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angrymissy
07-21-2008, 08:31 AM
My dog won't go to the bathroom on my tiny front lawn. So every day I walk him up and down the street. He never pisses in peoples yards. He pisses on the little strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street. Which is, technically town property. I always pick up his shit.

I even purposefully walk him on different sides of the street hoping he will pee in all different areas. Well, there is one guy w/ a big dog who barks when Pronto walks by, and for some reason dog barking = instant pee for Pronto.

This dogs crotchety old owner started yelling at me today when he saw Pronto pee. "Your dog always pisses here, my dog pisses in the street goddammit, take your dog somewhere else". I tried explaining how his dog barking sets off Pronto's pee, but he kept yelling and I just said sorry and moved along.

Last week the next door neighbor said he stepped in dog shit and was going to put poison on his lawn, and "whatever happens, happens". I pick up after my dog, I'm diligent about it. I don't even walk the dog in that direction. I even have a gay ass bag dispenser on the end of his leash. There are 3 or 4 other dogs in the neighborhood that get out and run around all the time. I suspect it's probably THEIR shit, but WTF my dog is still basically being threatened.

First of all, WTF, is with my asshole passive aggressive psychotic pet hating neighbors? I feel like I can't walk my dog down a sidewalk anymore (and am starting to notice, there are shitloads of dogs on my street, but they never get walked).

Second of all, please someone tell me - how do you train your dog to go in one spot? I've seen the neighbor dogs do it. The owner opens the door, dog goes to the curb/lawn, goes and comes back in. I would freaking LOVE to have my dog do that. I don't want to deal w/ psychotic neighbors. Pronto wants to be WALKED to go. Even when he's desperate to piss/shit, he still walks around for like 5-10 minutes before doing anything, and short of dragging him mid piss off of the grass, I don't know how to redirect him to piss elsewhere.

TheMojoPin
07-21-2008, 08:34 AM
Oh man, dogs all peeing in the same place would be great. The fuckin' dog piss fogs hovering around the city during the steamy summer suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

angrymissy
07-21-2008, 08:38 AM
For a while, I carried a bottle of water with me and would pour it on his piss to dilute it - but I don't think it will make a difference with these people. I'm hoping someone, anyone who is a dog owner will know how to train the dog to go in one spot, because at this point, I'm ready to fucking put the dog in the car and drive to the park for his walks/pees before someone poisons him.

I'd LOVE if he'd go in my yard. I don't even know if I can even trust him going in MY yard, because god forbid he wanders too close to Mr. Assholepoisonmylawn neighbors grass and gets fucking killed.

Knowledged_one
07-21-2008, 08:58 AM
Just as a different side to the story

I walk my akita on the weekends and shes 75 lbs. Pretty much everyone loves my dog, so one day i was talking to one of the neighbors and my dog proceeded to shit in his lawn and he was like dont worry about it i will pick it up

Gotta love that midwest mentality

Doogie
07-21-2008, 09:03 AM
Well first off, the fact that the guy is threatening you and your dog like that is a crime. I may not be 100% on the ball with this but putting poisons down requires some sort of permit, especially in a neighborhood like yours. You cant have uncontrolled poisons laid around where anyone can come into contact with it both physically or in an airborne fashion. I would report his ass to the DEC and the local town board just cause this guy is a douche but also cause threats with poison is menacing in the third degree. You cant threaten people or animals with poison. That is a crime.

Now as to the thing of training the dog to go in one place. Do you know your dogs threshold before they absolutley have to go pee? For some dogs it is going bonkers by the door...for others it is a consistent whining. Figure out when your dog HAS TO go to the bathroom then take him outside and wait by an area you want to designate for him. When the dog has to go, he will. And eventually he will go in an area you want to designate.

When we frist brought in my dog, she was a bit of a ghetto beast and always went to the bathroom on the pavement as opposed to the grass. So we walked her on a leash to a point where she had no choice but to go on the grass. It takes some time and patience, but eventually your dog will go to the bathroom where you want him too.

angrymissy
07-21-2008, 09:05 AM
Just as a different side to the story

I walk my akita on the weekends and shes 75 lbs. Pretty much everyone loves my dog, so one day i was talking to one of the neighbors and my dog proceeded to shit in his lawn and he was like dont worry about it i will pick it up

Gotta love that midwest mentality

I'm way jealous of that. I'm ready to move somewhere where I don't have to ever see my neighbors. What's fucked up is, we're good neighbors to everyone. When we did landscaping work and had extra nice rocks, we offered them to and gave them to neighbors, we had a computer we were going to sell and just gave it to the other neighbors, neighbors cat was missing for 2 months, I found it and took it to the vet before I could contact him... I mean, I actually try REALLY hard to be respectful to everyone and get shit on by crotchety old assholes and bitter divorcees.

Meanwhile, other people let their dogs run free and shit everywhere and I get blamed for it, because I'm the one they see outside with the dog.

angrymissy
07-21-2008, 09:14 AM
Well first off, the fact that the guy is threatening you and your dog like that is a crime. I may not be 100% on the ball with this but putting poisons down requires some sort of permit, especially in a neighborhood like yours. You cant have uncontrolled poisons laid around where anyone can come into contact with it both physically or in an airborne fashion. I would report his ass to the DEC and the local town board just cause this guy is a douche but also cause threats with poison is menacing in the third degree. You cant threaten people or animals with poison. That is a crime.

Now as to the thing of training the dog to go in one place. Do you know your dogs threshold before they absolutley have to go pee? For some dogs it is going bonkers by the door...for others it is a consistent whining. Figure out when your dog HAS TO go to the bathroom then take him outside and wait by an area you want to designate for him. When the dog has to go, he will. And eventually he will go in an area you want to designate.

When we frist brought in my dog, she was a bit of a ghetto beast and always went to the bathroom on the pavement as opposed to the grass. So we walked her on a leash to a point where she had no choice but to go on the grass. It takes some time and patience, but eventually your dog will go to the bathroom where you want him too.

Pronto whines and growl/barks when he has to go. I've waited a few minutes until he is desperate and then taken him out, he still waits until he is walked. I'm going to try just standing outside with him on leash on my small lawn and hope he goes.

I'm ready to fucking move, I feel like I can't enjoy a walk down the street in my own fucking neighborhood.

Jennitalia
07-21-2008, 09:14 AM
this is another reason why i'm a crazy cat gal. changing litter is so much easier to deal with than the dog walking thing.

Knowledged_one
07-21-2008, 09:16 AM
I can believe it, the last time i was in NY (my brother used to live in queens) the people there just would let the dogs crap in the streets and just walk away and not pick it up. It really does suck to have neighbors like that.

When i last lived in MD, our neighbors had us written up twice for dog noise. This lady would walk in and out of her house all day, so the dogs would hear that and bark, they never barked during the night or early morning it was just during the day when we were all at work. And thats the thing about akitas is they are very home territorial so she and the hound dog would hear the lady going in and out and start barking. She was the worst neighbor i have ever had

You guys do sound like good neighbors its a shame people just suck the energy out of you with how they act

JPMNICK
07-21-2008, 09:17 AM
fuck what they say, just do whatever. it is not illegal what you are doing.

CofyCrakCocaine
07-21-2008, 09:30 AM
this is another reason why i'm a crazy cat gal. changing litter is so much easier to deal with than the dog walking thing.

I might not want to admit this, but I actually walk a mainecoon cat on a leash like he were a dog on a regular basis. He'll shit while you wak him, but the nice thing is that he looks for some out of sight place, digs holes, craps in them, then buries them so no one knows.

Doogie
07-21-2008, 09:34 AM
Pronto whines and growl/barks when he has to go. I've waited a few minutes until he is desperate and then taken him out, he still waits until he is walked. I'm going to try just standing outside with him on leash on my small lawn and hope he goes.

I'm ready to fucking move, I feel like I can't enjoy a walk down the street in my own fucking neighborhood.

Ahhhh it is just your one douchey neighbor. Dont fret too much about it... Like I said, stay in an area till that dog has to go to the bathroom. He will go when he has no choice. It may take a while and require some patience, but eventually you will be able to get him to go to the bathroom where you want him to go.

Ohhh and just some food for thought what you neighbor did:
A person is guilty of menacing in the third degree when, by physical
menace, he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another
person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical
injury.

Caseyelan
07-21-2008, 09:35 AM
People hate happiness.
I mean, you look at pronto and you hate him cause he is so cute and happy.

Same thing when I see missy...

I fucking hate her... cause she is always smiley.

*WINK*

angrymissy
07-21-2008, 09:43 AM
Ahhhh it is just your one douchey neighbor. Dont fret too much about it... Like I said, stay in an area till that dog has to go to the bathroom. He will go when he has no choice. It may take a while and require some patience, but eventually you will be able to get him to go to the bathroom where you want him to go.

Ohhh and just some food for thought what you neighbor did:
A person is guilty of menacing in the third degree when, by physical
menace, he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another
person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical
injury.


Nah, this is ANOTHER neighbor now! The poison Pronto guy next door, and now some new angry guy down the block.

Yeah... I don't know if he actually put poison out. But I could definitely call the police - and I will if he says something again. I didn't call the police the first time because he was vague in the way he said it, and would have probably just told them "oh, I was going to treat my lawn for bugs" or something like that.

angrymissy
07-21-2008, 09:44 AM
People hate happiness.
I mean, you look at pronto and you hate him cause he is so cute and happy.

Same thing when I see missy...

I fucking hate her... cause she is always smiley.

*WINK*

hah. I think I agree with this. Considering the people I've had issues with are the rotten old men living alone.

LaBoob
07-21-2008, 10:10 AM
Don't let your neighbors bully you. If I were you I would avoid the sidewalk area of the two angry neighbors, and I would call the authorities about his poison threat ...my family had a dog who was poisoned by someone my dad pissed off... we could never prove what happened, so hearing your neighbor threaten this makes me want to bring my dog to his house to crap and piss on his lawn every single day.

I would be livid if I were in your situation... messing with me is one thing, but messing with my dog??? :furious::furious::furious:

MobCounty
07-21-2008, 10:32 AM
My dog loves to mark other dogs territory too. It's funny as hell when an annoying neighborhood dog starts barking at mine (who rarely barks) and he takes a big shit right in their yard. To me, its a trade. My lack of sleep is your newly found turd.

As far as the old farts, I also try not to provoke asshats with too much spare time on their hands. If your dog won't piss in your yard, he does not have to go bad enough and he's just working you to get more walkies'.. Let him sit on it for a few hours/days, he'll go.

Freakshow
07-21-2008, 10:44 AM
I would just avoid this guy's house, even though it's city property, is that a possibility? I think forcing the dog to wait until it really has to go seems a little cruel. But maybe that is just me.

A.J.
07-21-2008, 10:50 AM
Considering the people I've had issues with are the rotten old men living alone.

Ooooh. My ears are burning!

lleeder
07-21-2008, 12:39 PM
I have a dog problem as well. My dog is very scared of the leash . When I put it on him he just sits there in a panic. I can't walk him. If he sees someone else walking down the street he'll follow them with me but once they disappear he stops and just sits there.

lleeder
07-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Oh yea I'm suprised no one said "In your butt".

Knowledged_one
07-21-2008, 12:58 PM
Oh yea I'm suprised no one said "In your butt".

Thats because it is so played out

happytypinggirl
07-21-2008, 06:27 PM
wow what a douchebag

SatCam
07-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Well first off, the fact that the guy is threatening you and your dog like that is a crime. I may not be 100% on the ball with this but putting poisons down requires some sort of permit, especially in a neighborhood like yours. You cant have uncontrolled poisons laid around where anyone can come into contact with it both physically or in an airborne fashion. I would report his ass to the DEC and the local town board just cause this guy is a douche but also cause threats with poison is menacing in the third degree. You cant threaten people or animals with poison. That is a crime.

Now as to the thing of training the dog to go in one place. Do you know your dogs threshold before they absolutley have to go pee? For some dogs it is going bonkers by the door...for others it is a consistent whining. Figure out when your dog HAS TO go to the bathroom then take him outside and wait by an area you want to designate for him. When the dog has to go, he will. And eventually he will go in an area you want to designate.

When we frist brought in my dog, she was a bit of a ghetto beast and always went to the bathroom on the pavement as opposed to the grass. So we walked her on a leash to a point where she had no choice but to go on the grass. It takes some time and patience, but eventually your dog will go to the bathroom where you want him too.

This sounds like a good idea. I have one dog that cant hold his pee at all. We can let him out right when we get home and he'll take a nice long piss right out front (great for the floor --- not so great for the grass). He is so used to it it is pretty much guaranteed. My other dog can hold her piss for a day, so it usually takes a lot of walking before she squats. I think it all has to do with routine.

SinA
07-21-2008, 07:55 PM
screw your neighbors.
well....
there is a value to having a good relationship with your neighbors, but that door swings both ways. it sounds like you're doing all the right things by them, but they're being jackasses.

you could train your dog to go on command. that's one of the first things most working dogs are trained to do (a blind/disabled person can't just walk around wondering when the dog will go). still, your dog needs the exercise, so even if they go on your yard you'll still want to give it a walk.

sidenote - my adorable little lab pees at the edge of the yard with her back paws in the grass and her front paws on the curb. depending on where she lines up it's might not be on the grass, in which case it gets all over her feet.

ahhdurr
07-21-2008, 08:22 PM
Your dog says Hai! That's funny. Hai sensei!

Maybe treats? My two fat sausages with legs love treats and if they associate something with a treat (even being choked out I suspect) they'll endure it.

angrymissy
07-22-2008, 09:53 AM
He happily pissed and shat on my grass yesterday after being rewarded with turkey... but will not do it today. Hopefully I can get him into the habit.

On a assholeneighborwhopoisonsdogs update... While I was on MY lawn today waiting for Pronto to go... I noticed on the strip of grass by the sidewalk, in front of his house, a GIANT pile of dog shit. I mean, mastiff sized shit. My dog weighs 15 lbs on a good day. This shit probably weighed more than him.

I picked it up because I don't want the fucking drama. But it's obviously someone else's dog shitting all over the place.

Next time I will have to document the shit size w/ a photo.

SinA
07-22-2008, 10:00 AM
He happily pissed and shat on my grass yesterday after being rewarded with turkey... but will not do it today. Hopefully I can get him into the habit.

On a assholeneighborwhopoisonsdogs update... While I was on MY lawn today waiting for Pronto to go... I noticed on the strip of grass by the sidewalk, in front of his house, a GIANT pile of dog shit. I mean, mastiff sized shit. My dog weighs 15 lbs on a good day. This shit probably weighed more than him.

I picked it up because I don't want the fucking drama. But it's obviously someone else's dog shitting all over the place.

Next time I will have to document the shit size w/ a photo.

yes, pics. every thread needs pics.

flipper21
07-22-2008, 10:24 AM
Where the fuck is my dog supposed to piss?

On topless_mike?

underdog
07-22-2008, 12:28 PM
Are you sure they didn't see the "Proto Hates You" icon before and took it personally? I still think Proto hates me. :down:

undressa
07-22-2008, 01:47 PM
stay strong and do what u were doing before. It doesn't sound like you were doing anything wrong. Don't feel bad. Take it from me, sometimes no matter what you do, people just suck.

keep your chin up when you walk your dog, and when these rude people say these things to you just say "thank you " and keep walking

Bestinshow
07-22-2008, 02:29 PM
The absolute best way to properly housetrain a dog, trust me on this, its not cruel., is a dog crate.Despite what novices will tell you , dogs do not hate crates as they are naturally den animals and in the wild sleep in confined areas because it makes them feel safe. In your case, your dog was not brought up with a crate so it will take getting used but the crate actually will becoem his safe haven. Now here is where the training comes in. A dog will not go to the bathroom where they sleep. You leave him in there for several hours before he has to go but obviously dont leave him too long to where he cant hold it. In your case, its easy since hes 15 pounds. You carry him from the crate to the spot where you want him to go. Since he is busting he will go immediatately. you heap him with praise(Which is very important) and give him a treat for a reward. He will get in no time that is what you want and will continue to do so. Also use a phrase at the same time that he will associate with going to the bathrooom such as go potty. Since he is already going , he will associate the phrase which is being reinforced with the praise and treat. I actually pretty much have trained my dogs to go on command. Once he is trained, its up to you to continue to use the crate but I find it a useful tool for when i travel with him(Her) in my case, because its safer and easier in hotels.

angrymissy
07-28-2008, 05:45 AM
Pronto is 100% crate trained - I'm just having issues trying to get him to pee/shit in a specific spot (my lawn, or side of house on gravel would be even better).

Dog shit update:

This morning, as I woke up and went downstairs, I saw one of the dogs a neighbor up the street has casually walking down the street (this dog gets out a lot). I then saw him go right on my neighbors lawn, squat, and take a huge dump.

I picked it up and the dog ran home. I have picked up 4 giant dumps at various places on the street in the past week while walking the dog.

WTF. I like those neighbors better than Mr. Poisonyourdog, but I don't want to get fucking blamed again for neighbor stepping in dog shit (especially considering the shit is larger than Pronto's head).