What would R&F do

[Knowledged_one]

First I want to say i dont mean this thread to have any hatred towards Dave there are plenty of other threads about that already

But here is a hypothetical:

Mel Karmazian recently said he has to cut about 400 million from the SiriusXM budget (link for reference)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/technology/06radio.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=karmazin&st=cse&oref=slogin

If Mel came to R&F and said that he felt Dave was unnecessary to the success of the show and that in order to renew their contract Dave would have to go.

What do you think R&F would do would they stand up to Mel and demand Dave be included or would they roll with the punch and have to say goodbye to Dave?

Again this is merely hypothetical i just wanted to hear what others thought

[RAAMONE]

hes trying to cut 400 million...i doubt hes worried about the salary of one producer of a show...if anything he'd just get rid of the show all together and that woul;d even be a very small chunk of the 400 mil

[mikeyboy]

First I want to say i dont mean this thread to have any hatred towards Dave there are plenty of other threads about that already

But here is a hypothetical:

Mel Karmazian recently said he has to cut about 400 million from the SiriusXM budget (link for reference)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/technology/06radio.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=karmazin&st=cse&oref=slogin

If Mel came to R&F and said that he felt Dave was unnecessary to the success of the show and that in order to renew their contract Dave would have to go.

What do you think R&F would do would they stand up to Mel and demand Dave be included or would they roll with the punch and have to say goodbye to Dave?

Again this is merely hypothetical i just wanted to hear what others thought

Considering the relative size of Dave's paycheck (as alluded to on the air), this is a pretty dumb hypothetical.

[realmenhatelife]

Do you really thing 27K a year is really going to put a dent in that budget?

[midwestjeff]

I have an easy fix for Mel that could put him up 100 million but I doubt he would listen to me.

[silas]

Considering the relative size of Dave's paycheck (as alluded to on the air), this is a pretty dumb hypothetical.


So only a few, large cutbacks are possible?

C'mon; "restructurings" can and are made up of all sorts of cuts;

Sadly, letting go of many relatively less paid employees is one of the most common post-merger cutbacks.

[mikeyboy]

So only a few, large cutbacks are possible?

C'mon; "restructurings" can and are made up of all sorts of cuts;

Sadly, letting go of many relatively less paid employees is one of the most common post-merger cutbacks.

I find it hard to believe that Dave's salary would be the difference between whether or not Ron & Fez's show was kept, especially when they would still need a producer.

[Boomer]

Here let me try and fix the hypothetical a bit.

Mel has successfully cut $399,973,000.00 dollars from the Sirius/XM budget and has finally made his way in to see Ron & Fez during a broadcast.

He sees the following:

A bunch of dedicated people working for free. (bless their hearts)
Earl. (Can't cut him out or else Ron has to hire "someone" else so that's not helpful.)
Pepper - Doing all of his AND Earl's work. (What a go getter)
Pitzy's empty chair (sniff sniff... a moment of silence)
Ron - whom Mel stands in awe of since he is now so close to a legend.
Fez - Even though he's not "old Fez" he's still THE BEEESSST! So he stays.
And then...
Dave - with half his head shaved, a branded ass, one hand up said ass pulling something out, whilst cupping what may be a penis if it was bigger with the other hand.

He then asks Mr. B to make a choice between staying on the air or getting rid of Dave.

Now when faced with this choice to make will Ron ... ahh fuck it... I can't even bullshit this to work.

Mikeyboy's right...this is just dumb.
:flush:

[mendyweiss]

If Bennington Is Making Less Than 400 mil/ Year, He Is Underpaid !!

[silas]

I find it hard to believe that Dave's salary would be the difference between whether or not Ron & Fez's show was kept, especially when they would still need a producer.


As i understand (or admittedly, maybe misunderstand), the thread;

Is it possible that R+F show stays on post-merger, but with loss of personnel, perhaps ESD.?

The $ cuts that allegedly are being sought post merger could come from many sources;

Some from entire shows and/or stations etc being discontinued/merged etc

Other "savings" could be by trimming staff from showS/stationS etc that do continue (whether in current form or some transformation or merged variant...).

Having those who stay hired just having to take up the slack for cut co-workers is probably one of the most common post-merger consequences.

IMO, the thread unfairly uses ESD as the example; but r+F being asked to continue the show w/less resources doesn't seem like a super long-shot.

[ChrisTheCop]

What if, instead of for budgetary reasons, Mel just wanted the show
to have a Sirius producer?

So he says, we're gonna let go of McDonald and give you "Smith".

Now, consider "Smith" is a true producer and has been involved in several successful shows
in his lengthy career, and is respected in the entertainment community.

Would Ron and Fez then demand to keep Dave?
Or would Ron say his prayers have been answered and he can now have a producer that produces?

[Knowledged_one]

What if, instead of for budgetary reasons, Mel just wanted the show
to have a Sirius producer?

So he says, we're gonna let go of McDonald and give you "Smith".

Now, consider "Smith" is a true producer and has been involved in several successful shows
in his lengthy career, and is respected in the entertainment community.

Would Ron and Fez then demand to keep Dave?
Or would Ron say his prayers have been answered and he can now have a producer that produces?

Thanks for clarifying what i was trying to say buddy

You are a true wordsmith

[jonyrotn]

I have an easy fix for Mel that could put him up 100 million but I doubt he would listen to me.
You should just show up at his house for an impromptu sales pitch and when you get out of jail you should do it again..Doggedness is the key..





Let's quickly do the mathematics..
At $8.00 an hour Dave would have to work only 50 million hours to make $400,000,000.00..
Mel's a fuckin genius..I'd fire Earl too and save $800,000,000..

Numbers crunched!

[BinaryBimbo]

To be honest if Mel did actually listen to the show on a day like today he would assume that one Friday the guy won't make it home from the drunk, and he won't have to make that decision; so why should he piss off his talent, (Ron & Fez)? Or he might just not understand the ESD character, and fire the entire show. He didn't come off that naive when he was on OnA though, and he I really think it all comes down to money with him. In that case this show's ratings should be golden I would think, and so I just don't see him breaking this act up anytime soon.

The first time I heard a show like this one started out, and yesterdays ended with; I was pissed. We get a bit spoiled expecting to be entertained every minute of every show. Invariably what one hates another loves; this would be a classic had it ended with a Big Ass Fight Night, imho, if you know what I mean.

Fez sounded happy; so it is a good day for all of us.

Imagining ESD riding a bus home tonight is a smile and a half.:clap:

[watson]

Mel will move Dave to a new Grunge Rock channel as an on air talent, where he can play Guns N Roses to his hearts delight

[CardiffGiant]

If Bennington Is Making Less Than 400 mil/ Year, He Is Underpaid !!

Post of the year my friend, I fully agree!

[docgoblin]

Mel could slice off a good chunk of that nut by cutting O&A's staff down a bit. I hear there's an army of 'em running around there.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Did Ron and Fez make a stand when they had to move to WJFK and lose Billy and Rory?

[tileslinger]

Mel: "Ron Fez we're going to have to do some cutting of personal and I think we need to get rid of... oh what's that guy's name. Here it is David McDonald."

Ron: "Well o.k.... but you relize Dave is a third mike but we only pay him 27k"

Mel: "Oh I don't have that in my papper work."

[KnoxHarrington]

Keep this in mind: programming like Stern, O&A, and probably R&F and Bubba as well, will be going to "premium tiers" where you'll have to pay for them (unless you buy the "Everything" package.) So that will offset some of the money those channels cost.

The people at Sirius XM who probably shoudl be shit scared are the people who work for music channels. I think there's going to be a lot of cutting there.

[Hottub]

Eddie Trunk, Monday 6 to 10 on The Boneyard.

[ahhdurr]

So he says, we're gonna let go of McDonald and give you "Smith".

Now, consider "Smith" is a true producer and has been involved in several successful shows
in his lengthy career, and is respected in the entertainment community.



Smith? Has Ronnie turned to the side of our robot overlords?
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[biggestmexi]

Considering the relative size of Dave's paycheck (as alluded to on the air), this is a pretty dumb hypothetical.

lol, bacon bits. hehe

[ahhdurr]

What would Ron and Fez do ...
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[tileslinger]

Keep this in mind: programming like Stern, O&A, and probably R&F and Bubba as well, will be going to "premium tiers" where you'll have to pay for them (unless you buy the "Everything" package.) So that will offset some of the money those channels cost.

The people at Sirius XM who probably shoudl be shit scared are the people who work for music channels. I think there's going to be a lot of cutting there.

Considering it's Sirius XM and not XM Sirius I would much rather be working for Hair-Nation than The Bone Yard

[silas]

Considering it's Sirius XM and not XM Sirius I would much rather be working for Hair-Nation than The Bone Yard


Absolutely.....and agree w/ Knoxharrington's post that most cuts probably at music stations.

In the case of The Boneyard etc, i assume that having relatively stronger brand hosts are a plus.

Too bad +2 probably not good for company mergers