View Full Version : Which Ethnic Group Do You Believe Based on Your Experiences is the Most Racist?
Bowel
06-17-2008, 01:55 PM
I gotta go with the blacks .... Earl is one racist motherfucker.
In fact, Earl Douglas is a black supremacist who believes that Africans are the greatest people and either invented or was the catalyst for the invention of everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy
Kevin
06-17-2008, 01:57 PM
Jesus, do you pay alot of attention to Earl. He should hire you to be there all the time. This is the most attention he has had on him... ever. His folks probably don't even do it as much.
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Since there is no poll yet, I'll say Martians. I do not trust a race that I have not met.
Fuck em!
edit: I see the poll now.
Hispanic is too vague.
I stand by my original.
mikeyboy
06-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Did it ever occur to you that Earl is running with a bit?
Also, isn't it kind of pot kettle situation when you use steretypes to label a race as racist?
Bowel
06-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Jesus, do you pay alot of attention to Earl. He should hire you to be there all the time. This is the most attention he has had on him... ever. His folks probably don't even do it as much.
Yep ... Earl is on my mind ALL THE TIME. What with my 29 posts and all.
Kevin
06-17-2008, 02:03 PM
Yep ... Earl is on my mind ALL THE TIME. What with my 29 posts and all.
You have started like 3 4 threads on things he said.
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:06 PM
Yep ... Earl is on my mind ALL THE TIME. What with my 29 posts and all.
You have started like 3 4 threads on things he said.
10 of his 29 posts have the word Earl in it.
That is an alarming 34% of his life on RF.net has something to do with Earl.
:unsure:
ChrisTheCop
06-17-2008, 02:06 PM
You have started like 3 4 threads on things he said.
It's a man crush, pure and simple. Let em be.
3 4, you say? you know whose number that is dontcha???
Bowel
06-17-2008, 02:09 PM
Did it ever occur to you that Earl is running with a bit?
Also, isn't it kind of pot kettle situation when you use steretypes to label a race as racist?
I understand that Earl is running with a bit like when Ron was asking him about electing various black people for president but I don't get the feeling that Earl is joking when he usually sides with someone who is of African Descent instead of the police ... or even his affection for Obama.
Also, isn't it kind of pot kettle situation when you use steretypes to label a race as racist?
Absolutely .... if you are like the great majority of people in this world who don't associate certain behavior(s) with a peticular ethnic background, then please ignore this thread.
Unfortunately, I happen to be one of the EXTREMELY few people left in this world that think these about things.
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:09 PM
It's a man crush, pure and simple. Let em be.
3 4, you say? you know whose number that is dontcha???
Kirby Puckett?
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 02:11 PM
I voted for the crackers, shocker, with the idea that the poll is referring to these groups living in America.
gotta be whites. as a guy from Mass this past week all I've heard is
"It would be nice if they win BUT I don't care about african handball"
"Who cares about ****aball"
etc....etc
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 02:12 PM
There are no African-Americans, they are Blacks and that's who I voted for. (Waka-waka-waka)
Bowel
06-17-2008, 02:12 PM
You have started like 3 4 threads on things he said.
10 of his 29 posts have the word Earl in it.
That is an alarming 34% of his life on RF.net has something to do with Earl.
:unsure:
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
It is alarming. I think I need help. Both of you guys are spot on when you point this out. Earl is on my mind 34% of my waking thoughts. I admit it!!!
Kevin
06-17-2008, 02:14 PM
Kirby Puckett?
Walter Payton??
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:14 PM
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
It is alarming. I think I need help. Both of you guys are spot on when you point this out. Earl is on my mind 34% of my waking thoughts. I admit it!!!
39% of 31 total.
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Walter Payton??
Bo Jackson?
patsopinion
06-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Japanese people are fucking racists
underdog
06-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Did it ever occur to you that Earl is running with a bit?
There's no way Earl could run with a bit.
Kevin
06-17-2008, 02:18 PM
Bo Jackson?
Lamont Jordan?
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:20 PM
Lamont Jordan?
Herschel Walker??:wallbash:
ChrisBrown
06-17-2008, 02:24 PM
I voted for the crackers, shocker, with the idea that the poll is referring to these groups living in America.
If we were talking about just the States I would have gone with whites. I saw East Asians on the list and went with them because I have never experienced racism worse than in China, Japan, and Korea.
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 02:27 PM
If we were talking about just the States I would have gone with whites. I saw East Asians on the list and went with them because I have never experienced racism worse than in China, Japan, and Korea.
I was thinking in terms of casual American racism. All of those groups will pull out the stops at times when confronted with aspects of another race they don't like, by too many whites by far seem to be the ones who too often enjoy making a hobby out of it and going out of their way to be as racist as possible like it's something to be proud of.
But yeah, this discussion is much bigger if we go global. China is and always has been incredibly racist in their historical perspective going back centuries that they're better than EVERYONE, and that thinking still influences a lot over there today.
Kevin
06-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Herschel Walker??:wallbash:
OHHHHHHHHHH.. I think he means a Boston player..
Paul Pierce?
RhinoinMN
06-17-2008, 02:28 PM
OHHHHHHHHHH.. I think he means a Boston player..
Paul Pierce?
FTW.
tapping out.
Kevin
06-17-2008, 02:29 PM
FTW.
tapping out.
Yea, i am running out of 34's...
DarkHippie
06-17-2008, 02:32 PM
Only Whitey can commit genocide and enslave an entire race and call it "Manifest Destiny"
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 02:34 PM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAH!!!
Sometimes the public results of a poll are just too perfect.
ChrisBrown
06-17-2008, 02:39 PM
Only Whitey can commit genocide and enslave an entire race and call it "Manifest Destiny"
good point. Now I am wishing I could change my vote from East Asian to white. Not only are whites big on casual prejudice ("I know it's not politically correct but...") but we have been pretty effective in destroying groups of people and not giving a shit because they are brown or black.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=Bowel;1761022]I gotta go with the blacks .... Earl is one racist motherfucker.
QUOTE]
So you're gonna base your opinion on one black person you hear on the radio? :thumbdown:
At least base it on a person you know in real life.
torker
06-17-2008, 02:54 PM
I blame the Jews.
Dude!
06-17-2008, 02:56 PM
Japanese people are fucking racists
i noticed that too
japs and most other varieties of chinks are really xenophobic and especially hate black people
fuck racism
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 03:00 PM
i noticed that too
japs and most other varieties of chinks are really xenophobic and especially hate black people
fuck racism
Irony.
Heather 8
06-17-2008, 03:05 PM
So you're gonna base your opinion one black person you hear on the radio? :thumbdown:
At least base it on a person you know in real life.
Which is why I picked white people. I'd like to offer Exhibits A through infinity, aka my family. :thumbdown:
SlicedAlone
06-17-2008, 03:14 PM
Hispanics. Here in Southern California at least. Its really only towards blacks though. I have never heard the word nigger thrown around by anybody as much as I have from Mexicans and i've heard them say the shit out in the open. Mayate or sapo are other terms they use alot. You go to some parts of L.A. and you'll see graffiti that says fuck niggers and all sorts of other shit, its like 1950's Birmingham.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6odDIkMIDw
Bowel
06-17-2008, 03:29 PM
So you're gonna base your opinion on one black person you hear on the radio? :thumbdown:
At least base it on a person you know in real life.
Well, I thought I keep it show related but to add to my reasoning ... a significant number of blacks that I have met are predudice against most ethnic groups ... particularly Koreans and blame "white" American for the crack epidemic, lack of education, high rates of incarcerations and crime.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 03:30 PM
Well, I thought I keep it show related but to add to my reasoning ... a significant number of blacks that I have met are predudice against most ethnic groups ... particularly Koreans and blame "white" American for the crack epidemic, high rates of incarcerations and crime.
They must be ignorant as you are then.
Bowel
06-17-2008, 03:39 PM
They must be ignorant as you are then.
Which Ethnic Group Do You Believe Based on Your Experiences is the Most Racist?
It is unfortunate that I haven't encountered a majority of blacks who don't bring up racism whenever those topics are brought up.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 03:40 PM
Which Ethnic Group Do You Believe Based on Your Experiences is the Most Racist?
It is unfortunate that I haven't encountered a majority of blacks who don't bring up racism whenever those topics are brought up.
based on my experience, you're a little too interested in what black people are doing. Mind your business.
mikeyboy
06-17-2008, 03:43 PM
Which Ethnic Group Do You Believe Based on Your Experiences is the Most Racist?
It is unfortunate that I haven't encountered a majority of blacks who don't bring up racism whenever those topics are brought up.
Um. You're the one who brought up racism. It's the theme of your thread.
Your labelling of an entire race of people as racist based on your experiences with a small handful reeks of irony.
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 03:52 PM
based on my experience, you're a little too interested in what black people are doing.
I love African American Rage.
Are you voting for hope or change?
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I love African American Rage.
Are you voting for hope or change?
What are you voting for? Death or more Death?
Am I acting black enough for you? You never gave me those notes.
Bowel
06-17-2008, 04:10 PM
Um. You're the one who brought up racism. It's the theme of your thread.
Your labelling of an entire race of people as racist based on your experiences with a small handful reeks of irony.
So it's wrong to say it's wrong to say "based on my experience, I find most black people to be racist?"
I don't argue that there's a degree of racism in the topic (never argued against it. I responed to you about that already link (http://ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1761046&postcount=9)) but don't think that one would label me as a racist for bringing it up. Nor am I "complaining" that most black people that I have met blame racisms for the stuff that I mentioned ... in some instances it's true, but it's also untrue.
But maybe your right, I am probably a hugely racist motherfucker.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 04:18 PM
Based on my experience every racial group is about equally racist.
STC-Dub
06-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Those Cylons are horribly racist!
sailor
06-17-2008, 04:22 PM
whatever mojo is. he hates white folk.
GreatAmericanZero
06-17-2008, 04:28 PM
i definitley think blacks are more race obsessed
Kevin
06-17-2008, 04:30 PM
i definitley think blacks are more race obsessed
Serious question..
Is the term 'blacks' bad?
I just think it kinda sounds weird..
I guess its the same as whites, but it just sounds strange to me..
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 04:33 PM
Serious question..
Is the term 'blacks' bad?
I just think it kinda sounds weird..
I guess its the same as whites, but it just sounds strange to me..
I rather hear someone say blacks than hesitate uncomfortably and say "African-Americans" But that's just me.
Kevin
06-17-2008, 04:34 PM
I rather hear someone say blacks than hesitate uncomfortably and say "African-Americans" But that's just me.
Yea, i guess. But it just sounds awkward to me... No idea why.
sailor
06-17-2008, 04:41 PM
Yea, i guess. But it just sounds awkward to me... No idea why.
sometimes things don't correlate perfectly. call a guy "man" and it's no problem, but ladies tend to get irritated if you call them "woman". my douchey cousin does that all the time and it's amazing how it gets on the nerves of the woman he's addressing. should be an equal term, but it doesn't work out that way. so goes life.
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 04:50 PM
What are you voting for? Death or more Death?
Am I acting black enough for you? You never gave me those notes.
I'm trying not to go too negative anymore on the board, but you aren't that smart are you?
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 04:52 PM
I'm trying not to go too negative anymore on the board, but you aren't that smart are you?
I'm not smart-yet you had to sign off and then sign back on 1 hour later to come back at me with that weak response. I know it's best you could come up with. good effort. really, you did good!
9mileskid
06-17-2008, 04:54 PM
i was going to start a thread about race but since bowel has started so many racist threads i'll post my thought here.
has anyone noticed that a quater (exageration)of the mid west is under water and no one is complaining.the people of the affected areas are coming together,black and white,filling sand bags and helping each other out.noone is robbing,raping and looting while the disaster plays out.even the people who are upset with not being able to return to their homes are not screaming for the gov't to come save them.the liberal politicans who baby"these people"have done it for so long they expect the gov't to bail them out everytime and take no responsibility for their actions.the racism in new orleans on the black side was so out of line,if they had headed the warnings and got up off their assess and done something for them selves and not waited for someone to do it for them they would have been fine.
just wanted to point this out
i vote for anthony cumia
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm not smart-yet you had to sign off and then sign back on 1 hour later to come back at me with that weak response.
I went for a bike ride.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 04:56 PM
I went for a bike ride.
sure ya did, kid.
Friday
06-17-2008, 05:03 PM
based on MY OWN EXPERIENCES.... white people.
and I was raised in a white family.
but growing up as a Mexican child in an all white neighborhood and being called nigger, spic, chocolate, dirty when you are not even in the 3rd grade will leave quite a mark. besides... I spend some time on Wackbag... and while there are some good people there, they are about as racist as they come! :tongue:
mikeyboy
06-17-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm trying not to go too negative anymore on the board, but you aren't that smart are you?
:nono:
I gotta go with the blacks .... Earl is one racist motherfucker.
In fact, Earl Douglas is a black supremacist who believes that Africans are the greatest people and either invented or was the catalyst for the invention of everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy
In this world that you live in that Black Earl is a "racist" by your terms because of what he says on the radio...then what the fuck are ESD & Pitz? How many times have they spewed explicitly racist rhetoric towards Earl?
We get the fact that Black Earl is being "Black Earl" and ESD & Pitz are also being the stereotype. Yet you don't get it.
So the answer to your thread, by my experience the board character "Bowel" is the most racist individual I have encountered today by their actions.
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 05:05 PM
sure ya did, kid.
I'm logging off now to watch the game. I'm sure you'll reply in dull fashion while I'm away. In the interim, I'll be sure to come up with a doozie to rebuttal, using as many one-syllable words as I can.:bye:
FACE
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 05:06 PM
:nono:
no worries, mikey. I'm giving teebone an
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1803807/2/istockphoto_1803807_gold_star_2.jpg
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 05:06 PM
:nono:
I'm logging off.
Sorry, Mikeyboy.
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 05:07 PM
I've seen your picture, Pixie. It may be time to find your way to the bike yourself.
I'm logging off now to watch the game. I'm sure you'll reply in dull fashion while I'm away. In the interim, I'll be sure to come up with a doozie to rebuttal, using as many one-syllable words as I can.:bye:
FACE
ohh yea.... I'm fat! I weight 118, dumb ass. Sign off as quick as you can and lurk like the weak minded simpleton you are. One minute after you post. Fucking pathetic.
smiler grogan
06-17-2008, 05:22 PM
Growing up surrounded by my fellows whiteys in P.A. i heard plenty of racism. Living in NYC for over a decade i 've had an arab curse out an ex of mine who was jewish, guys from the islands put down black guys from NYC, a subcontractor who is black say very racist shit about whitey, and of course white guys attacking blacks. Last but not least a middle aged radio personality who fears all but aryans although he is far from aryan himself.
A very close friend of mine who is black and grew up in Queens tells me about the racism in the black community along with animosity and jealousy of anyone who tries to get out of the hood.
To sum up, the racism I hear comes from all races. Blacks are the common target
Jews get a fair share of comments but the fear isn't there just resentment.
Even where I grew up the blatant racism seems to be unacceptable but there is always the behind closed doors racist.
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 05:40 PM
ohh yea.... I'm fat! I weight 118, dumb ass. Sign off as quick as you can and lurk like the weak minded simpleton you are. One minute after you post. Fucking pathetic.
1st quarter is over....saw your post.
Not bad, Pixie.
Its too easy to rile you up.
Let's quit playing all these games.
What color underwear do you have on?
Coach
06-17-2008, 05:46 PM
Native Americans...you ever been to North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Washington state, or Montana? I got mugged twice in Washington State and North Dakota on tribal land rest stops, denied gas in rest stops in South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming run by natives, because my eyes were "A Soulless Blue".
IamPixie
06-17-2008, 05:47 PM
1st quarter is over....saw your post.
Not bad, Pixie.
Its too easy to rile you up.
Let's quit playing all these games.
What color underwear do you have on?
nvm
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 05:50 PM
Native Americans...you ever been to North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Washington state, or Montana? I got mugged twice in Washington State and North Dakota on tribal land rest stops, denied gas in rest stops in South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming run by natives, because my eyes were "A Soulless Blue".
I'm not justifying any of that, but how is that MORE racist than what's been done to them and put them in the position to say things like that or have that perspective? How is an oppressed group the more racist ones when they are responding to oppression?
Friday
06-17-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm not justifying any of that, but how is that MORE racist than what's been done to them and put them in the position to say things like that or have that perspective? How is an oppressed group the more racist ones when they are responding to oppression?
but this poll is 'based on your OWN EXPERIENCES'.....
just sayin....
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 05:56 PM
but this poll is 'based on your OWN EXPERIENCES'.....
just sayin....
But it's not like that response occured in a vacuum or the circumstances that lead to it never happened.
Friday
06-17-2008, 05:59 PM
But it's not like that response occired in a vacuum or the circumstances that lead to it never happened.
Nothing happens in a vacuum....
but that post was based on that particular person's Own Experiences. Which have nothing to do with the history of the people involved. Just what happened to them. That was the initial question.
Are you still upset because your own polls were so horribly unsuccessful last night? :bye:
Coach
06-17-2008, 06:07 PM
but this poll is 'based on your OWN EXPERIENCES'.....
just sayin....
What she said.
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:08 PM
Nothing happens in a vacuum....
but that post was based on that particular person's Own Experiences. Which have nothing to do with the history of the people involved. Just what happened to them. That was the initial question.
I don't see how they can't have anything to do without the circumstances as to why someone would be in that position in the first place. And yes, while I think much of that is racism, I think it is a totally different type of "racism" when it's coming from an oppressed group towards a symbolic oppressor. That doesn't make it "right," but it is clearly different than an oppressor group being racist towards the oppressed. A white guy hating Native Americans is clearly different than the history of why Native Americans would hate a white guy. That doesn't excuse what happened to Coach, but I don't see how that is possibly "more racist" than an oppressor group's racism.
smiler grogan
06-17-2008, 06:11 PM
I'm not justifying any of that, but how is that MORE racist than what's been done to them and put them in the position to say things like that or have that perspective? How is an oppressed group the more racist ones when they are responding to oppression?
In his specific situation he was the one denied a service because of his devilish eye color. So in this microworld he was the minority being discriminated against. The history of the native Americans isn't Coach's fault unless he's the worlds oldest injun hunter.
Sinestro
06-17-2008, 06:12 PM
This poll is racists towards the North Asians. They're not even listed.
ChrisBrown
06-17-2008, 06:13 PM
Native Americans...you ever been to North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Washington state, or Montana? I got mugged twice in Washington State and North Dakota on tribal land rest stops, denied gas in rest stops in South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming run by natives, because my eyes were "A Soulless Blue".
I feel bad for you getting mugged and I completely understand how it would make you less than a fan of Native Americans. I ran into tons of prejudice and at one point got stabbed when I lived in Taiwan. It was tempting to say, 'fuck them, this island is a shithole'. Rotten experiences can make you seriously dislike a group of people. However, I think being a decent human being means getting beyond it and not just saying this whole group of people suck. A lot of negative opinions in these two threads are based on just a couple of bad experiences. It's easy to say that you heard a few black guys say they hate white people or you don't get gas in Wyoming because of your blue eyes and then draw inaccurate conclusions about all black or Native American people.
smiler grogan
06-17-2008, 06:14 PM
I don't see how they can't have anything to do without the circumstances as to why someone would be in that position in the first place. And yes, while I think much of that is racism, I think it is a totally different type of "racism" when it's coming from an oppressed group towards a symbolic oppressor. That doesn't make it "right," but it is clearly different than an oppressor group being racist towards the oppressed. A white guy hating Native Americans is clearly different than the history of why Native Americans would hate a white guy. That doesn't excuse what happened to Coach, but I don't see how that is possibly "more racist" than an oppressor group's racism.
"More racist" isn't the issue here. Coach was discriminated against by Native Americans
so he posted in this thread.
Friday
06-17-2008, 06:14 PM
I don't see how they can't have anything to do without the circumstances as to why someone would be in that position in the first place. And yes, while I think much of that is racism, I think it is a totally different type of "racism" when it's coming from an oppressed group towards a symbolic oppressor. That doesn't make it "right," but it is clearly different than an oppressor group being racist towards the oppressed. A white guy hating Native Americans is clearly different than the history of why Native Americans would hate a white guy. That doesn't excuse what happened to Coach, but I don't see how that is possibly "more racist" than an oppressor group's racism.
you need to stop going to school and live in the real world for awhile, Mr Twisty. :bye:
the above was said with love...
and in an ideal world, you are completely right.
but the poll asked for specific, isolated situations. and that is all. you can't expect to see completely fair or socially responsible results from such a poll...
Friday
06-17-2008, 06:17 PM
I feel bad for you getting mugged and I completely understand how it would make you less than a fan of Native Americans. I ran into tons of prejudice and at one point got stabbed when I lived in Taiwan. It was tempting to say, 'fuck them, this island is a shithole'. Rotten experiences can make you seriously dislike a group of people. However, I think being a decent human being means getting beyond it and not just saying this whole group of people suck. A lot of negative opinions in these two threads are based on just a couple of bad experiences. It's easy to say that you heard a few black guys say they hate white people or you don't get gas in Wyoming because of your blue eyes and then draw inaccurate conclusions about all black or Native American people.
but... but.....
he didn't say that he hated the entire lot of Native Americans.
did he?
I don't hate all white people, nor do I hold them accountable for the abuse and discrimination I have received from a select bunch of them.
as a matter of fact... I kind of dig white folks. :)
TeeBone
06-17-2008, 06:22 PM
nvm
OK, Pixie.
...sorry about that......I'm done.
ChrisBrown
06-17-2008, 06:23 PM
but... but.....
he didn't say that he hated the entire lot of Native Americans.
did he?
I don't hate all white people, nor do I hold them accountable for the abuse and discrimination I have received from a select bunch of them.
as a matter of fact... I kind of dig white folks. :)
good point, he didn't say anything about hating them...how did Native Americans come up in the first place? Was the question whether they should get reparations? these two threads are getting confusing.
I'm happy that you like us white people; a few of us are a pain in the ass but for the most part, we are alright :smile:
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:27 PM
you need to stop going to school and live in the real world for awhile, Mr Twisty. :bye:
the above was said with love...
and in an ideal world, you are completely right.
but the poll asked for specific, isolated situations. and that is all. you can't expect to see completely fair or socially responsible results from such a poll...
I can safely say I've seen more of this world than almost anyone on this board.
Sorry, I don't like the implication, with love or not, that my perspective is sheltered.
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:30 PM
but... but.....
he didn't say that he hated the entire lot of Native Americans.
did he?
And I never said he hated all Native Americans. I didn't say he hated ANY Native Americans.
I don't hate all white people, nor do I hold them accountable for the abuse and discrimination I have received from a select bunch of them.
Nor did I excuse blanket generalizations like Coach encountered. I just posed a discussion as to whether or not racism directed from an oppressed group can possibly be "more racist" than racism directed from an oppressor group.
mikeyboy
06-17-2008, 06:31 PM
I hope nobody hates fake Puerto Ricans.
Friday
06-17-2008, 06:32 PM
And I never said he hated all Native Americans.
was I quoting your post when I typed that? pay attention, wackadoo!! :tongue:
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:34 PM
was I quoting your post when I typed that? pay attention, wackadoo!! :tongue:
Sorry. I saw a huge block of text and assumed it was my ramblings.
DarkHippie
06-17-2008, 06:41 PM
I can safely say I've seen more of this world than almost anyone on this board.
Does it count though when you are a kid? Children grow up with difference perspectives on what they see. For example, I grew up in a housing project and didnt realize it was a bad neighborhood until college when I mentioned where I was from and everyone winced.
DarkHippie
06-17-2008, 06:41 PM
I hope nobody hates fake Puerto Ricans.
Speaking of, why do Puerto Ricans and Domincans hate each other so much?
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:43 PM
Does it count though when you are a kid? Children grow up with difference perspectives on what they see. For example, I grew up in a housing project and didnt realize it was a bad neighborhood until college when I mentioned where I was from and everyone winced.
Or it allowed you to see that world clearly, and it gives you a unique perspective when you compare it to others.
sailor
06-17-2008, 06:43 PM
I just posed a discussion as to whether or not racism directed from an oppressed group can possibly be "more racist" than racism directed from an oppressor group.
so, let us say there are two hypothetical groups a and b. both hate each other and want to oppress the other. group a wins and does oppress b. why are they automatically more racist simply because they were victorious?
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 06:50 PM
so, let us say there are two hypothetical groups a and b. both hate each other and want to oppress the other. group a wins and does oppress b. why are they automatically more racist simply because they were victorious?
The "want to oppress each other" doesn't seem too applicable here. Nor does it really hold water throughout much of history. Most nations or groups that do or choose to "oppress" have the means to do so and to keep themselves from being truly oppressed. Oppressed groups typically don't seek such lare scale oppression, nor do they have the means to do so. Your hypothetical is referring to groups presumably on an even footing.
Coach
06-17-2008, 06:52 PM
In his specific situation he was the one denied a service because of his devilish eye color. So in this microworld he was the minority being discriminated against. The history of the native Americans isn't Coach's fault unless he's the worlds oldest injun hunter.
I don't see how they can't have anything to do without the circumstances as to why someone would be in that position in the first place. And yes, while I think much of that is racism, I think it is a totally different type of "racism" when it's coming from an oppressed group towards a symbolic oppressor. That doesn't make it "right," but it is clearly different than an oppressor group being racist towards the oppressed. A white guy hating Native Americans is clearly different than the history of why Native Americans would hate a white guy. That doesn't excuse what happened to Coach, but I don't see how that is possibly "more racist" than an oppressor group's racism.
I feel bad for you getting mugged and I completely understand how it would make you less than a fan of Native Americans. I ran into tons of prejudice and at one point got stabbed when I lived in Taiwan. It was tempting to say, 'fuck them, this island is a shithole'. Rotten experiences can make you seriously dislike a group of people. However, I think being a decent human being means getting beyond it and not just saying this whole group of people suck. A lot of negative opinions in these two threads are based on just a couple of bad experiences. It's easy to say that you heard a few black guys say they hate white people or you don't get gas in Wyoming because of your blue eyes and then draw inaccurate conclusions about all black or Native American people.
but... but.....
he didn't say that he hated the entire lot of Native Americans.
did he?
I don't hate all white people, nor do I hold them accountable for the abuse and discrimination I have received from a select bunch of them.
as a matter of fact... I kind of dig white folks. :)
I don't hate Native Americans, I have the utmost respect for them, and have studied their cultures since I was a kid..All I said was that in MY experience, they were more racist. With provocation? Yes.
ChrisBrown
06-17-2008, 06:54 PM
so, let us say there are two hypothetical groups a and b. both hate each other and want to oppress the other. group a wins and does oppress b. why are they automatically more racist simply because they were victorious?
the victorious group's would have more power and could be more harmful to the oppressed group. b group people could have their prejudices toward a group members but they couldn't act on those prejudices as effectively. I always thought that 'racism = power + prejudice' was too simplistic but there is a power dynamic that you can't ignore. The prejudice of the oppressed is less likely to result in action that can hurt the oppressor (short of violence).
smiler grogan
06-17-2008, 07:02 PM
TThe one thing I learned tonite is that Coach hates ALL Native Americans.
Coach
06-17-2008, 07:05 PM
TThe one thing I learned tonite is that Coach hates ALL Native Americans.
Wait.... whaaaa????:wallbash::wallbash:
Friday
06-17-2008, 07:07 PM
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DarkHippie
06-17-2008, 07:09 PM
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jonyrotn
06-17-2008, 07:19 PM
This thread sucks..
It's not productive, funny or amusing in any way..
You're all wasting your time debating stupid shit, that you'll never agree on..
And quite frankly, you ALL sound like morons..
And to top it off, not one of you seem even care what color Pixie's panties are!
For shame, you fucking cave dwelling mongrels, every single one of you!:nono:
Today, I wish I didn't know you..
Dougie Brootal
06-17-2008, 07:21 PM
i chose africans cuz 1 time was watching sopranos when aj and his friends attacked this african dude and he was yelling about how he is ''not a nigger'' (no i wont block it out with ***'s, cuz that is what he said) and italian-american wasnt a choice.
DarkHippie
06-17-2008, 07:24 PM
This thread sucks..
It's not productive, funny or amusing in any way..
You're all wasting your time debating stupid shit, that you'll never agree on..
And quite frankly, you ALL sound like morons..
And to top it off, not one of you seem even care what color Pixie's panties are!
For shame, you fucking cave dwelling mongrels, every single one of you!:nono:
Today, I wish I didn't know you..
Honestly, I dont wanna know what color her panties are. I feel that demeans her as a person, and I hope that she actually goes commando.
I'm a horrible person
underdog
06-17-2008, 09:12 PM
What ethnic group do those orange people belong to? They threw stuff at me because I wasn't orange.
Also, Angry Pixie rules.
Friday
06-17-2008, 09:14 PM
This thread sucks..
It's not productive, funny or amusing in any way..
You're all wasting your time debating stupid shit, that you'll never agree on..
And quite frankly, you ALL sound like morons..
And to top it off, not one of you seem even care what color Pixie's panties are!
For shame, you fucking cave dwelling mongrels, every single one of you!:nono:
Today, I wish I didn't know you..
not so sure i like you anymore
Kevin
06-17-2008, 09:20 PM
What ethnic group do those orange people belong to? They threw stuff at me because I wasn't orange.
Also, Angry Pixie rules.
Irish??
sailor
06-17-2008, 09:23 PM
The "want to oppress each other" doesn't seem too applicable here. Nor does it really hold water throughout much of history. Most nations or groups that do or choose to "oppress" have the means to do so and to keep themselves from being truly oppressed. Oppressed groups typically don't seek such lare scale oppression, nor do they have the means to do so. Your hypothetical is referring to groups presumably on an even footing.
yes, it is groups on an even footing. doesn't matter if it holds water or not, i'm just looking at your view that the oppressed is always less racist, by definition.
TheMojoPin
06-17-2008, 09:35 PM
yes, it is groups on an even footing. doesn't matter if it holds water or not, i'm just looking at your view that the oppressed is always less racist, by definition.
I don't know if that would aways be the case, but in most of the ones I can think of off the top of my head, yeah. The oppressed's racism stems from the anger and frustration and fear and whatever other negative emotion you can think of that comes from being oppressed. The oppressor's racism is based on...what, holding all the cards? Having it TOO good? Pissed that the oppressed aren't oppressed enough?
This isn't excusing racism of any kind, but attempting to look at it somewhat objecitvely, it's pretty clear racism from the oppressed is "lesser" in terms of that coming from the oppressors. One is based out of a history being treated shittily and the other seems to stem from a sense of superiority.
Sue_Bender
06-17-2008, 09:49 PM
White people are far more tolerant than I'm comfortable with.
Black Earl isn't racist. He's got one gimmick to work. The rest (lackluster production, no conversation skills, asexuality) are out of his control.
jonyrotn
06-17-2008, 10:15 PM
not so sure i like you anymore
You used to like me?
Wow, I must've been doing something right..
What was it?
sailor
06-18-2008, 03:41 AM
I don't know if that would aways be the case, but in most of the ones I can think of off the top of my head, yeah. The oppressed's racism stems from the anger and frustration and fear and whatever other negative emotion you can think of that comes from being oppressed. The oppressor's racism is based on...what, holding all the cards? Having it TOO good? Pissed that the oppressed aren't oppressed enough?
This isn't excusing racism of any kind, but attempting to look at it somewhat objecitvely, it's pretty clear racism from the oppressed is "lesser" in terms of that coming from the oppressors. One is based out of a history being treated shittily and the other seems to stem from a sense of superiority.
ok, but my point was in my hypothetical they start with the same racism. i don't think it's fair that at the moment one gains sway over the other the oppressor is seen to magically have more racism.
TheMojoPin
06-18-2008, 09:51 AM
ok, but my point was in my hypothetical they start with the same racism. i don't think it's fair that at the moment one gains sway over the other the oppressor is seen to magically have more racism.
Which I agree with, but it's not a very realistic hypothetical. It's incredibly rare where an oppressed group takes power and the former oppressors are still around to be oppressed themselves, and even when that happens, it's typically self-contained within the same racial group.
Fezticle98
06-18-2008, 11:13 AM
Asians. No need to narrow it down directionally.
Havenostaples
06-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Based on my experience every racial group is about equally racist.
I totally agree with IamPixie's statement.
Good day.
cougarjake13
06-19-2008, 12:29 PM
blacks
although the asians are a close second
Snoogans
06-19-2008, 12:30 PM
I cant vote because it has to be broken down more. You cant just put caucasions cause that mixes too much. Italians, southern white people and a good bit of NE irish people are incredibly racist and make up for alot of non rasict white people
ibanez23
06-19-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm portuguese, so I dont understand where I fit in on this poll.I guess I'll just hate everyone.:thumbup:
Blood Mountain
06-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Well from my experience in this world i wouldn't be able to say one "race" is more racist. I've never dealt with a whole "race" that was racist. I've been hated on by certain individuals because they assumed how i acted because of skin color. I won't equate that to an entire group of people. I've had friends of many different back rounds and they've all treated me as i treated them. I try not to take individual experiences and pawn them off on large segments of society.
Swanny
06-19-2008, 06:01 PM
The Jews, Satan's Agents of evil!
DolaMight
06-19-2008, 06:17 PM
Asians. No need to narrow it down directionally.
What is the race most likely to use a rooster as an alarm clock?
FUNKMAN
06-19-2008, 06:18 PM
What is the race most likely to use a rooster as an alarm clock?
rednecks
Devo37
06-19-2008, 06:29 PM
not so much racist, but i'd throw the Hasidic Jews into the 'most inconsiderate' category. from my experience, they're extremely rude. never hold a door open for anyone, never helpful or polite if you're not one of them, discourteous/dangerous drivers.
Chigworthy
06-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Picts.
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