's that pesky 10th amendment thing. The feds can make all the leases they want, but it's state property.