2012 and Planet X

[sr71blackbird]

I ask, o science gurus, is there anything at all to this? Will the world end in 2012 as the Maya predicted and be due to the arrival of a new planet on a 4000 year orbit?

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[booster11373]

The Mayans dont know shit because thet werent even around to see 1712 much less 2012

[oldladyfacepuncher]

I ask, o science gurus, is there anything at all to this? Will the world end in 2012 as the Maya predicted and be due to the arrival of a new planet on a 4000 year orbit?

Yes.

[Willmore]

Hasn't anyone told you? The world's already ended, we are simply the cosmic burp after the dinner.

[midwestjeff]

cosmic burp

Great band name.

[jonyrotn]

I ask, o science gurus, is there anything at all to this? Will the world end in 2012 as the Maya predicted and be due to the arrival of a new planet on a 4000 year orbit?I really feel like you just stole a half an hour from me..That's not how friends treat one another..

[furie]

One thing you have to ask yourself when viewing something like this is: What are they trying to sell me on? If this was about science, what's with the social commentary?

Tiamat or Nibiru are not out there.

There existed perturbation in the orbits of the outer planets when using Newtonian physics. But we now live in a post-Einstein world.

These guys have mixed planet X theories with the theory of "Nemesis" Sol's dark companion.

[Furtherman]

The planet Nibiru!!!! They're coming to mine our gold!!!!

[bobrobot]

I'm running up my credit cards really high and anxiously awaiting this!!!

http://markontheworld.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/the-end.jpg

[keithy_19]

I've been really interested in the topic for a little while, and I don't know what to make of it. Scientists tend to shy away from saying exactly what they think will happen. My question is, is 2012 eally the end? Or is it just another doomsday theory that won't pan out.

[Drunky McBetidont]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71821

i thought this topic lock familiar

merge please

[Foster]

I've been really interested in the topic for a little while, and I don't know what to make of it. Scientists tend to shy away from saying exactly what they think will happen. My question is, is 2012 eally the end? Or is it just another doomsday theory that won't pan out.

I'll bet you a cool billion we make past 2012.

[WCDMXNAS]

heres the best theories ever

A. we Die
B. we Super Evolve into better beings (The Last Time the mayan calendar ended, humans showed up)
C. Nothing



just sit on one of those 3,

[burrben]

i wouldnt mind the world ending in 2012.

on december 21, 2012 my friends and i are planning on dropping acid. we're going out in style

[WCDMXNAS]

Acid? why not Mushrooms or DMT?


or better yet, why not mix acid and Mushrooms

[burrben]

Acid? why not Mushrooms or DMT?


or better yet, why not mix acid and Mushrooms

you know, i like the way you think

[cougarjake13]

the world ended on dec 31 1999

we're all in the matrix

[Drunky McBetidont]

i wouldnt mind the world ending in 2012.

on december 21, 2012 my friends and i are planning on dropping acid. we're going out in style

count me in

[Willmore]

It's about 30 years too soon, but there are predictions of a technological singularity - a point in time when we develop computers with AI smarter than us, who will then be able to create even smarter AIs to the point where they are nearly infinitely more advanced than us. At which point we turn into either a leisure society that enjoys the benefits of such advanced machines serving us, or they destroy us.

[ahhdurr]

I ask, o science gurus, is there anything at all to this? Will the world end in 2012 as the Maya predicted and be due to the arrival of a new planet on a 4000 year orbit?

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no but that would be AWESOME!!!!!!! <a href="http://www.tvdance.com/fun-blog-tools/"><img src="http://www.tvdance.net/images/images_one/chrisfarley-images_3.gif" border="0"></a>

[Willmore]

Oh, and by the way, the planet X thing is bullshit as far as we know. There are theories that there could be a red dwarf or a brown dwarf somewhere beyond the kuiper belt that is on a highly elliptical orbit to the sun, but there is no proof that it exists, just guesswork. Even if one existed, it wouldn't be here by 2012, more like 20,000,000 C.E..

Also, the Mayan calendar is just as bullshit. The Mayans had several calendars and this one doesn't really end, as much as it cycles over. Just like when a year ends, there is no end of the universe, it is simply the next year, day 1. In the mayan calendar, the date is not represented as a day, a month and a year, but as a number of total days since the beginning of the calendar in the mayan vigesimal system (not out familiar decimal, so 20 numbers, not 10). So yesterday was not July 29th, 2008, it was 12.19.15.9.12

That is 12 times 1, 9 times 20, 15 times 360, 19 times 7200, 12 times 144000 days.

So, since the beginning of the calendar, there have been 1870392 days.


Not a very momentous date. Why is December 21, 2012 so important? That's the date when the calendar switches to 13.0.0.0.0 .... ooooh, spooky? Almost as spooky as the year 2000. Nothing will happen, everybody chill.

[WCDMXNAS]

who gives a shit if you are skeptical, because if it actually happens, what are people going to say to you "haha you were wrong" and then you die? but if your right you get to say "haha told you so bitches"


so its probably best to not giev a shit at all, i mean who gives a shit if its inevitable

[keithy_19]

so its probably best to not giev a shit at all, i mean who gives a shit if its inevitable

That's the kind of attitude that allows the Mayans to win and kill us all. Traitor!

:smoke:

[Furtherman]

There is a theory that our sun is part of a triple star system along with Polaris A & B.

Polaris A & B rotate around each other. It's a cycle that takes thousands of years. When they come close together, the gravimetric forces will effect our sun, therefore our solar system, and Earth.

This is a correlation between mankind's civilizations rising and falling within these cycles.
2012 starts a new cycle. It's also the peak of the sun's sunspot cycle, and there is a good chance for a solar storm, which will fry every electrical object on the planet, knocking us back to the stone age.

And guess what? The Pole star comes to life again. (http://www.physorg.com/news135871831.html)

It's a fascinating theory covered in the book Lost Star Of Myth And Time. (http://www.loststarbook.com/excerpt.shtml)

http://www.loststarbook.com/images/book_photo.jpg


It's just a theory, but the next few years should get interesting.

[Knowledged_one]

the world ended on dec 31 1999

we're all in the matrix

I hear ya brother i think i took the wrong colored pill though

[furie]

There is a theory that our sun is part of a triple star system along with Polaris A & B.

Polaris A & B rotate around each other. It's a cycle that takes thousands of years. When they come close together, the gravimetric forces will effect our sun, therefore our solar system, and Earth.

This is a correlation between mankind's civilizations rising and falling within these cycles.
2012 starts a new cycle. It's also the peak of the sun's sunspot cycle, and there is a good chance for a solar storm, which will fry every electrical object on the planet, knocking us back to the stone age.

And guess what? The Pole star comes to life again. (http://www.physorg.com/news135871831.html)

It's a fascinating theory covered in the book Lost Star Of Myth And Time. (http://www.loststarbook.com/excerpt.shtml)

http://www.loststarbook.com/images/book_photo.jpg


It's just a theory, but the next few years should get interesting.

Dude, Polaris is 500 light years away.
Mercury has more of an effect on the sun than Polaris

[paracetamol flanders]

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Mainly for the beginning bit...

[Furtherman]

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[Dougie Brootal]

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i for one can not wait.


Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.
Learn to swim.
Learn to swim.

Mom is going to fix it all soon,
Mom is coming round to put it back
the way it oughtta be...

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all these gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna see it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

edit: just wanted to add that the only thing i fear about this is that i wont have enough warning to get to my chick so we can be together when it all comes down. im a hopeless romantic.

[skyscraper]

the world was supposed to end in the year 1000. then 2000. the mayans didn't know shit. there are no experts on the future.
as far as discovering a planet with a 4000 year orbit, that is entirely possible. there are lots of bodies in that Kuiper belt that we have yet to discover. but I doubt that its discovery will have anything to do with the end of our world.
suck it Mayans!

[Dougie Brootal]

the world was supposed to end in the year 1000. then 2000. the mayans didn't know shit. there are no experts on the future.
as far as discovering a planet with a 4000 year orbit, that is entirely possible. there are lots of bodies in that Kuiper belt that we have yet to discover. but I doubt that its discovery will have anything to do with the end of our world.
suck it Mayans!

to expand on this thought a little further, it seems that every generation of every culture and society that ever existed thought they were living in the end times. its a very arrogant view to have in my opinion.

[skyscraper]

to expand on this thought a little further, it seems that every generation of every culture and society that ever existed thought they were living in the end times. its a very arrogant view to have in my opinion.

I think it's the opposite of arrogant, more like self-loathing. some people *want* the world to end, and will search for anything they can interpret as a sign that it's coming.
if it happens, it happens. try to make the most of it until then.

[RAAMONE]

There is a theory that our sun is part of a triple star system along with Polaris A & B.

Polaris A & B rotate around each other. It's a cycle that takes thousands of years. When they come close together, the gravimetric forces will effect our sun, therefore our solar system, and Earth.

This is a correlation between mankind's civilizations rising and falling within these cycles.
2012 starts a new cycle. It's also the peak of the sun's sunspot cycle, and there is a good chance for a solar storm, which will fry every electrical object on the planet, knocking us back to the stone age.


actually just a couple hundred years

[KingGeno]

We just don't know until it happens. I studied this a lot a few years back.

At least we will have a Fez/Stalker Patty wedding to look forward to before we are destroyed.

[Dougie Brootal]

I think it's the opposite of arrogant, more like self-loathing. some people *want* the world to end, and will search for anything they can interpret as a sign that it's coming.
if it happens, it happens. try to make the most of it until then.

i never thought of it that way, i always thought by arrogant that we would think we are so powerful that something we did caused the world to give up and die. but i understand your theory too. either way...:unsure:

[paracetamol flanders]

According to Canadian scientist Neil Peart, 2112 is the year to be concerned with.

[Dougie Brootal]

According to Canadian scientist Neil Peart, 2112 is the year to be concerned with.

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[skyscraper]

i never thought of it that way, i always thought by arrogant that we would think we are so powerful that something we did caused the world to give up and die. but i understand your theory too. either way...:unsure:

the arrogance theory, as you put it, is what the ancients thought, that we pissed off the gods and now they were going to end it all. it's also what the global warming folks would have you believe, that we pissed off mother nature by doing such terrible things as having industry, and now we will die for it.