Anyone know a kid toucher?

[sr71blackbird]

I have a niece who is 26 and she has been dating this guy for like 6 years. I like this guy, we always hang out together at family get togethers. We text each other once in a while. We send funny pictures and jokes to each other via the phone or myspace. This niece is in my wifes family and they are mostly 1st generation immigrants. This guy is the only guy at these parties that hangs out with me because everyone else is blabbering away in their native language and me and him are the odd men out who do not understand a word. I always assumed this guy would marry my niece. Well, I have another niece just got married a month ago and these two girls are cousins and the same age.
I texted this guy 2 weeks ago and he tells me he has something serious to tell me.
He tells me him and my niece broke up and I was totally shocked. I tried a few times to ask him why and he never really gave any answer, other than it did not work out.
Throughout the time I new this guy, I also remember that he was always clowning with the little kids. There is one young girl that always hangs on this guy, she is probably like 11 now.
Always asking him to joke around and ride on his shoulders, stuff like that.
Well, after he tells me of the break up, he swears me to secrecy about it, because my nieces family did not know about the break up, but that in a week or so she would break the news. Well, the news finally broke a few days ago and its been like a fire storm, because no ones talking and no one knows why they broke up. Even I do not know.
But I am hearing rumors, and what I am hearing is speculation that he "might" have been caught playing touchy feely with that 11 year old. I never had any indication that he would be like that, but the silence and lack of an explanation is fueling this rumor. I hope its just a rumor for the girls sake, but it seems like no one will ever know unless someone starts talking. The only thing I can think that might have sparked the rumor was at my other nieces wedding, this guy guy hammered and was on the dance floor with that 11 yr old and dancing like a drunk, but thats as far as I can guess, maybe someone read into it, who knows? She was always clinging to him, but it never seemed too odd because her parents were always right there and so was his girlfriend.
Its so strange to me and its shaken me up, but its like, once you hear a rumor, your mind starts to read into stuff that may or may not be true. Since I like this guy, I am hoping its all bullshit and I do hope that they get back together, but of course if it turns out to be true about the 11 year old, I know he has gotta go.

Sorry if this is a scrambled post, but my mind is all over the place with this...

[ahhdurr]

okey dokey - so who'd like pie?

[sr71blackbird]

Also, I have sent him a few texts in the last few days (before I heard this rumor) and he has not replied to me. But there were other times when that happened too. My post is a vent for me.
Sorry also if I chose a bad text title. In 20/20 hindsight it was not the best title. I am really upset.

[Reynolds]

okey dokey - so who'd like pie?

I'll take a slice please, and if you don't mind, I'll be eating it in the other room.

[midwestjeff]

A lot of shit can get thrown around after a bad break up.
Not saying I think it is all bullshit,
but just saying I would suspend judgment
until something concrete is presented.

Wow, sorry, that's not helpful at all.

[sr71blackbird]

Actually is IS helpful!!

[jonyrotn]

We gotta find this fuckin guy! We gotta find this fuckin guy and break his fuckin kneecaps..
We'll break every fuckin finger he's got...We'll break all ten fingers one digit at a fuckin time..
You want answers?!
Where's my ball peen hammer?!
I'll get you some fuckin answers..I'm gonna get you some answers you didn't even have questions for..
I'll rip this mother fucker's throat out..
Let's go, get in the fuckin car!

Gimme my fuckin pie..Please!

[Melissa the Accountant]

A lot of shit can get thrown around after a bad break up.
Not saying I think it is all bullshit,
but just saying I would suspend judgment
until something concrete is presented.

Wow, sorry, that's not helpful at all.

That is actually very solid advice. It's awful to think that someone you like might have done something that you can't morally reconcile with, so I completely understand being really upset in reaction to this. I would be really freaked as well.

It's tough, especially since rumors often assume the worst, but try to maintain a neutral position until you know something more for sure. This situation really sucks. Sorry you guys are having to cope with it, and I hope it works out to be a big misunderstanding. For both his and the kid's sake.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

The closest I've known was that it came out that the grade school bully's father turned out to have kiddie porn on his computer. His Dad ended up vanishing shortly after that and was later found dead.

[Sue_Bender]

My son's mother had some brushes with the law.

[jonyrotn]

The closest I've known was that it came out that the grade school bully's father turned out to have kiddie porn on his computer. His Dad ended up vanishing shortly after that and was later found dead.
Only a Marine could tell a story like that in 35 words..:drunk: Here's to gettin to the fuckin point, ASAP..

[Hottub]

You are in "That's Life: The Forum."

Even on my vacation. Jeez.

Anyway, I would just wait until things come to light before jumping to conclusions.
Innocent until proven guilty, right?

[Devo37]

not quite a toucher, and not quite a kid, but i just felt like reposting this from the How do you picture other board members? (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40687&highlight=picture) thread:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/Devo37/Jezo.jpg

[Hottub]

You are in "That's Life: The Forum."



Last warning.

[ChrisTheCop]

A lot of shit can get thrown around after a bad break up.
Not saying I think it is all bullshit,
but just saying I would suspend judgment
until something concrete is presented.



What Jeff said.

This is why people are afraid to get close to kids, because all it takes is a rumor and suddenly it's fact and theyre evil. If he texted you that he caught her sucking off a donkey, would you automatically believe that too? (hmmm...she was always watching shrek....) If it turns out to be fact, then have at him, but for now, just consider it a breakup. You have no idea what girls have told their families about you after youve left them.

[Devo37]

Last warning.

oops! didn't notice which forum it was (just clicked from the Today's Posts tab).

a co-worker of mine recently found out that one of her former co-workers got arrested for kiddy-porn on his computer. even though i have no idea who the guy is, it kinda weirded me out. a co-worker's former co-worker is only 2 degrees of separation away! i know a girl who knows a guy who got arrested for kiddie porn!!! that's way too close (as opposed to the loner in his mom's basement that i had always imagined the pedo's to be).

[DolaMight]

Yes. When I was a child Dr. Orewick touched my testes and in a sick act of sexual deviance he asked me to cough.... twice.

[Willmore]

The 11 year old was asking for it. I mean really, when those prepubescent little titties are staring at you, and that school uniform with the skirt and high stockings that don't quite go to the scabbed knees. And the underdeveloped boy-butt.

Who wouldn't want to tap that?

[midwestjeff]

Last warning.

The 11 year old was asking for it. I mean really, when those prepubescent little titties are staring at you, and that school uniform with the skirt and high stockings that don't quite go to the scabbed knees. And the underdeveloped boy-butt.

Who wouldn't want to tap that?

Teach this kid a little fuckin' manners.

[PapaBear]

The 11 year old was asking for it. I mean really, when those prepubescent little titties are staring at you, and that school uniform with the skirt and high stockings that don't quite go to the scabbed knees. And the underdeveloped boy-butt.

Who wouldn't want to tap that?
You'd be wise to read Hottub's posts.


I don't know what else to say about your situation BB, other than just wait it out. Whether it happened or not, you'll probably know soon. As for "Anyone know a kid toucher"...

When I was in my early teens, there was a guy who gave hamm radio lessons to some of my friends. Over time, he would take a bunch of them out partying. He'd provide weed and alcohol. I was only around him a few times, until my best friend warned me to stay away from him. He wouldn't say why, but I trusted him and I stayed away.

Right before my high school graduation, it came out that the guy had been "doing things" with a good many of my childhood friends. I don't know the details of what he did, though the police did find lots of photos of my friends in various stages of undress. (EDIT) I just remembered one thing... It came out that the guy would start by taking underwear pics when the kids were drunk and high. The he'd threaten to show the pics to their parents, if they didn't do "more".

It really fucked a lot of my friends up. Some of them were in severe states of depression about having to testify. Fortunately, the same guy who warned me about the guy, ended up talking the perv into pleading guilty to take the pressure off my friends.

Another good thing was word that I got from my brother's friend who was in jail with him. When he first got there, he told the other inmates that he was there for drugs or something like that. My brother's friend said, "That's bullshit. I know why you're really here, and by the end of the day, everyone else will, too."

[weekapaugjz]

Teach this kid a little fuckin' manners.

YEAH! grab the lube...:unsure:

[jonyrotn]

My son's mother had some brushes with the law.
:lol: Hahaha..Sorry Hottub but this made me laugh, hard, out loud..Again, I apologize to anyone who was offended by my laughter..

[RoseBlood]

My son's mother had some brushes with the law.

:lol: Hahaha..Sorry Hottub but this made me laugh, hard, out loud..Again, I apologize to anyone who was offended by my laughter..


I'd be more offended by anyone NOT finding that comment funny... sorry.. but they do say laughter is the best medicine.

[keithy_19]

I'll say that the advice of not jumping to conclusions is the best. It's an odd thing when you talk about pedophiles. If they are guilty, they are some of the worst people alive and should be put away for a long long time. But often things will get thrown around that aren't true, and thus calling someone a pedophile prematurely can really fuck up that persons life.

a co-worker of mine recently found out that one of her former co-workers got arrested for kiddy-porn on his computer.

Was she working for a certain Union County New Jersey freeholder?

[bigredd]

I went to school with a former police officer that was just sentenced to 15 years for posessing and distributing child porn. I didn't know him real well; he was a two years younger than me but I went to junior high and high school with him. Being a former cop and kiddy porn convict, he'll more than likely spend those years in solitary then he'll be supervised for the rest of his life IF he makes it out of the joint.

[BinaryBimbo]

My only brush with it happened and I didn't realize until the guy was busted how close I came to being involved with him.

There used to be a website with tons of OnA downloads, (no sense mentioning it by name I don't think), and the guy contacted me when I set up a website, and offered to help me. I was happy to have any help because I was teaching myself html at the time. So anyway he offered me files if I wanted, and I told him I pretty much could deal with warez/porn/whatever; but I didn't want anything to do with kiddie porn. The comment was just a mindless aside. After that the emails stopped, and I didn't think anything of it until the word came out that he was headed to prison for child porn at his site, or home computer.

The subject came up because I was learning to make a disclaimer page that redirected to the real site, and now I realize that was what attracted him to me. He must have thought I was trying to look legit, and not be, or something like that.

You really never know: this person was often mentioned on OnA, and they plugged his site all the time in the early XM days; then one day they decided to use UPS:wink:, and I have never heard the name mentioned again.

[grlNIN]

I didn't read much beyond the initial post because i have no experience with this BUT when i read the part in your post that said you had texted the ex-boyfriend several times with no answer i thought that you are maybe taking a step too close into the lives of others.

I know he was dating your niece for 6 years and it's ok to be concerned and all but i dont really see you as having any business to confront the boyfriend and send him a bunch of texts. I think you are jumping the gun with all these assumptions and should just leave it alone.

[sailor]

but they do say laughter is the best medicine.


they also say there's a time and a place for everything, and this ain't it.


can you say where the speculation is coming from? is this coming from your niece or the girl's family or what? the source would have to be taken into consideration. if it is from your niece, and you are considering staying in contact with the guy, you might want to chat with her directly.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

My only brush with it happened and I didn't realize until the guy was busted how close I came to being involved with him.

There used to be a website with tons of OnA downloads, (no sense mentioning it by name I don't think), and the guy contacted me when I set up a website, and offered to help me. I was happy to have any help because I was teaching myself html at the time. So anyway he offered me files if I wanted, and I told him I pretty much could deal with warez/porn/whatever; but I didn't want anything to do with kiddie porn. The comment was just a mindless aside. After that the emails stopped, and I didn't think anything of it until the word came out that he was headed to prison for child porn at his site, or home computer.

The subject came up because I was learning to make a disclaimer page that redirected to the real site, and now I realize that was what attracted him to me. He must have thought I was trying to look legit, and not be, or something like that.

You really never know: this person was often mentioned on OnA, and they plugged his site all the time in the early XM days; then one day they decided to use UPS:wink:, and I have never heard the name mentioned again.

For what's it's worth, I read that he got a fairly light sentence; a matter of months rather than years. If that's the case I'd assume he's hardly some kiddie porn kingpin. Not that it makes it a whole lot better, but he probably just had some material rather than making or distributing it.

[BinaryBimbo]

For what's it's worth, I read that he got a fairly light sentence; a matter of months rather than years. If that's the case I'd assume he's hardly some kiddie porn kingpin. Not that it makes it a whole lot better, but he probably just had some material rather than making or distributing it.


Yeah maybe that was all it was. I just found it really odd that it went down that way after the email. He had also just lost parent; talk about a rough year.

[sr71blackbird]

I didn't read much beyond the initial post because i have no experience with this BUT when i read the part in your post that said you had texted the ex-boyfriend several times with no answer i thought that you are maybe taking a step too close into the lives of others.

I know he was dating your niece for 6 years and it's ok to be concerned and all but i dont really see you as having any business to confront the boyfriend and send him a bunch of texts. I think you are jumping the gun with all these assumptions and should just leave it alone.

I guess you did not read it at all, because no where was any of that mentioned. Long before any of this happened he and I would text each other. Thats it.

Tomorrow there is another get together, maybe I will have more info, but the whole point of my post was about either jumping to conclusions, never really "knowing" someone, knowing someone who got caught doing that or something similar to any of this, "being accused", shocked at the finality of the loss of a party buddy, etc.

[ahhdurr]

I guess you did not read it at all, because no where was any of that mentioned. Long before any of this happened he and I would text each other. Thats it.

Tomorrow there is another get together, maybe I will have more info, but the whole point of my post was about either jumping to conclusions, never really "knowing" someone, knowing someone who got caught doing that or something similar to any of this, "being accused", shocked at the finality of the loss of a party buddy, etc.

That clarifies - and sorry, I joked b/c I was confused.

I agree with waiting it out and I know the disappointment of finding out that someone you like is a fucking asshole. Sometimes - if you tend to make things about yourself, you tend to question who you are b/c you got along with such an idiot... I'd say that's just being self serving though. We're each responsible for ourselves.

[Zorro]

Anyone know a kid toucher?

Without reading anyone else's posts my immediate reaction was yup and he died last month.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Yeah maybe that was all it was. I just found it really odd that it went down that way after the email. He had also just lost parent; talk about a rough year.

I believe he was also going through a pretty bitter divorce at the time too. I'd like to think his ex-wife planted that material to get him in to deep shit. It's probably not too likely but I'd prefer to think that over the fact I helped out at the piece of shit's site from time to time.

[BinaryBimbo]

I believe he was also going through a pretty bitter divorce at the time too. I'd like to think his ex-wife planted that material to get him in to deep shit. It's probably not too likely but I'd prefer to think that over the fact I helped out at the piece of shit's site from time to time.

Yep - I want to believe the ex did him in too now that I know about the divorce. That's the sort of deal though where once he was convicted he became kryptonite to everyone else because only he and the ex would know the truth even if that were the case.