R&F XM Listening Thread for 7/21/2008

[Hottub]

Sorry I'm late, Buddays. I'm actually working this morning.

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[Edwin]

First! Ha ha. Hey buddays. Will be listening in the sexmobile 2.0 today. Have to get to York PA through a massive shut-down of Route 83 South. Fun times!

[RhinoinMN]

Morning Buddays:

Was that chic an extra on Beverly Hills 90210?



Todays song:

Everybody Knows This is Nowhere - Neil Young with Crazy Horse.

[Freakshow]

I'm taking at least a month off from starting the threads, damn it.


I am back from my trip to the land of Bourbon...

Let's keep it going:

"Glad" by Traffic.

[KingGeno]

Well, that is a pretty lady to start the week off to.

Hello buddays! Everyone enjoy their Dark Knight weekend?

[RhinoinMN]

I'm taking at least a month off from starting the threads, damn it.


I am back from my trip to the land of Bourbon...

Let's keep it going:

"Glad" by Traffic.

Good call. After Friday's show I was rocking to Traffic all after noon. On Saturday I went to my dads place and asked him if he wanted to share some Makers Mark and Listen to his Vinyl. Biggest smile I have seen on his face in years.

[biggestmexi]

im happee

[bobsnin]

Hola Amigos!

[biggestmexi]

Hola Amigos!

is there a reason you had to post that right under me?

you limp chorizo.

kid, kid, i kid.

oh im not funny :thumbdown:

[Freakshow]

Good call. After Friday's show I was rocking to Traffic all after noon. On Saturday I went to my dads place and asked him if he wanted to share some Makers Mark and Listen to his Vinyl. Biggest smile I have seen on his face in years.

I almost fell out of my chair when Dave said he hadn't heard of Traffic. I bought John Barleycorn Must Die on CD a few years ago and still listen to it regularly.

I went on big kick buying great albums from the 70's--Music From Big Pink, Quadrophenia, Nashville Skyline, A Nod's as Good as a Wink to a Blind Horse by the Faces. Some of the best albums i've ever heard.

[bobsnin]

is there a reason you had to post that right under me?

you limp chorizo.

kid, kid, i kid.

oh im not funny :thumbdown:

Just speaking to my audience.

[hexy68]

Good Morning All....this hot weather sucks! :furious:

[drjoek]

Hi all

Saint Dominics Preview Van

[RhinoinMN]

I almost fell out of my chair when Dave said he hadn't heard of Traffic. I bought John Barleycorn Must Die on CD a few years ago and still listen to it regularly.

I went on big kick buying great albums from the 70's--Music From Big Pink, Quadrophenia, Nashville Skyline, A Nod's as Good as a Wink to a Blind Horse by the Faces. Some of the best albums i've ever heard.

We Listened to Music From Big Pink too! Dave was lying though. They played Low Spark a year ago in Feb. http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56874&highlight=Low+Spark+High-Heeled+Boys&page=3

He had to have heard Traffic then. Even so, if had just heard Traffic for the first time a year and a half ago......ugggghh!

[biggestmexi]

Just speaking to my audience.

el árbol púrpura jadea la ropa interior dejada

sucka

[Servo]

Morning buddays... how's everyone doing on this sweaty Monday?

Today's song... "Shuffle Your Feet" by BRMC.

[biggestmexi]

Good Morning All....this hot weather sucks! :furious:

Morning buddays... how's everyone doing on this sweaty Monday?


Just had a big storm and its 73. whos hot? its nice out.

[Chip196]

Good Morning Buddays!

Today's song will be "Ants Marching" - DMB

[Hottub]

Ichiban = Dark Knight, 66 mil.

"XM" - Steely Dan.

Check out this video Mojo put up.

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[bobsnin]

el árbol púrpura jadea la ropa interior dejada

sucka

Yo uso Google traductor

[KnoxHarrington]

Heya buddays!

I'm at home today (on vacation!) so I get to post with a real keyboard and not tapping away on my iPhone's fake-ass keyboard. I'm happy.

[FunkyDrummer]

Hola, amigos!

Opening song:
G. Love and the Special Sauce - Cold Beverage
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[RAAMONE]

Good Morning All....this hot weather sucks! :furious:

for some reason its 62 in my office today...i have to keep walking outside to warm up

[biggestmexi]

Yo uso Google traductor

lol no.... ... ... babelfish seniora


Hola, amigos!


Y?

[A.J.]

Good morning! I'm back in the USA and able to listen to shows again!

[KnoxHarrington]

Oh, by the way, allow me to highly recommend "We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen", a great documentary on one of the truly great underground bands of all time.

If you don't own a copy of "Double Nickels on the Dime", I pity you.

[hexy68]

for some reason its 62 in my office today...i have to keep walking outside to warm up

i got 86 degrees with 60% humidity...and half my building has no AC so far today :sad:

[calmtempest]

Good Morning Buddies...

I caught up on last week's shows over the weekend, is it true that Mr. Bennington is leaving at the end of the month?

[biggestmexi]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/ronfeznet.jpg

Is fez logged in or Daves brother?

Or is RF.net just that gay now?

i think its the whole east side explosion thing.
edit: see below.

[Hottub]

I saw that ad last week.
I guess we are officially that gay.

[Friday]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/ronfeznet.jpg

Is fez logged in or Daves brother?

Or is RF.net just that gay now?

i think its the whole east side explosion thing.

it's all looking very hack from where i am seated.
seriously.

but that may be the 3 hrs sleep in 2 days speaking. w00t.

i hope the opener is dave matthews 'grace is gone'. i like that song for some reason. heh.

[RhinoinMN]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/ronfeznet.jpg

Is fez logged in or Daves brother?

Or is RF.net just that gay now?

i think its the whole east side explosion thing.
edit: see below.

Thank you Adblock.

[RAAMONE]

I saw that ad last week.
I guess we are officially that gay.

i love the title...just simply GAY.COM

[biggestmexi]

it's all looking very hack from where i am seated.
seriously.



whats hack?

the pic? because the banner is at the top now in the thread sometimes.


RhinoMN: Y thank you? Dont you mean damn adblock. LOL LOL LOLZ!!!!!!11!!!

[RAAMONE]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/ronfeznet.jpg

Is fez logged in or Daves brother?

Or is RF.net just that gay now?

i think its the whole east side explosion thing.
edit: see below.

yeah...whats that all about...i've been gone a couple days

[birchman_colony]

Anyone know if R & F have contracts through the merger? Just wondering if they are in the same grind as O&A. Ron will occasionally make cryptic references to the end.

[KingGeno]

Thank you Adblock.

Second that.

but that may be the 3 hrs sleep in 2 days speaking. w00t.

Sounds like SOMEONE needs a turkey, wine, and home movies scheme introduced in their life. Tell me.....do you have action figures and board games? Hmmm?

[trogdor2k]

Oh, by the way, allow me to highly recommend "We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen", a great documentary on one of the truly great underground bands of all time.

If you don't own a copy of "Double Nickels on the Dime", I pity you.

I will have to check that out.

"me and Mike Watt playing guitar":thumbup:

[biggestmexi]

yeah...whats that all about...i've been gone a couple days

i think its becuase the real east side dave posted after his billy joel concert.
thats just a guess i really dont know?

:drunk: but i figure this means the same thing

[bobsnin]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/ronfeznet.jpg

Is fez logged in or Daves brother?

Or is RF.net just that gay now?

i think its the whole east side explosion thing.
edit: see below.

I'm glad you found that. I was trying to remember the website for a gay friend of mine that is gay and its not me.

[aceofspades7]

hiya buddays!

[comp_atkins]

i've been to poughkeepsie...

[biggestmexi]

I'm glad you found that. I was trying to remember the website for a gay friend of mine that is gay and its not me.

friend? :happy: oh ok

[Friday]

whats hack?

the pic? because the banner is at the top now in the thread sometimes.


nope.
the whole East Side name change phenomenon.


Sounds like SOMEONE needs a turkey, wine, and home movies scheme introduced in their life. Tell me.....do you have action figures and board games? Hmmm?

are you the turkey? :wink:

i want that shirt.

[Freakshow]

Oh, by the way, allow me to highly recommend "We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen", a great documentary on one of the truly great underground bands of all time.

If you don't own a copy of "Double Nickels on the Dime", I pity you.

I recommended We Jam Econo in the documentaries thread. I loved the old 9:30 club footage (the original 9:30 club, of course).

[barjockey]

Had a good time in Asbury park watching:drunk: Govt Mule yesterday

[Drunky McBetidont]

i love ron and fez !!! :wub:

[OGC]

Hey Boppers !!

[jimmyolsenblues]

what song was that standing out here in the rain? al green? what was the name.

[biggestmexi]

nope.
the whole East Side name change phenomenon.

i want that shirt.

east side friday does seem to have a ring to it.:devil2:

[Drunky McBetidont]

i have been picturing fez in a moomoo all weekend :) i hope the ass is dry today

[jayme]

congrats dave

[dino_electropolis]

Does this mean no more Fucktwat the Clown?

[KnoxHarrington]

I think that "The Dark Knight" is way too dark to pass up Titanic. It won't have 14 year old girls going to it over and over to weep about Leo's death like Titanic did.

[nate1000]

Alright, buddays. I got my baseball cap turned backwards, got my hackey sack, my shell necklace and crew neck t shirt - I am ready for Dave Matthews Monday!!!!!

[OGC]

Oh boy another bet.

[Freakshow]

I think that "The Dark Knight" is way too dark to pass up Titanic. It won't have 14 year old girls going to it over and over to weep about Leo's death like Titanic did.

He dies? You rooned it.

[KingGeno]

The end be a'comin closer. Grats on the new job Dave!

are you the turkey? :wink: I want that shirt.

Be anything ya want, but the shirt be mines. You should see my other shirts.

[aceofspades7]

can't wait to see the movie - the lines at the uptown theater in dc were crazy over the weekend - hoping to go wed night.

[PD]

afternoon buddays.

Chicago!

[sailor]

Alright, buddays. I got my baseball cap turned backwards, got my hackey sack, my shell necklace and crew neck t shirt - I am ready for Dave Matthews Monday!!!!!

ichiban!

[KnoxHarrington]

This is what annoys me most about Ronnie's film talk: it's so obvious he's so prejudiced against any sort of sci-fi/fantasy that he just can't enjoy them on any level.

[MisterSmith]

I think that "The Dark Knight" is way too dark to pass up Titanic. It won't have 14 year old girls going to it over and over to weep about Leo's death like Titanic did.

I agree. I think there will be a lot of repeat viewing of Dark Knight, but not nearly with the numbers that Titanic could achieve.

can't wait to see the movie - the lines at the uptown theater in dc were crazy over the weekend - hoping to go wed night.

And I think that is why the Saturday numbers were lower. People were daunted by the long lines and ticket sellouts Thursday night, Friday, and a lot of Saturday.

[led37zep]

http://www.blulit.com/uploads/scubasteve_.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

Dave couldn't find a couple more cliches to throw in there?

[FunkyDrummer]

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[OGC]

Get the name of the song right Dave.

[KnoxHarrington]

I think I would have walked out of the stadium the moment that Stephen Tyler dragged his zombie ass out onto the stage. That sounds like a nightmare.

[MisterSmith]

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Dave, I luv ya but I never want to sit by you at a concert. You are the guy that sings along but can't carry a tune and doesn't know the right words. That drives me nuts!

[led37zep]

Earl:furious:

[Jennitalia]

our seats were pretty bad also. we were behind home, closer to the third base side, in the upper deck (row g). some old bags were bitching at the girls in front of us for standing up at the concert because they couldnt see. i...i dont know what they thought they were seeing....billy was a black dot from where we were.

[OGC]

Can someone do a screen cap of the youtube video of Dave's seats ? Youtube stuff is blocked here at work.

[Jennitalia]

I think I would have walked out of the stadium the moment that Stephen Tyler dragged his zombie ass out onto the stage. That sounds like a nightmare.



Stephen Tyler rocked his zombie ass. he was awesome.

[MisterSmith]

Can someone do a screen cap of the youtube video of Dave's seats ? Youtube stuff is blocked here at work.

http://elisa.bohnsack.com/images/You.are.here.7.04.jpg

[Doom_Vulture]

Just turned on the show. What is ESD's new job?

[Friday]

Be anything ya want, but the shirt be mines. You should see my other shirts.

i want the shirt that says this.... but it's discontinued.... :sad:

http://www.michellementary.com/pictures/asthmaissexy.jpg

[chili]

Hey buddays! I didn't get to see Billy Joel, but I did get to see Jim Gaffigan Saturday night.

[Friday]

Wackbag's own Hosp??

um.... no.

[ANC]

Hey Buddiessss... :bye:

[nate1000]

turn it off


turn it off


turn it off

[Servo]

Hey Buddiessss... :bye:

Oh! There he is!

[OGC]

http://elisa.bohnsack.com/images/You.are.here.7.04.jpg

:clap::clap::clap:

[biggestmexi]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/biggestmexi/mrthebean.gif

good beat

[ANC]

Oh! There he is!

Yeah the job is killin me... hopefully not for long.

[MisterSmith]

OK, here is a real screen cap of Dave's seats. Looks like the upper deck.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5133/davesseatsld2.jpg

[chili]

Why do we have to manufacture an argument here? Who gives a fuck who was better, Jack Nicholson's or Heath Ledger's Joker... I liked both in different ways.

[TjM]

I don't like movie snob Ronnie.

[PD]

Ronnie gets the movie better than the callers.
(that the Joker lies all the time)

[KnoxHarrington]

I don't like movie snob Ronnie.

Reacting against a movie due to its marketing is as much herd mentality as loving it due to its marketing.

[TheMojoPin]

Why do we have to manufacture an argument here? Who gives a fuck who was better, Jack Nicholson's or Heath Ledger's Joker... I liked both in different ways.

No kidding. I don't know why some people think they can only like one. The '89 one has dated somewhat and it's more a Tim Burton Joker movie that guest star's Tim Burton's Batman, but it's still a ton of fun to watch and Jack is great in it.

[Friday]

I don't like movie snob Ronnie.

x2
it annoys


i like that the joker lied constantly.
it went with the darker, more sociopathic character themes .

[chili]

Ronnie gets the movie better than the callers.
(that the Joker lies all the time)

That wasn't really fucking hard to pick up.

[TjM]

Also he's wrong. Allot of fans do like the Burton movies they just hated that shite that Joel Shumaker was trying to pedal

[hexy68]

they showed guys going to the movie dressed up like the joker in Philly...what douches!!

[PD]

That wasn't really fucking hard to pick up.

I agree, but obviously some caller didnt get it.

[TheMojoPin]

Ron is right. You can't escape the inherrent homoeroticism in superhero comics. The women are such obvious window dressing for a bunch of muscle-head guys who just want to fuck the shit out of each other, and Batma and the Joker are right at the top of this. This movie, however, makes Batman and Harvey the great unrequited love story...they wanted to caress each other's sweaty bodies so bad.

[chili]

I agree, but obviously some caller didnt get it.

Yeah, callers are often dumb.

[OGC]

Best Joker of all time .

http://norbizness.com/archives/modine.JPG

[TheMojoPin]

Maggie Gylenehall is a beast. Her brother is prettier than she is.

[chili]

Ron is right. You can't escape the inherrent homoeroticism in superhero comics. The women are such obvious window dressing for a bunch of muscle-head guys who just want to fuck the shit out of each other, and Batma and the Joker are right at the top of this. This movie, however, makes Batman and Harvey the great unrequited love story...they wanted to caress each other's sweaty bodies so bad.

I didn't pick up any of the homoeroticism that Ron was talking about and you're piggybacking on. Agreed, the Dawes character was weak and there's a pattern of weak women in comic book movies. I just think you're stretching it waaaaay out with your take. I guess I wasn't actively looking for gay themes in the film, not really my priority when I watch movies.

[skyscraper]

hola buddayssssssss.

[Friday]

cute as a button.

and this Rachel can actually act her way out of a paper bag.

it's a throw away part.... but the previous 'actress' was just terrible.

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/images/user/MaggieGyllenhaal.jpg

[TjM]

I don't see the gay thing either. Also as far as weak women go it depends on the movie. For Hellboy 2 Del Toro actually made it a point that Blaire act less dependent

[schabadoo]

Ron is right. You can't escape the inherrent homoeroticism in superhero comics. The women are such obvious window dressing for a bunch of muscle-head guys who just want to fuck the shit out of each other, and Batma and the Joker are right at the top of this.

You just described professional wrestling.

[KingGeno]

Ugly bitch! :lol:

Oddly enough, Maggie G. was just announced as being in the Maxim Top 100. I don't mind her. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274812/)

[TheMojoPin]

I didn't pick up any of the homoeroticism that Ron was talking about and you're piggybacking on. Agreed, the Dawes character was weak and there's a pattern of weak women in comic book movies. I just think you're stretching it waaaaay out with your take. I guess I wasn't actively looking for gay themes in the film, not really my priority when I watch movies.

It's not just this movie. It's comics, period, and I say that as someone who lives and dies by comics. They're gay as fuck. Women exist only as over the top sexual beacons that seem to scream "LOOK, THEY'RE NOT GAY!!!" or only as victims as betrayers. Women are only there as obvious sexual counterparts to the rampant gayness or to be shallow and evil or cheap emotional touchpoints when they get put into danger or murdered.

[skyscraper]

I can see the gay thing with batman and robin, but not all comic book characters. tights, capes, and knee-high boots are very manly.

[PD]

Maggie Gylenehall is a beast. Her brother is prettier than she is.

true, but as was mentioned by someone (GVAC or Hottub) in the movie thread,
I'd bang the Maggie that was in The Secretary.
http://everythingandnothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/05/secretary.jpg

[nate1000]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/graphics/2007/09/05/maggie.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

I'd recommend a book called "The Ten Cent Plague" to explain why comic books are the way they are. They did try putting mature themes, including sexuality, into comic books in the '50s, and those guys got crucified. So the only comics that survived were superhero books, with clear morality -- and no sexuality.

I don't think comics have quite recovered, at least not in the mainstream.

[TheMojoPin]

true, but as was mentioned by someone (GVAC or Hottub) in the movie thread,
I'd bang the Maggie that was in The Secretary.
http://everythingandnothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/05/secretary.jpg

Without a doubt, but in everything else she looks like Droopy Dog.

[PD]

It's not just this movie. It's comics, period, and I say that as someone who lives and dies by comics. They're gay as fuck. Women exist only as over the top sexual beacons that seem to scream "LOOK, THEY'RE NOT GAY!!!" or only as victims as betrayers. Women are only there as obvious sexual counterparts to the rampant gayness or to be shallow and evil or cheap emotional touchpoints when they get put into danger or murdered.

I'm currently reading The Watchmen, in anticipation of the movie, and that story makes all of this talk even more interesting.

[chili]

It's not just this movie. It's comics, period, and I say that as someone who lives and dies by comics. They're gay as fuck. Women exist only as over the top sexual beacons that seem to scream "LOOK, THEY'RE NOT GAY!!!" or only as victims as betrayers. Women are only there as obvious sexual counterparts to the rampant gayness or to be shallow and evil or cheap emotional touchpoints when they get put into danger or murdered.

But we're talking about comic book movies here, and specifically Dark Knight in general. Comics are geared, mostly, to young virgins. The female characters are weak and all have great big tits. I was just saying that I fail to grasp the homoerotic undertones you claim run rampant in Dark Knight. Maybe if I saw it again and looked for that it'd be different, but I doubt it.

[TheMojoPin]

I'd recommend a book called "The Ten Cent Plague" to explain why comic books are the way they are. They did try putting mature themes, including sexuality, into comic books in the '50s, and those guys got crucified. So the only comics that survived were superhero books, with clear morality -- and no sexuality.

I don't think comics have quite recovered, at least not in the mainstream.

Great book, but I'm not sure what you're talking about with "sexuality." It was the same thing...women were always victims or betrayers or blatant sex objects. That's it.

[schabadoo]

http://powet.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ambiguously_gay_duo.jpg

[angry gary]

i still have my old doper comix from the 70's. the fabulous furry freak brothers is still my favorite.
AG

[KingGeno]

http://everythingandnothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/05/secretary.jpg

http://myspace-808.vo.llnwd.net/01448/80/84/1448574808_l.gif

[TheMojoPin]

But we're talking about comic book movies here, and specifically Dark Knight in general. Comics are geared, mostly, to young virgins. The female characters are weak and all have great big tits. I was just saying that I fail to grasp the homoerotic undertones you claim run rampant in Dark Knight. Maybe if I saw it again and looked for that it'd be different, but I doubt it.

It's a bunch of egomaniac men who basically just want to fuck themselves, so when a version of themself comes along, they're inherrently lustful of it. They were pounding us over the head with how Batman and the Joker were just flipsides of the same coin. They hate each other because of how much they desire each other, and vice-versa.

Comics are just gay.

[MisterSmith]

Anthony Michael Hall was in a lot of the pre-release stuff that was available OnDemand. I don't know if it was on other cable systems, but it was on Comcast.

AMH was doing the same show that was in the movie, but they talked to several of the background characters to help drum up hype.

[TheMojoPin]

I miss the days we didn't give a shit about box office gross.

[MisterSmith]

:lol: I mentioned "Gone with the Wind" in another thread. The adjusted gross for that movie is close to $1.4 Billion.

It is going to be amazingly tough to reach that level.

[A.J.]

THANK YOU RON.

I've been saying that for years -- why would you possibly care about how much money a movie makes? Do you see any of that money? No -- you were the dumbass who shelled out what, $10 bucks, to see that piece of shit movie.

Besides, movies make more nowadays because they keep jacking up the price of admission.

[DolaMight]

thats hilarious, of all the people for ESD to bump into sneaking a Beersk on a subway train, Ronnie B.

If you can't brown bag a beersk on a MTA subway train why do they sell beer's at in the subway deli's etc in NYC? Never understood that, they're tallboys, they're on ice, and they come with brown bags ready to go and being sold practically in the lobby just before you hop on a train? Yet it's illegal to drink them on the train.

[led37zep]

Even tho I work on the least glamorous part of the industry,Commercial directors make by FAR the most on every shoot.

some of them make as much as 30K per shoot day. Its nuts.

[MisterSmith]

I thought Aaron Eckhart also did an excellent job. He was an outstanding Harvey Dent.

Actually, all of the lead characters were excellent. Just a really good movie IMO, regardless of what Ron says.

[skyscraper]

wrong, earl. there is not that much prestige associated with being a star. don't confuse prestige, ie respect, with being starstruck.
not to say there aren't actors worth respect, but it is the director's vision that makes the movie.

[skyscraper]

actor is the chocolate and the director is the baker?
man, I'm fuckin' starvin'.

[TheMojoPin]

James Gandolfini as the Penguin would be the funniest goddamn thing ever, and I'd pay over and over again to see it and laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaff and laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaff and laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaff.

[MisterSmith]

Ed Norton as the Joker? I think the guy is a phenomenal actor, but the Joker is simply not his kind of role.

[TheMojoPin]

I can count on one hand the number of times the closer has been considered more important than the best starters on a team.

[chili]

Dave takes it right back to the Yankees and Jeter. What a fucking homer.

[skyscraper]

starting pitcher, definitely. closers work one fucking inning. closers are the rock stars, but the game is determined by the starting pitcher.

[Bellyfullasnot]

how about Gandolfini as Kingpin in a new Daredevil?

[PD]

Starting Pitcher still has the clout.
Look at the HOF; look at what people talk about - its the Starting Pitching matchup.

[biggestmexi]

Striker - Soccer

[Friday]

GOALIE! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[RhinoinMN]

I would say the starter 20 years ago, but they were expected to pitch 7+ innings. Now if a starter throws for 5 his job is done.

[TheMojoPin]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

[spadanko]

Striker in soccer for sure... no doubt about it

[chili]

Can we just not mention soccer here? You take a possibly interesting conversation about American sports and you have to turn it into the same old shit "well you know billions of people watch soccer and you have to consider blah blah blah" durrrrrrrr.

[RhinoinMN]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

Relievers are pitchers who can't start, No?

[PD]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

exactly

[midwestjeff]

Caddy.

[Friday]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

such an angry, angry man.......

[Chip196]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

I couldn't agree more ... can Earl even name more than 5 closers actively closing in MLB right now? How is that prestige?

[chili]

Am I hearing these idiots right? Relievers are RELIEVERS. That's why the unwritten rule is when you can trade a reliver to upgrade the starting rotation or the everyday lineup, you FUCKING DO IT. Mo is the tiny, tiny, tiny exception to the rule, you dumb bastards.

Right on, man. Agree 100%, but closers are becoming more prevalent the more pussified starting pitchers are getting.

[schabadoo]

Relievers are pitchers who can't start, No?

No.

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/John-Smoltz---2004-Pitching-Action-Photofile-Photograph-C10131662.jpeg

[PD]

Dave is so wrong.

worldwide when boxing was king (Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, even Mike Tyson), the heavyweight champion was WAY more known throughout the world.

and the soccer stars weren't "Leaders" - they were simply way better than everyone - Like Michael Jordan. Maybe he was a leader, but that's not why people knew him.

[hexy68]

there is alot of teamwork in cycling

[skyscraper]

golf is not a sport, and neither is racing of any kind. there is no defense in those games. now if we take hunter s thompson's suggestion and combine golf with skeet shooting (where one guy tees off and the other guy tries to shoot the ball out of the air) then you would have a sport.
no one has mentioned cricket, either, and that is the second most popular sport in the world.

[chili]

no one has mentioned cricket, either, and that is the second most popular sport in the world.

See my above post about soccer.

[sailor]

we have the other end of that here. if huge japanese baseball players play here (or chinese basketball players) their whole countries follow them here.

[KnoxHarrington]

Why is it a shame that the Olympics are not getting any buzz? I'm happy that Beijing is not getting its chance to have its "No, we're a real country now, not just a bunch of fascist thugs" dog n pony show. Fuck them.

[biggestmexi]

Can we just not mention soccer here? You take a possibly interesting conversation about American sports and you have to turn it into the same old shit "well you know billions of people watch soccer and you have to consider blah blah blah" durrrrrrrr.

i dont watch soccer at all.

but i know it takes a lot a training and a high amount of endurance and stamina.

[RhinoinMN]

i dont watch soccer at all.

but i know it takes a lot a training and a high amount of endurance and stamina.

Agreed. I have no idea WTF is going on in that sport, but I have a lot of respect for those who play it.

[Friday]

Why is it a shame that the Olympics are not getting any buzz? I'm happy that Beijing is not getting its chance to have its "No, we're a real country now, not just a bunch of fascist thugs" dog n pony show. Fuck them.

dogs and ponies are not safe in beijing :sad:

[skyscraper]

dogs and ponies are not safe in beijing :sad:

NOW I'm fuckin' starvin'.

[sailor]

fantasy is a large part of why football's huge.

[biggestmexi]

.

[chili]

i dont watch soccer at all.

but i know it takes a lot a training and a high amount of endurance and stamina.

Completely missed my point.

[Drunky McBetidont]

five bucks says ron mentions john from cincinatti during surfing interview.

[Freakshow]

five bucks says ron mentions john from cincinatti during surfing interview.

I don't care as long as we get Johnny Appleseed by Joe Strummer right after.

[Friday]

THIS POST SHOULD BE IN ALL CAPS.



(this has been an experiment.... because i am confused about this function of the board)

ok now it works.

i may be losing my mind but last week i couldn't make any all caps posts.

such as: SSWA.

ok .
i need nap. :down:

[schabadoo]

I'm happy that Beijing is not getting its chance to have its "No, we're a real country now

I'm surprised a non-real country has last so long...

[midwestjeff]

five bucks says ron mentions john from cincinatti during surfing interview.

I got 20 that says he mentions waves.

[biggestmexi]

Completely missed my point.

what was your point then? that american are lazy and cant train for soccer?


or is it that soccer is not "all-american" like sweet nascar.

because there is a lot of soccer teams around just not that major yet in this diluted country

[Drunky McBetidont]

I got 20 that says he mentions waves.

50 says he mentions nelson mandella

[KingGeno]

Every old surfer I have ever met has been wise. And they all sold me tacos. Lots of tacos....

[chili]

what was your point then? that american are lazy and cant train for soccer?


or is it that soccer is not "all-american" like sweet nascar.

because there is a lot of soccer teams around just not that major yet in this diluted country

Where the fuck are you getting this shit about the training aspect of soccer? When the fuck did I mention anything about that or about NASCAR? Christ. My point was that it would be a better conversation for the target audience, who is much less familiar with soccer than they are with the "big four" and other popular sports in N. America, if we excluded soccer. Of course the prestige position in the world in sports would be in soccer, it's by far the most popular sport. Ronnie did the right thing and acknowledged soccer and F1, but then steered the conversation towards the more relevant, fertile ground of US sports where the audience would be able to provide many more examples.

[sailor]

my cousin's a studly soccer player and i want to do him.

fixed your mod-quote for ya.

[biggestmexi]

fixed your mod-quote for ya.

no i did not say that. nor anything resemebling that.

*edit edit edit*

[Drunky McBetidont]

Where the fuck are you getting this shit about the training aspect of soccer? When the fuck did I mention anything about that or about NASCAR? Christ. My point was that it would be a better conversation for the target audience, who is much less familiar with soccer than they are with the "big four" and other popular sports in N. America, if we excluded soccer. Of course the prestige position in the world in sports would be in soccer, it's by far the most popular sport. Ronnie did the right thing and acknowledged soccer and F1, but then steered the conversation towards the more relevant, fertile ground of US sports where the audience would be able to provide many more examples.

hello, exactly. like in curling, the dude with the broom is wicked important and prestegious. and the bull fighter (matador), don't forget the bull fighter.

[led37zep]

I heard soccer is a girl sport.




:devil2:

[mikeyboy]

THIS POST SHOULD BE IN ALL CAPS.



(this has been an experiment.... because i am confused about this function of the board)

ok now it works.

i may be losing my mind but last week i couldn't make any all caps posts.

such as: SSWA.

ok .
i need nap. :down:

Here's a tip. You can make a post in all caps provided that there is at least one character that is not in caps, at least I think that's it. It works thar way with thread titles also. It's a feature that vBulletin has to prevent those ALL CAPS TYPERS WHO DO IT ALL THE TIME...

[KingGeno]

Here's a tip. You can make a post in all caps provided that there is at least one character that is not in caps, at least I think that's it. It works thar way with thread titles also. It's a feature that vBulletin has to prevent those ALL CAPS TYPERS WHO DO IT ALL THE TIME...

No more spoiler-type, Mikey? I thought it made you mysterious and elusive....

[led37zep]

No more spoiler-type, Mikey? I thought it made you mysterious and elusive....


You're going to ruin it.

[IMSlacker]

YOU CAN ALSO TYPE IN ALL CAPS IF YOU CHANGE YOUR FONT!!!

[mendyweiss]

what was your point then? that american are lazy and cant train for soccer?


or is it that soccer is not "all-american" like sweet nascar.

because there is a lot of soccer teams around just not that major yet in this diluted country

Since Mendy Jr. Joined His Travel Soccer Team Three Years Ago, He Is Now Fluent In Spanish !! Although When A Pretty Girl Walks Down THe Street, He Yells"Mommy, Mommy Mommy " !!!!

[drjoek]

Couple of great surfing docs

Step into Liquid(2003)
Riding Giants (2004)

[KingGeno]

Think Fez should look into a nice longboard, and just get out there and let loose.

[hexy68]

http://www.digitalfreak.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/ak02p4.jpg

[RAAMONE]

Couple of great surfing docs

Step into Liquid(2003)
Riding Giants (2004)

funny...could also be porn titles

[MisterSmith]

Why is it a shame that the Olympics are not getting any buzz? I'm happy that Beijing is not getting its chance to have its "No, we're a real country now, not just a bunch of fascist thugs" dog n pony show. Fuck them.

What really sucks is that TV coverage of the Olympics has ruined the games for most Americans and made it a non-event.

All the coverage being USA-centric is ridiculous. NBC will cut away from the finals of an event to watch some schlub from the US place 43rd in hopscotch. And they generally just show highlights on the main broadcasts leaving the rest of the coverage to pay-per-view (in the past) or a sub-network (like USA Network will be this time).

In a time where National Pride is arguably at an all-time low, the Olympics are going to be a TV ratings blunder.

[steps off of his soap box]

[FunkyDrummer]

Couple of great surfing docs

Step into Liquid(2003)
Riding Giants (2004)

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[PD]

What really sucks is that TV coverage of the Olympics has ruined the games for most Americans and made it a non-event.

All the coverage being USA-centric is ridiculous. NBC will cut away from the finals of an event to watch some swchlub from the US place 43rd in hopscotch. And they generally just show highlights on the main broadcasts leaving the rest of the coverage to pay-per-view (in the past) or a sub-network (like USA Network will be this time).

In a time where National Pride is arguably at an all=time low, the Olympics are going to be a TV ratings blunder.

[steps off of his soap box]

I disagree - not with the idea that our coverage sucks, but I don't think that is why we no longer care.

Back in ye old days (70's) you had few channels and you had shows like Wide World of Sports that made us know who the top skiers/track stars/swimmers are. Now we have many more options so we no longer pay attention.

[KingGeno]

Fez just got faced. I expect we will hear about it right after this break.....

[MisterSmith]

Ooooooooooohhhhhhhh! Earl is going to catch hell for that one. :wallbash:

[OGC]

What really sucks is that TV coverage of the Olympics has ruined the games for most Americans and made it a non-event.

All the coverage being USA-centric is ridiculous. NBC will cut away from the finals of an event to watch some schlub from the US place 43rd in hopscotch. And they generally just show highlights on the main broadcasts leaving the rest of the coverage to pay-per-view (in the past) or a sub-network (like USA Network will be this time).

In a time where National Pride is arguably at an all-time low, the Olympics are going to be a TV ratings blunder.

[steps off of his soap box]

The main reason I don't give a shit about most of the olympic coverage is the "human interest stories" that they spend so much time on.

I tune in to watch the competition, not some feel good story about the athlete's crippled dog.

[MisterSmith]

I disagree - not with the idea that our coverage sucks, but I don't think that is why we no longer care.

Back in ye old days (70's) you had few channels and you had shows like Wide World of Sports that made us know who the top skiers/track stars/swimmers are. Now we have many more options so we no longer pay attention.

And I agree with you to an extent. It was a lot easier when there were 4 choices and you watched whatever they gave you to watch. However, the poor coverage has certainly put a damper on the response of the general public.

And I don't have anything to back up my points because they are largely based on the memory of articles, complaints, etc. after the last few Olympic games. It just seems that if the Olympics were presented as an International Event rather than "let's showcase how great the US is" then people would like it better. It is OK to have a US slant to coverage, but to virtually ignore the international flavor of the event is kind of ridiculous.

[drjoek]

Agree with Ron, Laird Hamilton is awesome.

[KnoxHarrington]

Radio Psychic: ABC finally kills Nightline, gives Leno the 11:30 slot. Kimmel gets shifted back to 12:30.

[MisterSmith]

The main reason I don't give a shit about most of the olympic coverage is the "human interest stories" that they spend so much time on.

I tune in to watch the competition, not some feel good story about the athlete's crippled dog.

I agree totally. The only caveat to that is some of the historical pieces they do about the host country. During the Winter Olympics in Norway there were some awesome pieces about the country and its history. Especially the stories about WWII and the underground movement/attacks in Norway, which were excellent.

[Baby DEW Year]

Ooooooooooohhhhhhhh! Earl is going to catch hell for that one. :wallbash:

No mention after break. What happened??

[drjoek]

Dave is an Idiot
Jay Leno has always been this guy He doesn't work blue he is what you see on the air

[KnoxHarrington]

Dave is an Idiot
Jay Leno has always been this guy He doesn't work blue he is what you see on the air

Yeah, that does seem the least likely of the scenarios presented. I'm liking the Fox choice: you'd even have the option to start the show at 11, since most Fox affiliates run their late news at 10.

[OGC]

I agree totally. The only caveat to that is some of the historical pieces they do about the host country. During the Winter Olympics in Norway there were some awesome pieces about the country and its history. Especially the stories about WWII and the underground movement/attacks in Norway, which were excellent.

I love historical pieces too, but you know what, I can see those anytime on the History Channel. The Olympics come around every couple of years, cover the sports and on the off years go with the history.

[chili]

just giving Jimmy Fallon a show is a bad idea.

[KnoxHarrington]

A preview of Fallon's show:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/bboP-the-beast/funny%20shit/1207099610594aq5.jpg

[biggestmexi]

east side hottub is more like east side tagless.

[Friday]

Think Fez should look into a nice longboard, and just get out there and let loose.

sexy

[led37zep]

just giving Jimmy Fallon a show is a bad idea.

Jimmy Fallon is not funny and he almost ruined Band of Brothers for me.


I still haven't forgotten that Jimmy!!!!!

[KingGeno]

Fallon is gonna be so bad. Ten minutes of show, 40 minutes of him smiling and laughing at himself. Can't take this guy seriously.

[MisterSmith]

I love historical pieces too, but you know what, I can see those anytime on the History Channel. The Olympics come around every couple of years, cover the sports and on the off years go with the history.

I am with you on this. However, there are occasionally breaks in action where I would rather see a piece on the host country rather than some talking heads (a-la Sports Center) talking about crap I don't care about. There is enough of that going on during the events.

[skyscraper]

shouldn't japanese suicides be the ichiban?

[FunkyDrummer]

shouldn't japanese suicides be the ichiban?

No, it would be...
http://lexnews.free.fr/carlottaharakiri.jpg

[Recyclerz]

Will the next caller named Joe PLEASE tag Ronnie's line "Hey Joe, where you going with that phone in your hand?" with some attempt at a joke that follows up on the lyric?

eg: I'm going to call my old lady. I caught her texting another man.

or something funny.

edit. Damn I type slow.

[skyscraper]

for juliana's sake, dave should get suicide insurance and then do the right thing.

[PD]

I know I'm late with this but I loved

Ronnie"Welcome Mat"

[Drunky McBetidont]

i don't like life insurance. it is a situation where you are betting money you will die and some company is covering your bets saying you will live. it is bad kharma

[drjoek]

:nono:for juliana's sake, dave should get suicide insurance and then do the right thing.
:nono:

way over the line

[led37zep]

for juliana's sake, dave should get suicide insurance and then do the right thing.

Stop it.

[KnoxHarrington]

i don't like life insurance. it is a situation where you are betting money you will die and some company is covering your bets saying you will live. it is bad kharma

So is leaving your family with thousands and thousands of dollars in debts.

It's so ridiculously cheap, comparatively speaking, that there's no excuse to not get it.

[PD]

i don't like life insurance. it is a situation where you are betting money you will die and some company is covering your bets saying you will live. it is bad kharma

true; however it's when you are concerned about your family.
(or a whole life, which is also a savings plan)

[chili]

for juliana's sake, dave should get suicide insurance and then do the right thing.

ichiBANNED

[FunkyDrummer]

I know I'm late with this but I loved

Ronnie"Welcome Mat"

Loved when Fez would chuckle at that...

[led37zep]

Don't underestimate the benefits of good gym shoes.

[KnoxHarrington]

true; however it's when you are concerned about your family.
(or a whole life, which is also a savings plan)

I've always heard that whole life insurance is kind of a scam: you can just buy a term life policy and then put the money in savings that are much cheaper and pay better.

[skyscraper]

see, he even SAID he would kill himself. I stand by my statement.

[PD]

I've always heard that whole life insurance is kind of a scam: you can just buy a term life policy and then put the money in savings that are much cheaper and pay better.

scam is a strong word.
you'd have to crunch numbers-its possible you can buy term and set up a savings policy to offset payments and save money, but that doesn't make it a scam. It's like setting up your weekly deductions so that you owe (a small amount of money) to the IRS, and then pay with savings vs. putting down less deductions and getting money back from IRS at end of year.

with whole life you actually stop paying at some point as well.

[PD]

Misery vs Joy?
NY Jets.

[led37zep]

I'd love a baseball version of this.

[led37zep]

I don't know if I've ever met a fan of the cards in my life.

[hexy68]

where are Philly Eagles?

[KnoxHarrington]

The Cardinals are one of those teams where the problem is the owner, and there's nothing you can really do about it. When that's the situation, it's such a miserable experience, and it's hard to stay excited about the team.

I'd say the overall worst team to be a fan of is the Chicago Blackhawks. Their old owner -- who died recently -- wouldn't even allow home games to be on TV.

[RhinoinMN]

Vikings Fez?

[skyscraper]

where are Philly Eagles?

in Philadelphia.:lol:

[KnoxHarrington]

I'd love a baseball version of this.

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates

Basketball (NBA): Best -- Los Angeles Lakers
Worst -- Atlanta Hawks

Hockey: Best -- Detroit Red Wings
Worst -- Chicago Blackhawks

[AlabamaMan]

Football talk is always funny:huh:

[RhinoinMN]

Vikings = Touchdown Tommy Kramer.

[Warren Peace]

Vikings = Touchdown Tommy Kramer.

Vikings = Fran Tarkenton

[AlabamaMan]

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates

Basketball (NBA): Best -- Los Angeles Lakers
Worst -- Atlanta Hawks

Hockey: Best -- Detroit Red Wings
Worst -- Chicago Blackhawks

Okay but what about college foot ball?

Best: Alabama Crimson Tide
Worst: Duke Blue Devils

[RhinoinMN]

Vikings = Fran Tarkenton

Please let me mock my home team.

[led37zep]

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates


Pirates as the worst or all time? They won two series in the 70's. I'd say before they moved the Expos.

Although being a giants fan isn't easy.

[PD]

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates



Not the pirates.

Cubs would be worse than Pirates; remember they pirates had the "we are family" teams.

not Expos either; they had winners in late 70s-early 80s

[Freakshow]

I don't understand, they do allow people from places where the team moved?

The titans should have been Earl Campbell by far, but it was McNair???

[led37zep]

Okay but what about college foot ball?

Best: Oregon Ducks
Worst: Duke Blue Devils

I like it!

[Drunky McBetidont]

buffalo bills still the juice?

[RhinoinMN]

Pirates as the worst or all time? They won two series in the 70's. I'd say before they moved the Expos.

Although being a giants fan isn't easy.

I was gonna say that the Expos would give em a solid run.

[sailor]

if not al davis, madden would be face of raiders.

[schabadoo]

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates

Basketball (NBA): Best -- Los Angeles Lakers
Worst -- Atlanta Hawks

Hockey: Best -- Detroit Red Wings
Worst -- Chicago Blackhawks

I would think the Celtics would be much better.

[sailor]

Baseball: Best -- Probably the New York Yankees
Worst -- Pittsburgh Pirates

Basketball (NBA): Best -- Los Angeles Lakers
Worst -- Atlanta Hawks

Hockey: Best -- Detroit Red Wings
Worst -- Chicago Blackhawks

la clippers worst ever

[RAAMONE]

buffalo bills still the juice?

scott norwood

[sailor]

the people of green bay

[hexy68]

spoken like a true Philadelphian Ronnie!...Dallas is the devil's team :thumbdown:

[Freakshow]

The redskins actually would have a lot of debate. Sonny Jurgenson, Joe Gibbs. Hell even Art Monk or Charles Mann could get in the conversation.

[skyscraper]

I was gonna say that the Expos would give em a solid run.

the expos are still a joke as the nationals, so I say they should be considered. they have spread their misery across two cities in two countries, and in two languages.

[RAAMONE]

n/m

[Freakshow]

ewww. What were the Saints thinking?

[KnoxHarrington]

I think that image of Shockey sullenly boozing it up in a luxury box during the Super Bowl pretty much ended his time with the Giants.

[epo]

Shockey enjoyed the Super Bowl. Didn't you see him drinking in the luxury box during the game?