Mom didn't report little girl missing for 5 weeks

[Freitag]

<a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5396286&page=1">Casey's Daughter, Caylee is missing</a>

This story infuriates me. The mother is a pure sociopath or a psychopath, I'm not sure which, but she is showing no remorse, no reaction, no nothing to the fact that her daughter is missing. The only reason she got found out is because her own mother called her out on it.

I know there's nothing special about this case as compared to other parental neglect/killings that seem to happen every other week in this country, but still...

[Furtherman]

Neighbors Say Mother Borrowed Shovel Last Month

This won't end well.

[Freitag]

This won't end well.

These kind of cases rarely do, if ever.

[TheMojoPin]

<a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5396286&page=1">Casey's Daughter, Caylee is missing</a>

This story infuriates me. The mother is a pure sociopath or a psychopath, I'm not sure which, but she is showing no remorse, no reaction, no nothing to the fact that her daughter is missing. The only reason she got found out is because her own mother called her out on it.

Are you inconsolable?

[Epschtein]

im trying to hold out hope that she sold the girl and she may still be found. long shot i know.

the grandmother allegedly made the following blog post on july 3rd, makes some her more recent comments very fishy.

"She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don't know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother's love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?"

they are preparing for a news conference or statremnt right now at this link.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?liveSiteStream_::_1_::_undefined&Live_Site_Stream&Live%2520Stream&acc&Live%2520Stream&-1&News&180&&&new

[Epschtein]

oh and everything she has said since she was found and questioned (now held) has been proven to be a lie, and about half a dozen people that know her have called police to say she is a habitual liar/thief.

*edit* the only affidavit i know of filed in the case;

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

[EliSnow]

<a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5396286&page=1">Casey's Daughter, Caylee is missing</a>

This story infuriates me. The mother is a pure sociopath or a psychopath, I'm not sure which, but she is showing no remorse, no reaction, no nothing to the fact that her daughter is missing. The only reason she got found out is because her own mother called her out on it.

I know there's nothing special about this case as compared to other parental neglect/killings that seem to happen every other week in this country, but still...

I was reading about this yesterday, and given the number of lies she told about what was happening, her daughter isn't "missing." The girl is either dead (most likely) or the mother gave or sold her daughter to someone.

[Freitag]

The weirdest thing is, usually when a mother kills an older child, they fit into a certain physical description.. dishevled, unkempt, you know, something like that. (Not withstanding the women who dump their babies right after birth)

When you look like Natalie Imbruglia and you do this, something is majorly wrong upstairs. Even moreso than the Susan Smiths and Andrea Yates of the world.

[Epschtein]

from a live shot just now - they showed someone smelling the end of one of the probes (actually two guys smelled it) they use to poke into the ground to see if it hits anything "solid", then a female putting on latex gloves and going back to digging in that spot.

could be nothing, could be bad news...

[Freitag]

Are you inconsolable?

More like that I'm all out of faith, but this is how I feel.

I'm cold and I am shamed... Lying naked on the floor.

[Freitag]

I was reading about this yesterday, and given the number of lies she told about what was happening, her daughter isn't "missing." The girl is either dead (most likely) or the mother gave or sold her daughter to someone.

That's why when the cop said "There's nothing to indicate that Caylee isn't alive" REALLY annoyed me. There's EVERYTHING that indicates that she's probably dead.

[Thebazile78]

I was reading about this yesterday, and given the number of lies she told about what was happening, her daughter isn't "missing." The girl is either dead (most likely) or the mother gave or sold her daughter to someone.

That's what I've been saying.

Kid's dead.

For the record, I said the same thing about Madeline McCann (http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann) as soon as her photo was posted on CNN.

[HBox]

This won't end well.

Ahhh, she just wanted to plant a "Welcome Home" garden for her little girl.

[jauble]

Ahhh, she just wanted to plant a "Welcome Home" garden for her little girl.

hiiiyo (http://www.instantrimshot.com/)

[Freitag]

That's what I've been saying.

Kid's dead.

For the record, I said the same thing about Madeline McCann (http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann) as soon as her photo was posted on CNN.

I have no doubt the McCann kid is dead too, but I'm still not sure if the parents did it or not.

[topless_mike]

More like that I'm all out of faith, but this is how I feel.

I'm cold and I am shamed... Lying naked on the floor.

:thumbdown:

[topless_mike]

you read stories like this and makes you feel so much better as a parent.

[ChrisTheCop]

That's why when the cop said "There's nothing to indicate that Caylee isn't alive" REALLY annoyed me. There's EVERYTHING that indicates that she's probably dead.

I see youve found a place to direct your anger.
Good for you!! :dry:

[Thebazile78]

I see youve found a place to direct your anger.
Good for you!! :dry:

It's constructive, for once.

And it's far away, so he can't throttle her.

I'm so proud!

[Freitag]

I see youve found a place to direct your anger.
Good for you!! :dry:

Wow, you take criticism of the police well. First, I didn't say I was angry, I said I was annoyed. The police had a person of interest/suspect in the mother, yet gave multiple indications that the girl was still alive. Why do that?

Instead of saying that there was "no indication" that the girl wasn't alive, he should have rephrased as the police are exploring "every option" or "possibility" into what happened. It's a lot softer than "we think she's dead", and a lot more truthful than "there's no indication that she's dead".

[ChrisTheCop]

Wow, you take criticism of the police well. First, I didn't say I was angry, I said I was annoyed. The police had a person of interest/suspect in the mother, yet gave multiple indications that the girl was still alive. Why do that?

Instead of saying that there was "no indication" that the girl wasn't alive, he should have rephrased as the police are exploring "every option" or "possibility" into what happened. It's a lot softer than "we think she's dead", and a lot more truthful than "there's no indication that she's dead".

You stick up for your industry, I stick up for mine.
There's a WHOLE lot better quotes to pick on in that first story than a cop who maybe feels it isnt his place to call the case closed. COULD he had said it another way? Yes. SHOULD he have? I dunno...and I'm surprised you think you do.

Trust me on this, cops this close to a case like this dont sleep at night, and the things they say to the media (and the public) sometimes have more meaning to the investigation than you or I could imagine. Perhaps theyre trying to trick the killer or abductor into relaxing. Or maybe he misspoke and is getting yelled at right now by his bosses. We dont know. But again, with this whole story to take in, and so many people closer to this woman saying stupid stuff, I thought it was funny that someone would jump on the old standby, the fuzz, to be annoyed with.

Anywho, it's a sad story; I hope it's resolved soon.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You stick up for your industry, I stick up for mine.
There's a WHOLE lot better quotes to pick on in that first story than a cop who maybe feels it isnt his place to call the case closed. COULD he had said it another way? Yes. SHOULD he have? I dunno...and I'm surprised you think you do.

Trust me on this, cops this close to a case like this dont sleep at night, and the things they say to the media (and the public) sometimes have more meaning to the investigation than you or I could imagine. Perhaps theyre trying to trick the killer or abductor into relaxing. Or maybe he misspoke and is getting yelled at right now by his bosses. We dont know. But again, with this whole story to take in, and so many people closer to this woman saying stupid stuff, I thought it was funny that someone would jump on the old standby, the fuzz, to be annoyed with.

Anywho, it's a sad story; I hope it's resolved soon.

Get over yourself. You are in a very dangerous job and you put your ass on the line more than myself and most everyone else on this board.

But that does not make you infallible to criticism of how your peers do their job. I defend the radio industry, but I also accept and give criticism when my peers fuck up. When Elvis and JV got fired, I was one of the few people calling them stupid for playing racist bits when the heat was on in the Imus mess.

I have no complained one iota about how the investigation has been handled. However, releasing public statements like that makes the the police look REALLY bad when the girl's body turns up and/or she's not found.

My commentary was more saying, why give false hope when anybody with half a brain in situations like this understands it's very unlikely that in a five-week time frame since the girl disappeared, she will be found alive. It makes THE POLICE LOOK BAD WHEN IT DOESN'T PAN OUT.

I didn't "blame the fuzz" over this. There's not much they CAN do, especially with her being nuts. But releasing a public statement that "there's no indication that she's not alive" is just a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

[ChrisTheCop]

Get over yourself. You are in a very dangerous job and you put your ass on the line more than myself and most everyone else on this board.

But that does not make you infallible to criticism of how your peers do their job. I defend the radio industry, but I also accept and give criticism when my peers fuck up. When Elvis and JV got fired, I was one of the few people calling them stupid for playing racist bits when the heat was on in the Imus mess.

I have no complained one iota about how the investigation has been handled. However, releasing public statements like that makes the the police look REALLY bad when the girl's body turns up and/or she's not found.

My commentary was more saying, why give false hope when anybody with half a brain in situations like this understands it's very unlikely that in a five-week time frame since the girl disappeared, she will be found alive. It makes THE POLICE LOOK BAD WHEN IT DOESN'T PAN OUT.

I didn't "blame the fuzz" over this. There's not much they CAN do, especially with her being nuts. But releasing a public statement that "there's no indication that she's not alive" is just a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

Well, I can see we're not gonna be able to just chat about this logically.
So, I'll ask that others read my statement and comprehend what I was attempting to say.

But I will add this; a police officer's job is not to save face,
It's to bring these situations to an end. Again, I have no idea if his statement was indeed a crafty way of meeting that end, or truly a fucked up utterance.

I'll also ask this, cause I really dont know... what IS the evidence that she's dead?

[barjockey]

Is it me or is this murderous bitch oddly hot?

[Friday]

i'm still trying to figure out how someone's looks (eg... looks like Natalie Imbruglia) have anything to do with the level of their mental illness.

in case anyone here has no experience with serious mental illness in their own or their family lives.... mental illness has no ugly-requirement.

http://www.wackbag.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[sailor]

The weirdest thing is, usually when a mother kills an older child, they fit into a certain physical description.. dishevled, unkempt, you know, something like that. (Not withstanding the women who dump their babies right after birth)

When you look like Natalie Imbruglia and you do this, something is majorly wrong upstairs. Even moreso than the Susan Smiths and Andrea Yates of the world.

wait, susan smith and andrea yates have something "wrong upstairs?" y'think?

[KnoxHarrington]

i'm still trying to figure out how someone's looks (eg... looks like Natalie Imbruglia) have anything to do with the level of their mental illness.

in case anyone here has no experience with serious mental illness in their own or their family lives.... mental illness has no ugly-requirement.

http://www.wackbag.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

These cases bring out the armchair forensic psychologists. Remember all the analysis of how fucked up the Ramsey family was, and what a nutjob the mother looked like, and how could she possibly dress her daughter up like that, blah blah blah.

Patsy and John Ramsey were finally cleared of that murder, but for more than 10 years, they were considered child murders by a vast majority of the population.

These cases are often far more complicated than the breathless, sensationalist coverage of them on the "news" would have you believe.

[Epschtein]

Patsy and John Ramsey were finally cleared of that murder, but for more than 10 years, they were considered child murders by a vast majority of the population.

i am very sympathetic towards the ramsey's, and am not at all convinced they are guilty... but the new evidence is a far cry from clearing them.

there is evidence to suggest jonbenet was killed by an intruder, there is also evidence to suggest it is unlikley there was any intruder. and there is also evidence to suggest she was killed by a family member.

nobody likes gray areas, but this case is all gray. and almost surely will never be solved.

[Epschtein]

These cases are often far more complicated than the breathless, sensationalist coverage of them on the "news" would have you believe.

i completely agree, and if you do your research and dig deeper i think you will find that the idea of the ramsey's being cleared is an exmaple of sensationalist coverage.

"ramsey's cleared omgwtf!" oh wait, even in the most favorable light this evidence doesnt clear them of any wrongdoing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i'm still trying to figure out how someone's looks (eg... looks like Natalie Imbruglia) have anything to do with the level of their mental illness.

in case anyone here has no experience with serious mental illness in their own or their family lives.... mental illness has no ugly-requirement.

http://www.wackbag.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

Your ability to make it about you never ceases to amaze even myself.

[Tenbatsuzen]

These cases bring out the armchair forensic psychologists.

Yes, the mother hasn't seen her 2 year old daughter for five weeks, she's lied constantly to the police, she's showed no emotion that he daughter is gone, and she's perfect fine in her mental capabilities. Especially since a psych consult was ordered for her. Yeah. I'm talking out of my ass. Sure.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is it me or is this murderous bitch oddly hot?

Not just you.

Apparently, she's got a great ass.

[Tenbatsuzen]

But I will add this; a police officer's job is not to save face,
It's to bring these situations to an end. Again, I have no idea if his statement was indeed a crafty way of meeting that end, or truly a fucked up utterance.

I'll also ask this, cause I really dont know... what IS the evidence that she's dead?

When you are a police officer whose job is to make public statements, you SHOULD know better than to make a statement like that.

The evidence that she's dead is purely statistical, along with the fact that Mom's not talking and when she is talking, she's lying.

There's not a lot of evidence that she's alive, either. When you have five weeks to get rid of a body, there is not a chance you're going to find her.

[sailor]

there is not a chance you're going to find her.

after my initial hope that they find the girl is alive, i really hope they find her body.

[Tenbatsuzen]

after my initial hope that they find the girl is alive, i really hope they find her body.

I should say there's not a GOOD chance you can find her - without the help of whoever killed her.

[~Katja~]

Is it me or is this murderous bitch oddly hot?

was just thinking that a beautiful face means so little...
she is a hot mom indeed, but one that should never have called herself mother

[~Katja~]

Not just you.

Apparently, she's got a great ass.

by that you mean the little girls father???

[ChrisTheCop]

When you are a police officer whose job is to make public statements, you SHOULD know better than to make a statement like that.

The evidence that she's dead is purely statistical, along with the fact that Mom's not talking and when she is talking, she's lying.

There's not a lot of evidence that she's alive, either. When you have five weeks to get rid of a body, there is not a chance you're going to find her.

So there's no actual evidence to either case...

I wonder why the cops wouldnt just publicly pick a side and hope theyre right?

Again, that cop's job was not to appease the Las Vegas odds-makers,
nor to publicly make assumptions based on articles he has read in the past.

Let this play out; but please stop saying that everyone who refuses to blindly agree with you needs to "get over" themselves.

[mikeyboy]

Your ability to make it about you never ceases to amaze even myself.

You're no slouch in that department yourself.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You're no slouch in that department yourself.

I know, but she's about 10x worse. And she's completely ignorant of it.

*wavey hand*

[TheMojoPin]

Tenbats is really smart when it comes to criminal cases because he gets all of his info from here. (http://www.mattyfridaysisthebulldogcakesofmillionhitcrime blogs.com)

[Caseyelan]

I am very pleased this thread was not titled "casey killed her baby"

[sailor]

Tenbats is really smart when it comes to criminal cases because he gets all of his info from here. (http://www.mattyfridaysisthebulldogcakesofmillionhitcrime blogs.com)

hey, that link didn't work.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I am very pleased this thread was not titled "casey killed her baby"

Incidentally, I thought very long and hard about calling the thread "Casey is a horrible mother and her baby is missing" but I thought better of it. Mainly because I've kind of grown out of shock posting and I didn't want to hurt your feelings.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Tenbats is really smart when it comes to criminal cases because he gets all of his info from here. (http://www.mattyfridaysisthebulldogcakesofmillionhitcrime blogs.com)

I wouldn't be insulted except for the fact you called me BDC. Unlike BDC, I can postulate my own thoughts and opinions.

[Caseyelan]

Incidentally, I thought very long and hard about calling the thread "Casey is a horrible mother and her baby is missing" but I thought better of it. Mainly because I've kind of grown out of shock posting and I didn't want to hurt your feelings.

My feelings only get hurt by dave matthews fans apparently.

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[Tenbatsuzen]

My feelings only get hurt by dave matthews fans apparently.

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

So Wackbag > DMB?

[SatCam]

I am very pleased this thread was not titled "casey killed her baby"

it's always about you isnt it -------right tenbats?

[Jujubees2]

Where is missing 2-year-old? Her mother may know (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25780516/)

[~Katja~]

hmm, I came to post the same link. I still think it is more than fishy and if she knows then there is no reason to hold back.

She has told too many lies

[Epschtein]

http://www.local6.com/video/16955319/index.html

live link to a bail hearing for the mother, nothing conclusive yet and its probably close to over, not sure if there will be an immediate/soon ruling.

bunch of new facts;

girl was last seen by the grandmother a week later than first reported - june 15th.

the girls rumored father says he heard the absolutely heard the girl in the background while talking to the mother on june 24th.

cop that says he knows the smell of human decomposition claims he definitely smelled it in the car, canine officer says his dog alerted to the smell of it to him. stain approximately the size of the child in the trunk , dirt and hair possibly matching the girl's in the trunk.

2 different dogs alerted to human decomposition in the backyard of the grandparents (where they then dug and found nothing).

[Epschtein]

500k bond with GPS monitoring and forfeiture of passport.

[Freitag]

but but but but but the police said there was no indication that the child wasn't alive!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Epschtein]

i didnt find the defense attorney to be particularly obnoxious or to offend the truth too much;

first the girl was missing since june 2nd, then it was june 9th, today it is june 15th but a report that someone clearly heard her on the phone on june 24th...

the mother is sketchy and a liar, but there is zero physical evidence of a crime, except for the possible smell of human decomposition.

dont get me wrong, i could absolutely see it turning that she killed her and that the body was in both the backyard and the car.

she did borrow a shovel which was out of chracter and for a questionable reason, and she did just abandon her car.

but the lawyer presented a pretty reasonable case for bond today, and i usually hate defense lawyers.

[TheMojoPin]

http://www.todmaffin.com/blog/uploads/exhausted.jpg

[epo]

There is only one person who can figure this out:

http://mercedesrules.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nancy-grace.jpg

[epo]

By the way, why are these "sensational" stories in the media about murders or kidnapping always about white people? Especially attractive white females.

Hmm.........

[angrymissy]

There is only one person who can figure this out:

http://mercedesrules.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nancy-grace.jpg

She's probably frothing at the mouth, waiting.

[sailor]

but but but but but the police said there was no indication that the child wasn't alive!!!!!!!!!!!!

take more pride in her death.

[Zorro]

She's probably frothing at the mouth, waiting.

I'd let my dog piss on her lawn

[scottinnj]

There is only one person who can figure this out:

http://mercedesrules.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nancy-grace.jpg

She's probably frothing at the mouth, waiting.

That's not froth, that's my....





Hush yo Mouth!

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5gIKvduNXg-1ecr-zxbiINwewtU8Q?size=m

BITCH KILLED HER

[~Katja~]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,389642,00.html

Cindy Anthony disputed the decomposition testimony Wednesday after her daughter's lawyer revealed the family had received a tip that a child matching Caylee's description had been seen at the Orlando International Airport boarding a flight to Atlanta.

This makes me angry, just because it is possible for any child to be taken on flights by strangers.

I had to get a notarized document stating that I was allowed to take my own son on a flight... when flying internationally the document was not even looked at until I went through customs IN GERMANY. When flying from Newark to Chicago once nobody even made me verify who the child is and that it in fact is mine.

Talk about airport security...

to get back to the topic though, if this child is alive and the mother knows, then there is nothing that excuses her from not telling where she is.

[Freitag]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,389642,00.html



This makes me angry, just because it is possible for any child to be taken on flights by strangers.

I had to get a notarized document stating that I was allowed to take my own son on a flight... when flying internationally the document was not even looked at until I went through customs IN GERMANY. When flying from Newark to Chicago once nobody even made me verify who the child is and that it in fact is mine.

Talk about airport security...

to get back to the topic though, if this child is alive and the mother knows, then there is nothing that excuses her from not telling where she is.


The grandparents' involvement in this is confusing the hell out of me. On one hand, all the behavior they are exhibiting RIGHT NOW is like they are covering something up. I don't believe this "tip" of a child getting on a flight to Atlanta for an instant. However, the grandmother is the one who blew the whistle on the daughter in the first place.

Why would the "tipster" call the family and not the police? Has the family turned over the tipster's contact info to the police? If not, why?

There seems to be a ridiculous amount of detail for a chance encounter of someone three weeks ago.

I think the situation is, the grandparents know that the daughter is dead, but they also know that there isn't a strong case without a body. The body is very well hidden, or gone Trenton Duckett-style. It's better for their daughter to go away on child neglect than homicide.

[ChrisTheCop]

Now dont go jumpin all over me Freibaby,
but the grandma's behavior MAY just be simple denial.
I saw an interview with her, and she just seems like she's grasping for any straws of hope,
and quite possibly, people are calling in false tips, as they often do even when its a police tipline. She says she and her daughter were best friends, even though apparently she didnt visit enough to have even run into her 'best friend'/babysitter in 3 years.

Another hint that she's in denial; as to the smell of decomposition, she asks others to put a slice of pizza in their trunk for several weeks and see what that smells like.

I dont think she's in cahoots, I just think she's in shock.

[Jujubees2]

Another hint that she's in denial; as to the smell of decomposition, she asks others to put a slice of pizza in their trunk for several weeks and see what that smells like.

I dont think she's in cahoots, I just think she's in shock.

Yeah, but what does it smell like when you leave shrimp/squid in you car for days?

http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71711

[Knowledged_one]

If the mother killed her

Cut her head off

[Freitag]

Now dont go jumpin all over me Freibaby,
but the grandma's behavior MAY just be simple denial.
I saw an interview with her, and she just seems like she's grasping for any straws of hope,
and quite possibly, people are calling in false tips, as they often do even when its a police tipline. She says she and her daughter were best friends, even though apparently she didnt visit enough to have even run into her 'best friend'/babysitter in 3 years.

Another hint that she's in denial; as to the smell of decomposition, she asks others to put a slice of pizza in their trunk for several weeks and see what that smells like.

I dont think she's in cahoots, I just think she's in shock.

I agree about false and kooky tipsters - that's why I asked if the tipster's information was turned over to the police. Apparently the grandmother has the name and phone number be cause she called them back.

I also agree that she's grasping at "straws of hope", but it just seems like a very strange behaviorial turnaround to go from the one who turned your daughter in to being her staunchest supporter.

And Chris, get the idea out of your head that I'm attacking you. I made an opinion about the police talking about her being alive, and you went crazy first. I'm willing to put this garbage down, but you gotta be open to debate.

[TheMojoPin]

You're somehow worse than Nancy Grace.

[ChrisTheCop]

I agree about false and kooky tipsters - that's why I asked if the tipster's information was turned over to the police. Apparently the grandmother has the name and phone number be cause she called them back.

I also agree that she's grasping at "straws of hope", but it just seems like a very strange behaviorial turnaround to go from the one who turned your daughter in to being her staunchest supporter.

And Chris, get the idea out of your head that I'm attacking you. I made an opinion about the police talking about her being alive, and you went crazy first. I'm willing to put this garbage down, but you gotta be open to debate.

I guess we can add to the debate who went crazy first. To me, it was a simple debate until I was told to get over myself. Thats when I realized you wanted to argue instead of debate.
And there's really not much to debate about; I think we agree on the basic point as to what happened to this child. I just pointed out that once again, people were more inclined to blame the police, rather than focus their attentions on the criminals (not just you, it happens alot on this board).

[undressa]

any new news on this?

[ahhdurr]

By the way, why are these "sensational" stories in the media about murders or kidnapping always about white people? Especially attractive white females.

Hmm.........


Sunburns make you nutty. Hot girls sunbathe more often.

[Freitag]

You're somehow worse than Nancy Grace.

Speaking of someone who needs to get over themselves...

What exactly is your problem with me in these true crime threads? I usually let you go your own way, but seriously - we're having a discussion of true crime and possible hypotheses of what happened and you have to snark.

If you have nothing to add of comedy or substance, then don't post and don't read the thread. Obviously the thread bothers you.

[ChrisTheCop]

any new news on this?

Not really, other than prosecutors have said the investigation seems to be turning into that of a homicide, and not so much a missing person.

While grandma says she continues to receive sightings tips from all over the country.

[Knowledged_one]

Speaking of someone who needs to get over themselves...

What exactly is your problem with me in these true crime threads? I usually let you go your own way, but seriously - we're having a discussion of true crime and possible hypotheses of what happened and you have to snark.

If you have nothing to add of comedy or substance, then don't post and don't read the thread. Obviously the thread bothers you.

Maybe you should go back and re-read your posts 30-33 and you might get some more insight

[TheMojoPin]

Speaking of someone who needs to get over themselves...

Never. That would be a waste of greatness.

What exactly is your problem with me in these true crime threads?

The same "problem" with you in every thread, silly.

I usually let you go your own way,

Thank you for your kind mercy, o benvolent one.

but seriously - we're having a discussion of true crime and possible hypotheses of what happened and you have to snark.

Yes. Snarksnarsnarksnarksnark.

If you have nothing to add of comedy or substance, then don't post and don't read the thread. Obviously the thread bothers you.

It's not the thread. And quit hurling bowling balls inside of that sugar glass mansion of yours.

[Epschtein]

make a point or go fuck your mother, enough childish snide bullshit.

stop queering up the thread and PM your little shots at each other like adults.

[TheMojoPin]

Epschtein for mod.

[grlNIN]

While grandma says she continues to receive sightings tips from all over the country.

WHy is the grandma receiving these "sightings" but the police aren't, or are they receiving them too?

Has anyone checked the grandmother's background?

[ChrisTheCop]

WHy is the grandma receiving these "sightings" but the police aren't, or are they receiving them too?

Has anyone checked the grandmother's background?

Grandma gives out her cell phone during most interviews she does, and on flyers, etc...
It is unclear as to whether she is sharing info directly with the police, other than via media.

I must ASSUME that there is/was some sort of police tipline as well, but I havent read anything as to what theyve received.

And, as it is standard protocol to check on all persons close to a missing/abducted or murdered child, I again must ASSUME that this has been done, but again, I have not read anything to confirm that.

I'm just an assuming ass.

[scottinnj]

I understand both arguments about the police's handling of this case.

I have to go with Chris the Cop however.

No offense, but the law enforcement have to work with whatever they have, and IMO, are doing the best they can.

[ChrisTheCop]

I understand both arguments about the police's handling of this case.

I have to go with Chris the Cop however.

No offense, but the law enforcement have to work with whatever they have, and IMO, are doing the best they can.


As a former occasional adversary of mine, I appreciate the backing Scott.

However, Matty's and my discussion was not so much in their handling of the case, but about something one cop said to the press early on. I believed that officer's saying theyre holding out hope when there's no evidence otherwise is a good thing, while Matty believed the police should just jump the gun and clairvoyantly report her obvious death, regardless of how that may affect the family and community.

He pointed out that the PD would look ridiculous by not doing so, when the girl ends up being dead. Because if they were to say she's dead, they wouldnt look the slightest bit silly when she turned up in Nevada. (no gramma, thats not a tip).

[Zorro]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71711

first post: I went fishing Saturday morning and when I got home, I forgot to take the shrimp/squid bag out of my car. It sat in the hot Florida sun all weekend and when I got in my car Monday morning, I almost vomited. Its been 4 days, and it still is rancid.

Anyone have a suggestion on how to get the smell out?

[Tenbatsuzen]

As a former occasional adversary of mine, I appreciate the backing Scott.

However, Matty's and my discussion was not so much in their handling of the case, but about something one cop said to the press early on. I believed that officer's saying theyre holding out hope when there's no evidence otherwise is a good thing, while Matty believed the police should just jump the gun and clairvoyantly report her obvious death, regardless of how that may affect the family and community.

He pointed out that the PD would look ridiculous by not doing so, when the girl ends up being dead. Because if they were to say she's dead, they wouldnt look the slightest bit silly when she turned up in Nevada. (no gramma, thats not a tip).

You didn't understand what I said at all then.

I said that the police should have said they are exploring "all possibilities" when it comes to the case, not outright say that she's dead.

I said I think she's dead. I think the police PR was handled poorly because even though it's assumed she's dead, the police saying that there's no reason to think she's not alive is very very stupid.

I didn't say the police should have said she was dead. I said the police should have left it open-ended so if there's a happy or sad resolution, they don't look bad.

I didn't say the police should be clairvoyant at all. So stop putting words in my mouth.

[ChrisTheCop]

You didn't understand what I said at all then.

I said that the police should have said they are exploring "all possibilities" when it comes to the case, not outright say that she's dead.

I said I think she's dead. I think the police PR was handled poorly because even though it's assumed she's dead, the police saying that there's no reason to think she's not alive is very very stupid.

I didn't say the police should have said she was dead. I said the police should have left it open-ended so if there's a happy or sad resolution, they don't look bad.

I didn't say the police should be clairvoyant at all. So stop putting words in my mouth.

I stand corrected.

[Epschtein]

i cant believe they havent cracked this case yet;

look at her cell phone records,
she was using her mothers credit cards, track their usage,
they have already talked to lots of people she was around during the time the girl was missing,
how long ago is it now that the human decomp smell was discovered? actually i know this, grandmother reported it IN THE 911 CALL. they couldnt have fuckin' lab results back by now?

i know it isnt simple, but i just hope this thing isnt getting clusterfucked...

they definitely seem to feel certain they are looking for a body tho, which makes perfect sense unfortunately.

[ChrisTheCop]

I stand corrected.

Really? Nothing? I set it up perfectly and everything, and Matty walked right into it...
I was lol'ing all night, thinking I'd at least get a winkey face by this afternoon.

Oh well.

And yeah Epschtein, I havent seen anything new on this for days,
since they basically said they were leaning more toward murder.
I guess that makes sense, if youre not looking for her, you dont need the public's help,
so why continue talking to the press?

[ChrisTheCop]

The Orlando Sentinel has 3 911 calls posted online.

Here. (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/)

[Epschtein]

wtf is wrong with people?

fox just had this guy from america's most wanted on, and he says that if the DNA comes back on the hair and it is caylee's then it is a murder investigation because the child must have been in the trunk.

ummm wrong?! if the hair can be proven to have come from caylee's head while she was dead then yes, but there could be any number of reasons that her hair might be in the trunk if it cant be proven she was dead when it came out.

also, the lawyer bimbos on fox are saying that the first 911 call shows that the grnadmother is obstructing justice. they are focusing on her demeanor and the comment she makes "i have already given you a month" (to produce caylee).

just because she says she has given her a month it doesnt mean that the grandmother knows she has been "a missing person" for a month, it could just mean that she hasnt been allowed to see caylee for a month.

i think the grandmother sounds believable during the third call when she says casey has just told her for the first time that she hasnt seen caylee in a month.

[ChrisTheCop]

New, infuriating, phone call from Casey to her friend, from jail. (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24089403-2,00.html)

(You gotta scroll down to about half page for the video)

And from that same page....
Questions over concrete slab

FOX News reported Cindy Anthony refused to answer questions about a new concrete slab that was reportedly poured in her backyard over the July 4 long weekend.

Orange County Sheriff’s detectives said they searched the property with cadaver dogs and didn’t know anything about the concrete slab.

“The sheriff’s office knows everything that we’ve done in that yard over the last year,” Cindy Anthony told WFTV. “We’ve disclosed everything. If they had any concerns, I would think they would have followed up on it already.”

[Freitag]

wtf is wrong with people?

fox just had this guy from america's most wanted on, and he says that if the DNA comes back on the hair and it is caylee's then it is a murder investigation because the child must have been in the trunk.

ummm wrong?! if the hair can be proven to have come from caylee's head while she was dead then yes, but there could be any number of reasons that her hair might be in the trunk if it cant be proven she was dead when it came out.



Exactly what I was thinking; just because Caylee's hair is in the trunk doesn't exactly make this a slam dunk murder investigation.

Caylee's stroller could have been stored in the trunk; hairs from the stroller or other things could have been transferred into the trunk that way.

Hair is EASY to get into a trunk. Blood is a lot harder to explain.

[Drunky McBetidont]

i bet she left the kid in the car when she went in somewhere (friends, beauty salon, etc) and came out to find her dead. she got scared of being blamed for the death and buried the kid.
this kind of thing happens in florida.

[Epschtein]

^very possible betidont. i kind of feel like she would have cracked by now tho if it happened like that. but its just a guess.

they refused to stop the release of video/tape of her phone calls and visits yesterday.

and today they refused to lowed her bond.

there are a bunch of pictures on the web that show her out at a club several times during the time her daughter was missing. fox news is reporting them today like they are breaking news but they have been out there for days lol.

she has hinted at another person that is involved, and i think she has implied that she still hasnt given the exact correct date. but she cant! if she tells too much they will hurt her daughter and family!

god i want to punch this bitch right in the uterus so she cant have any more kids.

[ChrisTheCop]

Casey may be released today. (http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5620249&page=1)

[~Katja~]

Casey may be released today. (http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5620249&page=1)

she hasn't talked all this time, I can't see her talking now.
What a waste on the bail posted.

[red_red_red]

she hasn't talked all this time, I can't see her talking now.
What a waste on the bail posted. this might be a good thing, you know the cops will be following her everywhere, maybe she'll fuck up and they'll find the grave.

[~Katja~]

I am certain the little girl is dead.

I cannot believe that the grandmother still sits there protecting her daughter instead of making her tell the truth.

Now the mother is back in jail for check fraud and theft.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD92SP5580

[Kris10]

This woman knows exactly what happened to her daughter. I'm certain the little girl is dead as well.

[cougarjake13]

where would the kid be if still alive???


someone would recognize her so unless shes cooped up and alive


shes prob dead

[CousinDave]

Let's say the kid was kidnapped. There is so much heat on this case, by now they would have killed the kid and disposed of the body, or turned her lose.

I have no doubt the mother killed the kid, probably accidentally, drowned in the bathtub, maybe pool, or fried her in the car while mommy was getting high.

[~Katja~]

Chloroform traces found in Casey Anthony’s car, FBI lab reports (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/2008_09_04_Chloroform_traces_found_in_Casey_Anthon y_s_car__FBI_lab_reports/srvc=home&position=recent)

whether it was an accident so she could go out and party or she purposely overdosed her... or someone else dosed the little girl...

more and more evidence that she is dead.

[futool]

This mother makes me sick.
How does a parent, under any possible circumstances NOT help find their "missing" child?
I can't even wrap my head around it. And i have a HUGE head.

[cougarjake13]

is there any chance that someone is trying to frame her ???

[futool]

is there any chance that someone is trying to frame her ???

It's possible...
http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/daily/9510/10-03/fuhrman/mark_fuhrman1.gif

[~Katja~]

is there any chance that someone is trying to frame her ???

is there any chance she killed her?

is there any chance she killed her accidentally because chloroform CAN be deadly?

Is there any chance someone else used the chloroform on Casey in the car and not the kid?

seriously, there are endless possibilities... and the bitch won't speak up to protect her child, so in my eyes the kid IS dead and she is covering it up for as long as she can

[Knowledged_one]

is there any chance we can just go ahead and cut this womans head off

[cougarjake13]

is there any chance she killed her?

is there any chance she killed her accidentally because chloroform CAN be deadly?

Is there any chance someone else used the chloroform on Casey in the car and not the kid?

seriously, there are endless possibilities... and the bitch won't speak up to protect her child, so in my eyes the kid IS dead and she is covering it up for as long as she can



sadly the kid is prob dead and the mom prob had something to do with it

but i hear no one throwing out the possibility that someone else did it and framed the mom


all the media is set to hang this bitch ... esp that cunt nancy grace, its the only thing she ever has on her show anymore

[~Katja~]

sadly the kid is prob dead and the mom prob had something to do with it

but i hear no one throwing out the possibility that someone else did it and framed the mom


all the media is set to hang this bitch ... esp that cunt nancy grace, its the only thing she ever has on her show anymore

there had been earlier reports that she knew where the child was and did not tell in order to not endanger her... the grandmother said that her daughter had been betrayed by someone she trusted... so not only does the mom have info she could share to help the case along, but she is making it pretty easy to not be on her side by sticking to her silence game

[cougarjake13]

there had been earlier reports that she knew where the child was and did not tell in order to not endanger her... the grandmother said that her daughter had been betrayed by someone she trusted... so not only does the mom have info she could share to help the case along, but she is making it pretty easy to not be on her side by sticking to her silence game


ahhh

[Zorro]

is there any chance she killed her?

is there any chance she killed her accidentally because chloroform CAN be deadly?

Is there any chance someone else used the chloroform on Casey in the car and not the kid?

seriously, there are endless possibilities... and the bitch won't speak up to protect her child, so in my eyes the kid IS dead and she is covering it up for as long as she can

Way back when I was in High School one of the kids stole chloroform from the school lab and mugged the cafeteria lady with the cash box. I guess he thought it was like a movie and he'd knock her out steal the money and that would be the end. Instead he caused severe brain damage and turned her into a vegetable. Apparently that chloroform is some nasty shit.

[cougarjake13]

Way back when I was in High School one of the kids stole chloroform from the school lab and mugged the cafeteria lady with the cash box. I guess he thought it was like a movie and he'd knock her out steal the money and that would be the end. Instead he caused severe brain damage and turned her into a vegetable. Apparently that chloroform is some nasty shit.

so what did the kid get ??

jail time ?

[~Katja~]

Way back when I was in High School one of the kids stole chloroform from the school lab and mugged the cafeteria lady with the cash box. I guess he thought it was like a movie and he'd knock her out steal the money and that would be the end. Instead he caused severe brain damage and turned her into a vegetable. Apparently that chloroform is some nasty shit.

it's no longer used in the medical field because it can cause brain damage and sudden death.

so what did the kid get ??

jail time ?
lunch money and a guilt trip of a life time

[Zorro]

so what did the kid get ??

jail time ?

To be honest I don't remember...he was whisked away from school, but after that I have no idea...it was like 30 years ago...

[cougarjake13]

To be honest I don't remember...he was whisked away from school, but after that I have no idea...it was like 30 years ago...

god damn

[ChrisTheCop]

Apparently that chloroform is some nasty shit.

Whenever I hear the word chloroform, I think of this scene, from The Vanishing.

It's so much more creepier with the lead up, but I couldnt find one that wasnt too long.

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[ralphbxny]

I want this bitch to fry if she killed her.

[Knowledged_one]

She has been indicted on a bunch of counts including Capital Murder

And her lawyer said she would turn herself over if indicted

However, you know how they caught her, she was caught switching to a new car to avoid the law

Kill this bitch now

[RAAMONE]

i heard he dad is testifying against her now

[~Katja~]

i heard he dad is testifying against her now

didn't sound like he knew much detail
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26988149/

[EliSnow]

I just read on CNN that a utility worker found a bag with a child's remains in a bag somewhat near Caylee's grandparent's home. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html)

[topless_mike]

i did as well.

its a shame. mom is fucking hot, but batshit insane.

[Fezticle98]

I'm tired of them referring to people as "Tot mom" and "Tot grandma" on that Nancy Grace show. It enrages me.

[topless_mike]

<s>on that</s> Nancy Grace <s>show. It</s> <s>enrages</s> arouses me.

:huh:

[EliSnow]

I'm tired of them referring to people as "Tot mom" and "Tot grandma" on that Nancy Grace show. It enrages me.

Anything on the Nancy Grace show enrages me. I saw her last night bitching at some attorney who was relating why a Florida mall was not releasing to the Anthony defense team a video of a child that may have been Caylee. She was unbelievable.

[Fezticle98]

I despise her. She is annoying as all hell and looks like my old, ugly c-word of a boss from back in FL.

[skyscraper]

I despise her. She is annoying as all hell and looks like my old, ugly c-word of a boss from back in FL.

we need to establish a rule on these boards that no euphemisms be allowed. don't call your old boss a c-word, call her a CUNT because that's what you mean to say.
but I agree, the mom is hot, would definitely hit that, but batshit insane and needs to die if she is guilty. the da should revoke the offer of no death penalty now that they have the body.

[angrymissy]

I'm tired of them referring to people as "Tot mom" and "Tot grandma" on that Nancy Grace show. It enrages me.

AGHHHH I can't take that either:

TOT MOM CASEY ANTHONY

I hate that bitch yet am compelled to listen on XM when I'm in the car. What is she going to do once this case is closed? It's all she talks about, every day.

Also, NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS TWINS. THEY ARE DEMONSPAWN.

[brettmojo]

Bat shit crazy = great lay.

She's probably a moron though and she accidentally killed the kid somehow. She probably wasn't paying attention to the kid and forgot to feed her or something.

[NYHCmikeX]

Bat shit crazy = great lay.

She's probably a moron though and she accidentally killed the kid somehow. She probably wasn't paying attention to the kid and forgot to feed her or something.

She also googled chloroform before the kid went missing. She killed her, probably so she could go party or for something stupid.

[scottinnj]

I'm tired of them referring to people as "Tot mom" and "Tot grandma" on that Nancy Grace show. It enrages me.

The minute I see Nancy Grace I'm enraged. At least you made it to the headlines.

http://www.ballslist.com/celebrity/licorish/nancy-grace.jpg

I mean, look at that! Can't you just feel your fists clenching?

[Slumbag]

Also, NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS TWINS. THEY ARE DEMONSPAWN.
On election night, I was looking for some coverage. I went by the channel Nancy Grace is on and it was her show. Nothing about the election. It was her twins first birthday and they were celebrating. I fucking lost it.


She loves missing white girls.

[conman823]

The minute I see Nancy Grace I'm enraged. At least you made it to the headlines.

http://www.ballslist.com/celebrity/licorish/nancy-grace.jpg

I mean, look at that! Can't you just feel your fists clenching?

Can't we start a thread with this picture and a title "Scream at Nancy Graces photo"

I FUCKING HATE YOUR STUPID HELMET HAIR, AND I HOPE YOUR TWINS GROW UP TO HATE YOU AS MUCH AS I DO!!!

[marcpsych]

On election night, I was looking for some coverage. I went by the channel Nancy Grace is on and it was her show. Nothing about the election. It was her twins first birthday and they were celebrating. I fucking lost it.


She loves missing white girls.

Nancy Grace should be drawn and quartered. She is an exploitative cunt.

Also, I agree about the white girls thing. I am definitely not one to buy into willy-nilly claims of racism, but it is so racist how the cute white girls who go missing are on the news for months, but the little black sisters get hardly anything, if anything at all, in terms of media exposure (and very brief exposure when it does occur).

I hate the media.

Marc

[conman823]

Its really a sad story. There are plenty of people who want kids out there who can't have them. This selfish, spoiled, enabled, and entitiled BRAT goes and kills her kid. Why? Did she cramp your whore lifestyle? Afraid Mommy and Daddy wouldn't give you a free car to drive and money everyday to go hang out?

And the Grandmother and Grandfather really ticked me off too. I really believe they wanted to find this child alive, but if that fucking trash was my daughter I would have been putting her head into a wall until she STOPPED LYING. They raised this brat, and now shes a child murderer.

And the thing about black kids is true. Just name ONE high profile case. When Natalie Holloway went missing in Aruba or whatever there was a young black girl missing around the same time in the same area, but OH WELL to her!

[SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez]

And the thing about black kids is true. Just name ONE high profile case. When Natalie Holloway went missing in Aruba or whatever there was a young black girl missing around the same time in the same area, but OH WELL to her!

It's take a celebrity being involved, like the recent murders involving Jennifer Hudson's relatives, for the media to pay attention to a missing or murdered black child.

It's absolutely insane how blatant the disparity is when a nothing story like some nutso mom offing her daughter trumps all of the major news stories of the day...and we're talking major stories given what's going down right now.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's take a celebrity being involved, like the recent murders involving Jennifer Hudson's relatives, for the media to pay attention to a missing or murdered black child.

It's absolutely insane how blatant the disparity is when a nothing story like some nutso mom offing her daughter trumps all of the major news stories of the day...and we're talking major stories given what's going down right now.

I almost wonder if these stories serve a psychological purpose for people: that is, you might have doubts about your fitness as a parent, you might wonder if you're doing a good job -- but, goddammit, I'm not like <i>this</i> cunt!

That is, it's almost a public lynching of sorts. Our failures, our inadequacies, our insecurities can all be set aside as we join in condemnation of this evil woman.

Now, please don't take this as me saying she deserves less than to rot in jail forever if she is convicted. I am not speaking of the crime itself. I am speaking of the coverage of the crime and the reaction to it.

[EliSnow]

Apparently, some evidence found amongst the child's remains may link those remains to the home of Caylee Anthony. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/ap_on_re_us/missing_florida_girl)

DNA analysis will take about 1-2 weeks. But allegedly there was something of interest (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/12/caylee.anthony/index.html)found at the grandparent's home when the police searched it after finding the remains.

I think we'll get a good sense before DNA analysis that the remains are Caylee Anthony's.

[Freitag]

going back to what Mojo said, there was a double-murder of two girls in OKC some time ago... I think it was a few months before the girl went missing on the myspace deal in Vermont... and NOTHING. No coverage.

So he's right, but it's a problem of what TV has become.

EDIT: I never saw a picture of the girls involved. I stand corrected.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25122135/wid/18298287/

[angrymissy]

going back to what Mojo said, there was a double-murder of two girls in OKC some time ago... I think it was a few months before the girl went missing on the myspace deal in Vermont... and NOTHING. No coverage.

So he's right, but it's a problem of what TV has become.

EDIT: I never saw a picture of the girls involved. I stand corrected.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25122135/wid/18298287/

What ever happened w/ that - it was a really FUCKED UP story...

[EliSnow]

Body tentatively id'ed as Caylee Anthony. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/12/caylee.anthony/index.html)

I think we'll see a plea deal within a month.

[topless_mike]

this isnt going to end well....

[keithy_19]

this isnt going to end well....

Something about this made me giggle.

[EliSnow]

Judge shoots down defense motions to get access to crime scene so that their experts could process the site. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/16/caylee.anthony/index.html)

The court made the right decision. Allowing the defense to do this would have caused utter chaos, and would have interfered with the investigation, as the judge found.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Casey should be executed if convicted

She is such a dishonest cunt, she must have been caught in over 10-15 lies

If she didnt want children, so she could suck dick for Coke and Ex, so many families would have adopted that cute girl

I would have pleaded her down to 50 years, if she would have been honest from the get go


What will that cunt nancy Grace due, once this trial is over


No pleas now, go for the Death Penalty, it will be one of the hottest executions

[cougarjake13]

Body tentatively id'ed as Caylee Anthony. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/12/caylee.anthony/index.html)

I think we'll see a plea deal within a month.




any word yet on whether or not its her body

[conman823]

What will that cunt nancy Grace due, once this trial is over

Continue the crusade to turn her hair into Magnetos Helmet.

[EliSnow]

AP is reporting that DNA tests have confirmed the remains found last week are Caylee's. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_re_us/missing_florida_girl)

[Zorro]

AP is reporting that DNA tests have confirmed the remains found last week are Caylee's. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_re_us/missing_florida_girl)

Wow...millions spent on an investigation and a meter reader accidently finds the remains. That Orlando Sheriff's Office must be proud.

[WhistlePig]

Poor little girl. :down:

[SP1!]

Wow...millions spent on an investigation and a meter reader accidently finds the remains. That Orlando Sheriff's Office must be proud.

You must not know a lot of cops, most are dumb as fucking bricks and if you point that out they arrest you.

[Zorro]

You must not know a lot of cops, most are dumb as fucking bricks and if you point that out they arrest you.

I was only commenting on the way that one police dept ran this particular investigation

[scottinnj]

You must not know a lot of cops, most are dumb as fucking bricks and if you point that out they arrest you.

SP1!, meet Chris the Cop.

[Slumbag]

I don't know how I feel about this.
That fucking monster's dad is suicidal.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483164,00.html
I don't really know if he's been trying to cover things up or not, but he definitely feels guilty. The new is saying that
The remains of Anthony’s granddaugher were found in December after months of searching for the missing girl. His wife Cindy said picking out jewelry for Caylee's funeral may have sent him over the edge, the station reported.
I'm just not buying it.

[KingGeno]

Every man has his breaking point. He could have a hand in it, he could have found out after the fact that his daughter did it or even his own wife did it or his wife is covering it up. Regardless of the outcome, people have and will die.