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K.C.
07-12-2008, 11:38 AM
First, let me say this is pretty ridiculous, and I seriously doubt anything will come of it.


New Hampshire lawsuit seeks to have McCain declared an unconstitutional candidate based on not being a natural born citizen. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)


This is actually an old story, and came up earlier this year during the primaries, and then died, but is now back with this lawsuit.

As the story goes:
-McCain was born in the Canal Zone in Panama. Both his parents are American.
-McCain was born in 1936. A law was passed in 1937 granting citizenship and all rights that go with it to children born to an American parent in the Canal Zone.
-McCain was granted retroactive citizenship, but the argument is that since he was born in 1936, before citizenship was bestowed upon people born there, he is not a 'natural' born citizen (the Congressional text of qualification for President), and only became a citizen by order of Congress.

WampusCrandle
07-12-2008, 11:44 AM
frankly, that is a stupid rule. he is an American citizen - New Hampshire needs to shut the fuck up. in the end, Obama will probably win - so stop moanin' about it, you stupid hippie state.

lleeder
07-12-2008, 11:47 AM
If he was born in the Anal Zone he shouldn't be president.

sailor
07-12-2008, 11:47 AM
and obama's a kenyan citizen (http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=731). all this stuff is silly.

cougarjake13
07-12-2008, 01:58 PM
so fuck it then

just let ahnold run in 2012

NewYorkDragons80
07-12-2008, 02:02 PM
I think Congress already approved McCain's candidacy to head off this sort of thing. The Canal was basically American soil anyway.

K.C.
07-12-2008, 03:16 PM
I think Congress already approved McCain's candidacy to head off this sort of thing. The Canal was basically American soil anyway.

They passed a non-binding resolution, so it's essentially meaningless.

The point of the lawsuit I believe is to get the candidacy declared unconstitutional. It's got no shot, but it's kind of funny that someone's in court arguing that John McCain, of all people, isn't a real citizen.

Kevin
07-12-2008, 03:18 PM
They passed a non-binding resolution, so it's essentially meaningless.

The point of the lawsuit I believe is to get the candidacy declared unconstitutional. It's got no shot, but it's kind of funny that someone's in court arguing that John McCain, of all people, isn't a real citizen.

Is he a War hero or.. I'm not really sure on this, a POW?

He never brings that up..

furie
07-12-2008, 05:33 PM
in the end, Obama will probably win -

Really? (http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)

DolaMight
07-12-2008, 05:46 PM
If he was born in the Anal Zone he shouldn't be president.

or if he was birthed from the Anal Canal.

WRESTLINGFAN
07-13-2008, 12:37 PM
Much ado about nothing. Goldwater was born in 1909 when Arizona was still a territory of the United States . AZ Became a state in 1912.

patsopinion
07-13-2008, 12:44 PM
Is he a War hero or.. I'm not really sure on this, a POW?

He never brings that up..

if crashing ur plane 2 seconds after take off makes you a war hero then yea

other wise...

See Manchurian candidate(the original book)(not that denzel movie/or even the Sinatra one)

NewYorkDragons80
07-13-2008, 01:15 PM
It takes a world-class asshole to question the citizenship of a guy born to 2 American citizens at an American military base in an American protectorate who wouldn't be there if they weren't fighting for America.

NewYorkDragons80
07-13-2008, 01:16 PM
if crashing ur plane 2 seconds after take off makes you a war hero then yea
As I recall, the surface to air missile played its part as well.

Tenbatsuzen
07-13-2008, 01:23 PM
It takes a world-class asshole to question the citizenship of a guy born to 2 American citizens at an American military base in an American protectorate who wouldn't be there if they weren't fighting for America.

I love how the article says Chin is a registered Democrat but his affiliation has nothing to do with it. Right.

Kevin
07-13-2008, 01:25 PM
As I recall, the surface to air missile played its part as well.

Minor technicality missed there..

epo
07-13-2008, 01:53 PM
Blah. I can question his policy stances/judgments, but not his citizenship.

angrymissy
07-13-2008, 02:19 PM
These are like the two major things right vs. left are arguing about on the policitcal boards I frequent

OMG MCCAIN ISN'T A CITIZEN
OMG OBAMA ISN'T HE WAS SECRETLY BORN IN KENYA I SWEARZ, HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS TEH FAKEZ

OMG OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST (serious)

Like NO ONE ELSE IN THE GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT BY NOW IF EITHER OF THEM WEREN'T ELIGIBLE

ahhdurr
07-13-2008, 03:00 PM
Before you know it there'll be Central Americans everywhere in this country. I can't trust a McCain generated Panamanian mania in the US.

HBox
07-13-2008, 03:06 PM
Does this make him a double Manchurian Candidate?