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Zorro
07-25-2008, 10:07 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_chi ld_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193

Vice Presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards was caught visiting his mistress and secret love child at 2:40 this morning in a Los Angeles hotel by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/update_john_edwards_affair_criminal_complaint_file d/celebrity/65209

NATIONAL ENQUIRER reporters Alan Butterfield and Alexander Hitchen filed a criminal complaint with the Beverly Hills Police Department on Thursday, July 24, charging that hotel security acted unlawfully while the reporters were trying to question the former senator.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391426,00.html

NATIONAL ENQUIRER reporters Alan Butterfield and Alexander Hitchen filed a criminal complaint with the Beverly Hills Police Department on Thursday, July 24, charging that hotel security acted unlawfully while the reporters were trying to question the former senator.

LAT Gags Blogs: In a move that has apparently stirred up some internal discontent, the Los Angeles Times has banned its bloggers , including political bloggers, from mentioning the Edwards/Rielle Hunter story. Even bloggers who want to mention the story in order to make a skeptical we-don't-trust-the-Enquirer point are forbidden from doing so. Kausfiles has obtained a copy of the email Times bloggers received from editor Tony Pierce. [I've excised the recipient list and omitted Pierce's email address]:

From: "Pierce, Tony"

Date: July 24, 2008 10:54:41 AM PDT

To: [XXX]

Subject: john edwards

Hey bloggers,

There has been a little buzz surrounding John Edwards and his alleged affair. Because the only source has been the National Enquirer we have decided not to cover the rumors or salacious speculations. So I am asking you all not to blog about this topic until further notified.

If you have any questions or are ever in need of story ideas that would best fit your blog, please don't hesitate to ask

Keep rockin,

Tony



Is it true? Does it matter?

Dan 'Hampton
07-25-2008, 10:28 AM
It seems odd it's still sticking around....

epo
07-25-2008, 11:54 AM
I know that some don't like Edwards brand of politics, but seriously this is a non-story until the source is something other than the National Enquirer.

TeeBone
07-25-2008, 11:59 AM
this is a non-story until the source is something other than the National Enquirer.

Non-Story?-----This prick WAS a potential VP candidate. Remember the, 'Two Americas' shit he dealt out? What a fuck this clown is. Parading his cancer ridden wife around the campaign trail. Go to hell, Edwards!!!!

led37zep
07-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Oddly enough I only care about a story like this when it helps my guy win.




:devil2:

epo
07-25-2008, 12:04 PM
Non-Story?-----This prick WAS a potential VP candidate. Remember the, 'Two Americas' shit he dealt out? What a fuck this clown is. Parading his cancer ridden wife around the campaign trail. Go to hell, Edwards!!!!

Yes, this is a non-story until there is some form of proof. Until then it's celebrity-style paparazzi bullshit. You may not like his politics, but this is no more a story than the Enquirer claiming bullshit like "Bush is on coke again". In both cases, this is NOT news.

Get over it. As soon as there is proof, then you can open the flood gates.

epo
07-25-2008, 12:05 PM
This prick WAS a potential VP candidate.

And let me state for the millionth time.....VP candidate? Realistically, no he wasn't. The man is electoral death.

FezsAssistant
07-25-2008, 12:12 PM
Burden of proof doesn't stop the liberal media from printing anything about conservatives.

Ever notice when the AP actually rarely reports a negative story about a democrat that they don't mention that he/she is a democrat until the last paragraph of the story (after everyone has given up on the story)? If it's a republican, it's mentioned in the first paragraph.
Just a little thing I noticed.

TheMojoPin
07-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Burden of proof doesn't stop the liberal media from printing anything about conservatives.

Ever notice when the AP actually rarely reports a negative story about a democrat that they don't mention that he/she is a democrat until the last paragraph of the story (after everyone has given up on the story)? If it's a republican, it's mentioned in the first paragraph.
Just a little thing I noticed.

Somehow I have a feeling this weighs up abut as much as the "what I see means more than the stats" argument in baseball.

"Liberal media" FTL.

underdog
07-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Somehow I have a feeling this weighs up abut as much as the "what I see means more than the stats" argument in baseball.

David Eckstein is a better ball player than A-Rod.

IMSlacker
07-25-2008, 12:32 PM
David Eckstein is a better ball player than A-Rod.

SSJM











































(so says joe morgan)

Recyclerz
07-25-2008, 12:41 PM
The dames over at Slate are taking it pretty seriously.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/


The accusations are pretty specific and the Enquirer did get most of the salicious stuff about Monica-gate right, so I can't write off the story just because of the source. If it is true, it is a good thing for the Dems it popped up now before more serious speculation about what role Edwards would play in an Obama administration (Attorney General?) made it into the mainstream dialog.

Outside families don't play too well for politicians in our country, especially when your wife is semi-iconic and dying of cancer.

keithy_19
07-26-2008, 02:16 AM
This is the only place I get my news from. So far they've been dead on about everything they print.

http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/Dick%20Cheney%20robot%20heart%20Weekly%20World%20N ews.JPG

Bishop Barbee
07-26-2008, 03:07 AM
I'd kill for that hair.

razorboy
07-26-2008, 03:48 AM
Love Child, Never meant to be, Love Child, Scorned by Society, Love Child, Always second best, Love Child , Different from the rest


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NewYorkDragons80
07-26-2008, 04:15 AM
The mainstream media hasn't picked this up because it's just kinda nasty. Even if it's true, exposing John Edwards now is pointless and cheap.

MadMatt
07-26-2008, 08:11 AM
I expected more of something like this from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2494/00000810babyedwardstn9.jpg

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

TheMojoPin
07-26-2008, 08:50 AM
http://www.giaever.com/op_premambo/transmet/14smiler01_250pw_q0.JPG

HBox
07-26-2008, 09:12 AM
David Eckstein is a better ball player than A-Rod.

He has a little something I like to call grit that you won't find in any stat.

underdog
07-26-2008, 09:13 AM
He has a little something I like to call grit that you won't find in any stat.

A true gamer.

TheMojoPin
07-26-2008, 09:33 AM
His heart and hustle are off the charts.

HBox
07-26-2008, 09:43 AM
His heart and hustle are off the charts.

I find his lack of melanin most appealing.

TheMojoPin
07-26-2008, 09:46 AM
I find his lack of melanin most appealing.

Well, it's been scientifically proven that that ties into the amount of belly fire one may posses.

KnoxHarrington
07-26-2008, 11:23 AM
To me, the most interesting thing about this story is how it throws into sharp focus how the "MSM" has lost control of news reporting. I mean, you've got the LA Times explicitly forbidding its staff to write about it in any way. It hasn't been mentioned on any of the network evening news shows, as far as I know, and a quick persual of CNN.com's Politics page shows no mention of it. But it's out there as wide as any other political story now.

So I think the election comes down to who can use this fact better. Who senses the new media landscape more accurately?

epo
07-26-2008, 12:19 PM
To me, the most interesting thing about this story is how it throws into sharp focus how the "MSM" has lost control of news reporting. I mean, you've got the LA Times explicitly forbidding its staff to write about it in any way. It hasn't been mentioned on any of the network evening news shows, as far as I know, and a quick persual of CNN.com's Politics page shows no mention of it. But it's out there as wide as any other political story now.

So I think the election comes down to who can use this fact better. Who senses the new media landscape more accurately?

Knox, you get the gold star for the day.

The difference in media compared to 5 years ago, is a completely different animal. Essentially, the traditional media used to drive the narrative of the day. That message would then go to the web/bloggers who would discuss it. Now the stories start on the web/blogs and get vetted before they hit the traditional media.

A smart political communicator will understand this and take advantage of it. An example of this would be the Clinton/Bosnia story. That was on the blogs and got vetted for nearly a week before it hit the press.

Zorro
07-26-2008, 01:45 PM
Knox, you get the gold star for the day.

The difference in media compared to 5 years ago, is a completely different animal. Essentially, the traditional media used to drive the narrative of the day. That message would then go to the web/bloggers who would discuss it. Now the stories start on the web/blogs and get vetted before they hit the traditional media.

A smart political communicator will understand this and take advantage of it. An example of this would be the Clinton/Bosnia story. That was on the blogs and got vetted for nearly a week before it hit the press.


Epo I love you and your posts, but fot he sake of all mankind can we stop using the word "vetted"...?

Zorro
08-01-2008, 06:57 AM
Sort of Update


http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1161218.html

KingGeno
08-01-2008, 07:02 AM
I TRIED to call into the show about this a few days ago, and well.......

He sure knows how to pick some beastly women, ya?

foodcourtdruide
08-01-2008, 07:02 AM
Burden of proof doesn't stop the liberal media from printing anything about conservatives.

Ever notice when the AP actually rarely reports a negative story about a democrat that they don't mention that he/she is a democrat until the last paragraph of the story (after everyone has given up on the story)? If it's a republican, it's mentioned in the first paragraph.
Just a little thing I noticed.

Yeah, remember when they completely ignored the Lewinsky and Reverend Wright stories?

foodcourtdruide
08-01-2008, 07:05 AM
He has a little something I like to call grit that you won't find in any stat.

Though I have absolutely no knowledge of his pre-game rituals or how much he practices daily... he TRIES harder.

epo
08-01-2008, 07:09 AM
Yeah, remember when they completely ignored the Lewinsky and Reverend Wright stories?

I read that John Kerry was a French war traitor!

Seriously, the media isn't liberal or conversative. The "media" is an understaffed corporation that finds the sexiest story that will sell the best. The days of a fully-staffed well-edited news organization is sadly dead at the current moment.

Zorro
08-01-2008, 07:49 AM
I read that John Kerry was a French war traitor!

Seriously, the media isn't liberal or conversative. The "media" is an understaffed corporation that finds the sexiest story that will sell the best. The days of a fully-staffed well-edited news organization is sadly dead at the current moment.

I agree on the understaffed part, but I think this story has been ignored because it really doesn't mean anything...and..I think not to be overlooked is that media really like and feel sorry for Elizabeth Edwards. The woman is dying of cancer, so why embarrass her.

If Edwards were actually running for something then this would be an issue, but he's sort of a has been and by sitting on the fence during the primaries he drained whatever pull he might have had in the Democratic Party.

Zorro
08-06-2008, 08:53 PM
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1167499.html

RALEIGH - Former Sen. John Edwards might have to move quickly to save his spot on the national stage.
With two weeks before their national convention, several prominent Democrats are saying Edwards must publicly address anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories that claim he had an affair with a campaign worker and fathered her baby.

Stankfoot
08-07-2008, 01:18 AM
Non-Story?-----This prick WAS a potential VP candidate. Remember the, 'Two Americas' shit he dealt out? What a fuck this clown is. Parading his cancer ridden wife around the campaign trail. Go to hell, Edwards!!!!

Who does he think he is?
Newt Gingrich?

linky (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/09/gingrich.schneider/)

"Gingrich's first marriage ended after he discussed the details of the divorce with his wife while she was recovering from cancer surgery. He married again in 1981 and was divorced in 2000, when he married the young congressional aide with whom he had the affair."

Zorro
08-08-2008, 10:59 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5441195&page=1

epo
08-08-2008, 11:22 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5441195&page=1

Goodbye John.

K.C.
08-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Goodbye John.

He wasn't gone beforehand??????

He was never going to run for or win elected office again.

Besides, affairs don't kill public careers (unless he pulled a McGreevy).

At worst, it hurts his chances at getting the Attorney General appointment, but as long as the kid isn't his and he does his best Billy Graham impersonation, it'll blow over, and he'll be fine.

Zorro
08-08-2008, 11:37 AM
He wasn't gone beforehand??????

He was never going to run for or win elected office again.

Besides, affairs don't kill public careers (unless he pulled a McGreevy).

At worst, it hurts his chances at getting the Attorney General appointment, but as long as the kid isn't his and he does his best Billy Graham impersonation, it'll blow over, and he'll be fine.

Disagree...this ends any hope of a political appointment. It's one thing to fool around something different to fool around when your wife is dying of cancer. Not going to be a lot of forgivness going around.

epo
08-08-2008, 11:38 AM
He wasn't gone beforehand??????

He was never going to run for or win elected office again.

Besides, affairs don't kill public careers (unless he pulled a McGreevy).

At worst, it hurts his chances at getting the Attorney General appointment, but as long as the kid isn't his and he does his best Billy Graham impersonation, it'll blow over, and he'll be fine.

You are right that he was gone from elected office, but he definitely cost himself a federal appointment for the next election cycle or two. At that point...who knows?

K.C.
08-08-2008, 11:48 AM
Ehhhh...we'll see.

You're probably right that he cost himself a first term appointment if Obama wins, but I'm not 100% convinced of that.

If it's just an affair, this story will be buried pretty quickly, with the VP appointments likely to come any day, the Olympics, and the Conventions right after that.

He'll do his 20/20 exclusive and break down about how sorry he is, and then disappear for the rest of the election cycle.

They'll weigh the potential backlash of involving him in an administration, I'm sure.



Now, if it comes out later that the child is his....he instantly becomes political kryptonite.

Zorro
08-08-2008, 12:21 PM
Ehhhh...we'll see.

You're probably right that he cost himself a first term appointment if Obama wins, but I'm not 100% convinced of that.

If it's just an affair, this story will be buried pretty quickly, with the VP appointments likely to come any day, the Olympics, and the Conventions right after that.

He'll do his 20/20 exclusive and break down about how sorry he is, and then disappear for the rest of the election cycle.

They'll weigh the potential backlash of involving him in an administration, I'm sure.



Now, if it comes out later that the child is his....he instantly becomes political kryptonite.

Do not underestimate the power of the cancer wife. Women are going to hate him for this.

epo
08-08-2008, 12:26 PM
Do not underestimate the power of the cancer wife. Women are going to hate him for this.

He could be relegated to Gary Hart type status at this point. And quite frankly he would deserve it and maybe more.

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 12:38 PM
The Story:
Edwards admits to extramarital affair
But the former presidential candidate says he didn't father her child
BREAKING NEWS
The Associated Press
updated 4:25 p.m. ET, Fri., Aug. 8, 2008
WASHINGTON - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman's daughter.

Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn't love her. He said he has not taken a paternity test but knows he isn't the father because of the timing of the affair and the birth.

A former Edwards campaign staffer claims he is the father, not Edwards.

Hunter's daughter, Frances Quinn Hunter, was born on Feb. 27, 2008, and no father's name is given on the birth certificate filed in California.

The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.

"The story is false," he told reporters. "It's completely untrue, ridiculous."

Enquirer reported story in July
The Enquirer carried another story last month, stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child's birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters' inquiries, as did his former top aides.

In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News' "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hotel last month.

Most mainstream news organizations refrained from reporting the story, but newspapers in Charlotte and Raleigh, N.C., recounted the Enquirer's allegations in prominent articles on Thursday.

Edwards acknowledged the affair on Friday afternoon, traditionally a slow-news period even when the Olympic Games' opening ceremonies are not preoccupying millions of Americans.

Edwards was a top contender for the Democratic nomination for president, pursuing his party's nod even after announcing that his wife, Elizabeth, had a deadly form of cancer.

He placed second in the Iowa caucuses last January but dropped out of the race a few weeks later. He has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential choice for Barack Obama. The former North Carolina senator was the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2004.

David Bonior, Edwards' campaign manager for his 2008 presidential bid, said Friday he was disappointed and angry after hearing about Edwards' confession.

"Thousands of friends of the senator and his supporters have put their faith and confidence in him and he's let them down," said Bonior, a former congressman from Michigan. "They've been betrayed by his action."

'You can't lie in politics'
Asked whether the affair would damage Edwards' future aspirations in public service, Bonior replied: "You can't lie in politics and expect to have people's confidence."


In 2006, Edwards' political action committee paid $100,000 in a four-month span to a newly formed firm run by Hunter, who directed the production of just four Web videos, one a mere 2 1/2 minutes long.

The payments from Edwards' One America Committee to Midline Groove Productions LLC started on July 5, 2006, five days after Hunter incorporated the firm in Delaware.

Midline provided "Website/Internet services," according to reports that Edwards' PAC filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Midline's work product consists of four YouTube videos showing Edwards in informal settings as he prepares to make speeches in Storm Lake, Iowa, and Pittsburgh, as he prepares for an appearance on "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and travels in Uganda in 2006.

Edwards' PAC followed the six-figure payment with two smaller payments totaling $14,461, the last on April 1, 2007.

At the time Hunter was compiling the videos in 2006, Edwards was preparing a run for president.

Episode One of the four videos captures a conversation between Edwards and an unseen woman as the two chat aboard a plane about an upcoming speech in Storm Lake, Iowa.

Cutting between clips of the speech and the conversation with the woman, Edwards touches on his standard political themes, declaring that government must do a better job of addressing the great issues of the day, from poverty and education to jobs and the war in Iraq.

'Great moral issues'
"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues — yes, me a Democrat using that word — the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."

The sound track for the six-minute video is the song "True Reflections" which begins with these words: "When you look into a mirror, do you like what's looking at you? Now that you've seen your true reflections, what on earth are you gonna do?"

The video entitled "Plane Truths," opens with Edwards relaxing in his seat on the plane, telling the unseen woman that "I actually walked the country to see who I am, who I really am, but I don't know what the result of that will be.

Edwards adds: "But for me personally, I'd rather be successful or unsuccessful based on who I really am, not based on some plastic Ken doll that you put up in front of audiences, that's not me, you know?"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26095810?GT1=43001



This is so indicitive of the wasteland that the DNC has become.

8 years ago Joe Lieberman was their No 2 man when the war was popular - 4 years later he was pushed out of the Party with no support from his fromer Party buddies.

4 Years ago Edwards was their No2. and look what we have here.

How the Hell are Americans supposed to trust a Party that can't even nominate decent people, and what does this say about their choice for Obama?

Burying your heads in the sand ala LA Times edict is not working.

The words of Ronald Wilson Reagan come to mind. When asked why he left the Democratic Party, he replied, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party - They left me."

As Linda Ellerbee always used to say, 'and so it goes....'

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 12:43 PM
Anyone remember that open mic comment between Billary and Edwards at the first Primary Debate for this election about limiting the time of the other candidates?

And to think his wife went on Chris Matthews and ate shit royale defending him on that mess at the exact same time his concubine was 6 months pregnant?

I can't wait to hear her outspoken response to this jewel.

Knowledged_one
08-08-2008, 12:45 PM
well im no democrat lover but you could say the same thing about the republicans and JC Watts

That guy was going to be ther Republican golden boy and you hear nothing about him now.

And no chance Obama can give Edwards a post, if his message is its time for a change then how does appointing John Edwards constitute any kind of change

epo
08-08-2008, 12:55 PM
The Story:



This is so indicitive of the wasteland that the DNC has become.

8 years ago Joe Lieberman was their No 2 man when the war was popular - 4 years later he was pushed out of the Party with no support from his fromer Party buddies.

4 Years ago Edwards was their No2. and look what we have here.

How the Hell are Americans supposed to trust a Party that can't even nominate decent people, and what does this say about their choice for Obama?

Burying your heads in the sand ala LA Times edict is not working.

The words of Ronald Wilson Reagan come to mind. When asked why he left the Democratic Party, he replied, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party - They left me."

As Linda Ellerbee always used to say, 'and so it goes....'

Anyone remember that open mic comment between Billary and Edwards at the first Primary Debate for this election about limiting the time of the other candidates?

And to think his wife went on Chris Matthews and ate shit royale defending him on that mess at the exact same time his concubine was 6 months pregnant?

I can't wait to hear her outspoken response to this jewel.

Thanks for the lecture Blowhard.

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 01:05 PM
well im no democrat lover but you could say the same thing about the republicans and JC Watts

That guy was going to be ther Republican golden boy and you hear nothing about him now.

And no chance Obama can give Edwards a post, if his message is its time for a change then how does appointing John Edwards constitute any kind of change

Was that JC Watts story too? an affair? So disappointing.

Why do smart people do dumb things?
I've been asking myself that all of my life, and I thought it was only me.:flush:

K.C.
08-08-2008, 01:05 PM
And no chance Obama can give Edwards a post, if his message is its time for a change then how does appointing John Edwards constitute any kind of change

Because he'd be a progressive, populist, attorney general, which is a definitive change from the likes of Gonzales, Ashcroft, and Janet Reno.



But he's probably out....if this was a Clinton White House, they'd ram him through by any means necessary, because they know how to deflect scandals.

Obama's pretty slick about making sure people don't drag him down with them (i.e. Rev. Wright), so he'll probably effectively cut ties with Edwards for a while.

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the lecture Blowhard.

Yeah I do like that guys rhetoric on the calls.

He comes off a bit insane, and so do I probably; but you have to love his passion for the topic.

One thing about me EPO is that I come off as more hardened than I really am.
I already made my mind up months ago that Obama gets my vote because I think America can benefit from having a Black man in the job, and frankly nothing about McCain really gets me excited.

I'm very conservative internally; but I have never been what one can consider a Republican. I kinda look at things in the manner that society needs freedoms, and choices; but individuals need discipline and morality. If that even makes sense.

Bottom line is I think orange, and then vote blue for the common good.

K.C.
08-08-2008, 03:28 PM
The one last thing I'll say about this:

I think it's a general sense in the political world, that Edwards is, like Epo said, electoral death.

In addition to that, most people think he's more or less always been a weak candidate.

In a sense I guess that is true.

But I've always seen Edwards as a guy who's VASTLY overachieved, and a guy who's very political savvy.


When you think about it, he's a guy who's extremely liberal economically when it comes right down to it, but won a senate seat in one of the most conservative states in the country.

Then, he basically finished a strong enough second in 2004 to force himself on to the ticket, despite essentially being a lame duck senator who wasn't going to win re-election, and did it against some pretty strong candidates,

And then, in a race he had absolutely NO business getting any heat in, because he hadn't held elected office in three years, and was essentially non-existent on the National stage, he hung in for a while against two absolute political juggernauts in Clinton and Obama, and if not for a late Obama surge in Iowa, really could have potential front-run his way in to Super Tuesday.


My point is that he's almost Bush-like in that people for some reason have extremely low expectations of the guy, and yet he seems to always play a role.

I wouldn't underestimate his ability to not only deflect this, but come out of it fairly unscathed.

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 07:09 PM
The wife knew, and she stood on stages and lied right along with him.

He could have completely torched the Party had he been more successful early on.

Unforgiveable in the larger scheme of things, and I bet the average Dem detests him before the week is out.

I'm far more disappointed in Mrs. Edwards role in all of this; I thought she was genuine.
I expect my politicians to lie for some sad reason.

There are a lot of questions about money, and campaign jobs, and Elizabeth lying, and this really sucks because the convention is only two weeks out now.

CNN is wall to wall on this tonight; somebody needs to find a Mitt Romney love child, and quick!

Zorro
08-08-2008, 07:31 PM
Would have thought if you were going to blow a future she'd be better looking.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/10_hunter_lgl.jpg

BinaryBimbo
08-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Just a heads up that the Nightline interview that broke this story mainstream is coming on in a few minutes.

I just noticed the sticky asking not to post entire stories; sorry to all offended earlier with my full story posts.

epo
08-08-2008, 09:27 PM
While I have no time for Edwards because I think he is electoral death, I have a serious question:

How is Edwards cheating on his wife any different that John McCain cheating on his first wife?

Zorro
08-09-2008, 05:42 AM
While I have no time for Edwards because I think he is electoral death, I have a serious question:

How is Edwards cheating on his wife any different that John McCain cheating on his first wife?

I understand the desire to find a moral equivalence, but it's not there. Edwards paraded Elizabeth around...he...not the press brought her into the public and used his marriage as a political tool. It's not the cheating on the wife that makes the story interesting its the hypocrisy. People cheat all the time...relationships end...it happens. But when you drag your wife into the campaign and make your relationship with her part of your platform then cheat...it's all on you.

Zorro
08-09-2008, 06:38 AM
...that youtube sucks...here's the text version...when speaking about the Clinton affair



"I think this president has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

epo
08-09-2008, 07:13 AM
...that youtube sucks...here's the text version...when speaking about the Clinton affair

That quote is certainly a dagger.

BinaryBimbo
08-09-2008, 09:30 AM
While I have no time for Edwards because I think he is electoral death, I have a serious question:

How is Edwards cheating on his wife any different that John McCain cheating on his first wife?


Timing

Time heals all wounds, and the American people generally agree that folks can grow out of previous misgivings.

Circumstances

McCain wasn't the last VP candidate or running for President when his trangressions took place. The convention is in two weeks, and this story doesn't look to cool down a whole lot by then because it sure appears that Edwards didn't give the full story in his 'revelation' to Nightline.

The Paternity Test

Even if she would agree, and I doubt she will, when do those test results come out? Two weeks? I dunno; but what a distraction if that train gets rolling.

I watched the interview last night, and I have a couple of observations. One he came off as a complete douche thanking Woodward for coming as if he had just dropped in for tea. He was neither grateful he came nor happy to see him. Two he used the same lie? to explain away the love child as he did to explain away the affair leading up to this, "That's just tabloid journalism".

I have another question. He said the last hotel meeting was just to talk with her to allieviate some fears/concerns she had. That takes almost 6 hours? In the middle of the night?

This revelation was not planned - he intended to make it go away at least until the election was over; but he got caught hiding in a bathroom a couple weeks ago, and the story would not be explained with "tabloid journalism lies" in this case.

There are bigger issues this has brought up as well, and the silent majority will be influenced greatly by them. One is the code of silence and official 'head in the sand' policy that the LA Times was exposed employing here. Two the fact that ABC, and NBC, along with the Associated Press Failed to mention his Party Affliation when they finally did report the story. Americans detest that sort of biased reporting, and they will rightly conclude that the media is in the tank for the DNC now that it is so obvious. Three is the hush money no matter who is proven to be behind it - ultimately it is Edwards responsibility that his people paid the coin because they worked for him and did it in his interest. Four, and this is a biggie, it appears that his concubine was being cared for until his wife dies from the terminal cancer, and that is just plain creepy whether Elizabeth approved of it or not.

NewYorkDragons80
08-09-2008, 10:05 AM
McCain has been pretty open about the whole thing. I'm sure he doesn't want to see additional light on it, but he's the first to say he was stupid and selfish. McCain says he ran to serve America. Edwards said he ran for his family.

Zorro
08-09-2008, 04:37 PM
The thing that bothers me about Edward's statement was not the he was wrong to cheat, but he was wrong to think he could get away with it.
So you don't cheat on your wife because you'll get caught not because it's wrong?

BinaryBimbo
08-09-2008, 06:07 PM
The thing that bothers me about Edward's statement was not the he was wrong to cheat, but he was wrong to think he could get away with it.
So you don't cheat on your wife because you'll get caught not because it's wrong?

Yeah nothing like stating the obvious on his part anyway.

The other woman apparently is indeed refusing the paternity test; this is the absolute worst outcome. No one is buying this now.

We have to hope he doesn't do something selfish like kill himself now.

Somehow this story needs to fade in the next two weeks.

badmonkey
08-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Edwards blamed the affair on the adulation surrounding his remarkable rise into presidential politics.

"I went from being a senator, a young senator to being considered for vice president, running for president, being a vice presidential candidate and becoming a national public figure. All of which fed a self-focus, an egotism, a narcissism that leads you to believe that you can do whatever you want. You're invincible. And there will be no consequences."

Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife's cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter. Elizabeth Edwards has since been diagnosed with an incurable form of the disease.


Nice, real nice. Excuses and then finally a "hey, it's not like my wife was sick when i did it! her cancer was in remission!" What a douchebag.

Recyclerz
08-13-2008, 05:59 PM
Nice, real nice. Excuses and then finally a "hey, it's not like my wife was sick when i did it! her cancer was in remission!" What a douchebag.

Agreed.

However, to give Edwards a little competition for the gold in douchebaggery Rush Limbaugh 'splains the probable cause of John Edwards' adultery: Elizabeth Edwards didn't give enough skull.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/rush-limbaughs-mouth.html

Classy, all around.

Zorro
08-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Agreed.

However, to give Edwards a little competition for the gold in douchebaggery Rush Limbaugh 'splains the probable cause of John Edwards' adultery: Elizabeth Edwards didn't give enough skull.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/rush-limbaughs-mouth.html

Classy, all around.

In my world Rush Limbaugh does not exist

badmonkey
08-17-2008, 09:48 AM
Agreed.

However, to give Edwards a little competition for the gold in douchebaggery Rush Limbaugh 'splains the probable cause of John Edwards' adultery: Elizabeth Edwards didn't give enough skull.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/rush-limbaughs-mouth.html

Classy, all around.

OMG! STFU! I am outraged!!! The horror the horror! I cannot beleive that somebody on the radio would make such a tasteless joke like that! They should be FIRED! FIRED I SAY!!!
:unsure:

scottinnj
08-18-2008, 07:38 PM
The wife knew, and she stood on stages and lied right along with him.

Maybe she's making a run for the Senate.

epo
08-13-2009, 02:54 PM
According to various reports, former Senator John Edwards will admit that he's the father of the love child.... (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/13/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5240760.shtml)

Former North Carolina Senator and Democratic Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards is expected to admit that he is the father of the 18-month-old daughter of former mistress Rielle Hunter, sources tell CBS affiliate WRAL.

Edwards acknowledged the affair last summer but has previously denied that he fathered the child, whose name is Frances.

As WRAL notes, longtime Edwards aide Andrew Young initially claimed paternity but is now writing a book in which he will say Edwards is the girl's actual father.

This guy is unbelievable...

Gvac
08-13-2009, 02:55 PM
According to various reports, former Senator John Edwards will admit that he's the father of the love child.... (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/13/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5240760.shtml)



This guy is unbelievable...

Fucking Democrats.

red_red_red
08-13-2009, 02:57 PM
According to various reports, former Senator John Edwards will admit that he's the father of the love child.... (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/13/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5240760.shtml)



This guy is unbelievable...
he shoulda gave baby mama $3000 for "health insurance"

epo
08-13-2009, 03:00 PM
Fucking Democrats.

Which is better than being an Intercourse-free Republican.

Get on the bed, you damned hippie!

keithy_19
08-13-2009, 10:16 PM
I know this is pretty much impossible, but I would love to see him run for president in
2012.

A.J.
08-14-2009, 03:46 AM
Edwards acknowledged the affair last summer but has previously denied that he fathered the child, whose name is Frances.

I guess Frances made him lighten up.

TheMojoPin
08-14-2009, 10:53 AM
I know this is pretty much impossible, but I would love to see him run for president in
2012.

Why?

epo
08-14-2009, 11:32 AM
Why?

Keithy is trying to prove that he knows absolutely nothing about politics.

TheMojoPin
08-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Keithy is trying to prove that he knows absolutely nothing about politics.

It always amused the people who harped on Obama's "lack of experience" because "he hasn't done anything" and then would turn around and say they'd want or wouldn't mind Edwards as a candidate.

Furtherman
08-14-2009, 01:27 PM
He'd make a great used car salesman.

keithy_19
08-17-2009, 03:48 PM
Why?

I don't like Edwards. I was jsut thinking it would be comical if he still thought he had a chance. If he was pompous enough to actually run.

Sheesh you people take things too literal.