Republic Party illegally suppressing vote!

[epo]

In the long, rich history of the Republic Party, we are now seeing the nominee for Prezinit of the United States' campaign attempt to repress the vote in "certain" zip codes and with "certain" constituents in the state of Wisconsin.

From the Wisconsin State Journal: (http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/304740)

The state elections agency is investigating complaints about a massive campaign mailing Republican Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has directed toward Wisconsin Democrats and other voters.

Each mailing includes at least one copy of the state application for an absentee ballot that has the address of a local clerk and a box for postage printed on the other side.

But in some cases, the incorrect clerk's address is printed on the application, leading some Democrats to wonder if the Arizona senator's campaign is deliberately trying to get them to apply for absentee ballots in places where they aren't eligible to vote.

"They're trying to knock me off the rolls," said Democrat Beverly Jambois, of Middleton. "I can't tell you how upsetting it is to me. This is how you win elections? By disenfranchising other voters?"

A special interest group has asked the state Attorney General to investigate this attempt at disenfranchising democratic voters in the state of Wisconsin. Link to release here (http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/press/162/new-election-task-force-must-investigate-specifics-of-false-absentee-ballot-mailing).

This accusation has been made in several states including Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oregon and Wisconsin. Here is an example of the outside of the mailer:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii49/j2christ/mccain0001.jpg

So I ask you, is this "country first" Republic Senator John McCain?http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mccain0001.jpg

[CofyCrakCocaine]

What? I don't read.

[HBox]

What? I don't read.

Shorter: John McCain wants to take your vote and rape it 8 ways from Sunday MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

[JerseySean]

In the long, rich history of the Republic Party, we are now seeing the nominee for Prezinit of the United States' campaign attempt to repress the vote in "certain" zip codes and with "certain" constituents in the state of Wisconsin.

From the Wisconsin State Journal: (http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/304740)



A special interest group has asked the state Attorney General to investigate this attempt at disenfranchising democratic voters in the state of Wisconsin. Link to release here (http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/press/162/new-election-task-force-must-investigate-specifics-of-false-absentee-ballot-mailing).

This accusation has been made in several states including Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oregon and Wisconsin. Here is an example of the outside of the mailer:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii49/j2christ/mccain0001.jpg

So I ask you, is this "country first" Republic Senator John McCain?http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mccain0001.jpg

Actually this is funny to me. You know what this is? A fucked up and fired direct mail consultant. This happened in a statewide NJ race that I worked on. We lost 1.6 million dollars worth of mail and people got fired. thats all this is.

[Bob Impact]

Actually this is funny to me. You know what this is? A fucked up and fired direct mail consultant. This happened in a statewide NJ race that I worked on. We lost 1.6 million dollars worth of mail and people got fired. thats all this is.

This.

I do find it fun that the democratic and republican vote suppresion threads started within an hour of each other.

[scottinnj]

Sooo......


What Wednesday in November do we vote?

[Dude!]

wisconsin democrats ought to talk
isnt that the state where democrat pols
were convicted of slashing tires on republican get out the vote vans

something like that

the state is full of cheese eating loser keilbasas that shouldnt get to vote anyway

[donnie_darko]

get your voootess outtttttt

[CousinDave]

Due to an increase in voter registration, election day 2008, will take place over two days.

Registered Republicans & Independents are to vote on Nov 4

Registered Democrats are to vote on Nov 5

[Jujubees2]

Due to an increase in voter registration, election day 2008, will take place over two days.

Registered Republicans & Independents are to vote on Nov 4

Registered Democrats are to vote on Nov 5

Wow, that's great because I was busy on the 4th ad now I'll be able to vote on the 5th.

Thanks for the info.

[Knowledged_one]

In the long, rich history of the Republic Party, we are now seeing the nominee for Prezinit of the United States' campaign attempt to repress the vote in "certain" zip codes and with "certain" constituents in the state of Wisconsin.

From the Wisconsin State Journal: (http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/304740)



A special interest group has asked the state Attorney General to investigate this attempt at disenfranchising democratic voters in the state of Wisconsin. Link to release here (http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/press/162/new-election-task-force-must-investigate-specifics-of-false-absentee-ballot-mailing).

This accusation has been made in several states including Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oregon and Wisconsin. Here is an example of the outside of the mailer:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii49/j2christ/mccain0001.jpg

So I ask you, is this "country first" Republic Senator John McCain?http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mccain0001.jpg

Feel better about yourself now?

[Freakshow]

why would he need to discourage them to vote. The evil owners of the voting machines have them set to count their Obama votes as Pat Buchanan votes anyway. So he should be encouraging dems to vote!

[epo]

Feel better about yourself now?


I do find it fun that the democratic and republican vote suppresion threads started within an hour of each other.

Umm...Bob Impact nailed my point.

The Republicans can run around and bitch/moan about left-leaning special interest groups "cheating" by registering people, while the Republican nominee for President of the United States is running a campaign that is attempting to suppress the vote on November 4th.

Ironic?

Yes.

[epo]

I received the following chain email today:

Subject: FW: Voting Straight Democrat

Just Passing this on...

For those who normally vote 'Straight Democratic', please pay close attention!!!!!

I was informed this weekend by a group of Obama volunteers that when voting for the presidential candidate this

November, you have to make sure you punch Barack's name first, then proceed to punch 'Straight Democratic' or else the vote for the president won't count. I'm not sure if any of you are aware of this, but we know they won't tell us this at the poles. Please make sure you inform others.

The email is being directed at poor inner-city people. Must we fight in this manner?

[Tallman388]

Is this election going to turn into another fiasco where we don't find out what happened until December?

[IMSlacker]

There are still places that use punch cards?

[deliciousV]

Shorter: John McCain wants to take your vote and rape it 8 ways from Sunday MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!


And he'd have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you pesky kids

[JerseySean]

Umm...Bob Impact nailed my point.

The Republicans can run around and bitch/moan about left-leaning special interest groups "cheating" by registering people, while the Republican nominee for President of the United States is running a campaign that is attempting to suppress the vote on November 4th.

Ironic?

Yes.

Evidence please? thats quite a charge.

[epo]

Evidence please? thats quite a charge.

Post #1 in this thread. Here is the link if you want to read it again (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1900008&postcount=1).

[albo60s]

In the long, rich history of the Republic Party, we are now seeing the nominee for Prezinit of the United States' campaign attempt to repress the vote in "certain" zip codes and with "certain" constituents in the state of Wisconsin.

From the Wisconsin State Journal: (http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/304740)



A special interest group has asked the state Attorney General to investigate this attempt at disenfranchising democratic voters in the state of Wisconsin. Link to release here (http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/press/162/new-election-task-force-must-investigate-specifics-of-false-absentee-ballot-mailing).

This accusation has been made in several states including Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oregon and Wisconsin. Here is an example of the outside of the mailer:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii49/j2christ/mccain0001.jpg

So I ask you, is this "country first" Republic Senator John McCain?http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mccain0001.jpg


Those constituents can just use the other 15 names they have registered under to cast their votes!!!!
McCain campaign is either very clever or has some careless folks entering the wrong addresses in error.
Perhaps they hired alumni of the Milwaukee school system for the task???????

[albo60s]

wisconsin democrats ought to talk
isnt that the state where democrat pols
were convicted of slashing tires on republican get out the vote vans

something like that

the state is full of cheese eating loser keilbasas that shouldnt get to vote anyway

Yes & one of the convicted was the son of local Democratic congressperson Gwen Moore!!!!!!!

[epo]

Those constituents can just use the other 15 names they have registered under to cast their votes!!!!
McCain campaign is either very clever or has some careless folks entering the wrong addresses in error.
Perhaps they hired alumni of the Milwaukee school system for the task???????

Attempting to suppress the vote of targeted zip codes is NOT CLEVER, it's un-American.

[albo60s]

Those who pleaded no contest were Sowande A. Omokunde, the son of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Milwaukee; Michael Pratt, the son of former acting Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt; and Lewis Caldwell and Lavelle Mohammad, both from Milwaukee.

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/04/26/jail-time-for-tire-slashers/

:laugh:

[epo]

Those who pleaded no contest were Sowande A. Omokunde, the son of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Milwaukee; Michael Pratt, the son of former acting Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt; and Lewis Caldwell and Lavelle Mohammad, both from Milwaukee.

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/04/26/jail-time-for-tire-slashers/

:laugh:

I'll provide the context on that since you won't. In 2004 some over-zealous and very stupid volunteers slash tires for a Republican van service to get to the polls. It was an asshole move on their part and they received the proper punishment.

And please, don't quote Michelle Malkin again, she's a damned lunatic.

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/malkin.jpg

[epo]

Perhaps they hired alumni of the Milwaukee school system for the task???????

Don't tell me you are one of those people in Wisconsin who don't live in Milwaukee or Madison and claim they are "the problem"?

[SP1!]

Actually this is funny to me. You know what this is? A fucked up and fired direct mail consultant. This happened in a statewide NJ race that I worked on. We lost 1.6 million dollars worth of mail and people got fired. thats all this is.

But according to die hard obama and democrat supporters this is all an evil conspiracy by those publicans to keep minorities from voting.

I went to my normal voting place in 2000 only to be told I was at the wrong place and had to re-apply and had to fill out a provisional ballot, did I scream? No I just filled out the other ballot then found out where I should be registered.

Its amazing that the democrats want this front page but ignore the thousands of dead people that vote democrat year after year and lets face it, without the help of the mafia in chicago there would have been no JFK win.

[SP1!]

I'll provide the context on that since you won't. In 2004 some over-zealous and very stupid volunteers slash tires for a Republican van service to get to the polls. It was an asshole move on their part and they received the proper punishment.

And please, don't quote Michelle Malkin again, she's a damned lunatic.


So if dems do it, it is just an isolated event by over zealous volunteers?

Republicans do it then its an obvious attempt to control the nation, got it.

Jesus christ you are stupid.

And michelle malkin, while being very vocal is hot.

[epo]

So if dems do it, it is just an isolated event by over zealous volunteers?

Republicans do it then its an obvious attempt to control the nation, got it.

Jesus christ you are stupid.

And michelle malkin, while being very vocal is hot.

See there is a key difference in these two cases:

1. The tire slashing incidents was individuals.
2. The mailing incident was from a National Campaign.

See the difference? "Jesus Christ you are stupid."

Fuck you.

[furie]

I'll provide the context on that since you won't. In 2004 some over-zealous and very stupid volunteers slash tires for a Republican van service to get to the polls. It was an asshole move on their part and they received the proper punishment.

And please, don't quote Michelle Malkin again, she's a damned lunatic.

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/malkin.jpg

do you think the tire slashers were taking orders from Kerry or affiliated with the democratic party?

[epo]

do you think the tire slashers were taking orders from Kerry or affiliated with the democratic party?

There has never been any proof of it.

[mikeyboy]

Jesus christ you are stupid.



Fuck you.

Knock it off.

[furie]

There has never been any proof of it.

then why would you think that is the case here, in WI?

[epo]

then why would you think that is the case here, in WI?

I never said it was the case. Albos suggested it.

[furie]

I never said it was the case. Albos suggested it.

DUde, you make the absolute statement on the thread title of:
Republic Party illegally suppressing vote!

not suggesting, or alleging.
then you say that mccains campaign was attempting to suppress the vote. you directly linked the republicans and mccain to this incident .
so yes, you did say that.

[epo]

DUde, you make the absolute statement on the thread title of:

not suggesting, or alleging.
then you say that mccains campaign was attempting to suppress the vote. you directly linked the republicans and mccain to this incident .
so yes, you did say that.

This very thread was a tongue-in-cheek answer to this thread: "More Democrat Voter Fraud (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73553)".

[Doctor Z]

...The fuck is the Republic Party?

and when is it?

[epo]

...The fuck is the Republic Party?

and when is it?

Its not the "Republic Party"...that is a reference to Jersey Sean's use of "Democrat Party" as a means to slander the Democratic Party thru language.

Or would RepubliCON Party be better?

[Doctor Z]

All I wanna know is: Is there a cover? And will they have a keg?

[Bob Impact]

All I wanna know is: Is there a cover? And will they have a keg?

No cover but you need to beat Ann Coulter in an arm wrestling match before they let you in.

[torker]

No cover but you need to beat Ann Coulter in an arm wrestling match before they let you in.
That'll be like rematch between Seth Brundle and Marky.

[angrymissy]

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache

At least three early voters in Jackson County had a hard time voting for candidates they want to win.

Virginia Matheney and Calvin Thomas said touch-screen machines in the county clerk's office in Ripley kept switching their votes from Democratic to Republican candidates.

"When I touched the screen for Barack Obama, the check mark moved from his box to the box indicating a vote for John McCain," said Matheney, who lives in Kenna.

[mikeyboy]

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache

Life imitates art? (http://io9.com/5058447/homer-votes-for-obamapisses-off-president-mccains-death-bots)

[furie]

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache
At least three early voters in Jackson County had a hard time voting for candidates they want to win.

Virginia Matheney and Calvin Thomas said touch-screen machines in the county clerk's office in Ripley kept switching their votes from Democratic to Republican candidates.

"When I touched the screen for Barack Obama, the check mark moved from his box to the box indicating a vote for John McCain," said Matheney, who lives in Kenna.


http://www.wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4338967

[mongothetrucker]

I already voted absentee in Wisconsin. In a town of 1200, I just went to the Village office.

[mikeyboy]

http://www.wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4338967

ahem

Life imitates art? (http://io9.com/5058447/homer-votes-for-obamapisses-off-president-mccains-death-bots)

[SP1!]

1. The tire slashing incidents was individuals.
2. The mailing incident was from a National Campaign.
They were volunteers for the national campaign acting out what they felt people inside their campaign would have wanted so no I see no difference. There was a big stink about this locally when it come out but it never went national, for whatever reason I dont know but these workers were said to have been given suggestions. Its all hearsay and a dodge for the fact that they are dirtier in their tactics. Besides this mistake was obvious to anyone that votes locally and was quickly spotted but they have to blow it up like they are somehow taking over the process. Simpleton thinking makes people believe this happens, those same people believe the government did 9/11 but if people say that they are laughed out of the room.

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache
The touch screens are sensitive but to even suggest that they are purposefully rigging the election is ludicrous, although Im sure thats what people will say if mccain wins. I also predict hippies rioting if mccain wins.

[brettmojo]

The touch screens are sensitive but to even suggest that they are purposefully rigging the election is ludicrous, although Im sure thats what people will say if mccain wins. I also predict hippies rioting if mccain wins.

http://www.wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4338967
I see evidence to the contrary.

And I really can't condone McCain's campaign endorsing murder as a tactic to silence Obama supporters... That's a little over the line.

[SP1!]

I see evidence to the contrary.

And I really can't condone McCain's campaign endorsing murder as a tactic to silence Obama supporters... That's a little over the line.

Funny unless you have been in the booth when this happened to someone, you cant see the actual evidence of it at all.

And the second part makes no sense at all

[brettmojo]

Funny unless you have been in the booth when this happened to someone, you cant see the actual evidence of it at all.

And the second part makes no sense at all
The second part was Palin's idea.

[albo60s]

Don't tell me you are one of those people in Wisconsin who don't live in Milwaukee or Madison and claim they are "the problem"?


I live in Waukesha County.
MPS graduation rate is 45%.
Pretty sad.

http://www.dailycardinal.com/article/20559

[epo]

Hold the phones....the Republicans are cheating in voter registrations now! Linky. (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story)

The owner of a firm that the California Republican Party hired to register tens of thousands of voters this year was arrested in Ontario late last night on suspicion of voter registration fraud.

State and local investigators allege that Mark Jacoby fraudulently registered himself to vote at a childhood California address where he no longer lives so he would appear to meet the legal requirement that signature gatherers be eligible to vote in California.

Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department comes after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by his firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM. The voters said YPM tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters. The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP.

What, who would dupe voters into registering for something they didn't want? (http://mobile.latimes.com/detail.jsp?key=186051&rc=local&full=1)

Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.

Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.
......................
It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party -- a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states -- has been accused of using the tactic across the country.


Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit. Prosecutors in Los Angeles and Ventura counties say they are investigating complaints about the company.

The firm, which a Republican Party spokesman said is paid $7 to $12 for each registration it secures, has denied any wrongdoing and says it has never been charged with a crime.

This must be a new tactic...right? WRONG they did it in 2004 too silly!

Students complain of false party swap: Scores of college students say they were tricked into changing their registration to the Republican Party when signing petitions. (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/23/Hillsborough/Students_complain_of_.shtml)

The prime suspect is a group hired by the National Republican Committee to register voters.

About 4,000 students may have been improperly registered at the University of Florida, Florida A&M University and Florida State, officials say.

Her boyfriend repeatedly asked the group whom they worked for. One person told him the Young Republicans. Another said they worked for a company called YPM.

Young Political Majors LLC, or YPM, is a company registered by Mark Jacoby at a Town 'N Country residence.

Save your sanctimonious bullshit about Republicans giving one single shit about fair elections.

[epo]

MPS graduation rate is 45%.
Pretty sad.

http://www.dailycardinal.com/article/20559

The methodology of that study is highly questioned. Link to an article here. (http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/474590/milwaukee_near_bottom_for_graduation_rates_but_met hods_questioned_in/index.html)

Of course I'm not surprised that the Vice Chair of the Young Republicans at UW-Madison used it in her opinion piece in the student newspaper.

[furie]

ahem

the link didn't work before, which is why i posted a different one.

[jauble]

Today I was given propoganda for obama and jill long thompson just outside of a voting center(she is looking for the guberatorial seat). Im not voting for the president and I dont care. However they did send out the largest Sheriffs Deputy in indy to tell them to leave...that was fun.


Ron Paul 08