You must set the ad_network_ads.txt file to be writable (check file name as well).
2008 Election Polling Thread [Archive] - Page 2 - RonFez.net Messageboard

Log in

View Full Version : 2008 Election Polling Thread


Pages : 1 [2]

HBox
10-24-2008, 02:31 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 53 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +2

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 52 McCain 40

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +2

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 52 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +3

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend Obama +1

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 46 - Trend McCain +1

IBD/TIPP
Obama 46 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +3

Rasmussen
Obama 52 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged

Zogby
Obama 51 McCain 41 - Trend McCain +2


National Polls

Democracy Corps 10/21-10/23
Obama 52 McCain 43

Economist 10/20-10/21
Obama 49 McCain 41


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 52 McCain 40 - Trend Obama +2


State Polls

Georgia - Rasmussen 10/22
McCain 51 Obama 46

Georgia - Politico/Insider Advantage 10/23
Obama 48 McCain 47

Georgia - Strategic Vision 10/20-10/22
McCain 51 Obama 45

Minnesota - Rasmussen 10/22
Obama 56 McCain 41

Indiana - SurveyUSA 10/21-10/22
Obama 49 McCain 45

North Carolina - Winthrop 9/29-10/19
Obama 45 McCain 44

North Carolina - Rasmussen 10/23
McCain 50 Obama 48

South Carolina - Winthrop 9/29-10/19
McCain 55 Obama 35

Virginia - Winthrop 9/29-10/19
Obama 45 McCain 44

Florida - Politico/Insider Advantage 10/22
Obama 48 McCain 47

Florida - Strategic Vision 10/20-10/22
McCain 48 Obama 46

Ohio - Politico/Insider Advantage 10/22
Obama 52 McCain 42

Ohio - Strategic Vision 10/20-10/22
McCain 48 Obama 45

Pennsylvania - Strategic Vision 10/20-10/22
Obama 50 McCain 43

Michigan - EPIC/MRA 10/19-10/22
Obama 51 McCain 37

Oregon - Riley Research 10/10-10/20
Obama 48 McCain 34

Iowa - Rasmussen 10/23
Obama 52 McCain 44

New Hampshire - Rasmussen 10/23
Obama 50 McCain 46

HBox
10-24-2008, 09:24 PM
National Polls

Newsweek 10/22-10/23
Obama 53 McCain 41


State Polls

Ohio - Public Policy Polling 10/21-10/23
Obama 51 McCain 44

epo
10-25-2008, 08:15 PM
A state poll that has been little reported:

Arizona - Myers Research (D) & Grove Insight (D). 10/23-24. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)

Likely voters

McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 40

Early voters (34% of the sample)

McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47

The sample was 40 percent Republican, 33 Democratic, and 26 percent independent.

HBox
10-26-2008, 02:29 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Sat: Obama 53 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 52 McCain 45

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Sat: Obama 52 McCain 40 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 51 McCain 40

Diageo/Hotline
Sat: Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 50 McCain 42

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Sat: Obama 51 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1
Sun: Obama 51 McCain 42

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Sat: Obama 51 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +1
Sun: Obama 52 McCain 43

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Sat: Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 50 McCain 45

IBD/TIPP
Sat: Obama 46 McCain 42 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 47 McCain 43

Rasmussen
Sat: Obama 52 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1
Sun: Obama 52 McCain 44

Zogby
Sat: Obama 51 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1
Sun: Obama 49 McCain 44


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Sat: Obama 53 McCain 41 - Trend Unchanged
Sun: Obama 53 McCain 40


State Polls

Ohio - University of Cincinnati 10/18-10/22
Obama 49 McCain 46 Nader 2 Barr 1

Ohio - University of Akron 9/29-10/19
Obama 45 McCain 41

Colorado - Rocky Mountain News 10/21-10/23
Obama 52 McCain 40 Barr 1 Nader 1

Arkansas - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/21-10/22
McCain 52 Obama 41

South Dakota - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/22-10/24
McCain 50 Obama 41

Tennessee - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/21-10/22
McCain 54 Obama 38

Kentucky - Research 2000 10/19-10/21
McCain 55 Obama 39

Arizona - Myers/Grove 10/23-10/24
McCain 44 Obama 40

Arizona - Zimmerman and Associates
McCain 44 Obama 42

Iowa - Research 2000 10/19-10/22
Obama 54 McCain 39

Iowa - NBC News/Mason Dixon 10/22-10/23
Obama 51 McCain 40

Virginia - Public Policy Polling 10/21-10/23
Obama 52 McCain 43

Georgia - NBC News/Mason Dixon 10/22-10/23
McCain 49 Obama 43

Missouri - NBC News/Mason Dixon 10/22-10/23
McCain 46 Obama 45

Missouri - Research 2000
Obama 48 McCain 47

New Hampshire - Boston Globe 10/18-10/22
Obama 54 McCain 39

Wisconsin - Rasmussen 10/23
Obama 51 McCain 44

West Virginia - Research 2000 10/22-10/24
McCain 49 Obama 43

HBox
10-27-2008, 01:56 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 52 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 50 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +3

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 50 McCain 42 - Trend Unchanged

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 52 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +1

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 53 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +1

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 46 - Trend McCain +1

IBD/TIPP
Obama 47 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +1

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 46 - Trend McCain +3

Zogby
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 53 McCain 40 - Trend Unchanged


State Polls

Virginia - Washington Post 10/22-10/25
Obama 52 McCain 44

Virginia - SurveyUSA 10/25-10/26
Obama 52 McCain 43

Virginia - Virginia Commonwealth University 10/20-10/22
Obama 51 McCain 40

Virginia - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 52 McCain 45

Iowa - Marist 10/22-10/23
Obama 52 McCain 42

New Hampshire 10/22-10/23
Obama 50 McCain 45

North Carolina - Public Policy Polling 10/15-10/16
Obama 49 McCain 48 Barr 1

North Carolina - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 46

Pennsylvania - Temple 10/20-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 41

Washington - Washington Poll 10/18-10/26
Obama 55 McCain 34

Oregon - SurveyUSA 10/25-10/26
Obama 57 McCain 38

California - Rasmussen 10/25
Obama 61 McCain 34

Florida - Suffolk 10/23-10/26
Obama 49 McCain 44

Florida - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 47 McCain 47

Arizona - Rasmussen 10/26
McCain 51 Obama 46

Missouri - SurveyUSA 10/25-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 48

Missouri - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 46

Ohio - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 45

Nevada - Zogby 10/23-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 44

Indiana - Zogby 10/23-10/26
McCain 50 Obama 44

West Virginia 10/23-10/26
McCain 50 Obama 40

HBox
10-27-2008, 04:16 PM
State Polls

Colorado - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
Obama 50 McCain 46

Florida - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
Obama 51 McCain 47

Missouri - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
Obama 48 McCain 47

North Carolina - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
McCain 49 Obama 48

Ohio - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
Obama 48 McCain 45

Virginia - FOX News/Rasmussen 10/26
Obama 51 McCain 47

AKA
10-28-2008, 12:59 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/195911.jpg

errrr...yeah...

:wallbash:

HBox
10-28-2008, 01:26 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 52 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend McCain +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 50 McCain 42 - Trend Unchanged

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend McCain +3

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +3

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 49 McCain 47 - Trend McCain +3

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 46 - Trend Unchanged

IBD/TIPP
Obama 48 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 46 - Trend Unchanged

Zogby
Obama 49 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +1


National Polls

Pew 10/23-10/26
Obama 52 McCain 38

ARG 10/25-10/27
Obama 50 McCain 45


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 53 McCain 41 - Trend McCain +1


State Polls

Mississippi - Rasmussen 10/27
McCain 53 Obama 45

New Hampshire - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/23-10/25
Obama 50 McCain 39

North Carolina - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/23-10/25
Obama 47 McCain 47

Montana - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/23-10/25
McCain 48 Obama 44

New Jersey - Strategic Vision 10/24-10/26
Obama 53 McCain 38

Wisconsin - Strategic Vision 10/24-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 41

Arizona - Northern Arizona University 10/18-10/27
McCain 49 Obama 41

Nevada - Rasmussen 10/27
Obama 50 McCain 46

Nevada - Suffolk 10/23-10/27
Obama 50 McCain 40

Pennsylvania - Rasmussen 10/27
Obama 53 McCain 46

Georgia - Insider Advantage 10/27
McCain 48 Obama 47

Indiana - Research 2000 10/23-10/25
Obama 48 McCain 47

Louisiana - SE Louisiana University 10/20-10/23
McCain 51 Obama 38

Arkansas - Rasmussen 10/27
McCain 54 Obama 44

K.C.
10-29-2008, 10:36 AM
Obama's numbers in Arizona and Mississippi are interesting.

I'm a little surprised he's not polling a little closer in Louisiana, but I guess that state has changed quite a bit, demographically, post-Katrina.

It's odd. The National Polls show a little bit of a tightening, but it's not reflected in any of the state polls (at least yet).

Something's a little off...

JerseySean
10-29-2008, 10:43 AM
Obama's numbers in Arizona and Mississippi are interesting.

I'm a little surprised he's not polling a little closer in Louisiana, but I guess that state has changed quite a bit, demographically, post-Katrina.

It's odd. The National Polls show a little bit of a tightening, but it's not reflected in any of the state polls (at least yet).

Something's a little off...

Something is WAY OFF this year. I would look at the RCP average and the daily trackers to see which direction the numbers are headed. Here is where I CANT believe the State polls. Marist put out a poll today I think which has Obama up 3 in Ohio and something like 15 in PA. That NEVER happens. It just cant happen. It never has.

As for Louisiana, dont ever try to predict it. Post-Katrina numbers hurt Republicans as much as it did Dems. St Bernard and Plaquemines Parishes were emptied like Orleans was and they are STRONG GOP parishes. I think Barry will do well down there. But these state polls are fucked up.

K.C.
10-29-2008, 10:58 AM
Here is where I CANT believe the State polls. Marist put out a poll today I think which has Obama up 3 in Ohio and something like 15 in PA. That NEVER happens. It just cant happen. It never has.


That particular example is not quite as unbelievable to me, at least for this election.

I could see Obama winning by 10-15 points in PA and actually losing Ohio.

Pennsylvania, for the Democrats, runs through turnout in Philadelphia, and all indications are that he's going have record shattering turnout in that area.

That combined with the fact that he's running much better than Kerry did throughout the other parts of the state suggest a blowout to me (regardless of the McCain campaign's suggestions that PA is very much in play).


Ohio is a little bit of a different animal. It's like a larger Western PA, with smaller urban populations. Demographically, it tilts more to McCain (there's probably more registered Democrats, but they're mostly conservative Democrats).

While there's a lot of similarities between Ohio and Western PA, Ohio doesn't have the equalizer that is Philly.


But the polling data is getting spotty. I don't think people know quite how to weight their polls for this election, because the electorate is assumed to have changed so much.

JerseySean
10-29-2008, 11:09 AM
That particular example is not quite as unbelievable to me, at least for this election.

I could see Obama winning by 10-15 points in PA and actually losing Ohio.

Pennsylvania, for the Democrats, runs through turnout in Philadelphia, and all indications are that he's going have record shattering turnout in that area.

That combined with the fact that he's running much better than Kerry did throughout the other parts of the state suggest a blowout to me (regardless of the McCain campaign's suggestions that PA is very much in play).


Ohio is a little bit of a different animal. It's like a larger Western PA, with smaller urban populations. Demographically, it tilts more to McCain (there's probably more registered Democrats, but they're mostly conservative Democrats).

While there's a lot of similarities between Ohio and Western PA, Ohio doesn't have the equalizer that is Philly.


But the polling data is getting spotty. I don't think people know quite how to weight their polls for this election, because the electorate is assumed to have changed so much.

But here is the deal as far as PA goes. Philly is an automatic +400k for Obama maybe 450k. By the time you get to Harrisberg, that lead is cut down to 200k. Even if he is running well, west of Harrisberg, which Im not sure he is doing all that all that well compared to Kerry/Gore, he needs to avoid a 5 point loss. If he is up only 3 in Ohio, that means the college and urban centers aside, he is down at least 12-15. Which in no way means he is only down 5 west of Harrisburg.


Now Im not saying that PA is wrong and OH is right on that poll. Im saying that if the PA numbers are right, which they could very well be than Obama will win Ohio by about 9-10 points. The early tell on E-day in PA will be Luzerne County. If McCain is under 50 there, its over. If he is at 52 or higher, it will be a nailbiter, if he gets to 55 Barry is in trouble.

HBox
10-29-2008, 02:06 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 52 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 50 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 49 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 51 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +2

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Likely Voters -Traditional:
Obama 49 McCain 46 - Trend Obama +1

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 46 -Trend Unchanged

IBD/TIPP
Obama 47 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +1

Rasmussen
Obama 50 McCain 47 - Trend McCain +2

Zogby
Obama 49 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1


National Polls

Ipsos/McClatchey 10/23-10/27
Obama 48 McCain 43

Harris 10/20-10/27
Obama 50 McCain 44


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Morning Call/Muhlenberg
Obama 53 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1


State Polls

Florida - LA Times/Bloomberg 10/24-10/27
Obama 50 McCain 43

Florida - Quinnipiac 10/22-10/26
Obama 47 McCain 45

Florida - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 45 McCain 43

Florida - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 51 McCain 47

Ohio - LA Times/Bloomberg 10/24-10/27
Obama 49 McCain 40

Ohio - Quinnipiac 10/22-10/26
Obama 51 McCain 42

Ohio - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 41

Ohio - Marist 10/24-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 45

Pennsylvania - Quinnipiac 10/22-10/26
Obama 53 McCain 41

Pennsylvania - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 42

Pennsylvania - Franklin and Marshall 10/21-10/26
Obama 53 McCain 40

Pennsylvania - Marist 10/24-10/26
Obama 55 McCain 41

Washington - SurveyUSA 10/26-10/27
Obama 56 McCain 39

Washington - Strategic Vision 10/25-10/26
Obama 54 McCain 42

Arizona - Arizona State University 10/23-10/26
McCain 46 Obama 44

Indiana - Hower/Gauge 10/23-10/24
McCain 47 Obama 45

Colorado - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 50 McCain 41

Colorado - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 53 McCain 45

Nevada - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 52 McCain 40

New Hampshire - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 55 McCain 37

North Carolina - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 48 McCain 46

Virginia - AP 10/22-10/26
Obama 49 McCain 42

Virginia - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 53 McCain 44

Georgia - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
McCain 52 Obama 47

Missouri - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
McCain 50 Obama 48

Alaska - Rasmussen 10/28
McCain 57 Obama 41

Michigan - Rasmussen 10/28
Obama 53 McCain 43

Minnesota - Rasmussen 10/28
Obama 55 McCain 43

New Mexico - Rasmussen 10/28
Obama 54 McCain 44

New York - SurveyUSA 10/27-10/28
Obama 62 McCain 33

Wisconsin - Research 2000 10/27-10/28
Obama 53 McCain 42

TheMojoPin
10-29-2008, 02:25 PM
Something is WAY OFF this year. I would look at the RCP average and the daily trackers to see which direction the numbers are headed. Here is where I CANT believe the State polls.

The latest post on 538.com kinda ties in to what you're talking about when it comes to "believing" state polls vs. national polls. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/myth-of-lag.html)

JerseySean
10-29-2008, 02:56 PM
The latest post on 538.com kinda ties in to what you're talking about when it comes to "believing" state polls vs. national polls. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/myth-of-lag.html)

Im saying that something is wrong with ALL the polling. Something is off one way or the other, something is wrong

TheMojoPin
10-29-2008, 03:39 PM
Im saying that something is wrong with ALL the polling. Something is off one way or the other, something is wrong

Well, that's incredibly vague.

HBox
10-30-2008, 02:25 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 52 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 48 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 50 McCain 42 - Trend McCain +1

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend Obama +2

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 46 - Trend Unchanged

IBD/TIPP
Obama 48 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 46 - Trend Obama +2

Zogby
Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +2


National Polls

FOX News 10/28-10/29
Obama 47 McCain 44

Economist 10/25-10/27
Obama 49 McCain 42


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 54 McCain 41 - Trend Obama +2


State Polls

Arizona - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
McCain 53 Obama 46

Arizona - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/27-10/28
McCain 48 Obama 44

Nevada - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 52 McCain 45

North Carolina = CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 52 McCain 46

North Carolina - National Journal 10/23-10/27
Obama 47 McCain 43

North Carolina - Rasmussen 10/29
Obama 50 McCain 48

Ohio - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 51 McCain 47

Ohio - National Journal 10/23-10/27
Obama 48 McCain 41

Pennsylvania - CNN/Time 10/23-10/28
Obama 55 McCain 43

Pennsylvania - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/27-10/28
Obama 47 McCain 43

Minnesota - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/27-10/28
Obama 48 McCain 40

Minnesota - Minnesota Public Radio 10/24-10/28
Obama 56 McCain 37

Indiana - Selzer 10/26-10/28
Obama 46 McCain 45

Indiana - Rasmussen 10/28-10/29
McCain 49 Obama 46

New Jersey - Research 2000 10/26-10/28
Obama 54 McCain 38

Texas - University of Texas 10/15-10/22
McCain 51 Obama 40

South Carolina - NBC 10/25-10/28
McCain 53 Obama 42

Colorado - Marist 10/26-10/28
Obama 51 McCain 45

Colorado - National Journal 10/23-10/27
Obama 48 McCain 44

Virginia - Marist 10/26-10/28
Obama 51 McCain 47

Virginia - National Journal 10/23-10/27
Obama 48 McCain 41

Florida - National Journal 10/23-10/27
Obama 45 McCain 44

Idaho - Harstad 10/19-10/22
McCain 55 Obama 32

Kentucky - Rasmussen 10/29
McCain 55 Obama 43

Montana - Rasmussen 10/29
McCain 50 Obama 46

Alabama - SurveyUSA 10/27-10/28
McCain 61 Obama 36

Massachusetts - SurveyUSA 10/27-10/28
Obama 56 McCain 39

epo
10-30-2008, 05:05 PM
I ask that the Fox News polls be questioned from this point on for this reason: (Kudos to Andrew Sullivan for the data (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/how-fox-mislead.html))

Last Thursday's poll was 49-40 Obama.
Yesterday's poll was 47-44 Obama.

Why the trouble?

Thursday's poll used:

Democrats 401, ±5 percentage points; Republicans 345, ±5; independents 148, ±8 Obama supporters 462, ±5; McCain supporters 370, ±5

Last week's poll used:

Democrat LV 379, ±5; Republican LV 364, ±5; independent LV 146, ±8, Obama supporters LV 439, ±5; McCain supporters LV 405, ±5

See what they did? They shifted the matrix by approximately 6% and got a 6% different result. They are obviously fucking with their sample data to get the results they want.

HBox
10-30-2008, 05:47 PM
National Polls

CBS/NY Times 10/25-10/29
Obama 52 McCain 41


State Polls

Iowa - SurveyUSA 10/28-10/29
Obama 55 McCain 40

New Hampshire - Suffolk 10/27-10/29
Obama 53 McCain 40

hammersavage
10-30-2008, 06:30 PM
If that CBS/NYT poll is accurate, I'll blow you HBox.

celery
10-30-2008, 08:03 PM
If that CBS/NYT poll is accurate, I'll blow you HBox.

Hell, I'll blow Big A and give Crazed a vroom vroom.

IMSlacker
10-30-2008, 08:07 PM
I ask that the Fox News polls be questioned from this point on for this reason: (Kudos to Andrew Sullivan for the data (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/how-fox-mislead.html))

Last Thursday's poll was 49-40 Obama.
Yesterday's poll was 47-44 Obama.

Why the trouble?

Thursday's poll used:



Last week's poll used:



See what they did? They shifted the matrix by approximately 6% and got a 6% different result. They are obviously fucking with their sample data to get the results they want.

From Nate Silver's polling update today: (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1030.html)

It's true that FOX's sample included a materially higher percentage of Republicans this time around. FOX, however, does not choose its sample; its sample chooses itself. In this case, when they drew their ping-pong balls out of the jar, they came up with a slightly higher percentage of red ones. This kind of thing will happen all the time unless a pollster weights by party ID, which FOX News and many other pollsters do not. The Pew poll that came out the other day, for instance, had a big increase in the number of Democrats in its sample.

celery
10-30-2008, 08:27 PM
I trust Fox News' poll about as much as I trust 7-11's (http://www.7-election.com/).

hammersavage
10-30-2008, 08:55 PM
If that 7-11 poll is accurate, I'll blow you celery.

HBox
10-31-2008, 03:01 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 53 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 51 McCain 45 - Trend Obama +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 48 McCain 41 - Trend Obama +1

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 52 McCain 41 - Trend Obama +3

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 52 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +2

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 51 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +3

GWU/Battleground
Obama 49 McCain 45 - Trend Obama +1

IBD/TIPP
Obama 48 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 47 - Trend McCain +1

Zogby
Obama 50 McCain 43 - Trend Unchanged


National Polls

Marist 10/29
Obama 50 McCain 43


State Polls

Colorado - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
Obama 54 McCain 44

Colorado - ARG 10/28-10/30
Obama 52 McCain 45

Michigan - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
Obama 55 McCain 43

Michigan - Strategic Vision 10/27-10/29
Obama 54 McCain 41

Michigan - EPIC/MRA 10/26-10/28
Obama 50 McCain 38

New Mexico - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
Obama 58 McCain 41

Minnesota - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
Obama 57 McCain 41

Oregon - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
Obama 57 McCain 42

West Virginia - Public Policy Polling 10/28-10/30
McCain 55 Obama 42

New Jersey - FDU 10/23-10/29
Obama 53 McCain 35

New Jersey - SurveyUSA 10/29-10/30
Obama 52 McCain 42

New Hampshire - Strategic Vision 10/27-10/29
Obama 50 McCain 41

New Hampshire - Research 2000 10/28-10/30
Obama 51 McCain 44

New Hampshire - SurveyUSA 10/29-10/30
Obama 53 McCain 42

New Hampshire - ARG 10/28-10/30
Obama 56 McCain 41

New Hampshire - Rasmussen 10/30
Obama 51 McCain 44

Pennsylvania - Strategic Vision 10/27-10/29
Obama 49 McCain 44

Indiana - SurveyUSA 10/27-10/30
McCain 47 Obama 47

Arizona - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/28-10/30
McCain 48 Obama 47

Arizona - ARG 10/28-10/30
McCain 50 Obama 46

Missouri - ARG 10/28-10/30
Obama 48 McCain 48

Missouri - Insider Advantage/Politico
McCain 50 Obama 47

Montana - ARG 10/28-10/30
McCain 49 Obama 46

Montana - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/28-10/30
McCain 48 Obama 44

Alaska - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/28-10/30
McCain 59 Obama 39

Georgia - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/28-10/30
McCain 47 Obama 44

Georgia - Rasmussen 10/30
McCain 52 Obama 47

North Dakota - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/28-10/29
McCain 47 Obama 46

North Carolina - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/30
Obama 47 McCain 45

North Carolina - Insider Advantage/Politico
Obama 48 McCain 48

Mississippi - Rasmussen 10/30
McCain 53 Obama 40

Wisconsin - University of Wisconsin 10/21-10/28
Obama 52 McCain 42

HBox
11-01-2008, 01:37 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 53 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 52 McCain 41 - Trend Unchanged

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 52 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +1

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 52 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +2

IBD/TIPP
Obama 48 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +1

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 46 - Trend Obama +1

Zogby
Obama 49 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +2


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 52 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +5


State Polls

Wyoming - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/27-10/29
McCain 61 Obama 36

Minnesota - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/27-10/29
Obama 53 McCain 38

Kentucky - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/27-10/29
McCain 56 Obama 39

Oregon - Daily Kos/Research 2000 10/27-10/29
Obama 55 McCain 39

Oregon - Rasmussen 10/30
Obama 54 McCain 42

Cailfornia - SurveyUSA 10/29-10/31
Obama 60 McCain 36

Arkansas - ARG 10/28-10/31
McCain 51 Obama 44

Florida - ARG 10/28-10/31
Obama 50 McCain 46

Florida - Datamar 10/29-10/30
McCain 47 Obama 47

Florida - Mason-Dixon 10/29-10/30
Obama 47 McCain 45

Indiana - ARG 10/28-10/31
Obama 48 McCain 48

Pennsylvania - ARG 10/28-10/31
Obama 51 McCain 45

Pennsylvania - Rasmussen 10/30
Obama 51 McCain 47

South Dakota - Rasmussen 10/30
McCain 53 Obama 44

HBox
11-02-2008, 01:42 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 54 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +2

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Unchanged

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +2

Gallup
Registered Voters:
Obama 52 McCain 41 - Trend Unchanged

Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 52 McCain 43 - Trend McCain +1

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 51 McCain 43 - Trend McCain +2

IBD/TIPP
Obama 47 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +4

Rasmussen
Obama 51 McCain 46 - Trend Unchanged

Zogby
Obama 50 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1


National Polls

CBS News/NY Times 10/30-10/31
Obama 54 McCain 41

Pew 10/29-11/1
Registered Voters:
Obama 50 McCain 39

Likely Voters:
Obama 49 McCain 42

Likely Voters with undecideds allocated:
Obama 52 McCain 46


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 52 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +1


State Polls

Pennsylvania - Rasmussen 11/1
Obama 52 McCain 46

Pennsylvania - SurveyUSA 10/31
Obama 51 McCain 44

Pennsylvania - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
Obama 47 McCain 43

Washington - University of Washington 10/27-10/31
Obama 51 McCain 39

New Jersey - Monmouth University 10/29-10/31
Obama 55 McCain 34

Utah - Deseret 10/24-10/30
McCain 57 Obama 32

Ohio - Ohio University 10/12-10/23
Obama 57 McCain 41

Ohio - Columbus Dispatch 10/22-10/31
Obama 52 McCain 46

Ohio - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
McCain 47 Obama 45

Iowa - Des Moines Register/Selzer 10/28-10/31
Obama 54 McCain 37

Nevada - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
Obama 47 McCain 43

Colorado - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
Obama 49 McCain 44

Missouri - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
McCain 47 Obama 46

Florida - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
Obama 47 McCain 45

North Carolina - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
McCain 49 Obama 46

Virginia - NBC News/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
Obama 47 McCain 44

Virginia - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/1
Obama 50 McCain 46

Kentucky - Courier Journal/Mason-Dixon 10/28-10/29
McCain 53 Obama 41

Kentucky - SurveyUSA 10/29-11/1
McCain 56 Obama 40

New Mexico - Albuquerque Journal
Obama 51 McCain 43

Minnesota - Star Tribune 10/29-10/31
Obama 53 McCain 42

Illinois - Rasmussen 11/1
Obama 60 McCain 38

Maine - Rasmussen 11/1
Obama 56 McCain 43

HBox
11-03-2008, 03:42 PM
National Tracking Polls

ABC News/Washington Post
Obama 53 McCain 44 - Trend McCain +2

Daily Kos/Research 2000
Obama 51 McCain 45 - Trend McCain +1

Diageo/Hotline
Obama 50 McCain 45 - Trend Unchanged

Gallup
Likely Voters - Expanded:
Obama 53 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +2

Likely Voters - Traditional:
Obama 53 McCain 42 - Trend Obama +3

GWU/Battleground
Obama 50 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +2

IBD/TIPP
Obama 48 McCain 43 - Trend Obama +3

Rasmussen
Obama 52 McCain 46 - Trend Obama +1

Zogby
Obama 51 McCain 44 - Trend Obama +1


National Polls

NBC News/Wall Street Journal 11/1-11/2
Obama 51 McCain 43

Democracy Corps 10/30-11/2
Obama 51 McCain 44

Marist 11/2
Obama 53 McCain 44

FOX News 11/1-11/2
Obama 50 McCain 43

CBS News/NY Times 10/31-11/2
Obama 51 McCain 42


State Tracking Polls

Pennsylvania - Muhlenberg/Morning Call
Obama 52 McCain 46 - Trend McCain +1


State Polls

Virginia - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 52 McCain 46

Virginia - FOX News/Rasmussen 11/2
Obama 51 McCain 47

Virginia - Zogby 11/2
Obama 51 McCain 45

Pennsylvania - Rasmussen 11/1
Obama 52 McCain 46

Pennsylvania - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 53 McCain 45

Pennsylvania - Quinnipiac 10/27-11/2
Obama 52 McCain 42

Pennsylvania - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
Obama 51 McCain 44

Pennsylvania - Zogby 11/2
Obama 54 McCain 40

Minnesota - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/1
Obama 49 McCain 46

Ohio - Public Policy Polling 10/30-11/2
Obama 50 McCain 48

Ohio - Quinnipiac 10/27-11/2
Obama 50 McCain 43

Ohio - University of Cincinnati 10/29-11/2
Obama 52 McCain 46

Ohio - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/2
Obama 48 McCain 46

Ohio - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
McCain 48 Obama 46

Ohio - FOX News/Rasmussen 11/2
Obama 49 McCain 49

Ohio - Zogby 11/2
Obama 50 McCain 44

North Carolina - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 50 McCain 49

North Carolina - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/2
McCain 49 Obama 48

North Carolina - FOX News?Rasmussen 11/2
McCain 50 Obama 49

North Carolina - Zogby 11/2
McCain 48 Obama 47

Montana - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 48 McCain 47

Florida - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 50 McCain 48

Florida - Qunnipiac 10/27-11/2
Obama 47 McCain 45

Florida - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
Obama 49 McCain 47

Florida - FOX News/Rasmussen 11/2
McCain 50 Obama 49

Florida - Zogby 11/2
Obama 48 McCain 46

Georgia - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
McCain 50 Obama 48 Barr 2

Georgia - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
McCain 50 Obama 46 Barr 1

Georgia - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/2
McCain 52 Obama 45

Missouri - SurveyUSA 10/30-11/2
McCain 48 Obama 48

Missouri - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 49 McCain 49

Missouri - FOX News/Rasmussen 11/2
Obama 49 McCain 49

Missouri - Zogby 11/2
Obama 48 McCain 46

Alaska - Hays Research 11/2
McCain 47 Obama 44

Washington - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
Obama 55 McCain 40

Wisconsin - Strategic Vision 10/31-11/2
Obama 53 McCain 40

Indiana - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 49 McCain 48

Indiana - Zogby 11/2
McCain 49 Obama 44

Nevada - Public Policy Polling 10/31-11/2
Obama 51 McCain 47

Nevada - Zogby
Obama 51 McCain 43

Colorado - FOX News/Rasmussen 11/2
Obama 51 McCain 47

New Jersey - Rasmussen 11/2
Obama 57 McCain 42

Maine - SurveyUSA 11/1
Obama 58 McCain 38

AKA
11-03-2008, 04:04 PM
I think I will miss you, 2008 Election Polling Thread, most of all.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii238/silvermachine38/monkey-pigeon.jpg

K.C.
11-03-2008, 04:31 PM
National Tracking Polls
Alaska - Hays Research 11/2
McCain 47 Obama 44



Wait...what?

HBox
11-03-2008, 04:37 PM
Wait...what?

Here's a link. (http://www.haysresearch.com/OC110208.htm)

HBox
11-04-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm going to spend sometime tomorrow pulling together the 538.com predictions and polling averages and compare them to the actual results just to satisfy my own curiosity. I'll post what I have here when I'm done.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 09:36 PM
That'll be a nice capper to this thread. I'm gonna start merging and closing some of the election threads down so that this forum and the new threads page aren't so cluttered.

PapaBear
11-04-2008, 09:41 PM
That'll be a nice capper to this thread. I'm gonna start merging and closing some of the election threads down so that this forum and the new threads page aren't so cluttered.
Godspeed, soldier.

HBox
11-05-2008, 01:15 PM
ALASKA
Actual Results: McCain 62 Obama 36

538 Projection: McCain 56 Obama 42
Pollster.com Average: McCain 56 Obama 40
RCP Average: McCain 56 Obama 41
Last 3 polls:
Hays Research - McCain 47 Obama 44
ARG - McCain 55 Obama 43
Research 2000 - McCain 58 Obama 39

Considering Ted Stevens re-election the pollsters obvious under represented Republicans in Alaska. It looks like Research 2000 was closest.


ALABAMA
Actual Results: McCain 61 Obama 39

538: McCain 61 Obama 39
Pollster.com: McCain 59 Obama 36
RCP: McCain 57 Obama 34
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - McCain 61 Obama 36
YouGov - McCain 57 Obama 39
Capital Survey - McCain 54 Obama 34

538 perfetly nailed it, everyone else was pretty close. They all pretty much nailed the margin of victory.


Arkansas
Actual Results: McCain 59 Obama 39

538 Projection: McCain 55 Obama 44
Pollster.com: McCain 52 Obama 42
RCP: McCain 52 Obama 43
Last 3 polls:
ARG - McCain 51 Obama 44
Rasmussen - McCain 54 Obama 44
YouGov - McCain 53 Obama 41

Another red state where Obama's performance was consistently over represented. I wonder if this will be a trend. Both Alaska and Arkansas didn't have much polling, however.


Arizona
Actual Results: McCain 54 Obama 45

538: McCain 51 Obama 46
Pollster.com: McCain 49 Obama 44
RCP: McCain 49 Obama 46
Last 3 polls:
ARG - McCain 50 Obama 46
Research 2000 - McCain 48 Obama 47
Mason-Dixon - McCain 48 Obama 44

Another red state with little polling, another place where McCain overperformed. However, Arizona did see a late surge in polling and they all had it much closer than reality.


California
Actual Results: Obama 61 McCain 37

538: Obama 59 McCain 39
Pollster.com: Obama 56 McCain 37
RCP: Obama 59 McCain 34
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 60 McCain 36
YouGov - Obama 55 McCain 40
Rasmussen - Obama 61 McCain 34

Everyone was in or close to the margin of error. Not much shock here although they misjudged Prop 8.


Colorado
Actual Results: Obama 53 McCain 46

538: Obama 53 McCain 46
Pollster.com: Obama 52 McCain 44
RCP: Obama 51 McCain 45
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - Obama 51 McCain 47
PPP - Obama 54 McCain 44
Mason-Dixon - Obama 49 McCain 44

538 again nails it exactly. Everyone else was very close.


Connecticut
Actual Results: Obama 60 McCain 39

538: Obama 59 McCain 39
Pollster.com: Obama 57 McCain 36
RCP: Obama 55 McCain 56
Last 3 polls:
YouGov - Obama 58 McCain 37
UCONN - Obama 56 McCain 36
Rasmussen - Obama 56 McCain 39

Not the hardest state to call, and everyone was pretty close to the margin and 538 almost exactly nails it.


District Of Columbia
Actualy Results: Obama 93 McCain 7

Just for laughs.


Delaware
Obama 61 McCain 38

538: Obama 62 McCain 37
Pollster.com: Obama 61 McCain 36
RCP: Obama 58 McCain 37
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 63 McCain 33
YouGov - Obama 59 McCain 37
Rasmussen - Obama 56 McCain 41

Not much here either. 538 just a point off.


Florida
Actual Results: Obama 51 McCain 49

538: Obama 50 McCain 48
Pollster.com: Obama 49 McCain 47
RCP: Obama 49 McCain 47
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 50 McCain 47
Rasmussen - McCain 50 Obama 49
Zogby - Obama 49 McCain 48

538 again very close. The polls were again very close. In a race this close there will be some with McCain is ahead since it was within the margin of error. Of the last 17 Florida polls Obama led 14, McCain 2 and one was tied. Florida, for once, went smoothly and as expected.


Georgia
Actual Results: McCain 52 Obama 47

538: McCain 51 Obama 48
Pollster.com: McCain 50 Obama 47
RCP: Obama 50 McCain 46
Last 3 polls:
Insider Advantage: McCain 48 Obama 47
SurveyUSA - McCain 52 Obama 45
PPP - McCain 50 McCain 48

One caveat: the total vote count here was much lower than expected. There may be a lot of outstanding early votes. All they could do however is push the Senate race into a runoff and shrink the margin. As it is it looks like most polls overstated Obama's late surge very slightly.


Hawaii
Actual Results: Obama 72 McCain 27

There wasn't enough polling here to make any useful projection.


Iowa
Actual Results: Obama 54 McCain 45

538: Obama 55 McCain 43
Pollster.com: Obama 53 McCain 41
RCP: Obama 54 McCain 39
Last 3 polls:
Selzer - Obama 54 McCain 37
SurveyUSA - Obama 55 McCain 40
Research 2000 - Obama 53 McCain 39

The polls seem to have universally over-estimated Obama's support here, though his lead was still huge as it is. 538 again very close.


Idaho
Actual Results: McCain 62 Obama 36

Not enough polls.


Illinois
Actual Results: Obama 62 McCain 37

538: Obama 60 McCain 38
Pollster.com: Obama 60 McCain 37
RCP: Obama 59 McCain 34
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - Obama 60 McCain 38
YouGov - Obama 59 McCain 38
Research 2000 - Obama 59 McCain 35

Looks like Obama overperformed slightly. I think after all this I'm going to go back and see if McCain overperformed in the deep red states and Obama overperformed in the deep blue.


Indiana
Actual Results: Obama 50 McCain 49

538: McCain 50 Obama 48
Pollster.com: McCain 48 Obama 47
RCP: McCain 48 Obama 46
Last 3 polls:
Zogby - McCain 50 Obama 45
PPP - Obama 49 McCain 48
ARG - McCain 48 Obama 48

The big shock of the election. Looks like Public Policy Polling nailed it with their last poll, and Selzer had this close all along and with Obama ahead at the end.


Kansas
Actual Results: McCain 57 Obama 41

538: McCain 56 Obama 42
Pollster.com: McCain 56 Obama 39
RCP: no average
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - McCain 58 Obama 37
YouGov - McCain 52 Obama 41
Rasmussen - Obama 54 McCain 41

No shocks here.


Kentucky
Actual Results: McCain 58 Obama 41

538: McCain 56 Obama 42
Pollster.com: McCain 54 Obama 41
RCP: McCain 55 Obama 41
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - McCain 56 Obama 40
Rasmussen - McCain 55 Obama 43
Mason-Dixon - McCain 51 Obama 42

This went as expected, although there was some slight tightening late in the polls that didn't materialize.


Louisiana
Actual Results: McCain 59 Obama 40

538: McCain 54 Obama 44
Pollster.com: McCain 52 Obama 42
RCP: no average
Last 3 polls:
Loyola - Mccain 43 Obama 40
YouGov - McCain 52 Obama 45
Rasmussen - 57 Obama 41

More overstating of Obama's support, but there wasn't much polling here. Rasmussen came closest.


Maine
Actual Results: Obama 58 McCain 40

538:Obama 56 McCain 42
Pollster.com: Obama 55 McCain 38
RCP: Obama 54 McCain 38
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - Obama 56 McCain 43
SurveyUSA - Obama 58 McCain 38
YouGov - Obama 51 McCain 42

Some more under-estimation of Obama's support.


Maryland
Actual Results: Obama 61 McCain 38

Not much polling.


Massachusetts
Actual Results: Obama 63 McCain 36

538: Obama 59 McCain 39
Pollster.com: Obama 57 McCain 37
RCP: Obama 57 Obama 36
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 56 McCain 39
YouGov - Obama 57 McCain 39
Suffolk - Obama 53 McCain 34

Fairly significant under-estimation of Obama's support here.


Michigan
Actual Results: Obama 57 McCain 41

538: Obama 55 McCain 43
Pollster.com: Obama 54 McCain 39
RCP: Obama 53 McCain 39
Last 3 polls:
Selzer: Obama 53 McCain 37
PPP: Obama 53 McCain 40
Strategic Vision: Obama 54 McCain 41

Everyone was pretty close here, if a bit under-estimating Obama's support.


Minnesota
Actual Results: Obama 54 McCain 44

538: Obama 54 McCain 44
Pollster.com: Obama 53 McCain 41
RCP: Obama 52 McCain 42
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 49 McCain 46
Star Tribune - Obama 53 McCain 42
PPP - Obama 57 McCain 41

538 gets another perfect projection.


Missouri
Actual Results: McCain 50 Obama 49

538: McCain 49.4 Obama 49.2
Pollster.com: Obama 48 McCain 47
RCP: McCain 49 Obama 48
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - McCain 49 Obama 49
Zogby - McCain 49 Obama 49
PPP - Obama 50 McCain 49

This was the closest race in the nation, as the polls suggested. It seemed like McCain had the slightest of edges and that's how it turned out.


Mississippi
Actual Results: McCain 57 Obama 43

538: McCain 55 Obama 43
Pollster.com: McCain 52 Obama 42
RCP: McCain 51 Obama 39
Last 3 polls:
Research 2000 - McCain 53 Obama 40
Rasmussen - McCain 53 Obama 45
YouGov - McCain 55 Obama 42

Another deep red state where McCain was under-estimated.


Montana
Actual Results: McCain 50 Obama 47

538: McCain 50 Obama 48
Pollster.com: McCain 48 Obama 46
RCP: McCain 49 Obama 45
Last 3 polls:
PPP - Obama 48 McCain 47
Rasmussen - McCain 50 Obama 48
Research 2000 - McCain 48 Obama 44

Polls were pretty accurate here.


North Carolina
Actual Results: Obama 50 McCain 49

538: Obama 50 McCain 49
Pollster.com: Obama 48.8 McCain 48.4
RCP: McCain 48.4 Obama 48
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - McCain 50 Obama 49
Zogby - McCain 49.5 Obama 49.1
ARG - Obama 49 McCain 48

This still hasn't been officially called. But this ended up as close as it seemed in the polls.


North Dakota
Actual Results: McCain 53 Obama 45

Not much polling here. Looks like Obama's hopes here were misplaced.


Nebraska
Actual Results: McCain 57 Obama 41

Not much polling here. Obama didn't pull out district 2.


New Hampshire
Actual Results: Obama 55 McCain 44

538: Obama 54 McCain 44
Pollster.com: Obama 53 McCain 41
RCP: Obama 53 McCain 42
Last 3 polls:
UNH: Obama 54 McCain 39
SurveyUSA - Obama 53 McCain 42
Rasmussen - Obama 51 McCain 44

The polling here was decent, not nearly the disaster it was in the NH primary.


New Jersey
Actual Results: Obama 57 McCain 42

538: Obama 56 McCain 42
Pollster.com: Obama 54 McCain 39
RCP: Obama 55 McCain 39
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - 57 McCain 42
SurveyUSA - Obama 52 McCain 42
Monmouth - Obama 55 McCain 34

Congrats to Rasmussen for perfectly nailing NJ in their last poll.


New Mexico
Actual Results: Obama 57 McCain 42

538: Obama 55 McCain 45
Pollster.com: Obama 53 McCain 44
RCP: Obama 50 McCain 43
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA: Obama 52 McCain 45
PPP - Obama 58 McCain 41
Albuquerque Journal - Obama 51 McCain 43

This looks like the one state where one candidate overperformed the most. Polls on average showed some tightening in the last week which showed itself to be totally unfounded. But the actual margin matched what looked to be the highest outlier polls on the Obama side.


Nevada
Actual Results: Obama 55 McCain 43

538: Obama 52 McCain 47
Pollster.com: Obama 51 McCain 44
RCP: Obama 50 McCain 44
Last 3 polls:
Zogby - Obama 53 McCain 42
ARG - Obama 52 McCain 47
PPP - Obama 51 McCain 47

Jsut as I write about New Mexico above here comes Nevada. it looked to be very close and probably through the strength of early voting Obama really runs up the score here. Republicans need to be extremely concerned about the Southwest because right now it looks far out of reach for Republicans.


New York
Actual Results: Obama 62 McCain 37

538: Obama 62 McCain 37
Pollster.com: Obama 60 McCain 35
RCP: Obama 62 McCain 32
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 62 McCain 33
YouGov - Obama 58 McCain 38
Marist - Obama 65 McCain 29

As expected.


Ohio
Actual Results: Obama 52 McCain 47

538: Obama 51 McCain 47
Pollster.com: Obama 49 McCain 46
RCP: Obama 49 McCain 46
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - Obama 49 McCain 49
PPP - Obama 50 McCain 48
Strategic Vision - McCain 48 Obama 46

Obama really overpeformed here. Ohio won it for him. Though 538 again got really close.


Oklahoma
Actual Results: Obama 66 McCain 34

Who cares about Oklahoma?

Oregon
Actual Results: Obama 55 McCain 42

Oregon is entirely mail-in voting, so they are only up to 67% reporting.


Pennsylvania
Actual Results: Obama 55 McCain 44

538: Obama 53 McCain 45
Pollster.com: Obama 52 McCain 44
RCP: Obama 51 McCain 44
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - Obama 52 McCain 43
Zogby - Obama 51 McCain 41
PPP - Obama 53 McCain 45

McCain obviously made a mistake concentrating here. All that tightening in the last week was a mirage. And even if it wasn't that would have equaled something like a 52-46 margin and I'm being generous here.


Rhode Island
Actual Results: Obama 63 McCain 35

Not much polling here.

South Carolina
Actual Results: McCain 54 Obama 45

538: McCain 54 Obama 45
Pollster.com: McCain 52 Obama 44
RCP: McCain 53 Obama 43
Last 3 polls:
SurveyUSA - McCain 52 Obama 44
PSRA - McCain 53 Obama 42
YouGov - McCain 52 Obama 44

As expected.


South Dakota
Actual Results: Obama 53 McCain 45

Exactly the same margin and numbers as North Dakota. They oughta just join up.


Tennessee
Actual Results: McCain 57 Obama 42

538: McCain 56 Obama 43
Pollster.com: McCain 54 Obama 42
RCP: McCain 53 Obama 39
Last 3 polls:
YouGov - McCain 53 Obama 44
Research 2000 - McCain 54 Obama 38
Rasmussen - McCain 54 Obama 42

As expected.


Texas
Actual Results: McCain 56 Obama 44

538: McCain 55 Obama 45
Pollster.com: McCain 55 Obama 42
RCP: McCAin 54 Obama 41
Last 3 polls:
YouGov - McCain 54 Obama 43
Rasmussen - McCain 54 Obama 44
U of Texas - Mccain 51 Obama 40

McCain overperformed here a bit.


Utah
Actual Results: McCain 63 Obama 34

MormonLand update. As an aside fuck them for funding Prop 8. Fuck them right through their magical underwear.


Virginia
Actual Results: Obama 52 McCain 47

538: Obama 52 McCain 47
Pollster.com: Obama 51 McCain 45
RCP: Obama 50 McCain 46
Last 3 polls:
Rasmussen - Obama 51 McCain 47
ARG - Obama 51 McCain 47
Zogby - Obama 52 McCain 47

At first this looked liek McCain's best hope, the one toss up where he was overperforming. It just turned out that McCain's precincts nearly all reported early and nearly all Obama's precincts reported late. In the end Virginia turned out exactly as expected.


Vermont
Actual Results: Obama 67 McCain 37

Not much polling.


Washington
Actual Results: Obama 57 McCain 41

For some reason Washington is only 57% reported.


Wisconsin
Actual Results: Obama 56 McCain 43

538: Obama 55 McCain 43
Pollster.com: Obama 53 McCain 41
RCP: Obama 53 McCain 42
Last 3 polls:
Strategic Vision - Obama 53 McCain 40
SurveyUSA - Obama 55 McCain 38
Research 2000 - Obama 53 McCain 42

Polling very accurate again.


West Virginia
Actual Results: McCain 56 Obama 43

538: McCain 54 Obama 44
Pollster.com: McCain 54 Obama 42
RCP: McCain 51 Obama 42
Last 3 polls:
ARG - McCain 53 Obama 42
PPP - McCain 55 Obama 42
Zogby - McCain 50 Obama 40

No comment here except to award the Zogby interactive award for most ridiculous outlier to ARG's October 6th poll showing Obama up 8 in West Virginia.


Wyoming
Actual Results: McCain 65 Obama 33

I still say we should cut Wyoming out of the mainland and drop it into the Arctic Sea for giving us Dick Cheney.

TheMojoPin
11-05-2008, 01:39 PM
And that's the end of my poll, DONK.