Debate #1 - Viewing/drinking Thread!

[GreatAmericanZero]

umm... did you forget who you are talking to?

its on!!

its on like a cherry bomb

[torker]

what the shit was that about?
Johnny "The Greek" McCain

[Snoogans]

yeah... i guess summer ale and octoberfest are girly girl :o

but i like them.... so there!! :p

no its from married with children

Girly Girl, the official beer of No MA'AM. Until they got Yoko for ads

[Sinestro]

is he?

I messed up. He's winning this round on Georgia.

[BeerBandit]

yo... everything from the eighties is making a comeback... neon, skinny jeans, acid wash, and the cold war :o
What about You Can't Do That On Television?

I loved that show.

[booster11373]

are petrodollars worth more then regular dollars?

[brettmojo]

McCain is winning this one.
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/83/thjonstewartdz8.gif

[biozombie]

petrodollars are like euros, i think.

[biozombie]

What about You Can't Do That On Television?

I loved that show.

miss Moose...

[Misteriosa]

are petrodollars worth more then regular dollars?

A petrodollar is a U.S. dollar earned by a country through the sale of petroleum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar

[Sinestro]

Let him take Obama. mcCain is bringing up his record again.

[Don Stugots]

I found an old pic of McCain:

http://www.starman-imaging.com/sep07/v1367qa.jpg

[Drunky McBetidont]

Can we get a listing of the friends Obama and McCain have mentioned during the debate.

viva la france!


http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/BRGPOD/107805~The-Guillotine-Posters.jpg

[biozombie]

I found an old pic of McCain:

http://www.starman-imaging.com/sep07/v1367qa.jpg

AAAAH, LIZARDS!!!

[Sinestro]

I found an old pic of McCain:

http://www.starman-imaging.com/sep07/v1367qa.jpg


Where's Palin's pic???

[Snoogans]

What about You Can't Do That On Television?

I loved that show.

fuck THAT


SALUTE YOUR SHORTS, BITCH

[BeerBandit]

I found an old pic of McCain:

http://www.starman-imaging.com/sep07/v1367qa.jpg
Billions of dollars for Red Dust.

[booster11373]

AAAAH, LIZARDS!!!

Isnt that Costanza's boss at the Yankees?

[KnoxHarrington]

You might not want to go out of your way defending that total clusterfuck Department of Homeland Security, McCain.

[Friday]

Where's Palin's pic???

http://www.movieprop.com/V/dianafinal

[Sinestro]

http://www.movieprop.com/V/dianafinal
:clap:

[biozombie]

fuck THAT


SALUTE YOUR SHORTS, BITCH

fuck Danny Cooksey.

[BeerBandit]

fuck THAT


SALUTE YOUR SHORTS, BITCH
Was that the one with the white kid from Different Strokes? That was after my time.

[Sinestro]

Where's the time limit. Obama was over 2 minutes.


McCain knows Ronald Reagan.

[YourAmishDaddy]

What the hell is this old coot talking about?

[Sinestro]

Palin for President!!!! Just close with that McCain.

[brettmojo]

What the hell is this old coot talking about?
http://doctorwhocollector.com/images/categories/StarWarsOpeningLogo.jpg

[HBox]

McCain says that Obama says missile defense must be proven but when Reagan started SDI it wasn't. Are we not supposed to expect progress 20 years later?

[K.C.]

Conclusion: This debate will not move the polls.


Maybe a +1 to McCain, because I think he used some code words that may scare a few people, but overall, I'd say in terms of the polls it'll be a draw.

Personally, I think Obama won on every issue but Iraq.


Overall, if McCain doesn't see a significant bounce, he's in trouble. He'll most certainly lose the economic debate.

He needed to show Obama as a complete lunatic on foreign policy, and he didn't do that.

[Sinestro]

Here comes the record.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Where's the time limit. Obama was over 2 minutes.


McCain knows Ronald Reagan.

i knew john was old, but i didn't know he was dead. :ohmy: spooky shit

[GreatAmericanZero]

my attention span can't handle something this long!

[Misteriosa]

is mccain trying to shit on bush after taking that huggy pic with him?

[YourAmishDaddy]

Oh please McCain. You've voted against every fucking increase in veteran benefits since you've been in government.

[HBox]

McCain says now that Bbama wont admit the Surge succeeded and yet earlier McCain was hitting Obama because Obama said it had suceeded "beyond his wildest expectations."

[Misteriosa]

i knew john was old, but i didn't know he was dead. :ohmy: spooky shit

he's not dead... yet. i think mccain is borg.

http://z.about.com/d/gocalifornia/1/0/O/l/img_vertchamb.jpg

[Sinestro]

We're Gold medalist olympic champions in basketball. that's how the children of the world look at the US.




POW story.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Palin for President!!!! Just close with that McCain.

http://www.thesoundsofhistory.com/Adolf_Hitler_1928_sieg_heil_hail_to_victory_salute .jpg

[Sinestro]

Mrs. McCain for 1st lady.

[KnoxHarrington]

McCain definitely did not land any solid blows on Obama, and this is the debate that's supposedly covering his strong suit. He's in trouble.

Next week should be a lot of fun.

[brettmojo]

McCain says now that Bbama wont admit the Surge succeeded and yet earlier McCain was hitting Obama because Obama said it had suceeded "beyond his wildest expectations."
http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/9/97/Crazy_Old_Man.gif

[thejives]

Dudes.

I played the drinking game and I'm trashed!


What a horrible debate.

[BeerBandit]

This debate actually impressed me. As someone who is truly on the fence (a republican who voted independent 00 and 04), I've been quite blown away by how they actually argued with each other, and really focused on the questions.


I still hate them both, however.

[KnoxHarrington]

One of the "uncommitted" voters on CBS just compared this debate to the Kennedy-Nixon debate, with Obama being the cool, collected Kennedy and McCain as the twitchy, grouchy Nixon.

[DiabloSammich]

I went into this debate with a preference towards Obama, but also confident that I could accept McCain as president.



I leave this debate with a preference towards Obama, and hoping McCain gets hit by a fucking bus.

His outright refusal to look at the person he was debating was infuriating.

[booster11373]

McCain won the Whiteness factor

[Sinestro]

I went into this debate with a preference towards Obama, but also confident that I could accept McCain as president.



I leave this debate with a preference towards Obama, and hoping McCain gets hit by a fucking bus.

His outright refusal to look at the person he was debating was infuriating.

What you expect? McCain to go in there without pre-conditions?

[KnoxHarrington]

CBS is saying that they called Kissinger for his comment, and he basically confirmed what Obama said was his position: he does support talks with Iran and other countries without pre-conditions, but not, perhaps, at the head of state level at first.

Which is exactly what Obama said.

So McCain totally fucking lied.

[K.C.]

Biden making the rounds.

HAHAHAHAHA.

The Campaign refused to let Sarah Palin talk and is sending Rudy around on their behalf.

[brettmojo]

CBS is saying that they called Kissinger for his comment, and he basically confirmed what Obama said was his position: he does support talks with Iran and other countries without pre-conditions, but not, perhaps, at the head of state level at first.

Which is exactly what Obama said.

So McCain totally fucking lied.
Maybe he was just confused. It is nearly 3 hours after his bedtime.

[torker]

McCain won
QFT

[brettmojo]

Biden making the rounds.

HAHAHAHAHA.

The Campaign refused to let Sarah Palin talk and is sending Rudy around on their behalf.
I can't wait for the VP debate. It's gonna' be a raping.

Hopefully Palin has money on her to buy her own kit afterwards.

[Dirtybird12]

Im voting for Obama. But I feel he lost this debate. I feel he agreed too much with Mccain. I also think the mccain folks will be using the tapes of Obama saying "John's right" over 10 times... in future promos. but what do i know..

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[JerseySean]

Conclusion: This debate will not move the polls.


Maybe a +1 to McCain, because I think he used some code words that may scare a few people, but overall, I'd say in terms of the polls it'll be a draw.

Personally, I think Obama won on every issue but Iraq.


Overall, if McCain doesn't see a significant bounce, he's in trouble. He'll most certainly lose the economic debate.

He needed to show Obama as a complete lunatic on foreign policy, and he didn't do that.

Wrong...By monday's gallup, McCain will be up 1 on Obama which is a 4 point bump.

[thejives]

Im voting for Obama. But I feel he lost this debate. I feel he agreed too much with Mccain. I also think the mccain folks will be using the tapes of Obama saying "John's right" over 10 times... in future promos. but what do i know..

.

Obama was really nice... but mccain would be dumb to use tapes of his opponent agreeing with him in an ad.

McCain came off as twitchy and bitchy..


Christ I'm drunk. Fuck you GAZ!!!

[brettmojo]

Obama was really nice... but mccain would be dumb to use tapes of his opponent agreeing with him in an ad.
Like using Hilary Clinton in one?

[JerseySean]

Obama was really nice... but mccain would be dumb to use tapes of his opponent agreeing with him in an ad.

McCain came off as twitchy and bitchy..


Christ I'm drunk. Fuck you GAZ!!!

Wrong, it would be smart. And they already did.

[BeerBandit]

Im voting for Obama. But I feel he lost this debate. I feel he agreed too much with Mccain. I also think the mccain folks will be using the tapes of Obama saying "John's right" over 10 times... in future promos. but what do i know..

.
I don't know if either won. It seemed as though McCain was throwing a lot of bullshit out because of Obama's near constant disputes and corrections, but McCain did expose a lot of Obama's scary liberal tendencies.

Bottom line, their both equal and let's see how Uberliberal vs Hyperconservative plays out. I hope someone brings up evolution.

[NewYorkDragons80]

CBS is saying that they called Kissinger for his comment, and he basically confirmed what Obama said was his position: he does support talks with Iran and other countries without pre-conditions, but not, perhaps, at the head of state level at first.

Which is exactly what Obama said.

So McCain totally fucking lied.
What Kissinger said:
KISSINGER: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic...

(CROSSTALK)

SESNO: Put at a very high level right out of the box?

KISSINGER: Initially, yes. And I always believed that the best way to begin a negotiation is to tell the other side exactly what you have in mind and what you are -- what the outcome is that you're trying to achieve so that they have something that they can react to.

Now, the permanent members of the Security Council, plus Japan and Germany, have all said nuclear weapons in Iran are unacceptable. They've never explained what they mean by this. So if we go into a negotiation, we ought to have a clear understanding of what is it we're trying to prevent. What is it going to do if we can't achieve what we're talking about?

But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiations and work it out with other countries and with our own government.
There's the full quote. McCain expressly said not the head of state level and acknowledged the sub-levels.

[thejives]

This is what McCain looked like

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep6/ldvader4t.jpg

[biozombie]

I'm pretty sure that beer won over wine and/or vodka. :drunk:

[thejives]

Wine won.



my liver lost.

[Sinestro]

All I got from the debate is that McCain has a record and that Obama's still black.


McCain wins.

[Sinestro]

And that corn and pork products aren't good.

[Sinestro]

And McCain knows alot of old people.

[thejives]

I blame the whites.

[Hottub]

A lot of "if I am elected" and "we need change"
Slight edge to the mick.

Whatever, I've been drinking beer.
And whatever the outcome, I will be drinking whole lot more beer.
Come January, I'll be shacking up with DolaMight.

[torker]

Now I can watch Olberman and yell at my TV.

[DiabloSammich]

I blame the whites.




Nice try.

[brettmojo]

All I got from the debate is that McCain has a record and that Obama's still black.


McCain wins.
What's that? Record?

Is that like a Mp3?

[KnoxHarrington]

What Kissinger said:

There's the full quote. McCain expressly said not the head of state level and acknowledged the sub-levels.

But the thing was that he was trying to make it appear that Obama would go crawling to Iran and other countries to talk, when, in actuality, when you look at Obama's actual position, it's not really that different from what Kissinger said. In fact, it's pretty much the same.

McCain distorted Obama's position. That was a lie.

[JerseySean]

But the thing was that he was trying to make it appear that Obama would go crawling to Iran and other countries to talk, when, in actuality, when you look at Obama's actual position, it's not really that different from what Kissinger said. In fact, it's pretty much the same.

McCain distorted Obama's position. That was a lie.

It is called being a good debater. And McCain won that round.

[KnoxHarrington]

It is called being a good debater. And McCain won that round.

Until people ask, "So what did Kissinger say again?" and find out it's pretty much exactly what Obama said.

Just repeating a bullshit lie over and over is not "debate". That's Hannity crap.

[thejives]

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You were wrong. You're still wrong. Go home to your houses McCain.

[BeerBandit]

I'm pretty sure that beer won over wine and/or vodka. :drunk:
wrong wrong wrong

Wine wins hands down. It's harvest season. Beer season isn't for another month.

[NewYorkDragons80]

And that corn and pork products aren't good.

Hoo boy! I could talk for hours about how corn is gradually destroying this country. No joke, it is.

[BlackSpider]

According to McCain, Obama "doesn't understand".
Which proves that he isn't Black Earl, like I suspected.

[Hottub]

Until people ask, "So what did Kissinger say again?" and find out it's pretty much exactly what Obama said.

Just repeating a bullshit lie over and over is not "debate". That's Hannity crap.

Dude, the people in your neck of the woods ate it up. And for better or for worse, that is a huge, unified block.
I hate hayseeds more every day.

Not you, of course. Just sayin'

[AKA]

The topic was foreign policy, and Obama both held his own and looked Presidential - McCain made Bob Dole look spry and hep. He was twitchy, and negative and continued to lie and lie and lie.

I actually feel better when I hear about the times they agree with one-another - the gauntlet that has been thrown out there is to change the way politics are done, and McCain seemed out of touch in his distain and continued disrespect for the Democratic nominee. Obama is ready to lead right this second.

[brettmojo]

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You were wrong. You're still wrong. Go home to your houses McCain.
But but... He has a record.???

[DiabloSammich]

It is called being a good debater. And McCain won that round.


Is part of being a good debater never looking at your opponent?

I hate to beat a dead horse but that bugged the shit out of me.

[thejives]

Yes.

Too true. Obama did what he had to do.

McCain better not unsuspend that campaign.

[DiabloSammich]

I got a bracelet, too.


Fuck your bracelet, old man.

[K.C.]

I got a bracelet, too.


Fuck your bracelet, old man.

That was my favorite part.



And doesn't it warm your heart, Diablo, to see Biden making the rounds to sweep up the debris of this debate.

Where's the Moosehunter???

[BeerBandit]

Hoo boy! I could talk for hours about how corn is gradually destroying this country. No joke, it is.
Corn is bad for eating and feeding.

This is why we must annex Mexico and turn it into a corn country solely for Ethanol production.

[Snoogans]

Corn is bad for eating and feeding.

This is why we must annex Mexico and turn it into a corn country solely for Ethanol production.

can we still grow Blue Agavi plants too? PLEASE

[thejives]

Sammich has a bracelet?

Fuck you. I HAVE A BRACELET MUTHER FUCKER!

[DiabloSammich]

That was my favorite part.



And doesn't it warm your heart, Diablo, to see Biden making the rounds to sweep up the debris of this debate.

Where's the Moosehunter???



Last I saw her the Ukranian Prime Minister was telling her she had "nice cans."

[HBox]

An instant poll and results of a focus group:

A CBS News poll of 500 voters found Obama 40 McCain 22 38 Tie.

A MediaCurves focus group had the following:

Independents: Obama 61 McCain 39

Republicans: McCain 90 Obama 10

Democrats: Obama 93 McCain 7

I will post links when I can find them.

[DiabloSammich]

Sammich has a bracelet?

Fuck you. I HAVE A BRACELET MUTHER FUCKER!


You think you're special cause you got a bracelet?

My bracelet wipes it's ass with your bracelet.

[Sinestro]

I'm going to Chinatown to see it North Koreans are taller than South Koreans.

[HBox]

Funny exchange on CNN following their interview with Joe Biden:

Wolf Blitzer: We asked to speak to Sarah Palin as well and were declined. We hope to hear from her in the future.

Anderson Cooper: Don't hold your breath.

She's officially a living joke.

[BlackSpider]

An instant poll and results of a focus group:

A CBS News poll of 500 voters found Obama 40 McCain 22 38 Tie.

A MediaCurves focus group had the following:

Independents: Obama 61 McCain 39

Republicans: McCain 90 Obama 10

Democrats: Obama 93 McCain 7I will post links when I can find them.

Polls are useless...

[HBox]

Here's a link to the CBS poll. A clarification: It was a poll of 500 uncommitted voters. (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/26/politics/horserace/entry4482028.shtml)

[brettmojo]

Republicans: McCain 90 Obama 10
Blah blah blah... McCain age joke... Yada yada yada.

[spoon]

Funny exchange on CNN following their interview with Joe Biden:

Wolf Blitzer: We asked to speak to Sarah Palin as well and were declined. We hope to hear from her in the future.

Anderson Cooper: Don't hold your breath.

She's officially a living joke.

That's hilarlious, I wish I caught it. I wasn't exactly overwhelmed in any direction, but McCain did seemingly act like a baby throughout the whole event.

[Sinestro]

That's hilarlious, I wish I caught it. I wasn't exactly overwhelmed in any direction, but McCain did seemingly act like a baby throughout the whole event.


Spoken like a true liberal.

[DiabloSammich]

I'm going to Chinatown to see it North Koreans are taller than South Koreans.



This honestly is the only thing I learned tonight.


Who knew?

[K.C.]

Christ...even Dick Morris thinks Obama won.


Obama must have DESTROYED if that's the case.

[Jughead]

I'm Joe average.....I'm not political I Just watched and I thought McCain was better....That is all ..Juggy

[Sinestro]

This honestly is the only thing I learned tonight.


Who knew?

McCain knew. He has the experience and the record.

[HBox]

A CNN poll: Obama 52 McCain 39

[spoon]

Spoken like a true liberal.

And just WHAT exactly makes my comment to be "spoken like a true liberal". Explain this, bc I stated pretty openly that nobody clearly won this thing in my mind. So please, get off the high horse as if you nailed me for calling out a man who wants to be president for acting like he's above the other candidate. Debate, don't whine.

[HBox]

McCain knew. He has the experience and the record.

He certainly has my vote for Federal Nutritionist.

[thejives]

You think you're special cause you got a bracelet?

My bracelet wipes it's ass with your bracelet.

MY BRACELET ASS RAPES YOUR BRACELET AND GETS YOU ASS PREGNANT AND MAKES YOU HAVE THE ASS BABY YOU FUCK

[brettmojo]

McCain knew. He has the experience and the record.
http://www.sprinterrecords.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/coffinlidscover.jpg

[Sinestro]

And just WHAT exactly makes my comment to be "spoken like a true liberal". Explain this, bc I stated pretty openly that nobody clearly won this thing in my mind. So please, get off the high horse as if you nailed me for calling out a man who wants to be president for acting like he's above the other candidate. Debate, don't whine.


I'm just trying to be like McCain. Take a chill pill dude. Don't get a stroke over it.

[spoon]

Oddly enough, I'd like to see the wives have a debate.

For the fuck of it.

[spoon]

I'm just trying to be like McCain. Take a chill pill dude. Don't get a stroke over it.

chill pill ?

Your verbiage is as old as McCain.

[Sinestro]

Oddly enough, I'd like to see the wives have a debate.

For the fuck of it.

Mrs. McCain for 1st lady.

[HBox]

Oddly enough, I'd like to see the wives have a debate.

For the fuck of it.

Me too.

[thejives]

I'm just trying to be like McCain. Take a chill pill dude. Don't get a stroke over it.

yes. let's all calm down.




Like Obama was in that debate. Not like twitchy McCain.

[spoon]

Mrs. McCain for 1st lady.

She might be the first Cougar 1st lady ever. You'll never keep the ronfez.net Milfhunter away! (Justice4All)

[Sinestro]

chill pill ?

Your verbiage is as old as McCain.


Why you young whippersnapper. That's what's wrong with the world nowadays. You young folks don't got no respect. Next thing you know, you'll be jaywalking. Back in my day we used the crosswalks.

[brettmojo]

I'm just trying to be like McCain..

Then you should go find some Vietnamese and surrender to them.

Oddly enough, I'd like to see the wives have a debate.

For the fuck of it.
They should have a Betty Crocker bake off.

[DiabloSammich]

MY BRACELET ASS RAPES YOUR BRACELET AND GETS YOU ASS PREGNANT AND MAKES YOU HAVE THE ASS BABY YOU FUCK



You see, Jim, thejives just doesn't understand about bracelets and how they work. I've been around. I know the fundamental differences between bracelets and how they are connected. His naivety is showing.

[K.C.]

Like Obama was in that debate. Not like twitchy McCain.

If you kept thinking you saw VC snipers crawling into the rafters to try and 'get even,' you'd be twitchy, too.

[spoon]

Me too.

If Mrs. McCain lands a skeletor saddle punch, is it a hate crime?

[PhilDeez]

A CNN poll: Obama 52 McCain 39

Fox: 82 McCain 16 Obama, big suprise.

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Mrs. McCain may look nice, but did you see Mrs. Obama's arse? KAPOW!

[Sinestro]

Are we sure those bracelets aren't those sex bracelets that the young kids wear in school?

[thejives]

You see, Jim, thejives just doesn't understand about bracelets and how they work. I've been around. I know the fundamental differences between bracelets and how they are connected. His naivety is showing.

that's spelled nievete.

AND YOU"RE MY FUCKING ASS CUNT BITCH MUTHER FUCKING BITCH ASS

If you kept thinking you saw VC snipers crawling into the rafters to try and 'get even,' you'd be twitchy, too.

his service to are country is admirable and I respec him for it.

But he's too nutty to drive a car much less be president.

[spoon]

I'm just trying to be like McCain. Take a chill pill dude. Don't get a stroke over it.

Then you should go find some Vietnamese and surrender to them.




Or crash a few planes.

[K.C.]

Fox: 82 McCain 16 Obama, big suprise.

That's the only poll that matters!!

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Fox: 82 McCain 16 Obama, big suprise.

Eww.

I went into this debate with no opinion on either candidate. I could not get over McCain's excessive reminiscing and tugging at heart-strings, as well as his smirking and chuckling. What a complete douchebag.

[brettmojo]

You know, I've stayed at a Hilton before... Gotta' say not bad digs. I don't know why the hell McCain thinks it's such a big deal.

[brettmojo]

Fox: 82 McCain 16 Obama, big suprise.
Again, la la la McCain age joke...

[thejives]

I think the headline will be, McCain can't put Obama away on Natinonal Security, and no deal has been reached on the bailout.

And then we move on to debate #2: Alaskan fucktard vs. Delawaran werewolf.

[spoon]

Eww.

I went into this debate with no opinion on either candidate. I could not get over McCain's excessive reminiscing and tugging at heart-strings, as well as his smirking and chuckling. What a complete douchebag.

I have to agree, it came off really bad. Someone in my family though Obama was too nice by giving Mr. McCain credit here and there, along with being respectful. I went the other way with it and would love to see our debates be civil and focus on future policies and direction, rather than antagonistic attitudes and past glories/bad military careers. Seriously, the only thing McCain was good at in the military was crashing planes and being a prisioner.

[spoon]

And then we move on to debate #2: Alaskan fucktard vs. Delawaran werewolf.

Shit, now I can't wait for the next debate!!

[Sinestro]

I think the headline will be, McCain can't put Obama away on Natinonal Security, and no deal has been reached on the bailout.

And then we move on to debate #2: Alaskan fucktard vs. Delawaran werewolf.

The Alaskan fucktard is going to win. How different is hunting werewolf to hunting moose?

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

I have to agree, it came off really bad. Someone in my family though Obama was too nice by giving Mr. McCain credit here and there, along with being respectful. I went the other way with it and would love to see our debates be civil and focus on future policies and direction, rather than antagonistic attitudes and past glories/bad military careers. Seriously, the only thing McCain was good at in the military was crashing planes and being a prisioner.

:lol:

Yeah, Obama fucking owned in that he was civil and gave McCain credit. Whereas McCain didn't even look at Obama.

[tele7]

Then you should go find some Vietnamese and surrender to them.


They should have a Betty Crocker bake off.

Cookie Party!!!

[brettmojo]

I really don't understand why the Obama campaign even acknowledges Fox News at this point.

[FezsAssistant]

Eww.

I went into this debate with no opinion on either candidate. I could not get over McCain's excessive reminiscing and tugging at heart-strings, as well as his smirking and chuckling. What a complete douchebag.

Obama was constantly smirking and chuckling. Something tells me you didn't go into this debate with no opinion on either candidate.

[brettmojo]

Obama was constantly smirking and chuckling. Something tells me you didn't go into this debate with no opinion on either candidate.
Psst... Obama is the black guy.

[thejives]

McCain was chuckling like a goddam wind up toy.

But he was scary about it. Christ look at it. It's messy scary.

[spoon]

Psst... Obama is the black guy.

Nice!














I admit, I forgot who was who!

[spoon]

Or whom was whom by that of who are u.

[brettmojo]

Wow. CNN is really ripping on Palin. It's hilarious.

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Obama was constantly smirking and chuckling. Something tells me you didn't go into this debate with no opinion on either candidate.

Yeah, at things that actually deserved a smirk and chuckle. McCain just looked stupid smirking at nothing. I really gave McCain the benefit of the doubt, but he really did not carry himself well.

[spoon]

yankees suck

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Yeah, at things that actually deserved a smirk and chuckle. McCain just looked stupid smirking at nothing. I really gave McCain the benefit of the doubt, but he really did not carry himself well.

Basically, it was constant "I've got this in the bag" sort of bullshit.

[thejives]

McCain looked like an animatronic aged chucky.

[brettmojo]

yankees suck
*chuckle

Yes.

*smirk

[spoon]

yankees suck

Indeed!

I just wanted to quote myself like the trend starting JAnd!

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

McCain looked like an animatronic aged chucky.

I thought he was going to keel over at any moment.

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Indeed!

I just wanted to quote myself like the trend starting JAnd!

ADORABLE!

[spoon]

ADORABLE!

http://www.hot-screensaver.com/wp-myimages/adorable-puppies.jpg

I just can't help it you know.

[K.C.]

For the record, I'll sum up what I thought about this on three different levels.

-For people like me, who follow this stuff closely, Obama won on most issues.

-In terms of how this debate will play with average people, I'd rank it a tie

-In terms of political momentum, it's a huge win for Obama. This was suppose to be McCain's night. McCain should have killed Obama on foreign policy. It's the crux of his candidacy. The fact that he didn't, is a HUGE momentum changer in this campaign.


And from the sounds of things, I'm actually being generous to McCain. Every network has scored it for Obama decisively, including the Instapolls.

Even Fox is kind of downplaying McCain a bit. That's shocking.

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

http://www.hot-screensaver.com/wp-myimages/adorable-puppies.jpg

I just can't help it you know.

http://www.canadafreeads.com/images/20080616115425_felick.jpg

[spoon]

Ouch, KC just called me average bc I wasn't truly wowed by Obama!

You mother f'r! :furious:

[GreatAmericanZero]

http://www.canadafreeads.com/images/20080616115425_felick.jpg

wow, andrea is posting Pug pictures...which is weird cuz she HATES pugs

[Recyclerz]

I usually find myself at odds with the majority on these things but here's my take:

If the atavistic, chest-beating tactics hold sway (like in 2004) then McCain won. If people have learned anything during the last eight years then they may not fall for it again.

McCain was forceful, but full of shit, on most of his points.

I think that Obama held his own on the substance of the arguments but I do wish that on that last shot by McCain that he didn't have the experience or judgement to be President that Obama had jumped a little uglier with him & shoved it back in McCain's face with a litany of instances where McCain is wrong.

[thejives]

Thaaaaank you recyclerz

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

wow, andrea is posting Pug pictures...which is weird cuz she HATES pugs

I wondered how long it would take you to get in here and see the vicious Bichon vs. Pug battle.

[JerseySean]

http://www.politico.com/rogersimon/

[SP1!]

For the record, I'll sum up what I thought about this on three different levels.

-For people like me, who follow this stuff closely, Obama won on most issues.

-In terms of how this debate will play with average people, I'd rank it a tie

-In terms of political momentum, it's a huge win for Obama. This was suppose to be McCain's night. McCain should have killed Obama on foreign policy. It's the crux of his candidacy. The fact that he didn't, is a HUGE momentum changer in this campaign.


And from the sounds of things, I'm actually being generous to McCain. Every network has scored it for Obama decisively, including the Instapolls.

Even Fox is kind of downplaying McCain a bit. That's shocking.

Obama only wins because most here support him. I didnt get to watch it all but it sounds like mccain didnt speak very well but his plans to me make more sense, cutting back on government funding is essential and I cant understand why anyone wouldnt bash obama for thinking earmarking funds are a good thing, also giving people tax breaks wont help them very much but giving medium to large businesses breaks would help create jobs.

Most people go into a debate with a predetermined idea of who won before the introductions, I dont think either one would do what they said if elected but I would like less spending and a lot of government funding cuts to crap programs.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I wondered how long it would take you to get in here and see the vicious Bichon vs. Pug battle.

ok Pugs rule v. bichons

but did you not agree that when you take your dog to Pugfest it would be cuter than any other dog there?

FACE!

[chubbyknuckles]

I've got to say that the moderator was a prick, and mccain should have nailed obama, on huge points, but he just played up the bipartisan game. Useless, shit John, and Obama wins this debate because you kept on the kid gloves and never looked at him!!!

[thejives]

Yeah... why won't Mccain look at people.

He's a non-looking twitcher.

[SP1!]

This headline:

Bono praises McCain, Obama and Americans

....is why I hate political news sites now.

Why the fuck does that deserve to be on the news tabs for CNN? I dont give a shit what bono thinks and I dont understand why anyone else does.

[Drunky McBetidont]

jerseysean loves osama and his momma :wub:

best unbiased poster ever!!!

jerseysean for commandant in 08:clap:

[chubbyknuckles]

and I like Mccain, but jeeeez cmon!

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Obama only wins because most here support him. I didnt get to watch it all but it sounds like mccain didnt speak very well but his plans to me make more sense, cutting back on government funding is essential and I cant understand why anyone wouldnt bash obama for thinking earmarking funds are a good thing, also giving people tax breaks wont help them very much but giving medium to large businesses breaks would help create jobs.

Most people go into a debate with a predetermined idea of who won before the introductions, I dont think either one would do what they said if elected but I would like less spending and a lot of government funding cuts to crap programs.

Good points. Personally, as a single individual with no dependents, instead of cutting taxes I would rather keep paying what I'm paying now with confidence that my tax dollars are being spent wisely.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Obama only wins because most here support him. I didnt get to watch it all but it sounds like mccain didnt speak very well but his plans to me make more sense, cutting back on government funding is essential and I cant understand why anyone wouldnt bash obama for thinking earmarking funds are a good thing, also giving people tax breaks wont help them very much but giving medium to large businesses breaks would help create jobs.

Most people go into a debate with a predetermined idea of who won before the introductions, I dont think either one would do what they said if elected but I would like less spending and a lot of government funding cuts to crap programs.

yes it seems true that most americans living in the united states support him. thanks for bringing this up budday :)

[JerseySean]

jerseysean loves osama and his momma :wub:

best unbiased poster ever!!!

jerseysean for commandant in 08:clap:

I agree for commandant, but are you saying that this is an unbiased board? ROnfez.net for Obama, unbiased and fair.

[thejives]

Obama wins because he looks presidential instead of fidgety and insane.

[HBox]

yes it seems true that most americans living in the united states support him. thanks for bringing this up budday :)

The only reason Obama won the debate is because more people thought he won.

[SP1!]

I also like cnn's electoral college map, they still have georgia as leaning mccain when obama has already pulled most of the people out of here because they know they have lost the state. Obama isnt going to win the south and most likely that includes florida even with heavy dem influence around miami, shit he will most likely lose ohio and indiana as well.

Everyone speaking up is so sure obama is going to win but I still just dont see it happening and have resigned myself to at least 4 years of mccain, but then again I dont see much difference if obama wins either. I hate all these elections, they never really tell people where they stand, obama says hes about change then goes a picks a career politician as a running mate, then mccain is a maverick but picks an obvious attention getter for his running mate when Romney was the obvious choice.

This election sucks and I dont think I will be happy whomever wins.

[thejives]

I also like cnn's electoral college map, they still have georgia as leaning mccain when obama has already pulled most of the people out of here because they know they have lost the state. Obama isnt going to win the south and most likely that includes florida even with heavy dem influence around miami, shit he will most likely lose ohio and indiana as well.

Everyone speaking up is so sure obama is going to win but I still just dont see it happening and have resigned myself to at least 4 years of mccain, but then again I dont see much difference if obama wins either. I hate all these elections, they never really tell people where they stand, obama says hes about change then goes a picks a career politician as a running mate, then mccain is a maverick but picks an obvious attention getter for his running mate when Romney was the obvious choice.

This election sucks and I dont think I will be happy whomever wins.

since it doesn't matter, I formally ask you to vote for Obama.

[SP1!]

yes it seems true that most americans living in the united states support him. thanks for bringing this up budday :)
No most people here support him, I could point you to numerous boards who said mccain won, not really an admission.

Obama wins because he looks presidential instead of fidgety and insane.
Yes based upon looks, thats a good idea.

I would almost have the insane guy to keep the world in check thinking "Whats that crazy fuck gonna do next!?"

[JerseySean]

The only reason Obama won the debate is because more people thought he won.

Bingo! Monday's tracking polls shoudl tell the story, but tonight, more thought Obama won.

[SP1!]

since it doesn't matter, I formally ask you to vote for Obama.

Even if I think it doesnt matter, I wont vote for someone I dont believe will make a damn difference, besides I live in georgia and mccain has this state sewn up.

[thejives]

No most people [B]here [/B

I would almost have the insane guy to keep the world in check thinking "Whats that crazy fuck gonna do next!?"


Gread idea. We just had an incompetent fuck. Let's get an insane one to follow up and make sure we're completely fucked. Then his witchcraft-protected VP can take over to ensure we're entirely tota-fucked.

C'mon.

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

Everyone speaking up is so sure obama is going to win but I still just dont see it happening and have resigned myself to at least 4 years of mccain, but then again I dont see much difference if obama wins either.

I agree. So many people are confident that Obama will win, and at this moment I'd also prefer it, but I know in reality that McCain will probably win because there are lots of old people and racists in the US. (Har har.)

[DolaMight]

what was that square box in mccain's back? was that a model gwb-316? Who was feeding him answers...

Edit: Wait just caught the replay, that was just one of those old people humpbacks.

[SP1!]

Bingo! Monday's tracking polls shoudl tell the story, but tonight, more thought Obama won.
Yeah here is their actual quote of people they used:
CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.

Not exactly something that really represents 330million people

Gread idea. We just had an incompetent fuck. Let's get an insane one to follow up and make sure we're completely fucked. Then his witchcraft-protected VP can take over to ensure we're entirely tota-fucked.

C'mon.

Yeah you could say the same thing about everyone who practices religion, there are kooks out there just like these people but most politicians just go along with it to keep their public happy. I dont believe that obama is religious but he goes along with it to try and lure that segment happy, I still cant see why other people refuse to see shit like that.

[thejives]

Yeah you could say the same thing about everyone who practices religion, there are kooks out there just like these people but most politicians just go along with it to keep their public happy. I dont believe that obama is religious but he goes along with it to try and lure that segment happy, I still cant see why other people refuse to see shit like that.

What are you even talking about?
This isn't theology, this is government. McCain just tried to act like a serious leader during the debate and yet he sings songs about bombing Iran and suspends his campaign on a whim. He won't look his opponent in the face. He should not be president.

[JerseySean]

What are you even talking about?
This isn't theology, this is government. McCain just tried to act like a serious leader during the debate and yet he sings songs about bombing Iran and suspends his campaign on a whim. He won't look his opponent in the face. He should not be president.

Should someone be President if they lied on their bar application?

[SP1!]

What are you even talking about?
This isn't theology, this is government. McCain just tried to act like a serious leader during the debate and yet he sings songs about bombing Iran and suspends his campaign on a whim. He won't look his opponent in the face. He should not be president.

You were the one who brought up the witchcraft thing, which was done by a crazy kenyan preacher brought in be a guest at her church, do you know what you are spouting or are you just throwing out what lib blogs are saying?

I dont think mccain is any crazier than obama but I think both are an improvement over bush, but thats not saying a whole lot.

[JerseySean]

.... or are you just throwing out what lib blogs are saying?
.

Ill answer for him, yes

[thejives]

You were the one who brought up the witchcraft thing, which was done by a crazy kenyan preacher brought in be a guest at her church, do you know what you are spouting or are you just throwing out what lib blogs are saying?

I dont think mccain is any crazier than obama but I think both are an improvement over bush, but thats not saying a whole lot.

I get it. You're so undecided you're offended by the idea that someone wouldn't want McCain to be president.

In 2000 I went to McCain events. I cheered and clapped. This is an entirely different candidate. he's a walking betrayal of his own principles.

But sure, write me off as a librul. Whatever makes you comfortable. McCain Palin is a Bush apologist administration. Obama Biden is a roll up your sleeves and shake things up administration.

[JerseySean]

I get it. You're so undecided you're offended by the idea that someone wouldn't want McCain to be president.

In 2000 I went to McCain events. I cheered and clapped. This is an entirely different candidate. he's a walking betrayal of his own principles.


How so?

[spoon]

I get it. You're so undecided you're offended by the idea that someone wouldn't want McCain to be president.

In 2000 I went to McCain events. I cheered and clapped. This is an entirely different candidate. he's a walking betrayal of his own principles.

But sure, write me off as a librul. Whatever makes you comfortable. McCain Palin is a Bush apologist administration. Obama Biden is a roll up your sleeves and shake things up administration.

I couldn't agree more. While I did not attend any past McCain events, I surely liked the old (funny twist here) McCain versus this new anything to please the base and get elected McCain. Part of me holds out hope that once elected he'll say fuck the base and do what he once believed was needed to right this country, but I seriously doubt it.

As someone stated earlier, either candidate would appear to be light years better than Bush. Still, that not a sure thing, no matter how bad Bush has been. I can only hope the candidate that's best for the country as a whole gets in, and right now based on my knowledge it's Obama.

[brettmojo]

McCain is completely different than 2000. I liked him then, he didn't seem to be just going along with the 'Pubs. Now it seems he's just resigning to please them and whoever else just to get elected. It's sad. Palin is a perfect example of that.

[Misteriosa]

Hoo boy! I could talk for hours about how corn is gradually destroying this country. No joke, it is.
the plan of the native americans is finally coming to fruition...
Oddly enough, I'd like to see the wives have a debate.

For the fuck of it.
the harvard grad vs the beer heiress... that would be awesome...

http://www.hot-screensaver.com/wp-myimages/adorable-puppies.jpg

I just can't help it you know.
yay puppies!!
http://www.canadafreeads.com/images/20080616115425_felick.jpg
yay!! more puppies!!

[bigfatfuck]

I think it is safe to say that whoever you were rooting for going into the debate is who won in your eyes. Has anyone ever completely switched their opinion based on a debate?

[brettmojo]

I think it is safe to say that whoever you were rooting for going into the debate is who won in your eyes. Has anyone ever completely switched their opinion based on a debate?
http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2003_Old_School/Thumb/003OSC_Will_Ferrell_032.jpg

[epo]

I think it is safe to say that whoever you were rooting for going into the debate is who won in your eyes. Has anyone ever completely switched their opinion based on a debate?

Generally speaking the debates don't move the polls more than 3 points so they aren't a gigantic deal. What do though is to add to the narrative that the campaigns are telling.

And now 13 hours later, I must watch the debate!

[Foster]

Whats wrong with the President we got? he....
oh yeah...never mind

[NewYorkDragons80]

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http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/05/107-tobias-thunder-sm.jpg

Douche chills!

[epo]

My initial reactions to the debate: Blah.

Obviously I thought on the issues, that Obama was right...but it was a relatively non-eventful debate. McCain was really dismissive, almost arrogant towards Obama which I personally found very off-putting...but I'm not McCain's target audience.

Obama did hold up with McCain on foreign policy, which was perceived as his greatest weakness. But we won't remember this as one of the "great debates" in American history.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i noticed this seems to be the pic the media is mostly using from the debate

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080927/i/ra3527964406.jpg?x=303&y=345&q=85&sig=uGq8Pu9eu2kKWKs.M2_d4A--

is it just me or does it look like an orderly helping an old man at a retirement home?

[A.J.]

You know, I've stayed at a Hilton before... Gotta' say not bad digs. I don't know why the hell McCain thinks it's such a big deal.

When I was in Hanoi a couple of months ago, I stayed at the Hanoi Hilton (http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/HANHITW-Hilton-Hanoi-Opera-hotel/index.do). It was sweet!

[scottinnj]

Didn't even watch. How many of you are hungover today?

[Zorro]

My initial reactions to the debate: Blah.

Obviously I thought on the issues, that Obama was right...but it was a relatively non-eventful debate. McCain was really dismissive, almost arrogant towards Obama which I personally found very off-putting...but I'm not McCain's target audience.

Obama did hold up with McCain on foreign policy, which was perceived as his greatest weakness. But we won't remember this as one of the "great debates" in American history.

Insighful comments by EPO as always

I did not get to see the debate, but have been listening to the roundtables on POTUS and the reviews in WSJ and NY Times... seems like your comments are dead on.

As one commentator on POTUS said this morning if you were votong for McCain before the debate you'll vote for him after....and if you were voting for Obama before then you'll be for Obama after.

Not a game changer... an author I respect declared Jim Lehrer the winner...which makes me think I'll have to watch it on DVR today.b

[GreatAmericanZero]

Didn't even watch. How many of you are hungover today?

i passed out at 2am, woke up at noon, walked to skyline chili and got a blt wrap, now i feel like a million bucks

[JPMNICK]

when is the next one?

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

i noticed this seems to be the pic the media is mostly using from the debate

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080927/i/ra3527964406.jpg?x=303&y=345&q=85&sig=uGq8Pu9eu2kKWKs.M2_d4A--

is it just me or does it look like an orderly helping an old man at a retirement home?

GOOD CALL! That's what McCain looked like all night. He wouldn't even look at Obama. Such a douchebag.

[GreatAmericanZero]

when is the next one?

i dont know, but isnt it at Hofstra University? I went to summer camp there!

[JPMNICK]

i dont know, but isnt it at Hofstra University? I went to summer camp there!

yea i know one of them is at Hofstra. we should all go then invite McCain and Obama back to bar 9 for an after party

[GreatAmericanZero]

yea i know one of them is at Hofstra. we should all go then invite McCain and Obama back to bar 9 for an after party

Hofstra is in long island. Take them to FH Rileys in the heart of huntington village (400 New York Ave). I think they would have fun hanging out with brother Elmo

[spoon]

My initial reactions to the debate: Blah.

Obviously I thought on the issues, that Obama was right...but it was a relatively non-eventful debate. McCain was really dismissive, almost arrogant towards Obama which I personally found very off-putting...but I'm not McCain's target audience.

Obama did hold up with McCain on foreign policy, which was perceived as his greatest weakness. But we won't remember this as one of the "great debates" in American history.

Exactly the way I felt, and KC called me stupid for it! :blink: Bastard!

[thejives]

Exactly the way I felt, and KC called me stupid for it! :blink: Bastard!

If KC says we're stupid, then we're stupid.

live with it.

[epo]

Exactly the way I felt, and KC called me stupid for it! :blink: Bastard!

Spoon...you aren't stupid, but then again hockey season starts soon!

[spoon]

Think again, I play year round!

:wallbash: