RIP Baby Satchmo / Dylan

[Judge Smails]

http://www.webweaver.nu/clipart/img/misc/angels/child-angel.gif


Believe me - you're in a much better place than with Earl Douglas.

[JerseyRich]

It was a boy.

[Whiskeyportal]

You think the coat hanger in his head went to heaven with him?

[~Katja~]

tasteless photoshops anyone???

[DOHO@HOME]

First birfday pees hode:laugh:

[midwestjeff]

Dylan must've been good because I've heard the only good one is a dead one.

[Whiskeyportal]

:laugh::laugh::lol:

[DOHO@HOME]

Good one:clap:

[GreatAmericanZero]

Earl never stops amazing me with his weirdness

[nate1000]

Is there a sign outside this thread that says Dead Nigger Baby Storage?

[drjoek]

Wow I was going to take a few days off from posting but this thread begged for attention. I enjoy a joke as much as the next and noone has accused me of being highbrow. In fact I've been told my posts are atrocious and boring. BUT I thought ronfez.net had a little class. This thread sinks to a new low.There is satire and then there is poor taste. Earls an easy target but This goes over the line in my opinion.
Is there anyone moderating here?

Isn't this what wackbag is for?

[midwestjeff]

Is there a sign outside this thread that says Dead Nigger Baby Storage?

No, but there was one above Earl's ex-girlfriend's womb.




*Begin the countdown for this to turn into an "arguing racism" thread.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Wow I was going to take a few days off from posting but this thread begged for attention. I enjoy a joke as much as the next and noone has accused me of being highbrow. In fact I've been told my posts are atrocious and boring. BUT I thought ronfez.net had a little class. This thread sinks to a new low.There is satire and then there is poor taste. Earls an easy target but This goes over the line in my opinion.
Is there anyone moderating here?

Isn't this what wackbag is for?

i think youjust don't understand the joke

you see, Earl impregnated a woman, and instead of her giving birth to the baby, the baby ended up dying and never being born

hope i cleared things up

[Lady Resin]

This thread is making me sick to my stomach. :down:

[drjoek]

i think youjust don't understand the joke

you see, Earl impregnated a woman, and instead of her giving birth to the baby, the baby ended up dying and never being born

hope i cleared things up

I understand the joke, I listened to the show.
Even with your explanation I stand by my opinion.

[midwestjeff]

This thread is making me sick to my stomach. :down:

Wait.

Earl didn't get you pregnant did he?
Because this could be bad, again.

[BlackSpider]

Is it possible to hang yourself using your own umbilical cord?
I'm just asking, 'cause I have a theory...

[MisterSmith]

i think youjust don't understand the joke

you see, Earl impregnated a woman, and instead of her giving birth to the baby, the baby ended up dying and never being born

hope i cleared things up

Is there a sign outside this thread that says Dead N***** Baby Storage?

GAZ - how is that [the quote above] even funny? It's one thing to make fun of Earl's idiocy, but outright racism is despicable. And I didn't even multi-quote the "only good one..." comment since it could have conceivably been about all babies to some people.

[GreatAmericanZero]

GAZ - how is that [the quote above] even funny?

um..cuz i was being sarcastic. i dunno..irony and stuff

[BlackSpider]

um..cuz i was being sarcastic. i dunno..irony and stuff

Don't worry Gaz,
some of us got it...

[GreatAmericanZero]

Don't worry Gaz,
some of us got it...

i just hate when i have to spell out my jokes.

the worst one was a few days ago when i referenced Sleeve's "Big A" song and said about Big A "..has a mean vocablray" cuz thats how sleeves says that word and then there was posts like "Dude way to misspell vocabulary you asshole!"

[MisterSmith]

um..cuz i was being sarcastic. i dunno..irony and stuff

Not yours, the "Dead N" quote. Pulp Fiction be damned, it's a blatantly racist comment.

I don't think the subject matter is necessarily off limits, but a little bit of class and/or tact should be used.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Not yours, the "Dead N" quote. Pulp Fiction be damned, it's a blatantly racist comment.

I don't think the subject matter is necessarily off limits, but a little bit of class and/or tact should be used.

well i didn't say that line was funny


i wouldn't call the guy racist for trying to put together a Pulp Fiction reference but i don't think the reference worked 100%. I didn't laugh from it but i don't find it offensive either

[MisterSmith]

well i didn't say that line was funny


i wouldn't call the guy racist for trying to put together a Pulp Fiction reference but i don't think the reference worked 100%. I didn't laugh from it but i don't find it offensive either

I didn't say he was a racist, but it was a racist comment. It was obviously tasteless, although I can recognize the place he was trying to come from. I would even have been "ok" with it if he had used something other than the full word.

If mods aren't going to/aren't able to keep track 100% we should be able to police ourselves as a community. When something goes over the line, it can and should be mentioned.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I didn't say he was a racist, but it was a racist comment. It was obviously tasteless, although I can recognize the place he was trying to come from. I would even have been "ok" with it if he had used something other than the full word.

If mods aren't going to/aren't able to keep track 100% we should be able to police ourselves as a community. When something goes over the line, it can and should be mentioned.

but why was i called into it to explain why its funny? i have nothing to do with whatever that dude commented and i have no feelings about it posted...i'm one of those "people can post whatever they want"

[MisterSmith]

but why was i called into it to explain why its funny? i have nothing to do with whatever that dude commented and i have no feelings about it posted...i'm one of those "people can post whatever they want"

Because of your comment to doc. You were wondering why he would be offended so I showed you an example. I am sorry if you misunderstood the way I multi-quoted (which, I will admit, was a bit awkward), but it clearly illustrated how and why doc might feel a comment or two were over the line.

[Whiskeyportal]

*Begin the countdown for this to turn into an "arguing racism" thread.

well that didn't take long at all

[MisterSmith]

well that didn't take long at all

And we have a winner! :clap:

[Lady Resin]

Wait.

Earl didn't get you pregnant did he?
Because this could be bad, again.


Um, no. I'm not going to delve into my personal life on this subject.

[midwestjeff]

Because of your comment to doc. You were wondering why he would be offended so I showed you an example. I am sorry if you misunderstood the way I multi-quoted (which, I will admit, was a bit awkward), but it clearly illustrated how and why doc might feel a comment or two were over the line.

What is this line?

You were bothered by someone typing out an "igger" more than your "N". You had to have thought the dreaded word when you typed the single letter. Some people aren't hung up on other people throwing around words. Why should your sensibilities be imposed on everyone else?

[KnoxHarrington]

What is this line?

You were bothered by someone typing out an "igger" more than your "N". You had to have thought the dreaded word when you typed the single letter. Some people aren't hung up on other people throwing around words. Why should your sensibilities be imposed on everyone else?

The funny part is that if you'd called that joke into the show, you probably would have been dumped.

[sailor]

Wow I was going to take a few days off from posting but this thread begged for attention. I enjoy a joke as much as the next and noone has accused me of being highbrow. In fact I've been told my posts are atrocious and boring. BUT I thought ronfez.net had a little class. This thread sinks to a new low.There is satire and then there is poor taste. Earls an easy target but This goes over the line in my opinion.
Is there anyone moderating here?

Isn't this what wackbag is for?

could not agree more. this is just garbage.

[KnoxHarrington]

could not agree more. this is just garbage.

Is it just me, or is this happening more lately, both here and on the show? Just pointless meanness, often with a vicious racist undertone, such as the beatdown New Lilly got a couple of weeks ago. I mean, this is not funny. If Earl's story is true, you're making racist jokes about a dead baby. Yeah, that's fucking entertainment.

[midwestjeff]

The funny part is that if you'd called that joke into the show, you probably would have been dumped.

The pulp fiction line?

And if so, does this mean that the show dictates what we post here?
If it isn't good enough to go on air, then don't bother posting?

[mikeyboy]

Ugh. This thread sucks. I missed the bit, so I don't know if it's about context. Miscarried babies humor and outward racism (as opposed to racial humor) aren't really my cup of tea. Everyone's line is different, so I'm not going to impose my own tastes. Just not my thing.

And yes, the self- policing around these parts is a good thing.

[Brad_Rush]

Is it just me, or is this happening more lately, both here and on the show? Just pointless meanness, often with a vicious racist undertone, such as the beatdown New Lilly got a couple of weeks ago. I mean, this is not funny. If Earl's story is true, you're making racist jokes about a dead baby. Yeah, that's fucking entertainment.

...and when someone from Kentucky thinks your racist joke went too far, you've gone WAY over the line :wink:

[GreatAmericanZero]

...and when someone from Kentucky thinks your racist joke went too far, you've gone WAY over the line :wink:

i'm in kentucky too!

but threads where people are being mean or racist or sick isn't surprising. "Ron & Fez" is a comedy show that sometimes goes into dark areas. The fans hear it on the radio and think they can achieve comedic success the way their radio heroes do. Of course, the R&F show (as well as O&A) consist of radio professionals and humorists who are more skilled to do comedy in that manner than "Long Island Joe Plumber" on a fansite.

But because I understand it, I don't get offended when people try. I don't really judge them for it...because i know they aren't professional funnymen. I just see it as it is. It's no big deal

[BlackSpider]

Just curious why nobody is complaining about any of the jokes that Ron made on the subject.

like: "here's what happened, you gave a normal person weak sperm..."
and: "you said to me, 'weak sauce, I pounded her with weak sauce'..."
or this one: "there's nothing different between a miscarriage and an abortion,
so you my friend are technically an abortionist..."
or this: "you've had the funniest story so far..."
or this: "what's the funniest part of the story, you kicked the fetus ?"

also, Earl was laughing most of the time.

I guess my point is, why should people that post on a message-board be held
to a higher level than hosts of the show that they are commenting on.

[~Katja~]

it's the flow of today's show that makes me not take this subject very serious. I mean Earl reveals something so deep after people confess about jerking off at funerals or in siblings rooms... how could anyone believe he was telling a serious story?

They had many confessionals before, what would make Earl come out with this today?

[GreatAmericanZero]

Just curious why nobody is complaining about any of the jokes that Ron made on the subject.

like: "here's what happened, you gave a normal person weak sperm..."
and: "you said to me, 'weak sauce, I pounded her with weak sauce'..."
or this one: "there's nothing different between a miscarriage and an abortion,
so you my friend are technically an abortionist..."
or this: "you've had the funniest story so far..."
or this: "what's the funniest part of the story, you kicked the fetus ?"

also, Earl was laughing most of the time.

I guess my point is, why should people that post on a message-board be held
to a higher level than hosts of the show that they are commenting on.

well that goes from what i said earlier..Ron is a professional humorist and radio personality. He knows how to handle that situation

Its the same thing when...say someone on a messageboard's wife died. Then a poster writes something inappropriate. People call him an asshole, his response will always be "Hey..Jim Norton does jokes like that all the time! You can laugh at Lacey Peterson but not at this guy's own wife dying? HYPOCRITE!"

But its not..theres a reason why Ron is on the radio and messageboard posters are posting on the internet...you can't compare their comedic sensibilities

Also, remember when a messageboard poster threw a napkin dispenser at Eastside Dave's head and was defended on the "Messageboard round table" as "he was just imitating what Ron does when he throws a cowbell at Dave". Its not a defense...just because the radio personality does it on the radioshow that you are a fan of does not give you the right to act exactly like the radio personality.

[Whiskeyportal]

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/12576/200.jpg

*thread fixed

[midwestjeff]

well that goes from what i said earlier..Ron is a professional humorist and radio personality. He knows how to handle that situation

But its not..theres a reason why Ron is on the radio and messageboard posters are posting on the internet...you can't compare their comedic sensibilities


So, by your reasoning, the only one allowed to make a joke about something questionable has to have a microphone in front of them for it to be funny? And two radio shows, at that?

All hail the mighty radio guy, the only man that can make a joke.

Serious posts only from now on people, please and thank you.

[BlackSpider]

well that goes from what i said earlier..Ron is a professional humorist and radio personality. He knows how to handle that situation

Its the same thing when...say someone on a messageboard's wife died. Then a poster writes something inappropriate. People call him an asshole, his response will always be "Hey..Jim Norton does jokes like that all the time! You can laugh at Lacey Peterson but not at this guy's own wife dying? HYPOCRITE!"

But its not..theres a reason why Ron is on the radio and messageboard posters are posting on the internet...you can't compare their comedic sensibilities

Also, remember when a messageboard poster threw a napkin dispenser at Eastside Dave's head and was defended on the "Messageboard round table" as "he was just imitating what Ron does when he throws a cowbell at Dave". Its not a defense...just because the radio personality does it on the radioshow that you are a fan of does not give you the right to act exactly like the radio personality.

I know what you're saying, but: ( I will address these point by point)
1.Ron's jokes were just as tasteless, and made directly to the person.
so who ever is "offended" by the posts here, should be equally offended by
Ron's jokes also.
2.the posts were directed at the same person as Ron's jokes were, Earl.
not a posters wife.
3.I've laughed just as hard at some people's posts, as I have at radio bits.
Just because people aren't getting paid to be comedians, doesn't make them any less funny...
4. I have no argument, that person couldn't separate a "bit" from reality.

[GreatAmericanZero]

So, by your reasoning, the only one allowed to make a joke about something questionable has to have a microphone in front of them for it to be funny? And two radio shows, at that?

All hail the mighty radio guy, the only man that can make a joke.

Serious posts only from now on people, please and thank you.

my point was, Ron is the one with thousands of listeners and fan sites dedicated to him. He has real stakes for what he says and skill to know how to say it. "Midwest Jeff" does not. So if "Midwest Jeff" says something..the arguement of "well Ron says it" doesn't work because (i assume) Midwest Jeff does not have the talent or skill to have a nationally heard radio show with fansites dedicated to it

[BlackSpider]

my point was, Ron is the one with thousands of listeners and fan sites dedicated to him. He has real stakes for what he says and skill to know how to say it. "Midwest Jeff" does not. So if "Midwest Jeff" says something..the arguement of "well Ron says it" doesn't work because (i assume) Midwest Jeff does not have the talent or skill to have a nationally heard radio show with fansites dedicated to it

I know I'm not alone in saying that I only post at RF.Net because MidwestJeff posts here.
I've been a fan for a long time. I even gave him a reach-around in the chat-room...

[Ron Diaz]

Ron Bennington's a hack

[BlackSpider]

Ron Bennington's a hack

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Best 1st post ever...

[GreatAmericanZero]

my point is just..for YEARS i've heard the argument of "how come you laugh when this radio personality does a joke but when i do it i'm an asshole" and i'm trying my best to explain why it is and why that argument doesn't hold up

i still believe that people can try as much "outrageious humor" as possible and i don't think its a big deal if they go over a line...but i just don't buy the excuse of "Well you laugh when Ron does it" cuz I laugh when Ron does a lot of things. I laugh when Ron talks about baseball..i don't when my mom does. I laugh when Fez talks about his phobias, I don't when my coworker does

[midwestjeff]

my point was, Ron is the one with thousands of listeners and fan sites dedicated to him. He has real stakes for what he says and skill to know how to say it. "Midwest Jeff" does not. So if "Midwest Jeff" says something..the arguement of "well Ron says it" doesn't work because (i assume) Midwest Jeff does not have the talent or skill to have a nationally heard radio show with fansites dedicated to it

Right. I got your point.

I think people can be funny without being professionals.

[BlackSpider]

Right. I got your point.

I think people can be funny without being professionals.

I agree.

[IamPixie]

They had many confessionals before, what would make Earl come out with this today?

This

Earl never stops amazing me with his weirdness

and that.

[mikeyboy]

For the record, I'm not offended by any of it. My last post was a little unclear. I just don't find some of it all that funny. Granted, there are some topics I don't find much humor in that a deft comedian (not just Ron) can mine for gold. The problem has been re-hashed on here already, but people who aren't professional comedians sometimes push the shock and miss the boat on the humor part. Is it wrong? No. Is it inappropriate? Not for me to judge. Is it entertaining or funny to me? Not terribly. Of course there are some insanely funny people on this board who can hit it out of the park with so-called inappropriate topics. Before this delves any further into "how come he can talk about X but I can't talk about X". It's not about that really, at least I don't think it is. It's more about the self-policing that was referenced earlier. If people on this board think a comment on this board is racist or overly offensive without being humorous, I expect they'll let that person know. This isn't about censoring speech or defining clear boundaries.

Whatever. Need to eat.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I think people can be funny without being professionals.

i agree 100%. I'm just saying that when a lot of people find something "not funny" and perhaps offensive and the excuse is "Ron tackles the same topic too!" isn't an excuse that works for me.

[BlackSpider]

Can't we just disagree to agree???

[Heather 8]

Ron Bennington's a hack

Your sig is too big. :tongue:

[GreatAmericanZero]

Can't we just disagree to agree???

i think we're agreeing to agreeing, no?

[midwestjeff]

i think we're agreeing to agreeing, no?

Worst discourse ever. We should have just skipped straight to the circle jerk.

Can we have some more dead baby Earl jokes now?

Dylan was so lazy he couldn't even crawl out of the womb.

[Whiskeyportal]

:thumbup:

[GreatAmericanZero]

hey..Earl's dead unborn baby...

I bet he loved Watermelon! And Fried Chicken! and Fat white women!


*high five*

[sailor]

This isn't about censoring speech or defining clear boundaries.

Whatever. Need to eat.

Typical

[star queen]

too lazy to make it through the pregnancy

[Enabler]

well that goes from what i said earlier..Ron is a professional humorist and radio personality. He knows how to handle that situation

..theres a reason why Ron is on the radio and messageboard posters are posting on the internet...you can't compare their comedic sensibilities

...just because the radio personality does it on the radioshow that you are a fan of does not give you the right to act exactly like the radio personality.


Ron was right about you GAZ. I fully agree.

I have this theory that comedy is about timing (I believe Im the first person to ever say that). Saying something "off the cuff" in the context of a radio show is 100% difft than typing it on a messageboard. Both can be very funny. But just because a joke works on the air doesnt make it work here. Not that I believe for a second that Earl ever impregnated a real life woman. Or that the show made any jokes as lame as some in this thread.

[midwestjeff]

Dylan was actually supposed to be triplets.

When he found out he couldn't enter the world "plus two",
he ate his siblings (cut in tiny pieces, of course) and killed himself.
:flush:
Eh, maybe GAZ is right, only professionals can pull this off. :surrender:

[sailor]

Dylan was actually supposed to be triplets.

When he found out he couldn't enter the world "plus two",
he ate his siblings (cut in tiny pieces, of course) and killed himself.
:flush:
Eh, maybe GAZ is right, only professionals can pull this off. :surrender:

that looked like a lot of work.

[BlackSpider]

hey..Earl's dead unborn baby...

I bet he loved Watermelon! And Fried Chicken! and Fat white women!


*high five*

good one...

[midwestjeff]

that looked like a lot of work.

It was.
I really should be getting paid for this shit.

[~Katja~]

too lazy to make it through the pregnancy

it was a producer in the making

[BlackSpider]

*hole voice* now guys, be nice...

[midwestjeff]

hey..Earl's dead unborn baby...
I bet he loved Watermelon! And Fried Chicken! and Fat white women!
*high five*

Come on now.
If we've learned anything here it is that outright racism is despicable.
And besides, you forgot grape Kool-Aid.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I agree with Midwest Jeff that you don't need a mic to be funny and I agree with GAZ that most messageboard guys here have no clue how to be funny "in the right way" which is why I am not going to even try with this topic.

Joe Moderate, that's me.

[~Katja~]

*hole voice* now guys, be nice...

"Lilly's back!!!!"

[midwestjeff]

Joe Moderate, that's me.

Way to take a stand.
The only spine weaker than yours belongs to poor little Dylan.

[star queen]

*hole voice* now guys, be nice...

baby sapphire's mama miscarried after sitting on a recently febreezed sofa

[GreatAmericanZero]

I agree with Midwest Jeff that you don't need a mic to be funny and I agree with GAZ that most messageboard guys here have no clue how to be funny "in the right way" which is why I am not going to even try with this topic.

Joe Moderate, that's me.

my point, which came from years of O&A messageboards, is that whenever the grey-line of "appropriateness" comes up and many people say "that isn't funny" and the defender goes "well Norton does it!" isn't an excuse

Norton has over 30 years of extreme focus on his comedic craft. For a messageboard poster to consider himself a comedic equal is offensively underestimation of Norton's talent

i just wrote the same thing in the FBA shelter

[BlackSpider]

I agree with Midwest Jeff that you don't need a mic to be funny and I agree with GAZ that most messageboard guys here have no clue how to be funny "in the right way" which is why I am not going to even try with this topic.

Joe Moderate, that's me.

baby sapphire's mama miscarried after sitting on a recently febreezed sofa

Oh, NOW I get it...

[midwestjeff]

my point, which came from years of O&A messageboards, is that whenever the grey-line of "appropriateness" comes up and many people say "that isn't funny" and the defender goes "well Norton does it!" isn't an excuse

Norton has over 30 years of extreme focus on his comedic craft. For a messageboard poster to consider himself a comedic equal is offensively underestimation of Norton's talent

i just wrote the same thing in the FBA shelter

The thing is that a lot of the same people will show disgust with a Norton or, dare I say, with Ronnie B. Some people are sensitive to shit no matter who it comes from. So because of them another person needs to be silent? Fuck that, I say.
And isn't Lil' Jimmy only like 38 or 39? Has he really been perfecting his craft for 30 years? ---Ok, now I'm just splitting hairs.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

my point, which came from years of O&A messageboards, is that whenever the grey-line of "appropriateness" comes up and many people say "that isn't funny" and the defender goes "well Norton does it!" isn't an excuse

Norton has over 30 years of extreme focus on his comedic craft. For a messageboard poster to consider himself a comedic equal is offensively underestimation of Norton's talent

i just wrote the same thing in the FBA shelter

I think also people are willing to give a comedian more room to work a joke and also more willing to forgive them if it bombs. How many times has Mr.Norden flubbed a line and we've all laughed anyway? Non-comedians generally do not have that freedom of uh... "comedic movement" unless they earned it. Obviously there's the exceptional cases like Mr.Pat from Moonachie who is naturally funny and deserves all the room he can get heh muh heh

[GreatAmericanZero]

"offensiveness" is a weird emotion...i think most things that people find offensive are ridiculous and thats why i tend to laugh more then get offended myself


at my job, i have a private office but i have to use a public bathroom. In front of the urinal someone keeps drawing swatzikas and little portraits of Hitler. A lot of people would find that offensive..but i laugh because i imagine some fucking loser who thinks they are so cool cuz they are drawing faggy pictures of a funny mustached man.

Then, i noticed in the toilet stall that he wrote in marker "KKK All the way". Most people would find that offensive..but the fact that some angst-ridden teen is promoting such an embarrassingly pathetic organization like the KKK in 2008 in an attempt to freak everyone out makes me laugh. I laugh at this sad pathetic individual and his attempt at being something

so i guess its your attitude. When people are truly trying to be offensive, i tend to laugh at them instead of with them and i think thats a better attitude to have

[Sudsy Mug Saloon]

midwestjeff's pic is extremely offensive to me! Rick Rude kissed my mom at a wrestling event back in the day and I've been screwed up since. Thanks for rehashing the bad memories.

Turnoff the message board if you don't like what your reading!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I find marker scrawls in bathrooms funny. The best are the ones where someone says something offensive and some other guy in different colored ink writes "FUCK YOU DIE" and then there's another message from the OP that says "GET AIDS blah blah blah" then something obscure like "Turks suck"

Most recent one that cracked me up was "Islamic footbath" scrawled over a toilet at a gas station off the parkway.

[BlackSpider]

I think if a comedian perfects his craft for years, he has to be funnier than the average joe.
Look at Carrot-top, Jeff Foxworthy, Larry the cable guy, Jeanine Garafalo, Kathy Griffin, Dave Coulier, Dane Cook, Carlos Mencia, Louie Anderson. God, the list goes on and on.
Seniority doesn't always = funny...

[GreatAmericanZero]

the funniest bathroom wall writing i saw was someone who wrote "Black People Smell" and then underneath it, in different penmanship wrote "they are stupid too" and then in different penmanship someone wrote "oh, c'mon!" Like the 3rd person was offended by the other two. I don't know why i found it funny..but i laughed out loud. Maybe the only reason i found it funny is because i'm a piece of shit. I dont know

[biozombie]

I'm wondering why Earl didn't try to choke ESD? I love it when Dave makes Earl lose his composure.

[Friday]

this thread is the very portrait of retardation.

or drunkenness.

i can't decide.

[midwestjeff]

that baby was the very portrait of retardation.

or drunkenness.

i can't decide.

There ya go. Join in the fun.

[BlackSpider]

this thread is the very portrait of retardation.

or drunkenness.

i can't decide.

I'm offended, you should have said:
"This thread is the very portrait of mentaly challenged.

or sobriety challenged.

I can't decide"

[Friday]

There ya go. Join in the fun.

damn you for being so clever!!

:happy:

[BlackSpider]

damn you for being so clever!!

:happy:

Damn, when I saw your post in Ispy, I thought you were talking about me...

[midwestjeff]

Damn, when I saw your post in Ispy, I thought you were talking about me...

I still don't understand Ispy.
I read the thread about it and shit, but I just don't get it.

[BlackSpider]

I still don't understand Ispy.
I read the thread about it and shit, but I just don't get it.

Here's the link http://www.ronfez.net/forums/vaispy.php
you can see all the new posts as they come in, and it refreshes by itself.
when I see a post I want to respond to, I open it in a new tab.
Then I go back to the Ispy tab...

[~Katja~]

ispy rules, but not as much as disneyspy ;)

[BlackSpider]

ispy rules, but not as much as disneyspy ;)

Perry is in, what shit-bar are we drinking at on Friday???

[midwestjeff]

ispy rules, but not as much as disneyspy ;)

Alright. But how does it compare to Earl's dead baby?

Better or worse?

Keep in mind, this baby could have played first base for the Yankees.

[BlackSpider]

Alright. But how does it compare to Earl's dead baby?

Better or worse?

Keep in mind, this baby could have played first base for the Yankees.

You are hurting Gaz's feelings.
Everytime you post, God kills a kitten...

[Hottub]

Just wondering.

Earl's dead Grandma getting a facial from Abe Lincoln and Jimmi Hendrix is funny?
Earl's made-up, dead fetus on a spit is not funny?

I don't get it.

[BlackSpider]

Just wondering.

Earl's dead Grandma getting a facial from Abe Lincoln and Jimmi Hendrix is funny?
Earl's made-up, dead fetus on a spit is not funny?

I don't get it.

Read the thread, if you get paid to make jokes, then they are all funny,
If you post jokes on a message-board, then you are hurting people's feelings...

[torker]

Black Earl's son a bloody clump

[IamFogHat]

Ok, I'm sure this debate belongs somewhere in the forums of culture, but if you're listening to Ron and Fez, or O&A for that matter, then this debate should not exist. I'm not being glib, but if you're upset, stop listening.

[midwestjeff]

Just wondering.

Earl's dead Grandma getting a facial from Abe Lincoln and Jimmi Hendrix is funny?
Earl's made-up, dead fetus on a spit is not funny?

I don't get it.

This thread has an N-Bomb, that changes everything.

Also, next time Spider, don't trouble yourself with the reach around.
Just bang away. You've earned it. :drunk:

[BlackSpider]

Ok, I'm sure this debate belongs somewhere in the forums of culture, but if you're listening to Ron and Fez, or O&A for that matter, then this debate should not exist. I'm not being glib, but if you're upset, stop listening.

That's been my point exactly through this whole debate.
How can you laugh at shows that make fun of people's misfortunes, and then be offended by message-board posts with the same dark humor. The best argument has been that if you get paid, and you've been doing it for a while, it's okay. but if you're an amateur, or unpaid, then it's offensive...

[GreatAmericanZero]

That's been my point exactly through this whole debate.
How can you laugh at shows that make fun of people's misfortunes, and then be offended by message-board posts with the same dark humor. The best argument has been that if you get paid, and you've been doing it for a while, it's okay. but if you're an amateur, or unpaid, then it's offensive...

but with your point its like, a caller could never call the radioshow and not be funny. Any caller to the radioshow is going to hit

we aren't talking about posters that are writing funny stuff that everyone agrees is funny. if a guy was geniunely funny and dark..like Ron, Norton, Anthony blah blah blah..thats one thing

but even you have to admit a lot of callers call up and aren't funny. A lot of messageboard posters aren't funny.

the "Dead nigger baby storage"..it was an attempt to be a Pulp Fiction reference, but it really didn't work...like, yeah..i guess earl's baby would be a "dead nigger baby" but it wasn't well put together as a joke. it was awkward

so we talk about it


even Ron has yelled at callers when they through out the "nigger" word at Earl in a non-clever fashion

these radio shows aren't just about "laughing at peoples misfortune". its HOW we laugh at people's misfortunes. i think its an easy concept to understand. A dead person isn't funny. A funny person making something funny out of a dead person is.

[sailor]

Just wondering.

Earl's dead Grandma getting a facial from Abe Lincoln and Jimmi Hendrix is funny?
Earl's made-up, dead fetus on a spit is not funny?

I don't get it.

old people are expected to die.

[ryno1974]

I might not be a popular opinion, but dead babies aren't funny. Under any circumstances. That is just one more example of how fucked up our world is. I don't want to censor anyone, but free speech should not mean anything goes. People need some boundaries, like it or not. Without it we are just a bunch of mouth breathers.

I HATE the abortion jokes, etc. but I just tune out. I just cant get how you guys all laugh off a dead baby like its a big joke. I guess without losing a child you dot get it.

I am losing faith in this site quickly.......

:down:

[BlackSpider]

but with your point its like, a caller could never call the radioshow and not be funny. Any caller to the radioshow is going to hit

we aren't talking about posters that are writing funny stuff that everyone agrees is funny. if a guy was geniunely funny and dark..like Ron, Norton, Anthony blah blah blah..thats one thing

but even you have to admit a lot of callers call up and aren't funny. A lot of messageboard posters aren't funny.

the "Dead nigger baby storage"..it was an attempt to be a Pulp Fiction reference, but it really didn't work...like, yeah..i guess earl's baby would be a "dead nigger baby" but it wasn't well put together as a joke. it was awkward

so we talk about it


even Ron has yelled at callers when they through out the "nigger" word at Earl in a non-clever fashion

these radio shows aren't just about "laughing at peoples misfortune". its HOW we laugh at people's misfortunes. i think its an easy concept to understand. A dead person isn't funny. A funny person making something funny out of a dead person is.

I think we are misunderstanding each-other.
I'm not saying every caller/poster is funny.
and, I personally thought the dead nigger baby storage joke sucked, and was unfunny.
It seemed to me that your point was: if a seasoned radio personality makes a dark joke, it's funny.
If an amatuer makes a dark joke it's offensive.
We all know that the pros get hate-mail from people about the things they say in jest.
It all comes down to personal preference.
I was not defending what was said, just the person's rite to say it...
As you know from being on the interwebs, the thing about typing things, as apposed to saying them is: you can't use "inflection" to help convey your meaning, so things get misconstrued...

[BlackSpider]

old people are expected to die.

ALL people are expected to die, unless you know something that I don't...

[GreatAmericanZero]

It seemed to me that your point was: if a seasoned radio personality makes a dark joke, it's funny.
.

no...my point was that the seasoned radio personality knows how to make a dark joke funny...which is why its funny. And thats why their joke would work and when someone whose joke doesn't work says "Ron did it" its because Ron is skilled enough to know how to make it funny and the trucker from Florida isn't

[sailor]

ALL people are expected to die, unless you know something that I don't...

either you're an idiot or playing stupid.

[BlackSpider]

no...my point was that the seasoned radio personality knows how to make a dark joke funny...which is why its funny. And thats why their joke would work and when someone whose joke doesn't work says "Ron did it" its because Ron is skilled enough to know how to make it funny and the trucker from Florida isn't

That I completely agree with.
I also agree that the jokes in the thread were not funny.
It seemed to me that your argument was that ONLY a professional could make a dark joke funny, which is what I was disagreeing with.
People weren't complaining about the unfunniness of the jokes.
They were complaining about the "subject matter" of the jokes.
I was merely stating that if you are offended by the "subject matter" of the jokes,
You should be equally offended by "anybody" who jokes about it.
Obviously I was unable to convey my point.



either you're an idiot or playing stupid.

I guess I'm an idiot. I thought all people died, not just old people.

[sailor]

I guess I'm an idiot.

that'd make a nifty mod-quote.

and i can't believe you don't see the difference between someone's elderly grandmother and their baby dying.

[MacVittie]

This might be the sickest, most twisted, morally vapid bit that Ron & Fez have ever done.













That being said, I laughed through the whole thing.

[GreatAmericanZero]

That I completely agree with.
I also agree that the jokes in the thread were not funny.
It seemed to me that your argument was that ONLY a professional could make a dark joke funny, which is what I was disagreeing with.
People weren't complaining about the unfunniness of the jokes.
They were complaining about the "subject matter" of the jokes.
I was merely stating that if you are offended by the "subject matter" of the jokes,
You should be equally offended by "anybody" who jokes about it.
Obviously I was unable to convey my point.





I guess I'm an idiot. I thought all people died, not just old people.

yeah..i think complaining about "Subject matter" is just a harsher way to point out a joke didnt work. Like, an unfunny joke is an unfunny joke. If a joke was funny then people wouldnt complain about subject matter, cuz it was funny in the first place

And radio personalities can make unfunny jokes. I remember a discussion in the O&A section about how Anthony would play the bleep sound to equal "nigger" so gratuitously that it was just sad and annoying instead of funny. But the odds are, a radio professional with a huge fanbase will hit the mark with comedy more than a messageboard poster

[torker]

yeah..i think complaining about "Subject matter" is just a harsher way to point out a joke didnt work. Like, an unfunny joke is an unfunny joke. If a joke was funny then people wouldnt complain about subject matter, cuz it was funny in the first place

And radio personalities can make unfunny jokes. I remember a discussion in the O&A section about how Anthony would play the bleep sound to equal "nigger" so gratuitously that it was just sad and annoying instead of funny. But the odds are, a radio professional with a huge fanbase will hit the mark with comedy more than a messageboard poster
Say 'unfunny' again, motherfucker, say 'unfunny' one more Goddamn time!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I wonder how many folks who have posted in protest about material in this thread laughed their balls off in 2004 during the Lil' Conner phase of the O&A show

just wonderin'

[Zark]

The only thing that I didn't like was Dave's reference to Earl's Grandmother sticking her hand up Satchmos' ass, and making a puppet out of him. If he arrived in heaven at 7 months premature, he'd be a finger puppet.

[led37zep]

Ron Bennington's a hack

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Exactly what this thread needed.

[underdog]

The only thing that I didn't like was Dave's reference to Earl's Grandmother sticking her hand up Satchmos' ass, and making a puppet out of him. If he arrived in heaven at 7 months premature, he'd be a finger puppet.

This could be the best first post ever.

[BlackSpider]

that'd make a nifty mod-quote.

and i can't believe you don't see the difference between someone's elderly grandmother and their baby dying.

yeah, that's exactly what I said.
You're pretty sanctimonious for someone with a cancer joke in their sig...
why am I arguing with someone who uses the word "nifty"?

[Zark]

I might not be a popular opinion, but dead babies aren't funny. Under any circumstances. That is just one more example of how fucked up our world is. I don't want to censor anyone, but free speech should not mean anything goes. People need some boundaries, like it or not. Without it we are just a bunch of mouth breathers.

I HATE the abortion jokes, etc. but I just tune out. I just cant get how you guys all laugh off a dead baby like its a big joke. I guess without losing a child you dot get it.

I am losing faith in this site quickly.......

:down: Shouldn't you be ice fishing?

[GreatAmericanZero]

there is no topic that you can point at and say "it could never be funny". Its impossible...everything is about context and delivery

George Carlin explained this better than i can. He did a bit about it where he said "people say rape can never be funny..Rape can be funny" and then he goes into a bit about Porky Pig being raped...its brilliant


but yeah, i think once you take to the mindset of "this can never be funny" you are missing out

[underdog]

I HATE the abortion jokes, etc. but I just tune out. I just cant get how you guys all laugh off a dead baby like its a big joke. I guess without losing a child you dot get it.

Most people who have been personally effected by a situation do not find that situation funny. There's probably certain things you find funny that other people find offensive because they've been effected by it. It's just life. Certain things hit certain people a different way.

[underdog]

but yeah, i think once you take to the mindset of "this can never be funny" you are missing out

I don't think Hosp could ever be funny.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I don't think Hosp could ever be funny.

I'd disagree but darned if I can't remember what we're talking about

[BlackSpider]

Most people who have been personally effected by a situation do not find that situation funny. There's probably certain things you find funny that other people find offensive because they've been effected by it. It's just life. Certain things hit certain people a different way.

And we have a winner.
Get yourself something from the prize closet.
:clap::clap::clap:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

And we have a winner.
Get yourself something from the prize closet.
:clap::clap::clap:

that was funny? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:

[GreatAmericanZero]

I don't think Hosp could ever be funny.

the "HOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHP" bit is funny, and that bit couldn't have existed if not a real Hosp existed, no?

[BlackSpider]

that was funny? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:


who said it was funny?
and why do I keep getting misquoted in this thread.

[Zark]

This could be the best first post ever.

Thanks Underdog, and congrats on the Sox tying up the ALCS.

[DonInNC]

I might not be a popular opinion, but dead babies aren't funny. Under any circumstances. That is just one more example of how fucked up our world is. I don't want to censor anyone, but free speech should not mean anything goes. People need some boundaries, like it or not. Without it we are just a bunch of mouth breathers.

I HATE the abortion jokes, etc. but I just tune out. I just cant get how you guys all laugh off a dead baby like its a big joke. I guess without losing a child you dot get it.

I am losing faith in this site quickly.......

:down:

The jokes themselves aren't neccesarily funny. It is how far Dave will go to antagonize Earl that is funny.

[Reynolds]

I might not be a popular opinion, but dead babies aren't funny. Under any circumstances. That is just one more example of how fucked up our world is. I don't want to censor anyone, but free speech should not mean anything goes. People need some boundaries, like it or not. Without it we are just a bunch of mouth breathers.

I HATE the abortion jokes, etc. but I just tune out. I just cant get how you guys all laugh off a dead baby like its a big joke. I guess without losing a child you dot get it.

I am losing faith in this site quickly.......

:down:

You made a typo, haha. http://www.spreadtheiris.com/images/smilies/pointlaugh.gif

[sailor]

yeah, that's exactly what I said.
You're pretty sanctimonious for someone with a cancer joke in their sig...
why am I arguing with someone who uses the word "nifty"?

it's not a joke, and that cancer was wished on me.

[Zark]

Bree Olsons' web page is reporting that the porn star has vomited Earl Douglas' second attempt at extending the family lineage. The regurgitated "baby seed", which was of undetermined gender, was named Malomar by the father, who is quite distraught by his continued failure at propagation.

[Meataball23]

Why is everyone overlooking the fact that this story is 100% made up? Earl is a fucking joke. Maybe there was a girl in PA and maybe earl had sex with her once but there is zero chance it happened the way he said.

The dude is a fucking boring zero, who has never made mention of that fact that he has ever been in a serious relationship besides, "the last time i had sex was two years ago." which is complete bullshit b/c hes been saying that since wnew.

also this 'crazy girl' thing is a complete fabrication. no one has met her and all we know is that he called her house too much and her bf or some dude told him he would be a dead n if he kept calling. What am i missing? Earl is a liar and none of this makes any sense, its a fucking rouse.

Its a boy?! Two months if that and he picked out a name?! And no one ever met mystery girl /no one ever heard this story...Im sorry but this is fucking shenanigans. No way this happened.
:wallbash:

[~Katja~]

Why is everyone overlooking the fact that this story is 100% made up? Earl is a fucking joke. Maybe there was a girl in PA and maybe earl had sex with her once but there is zero chance it happened the way he said.

The dude is a fucking boring zero, who has never made mention of that fact that he has ever been in a serious relationship besides, "the last time i had sex was two years ago." which is complete bullshit b/c hes been saying that since wnew.

also this 'crazy girl' thing is a complete fabrication. no one has met her and all we know is that he called her house too much and her bf or some dude told him he would be a dead n if he kept calling. What am i missing? Earl is a liar and none of this makes any sense, its a fucking rouse.

Its a boy?! Two months if that and he picked out a name?! And no one ever met mystery girl /no one ever heard this story...Im sorry but this is fucking shenanigans. No way this happened.
:wallbash:


who knows if there even is a Pennsylvania:unsure:

[Snoogans]

who knows if there even is a Pennsylvania:unsure:

oh there is one, and it fuckin BLOWS. I just got back from being stuck there since Friday night. Believe me, everyone who is there must WISH they were baby Dylan

[BlackSpider]

oh there is one, and it fuckin BLOWS. I just got back from being stuck there since Friday night. Believe me, everyone who is there must WISH they were baby Dylan

No, we're just thankful we don't live in Jersey...

[Snoogans]

No, we're just thankful we don't live in Jersey...

yea it sucks so much being able to do anything you want, having a beach and SHIT TO DO. Not having to drive 30 min to get to a place to eat thats open after 10PM. Fuckin losers, doesn't anyone go out in that state?

[~Katja~]

yea it sucks so much being able to do anything you want, having a beach and SHIT TO DO. Not having to drive 30 min to get to a place to eat thats open after 10PM. Fuckin losers, doesn't anyone go out in that state?

I have about 20 bars and restaurants in town that are open 7 days a week and after 10... just saying.

[BlackSpider]

I have about 20 bars and restaurants in town that are open 7 days a week and after 10... just saying.

He might have been in Lancaster...
The rest of PA. stays open past 10:00

[Snoogans]

not quite that far, though ive been to Manheim a ton and know how much that sucks. Where I was wasnt that far, thats why I was surprised it was so fuckin dead. I was in Bethlehem, which seems close enough to some bigger areas that it should be at least open

[BlackSpider]

I don't think you were looking around enough.
I live in Bethlehem, and there's plenty of places to eat, drink, and party after 10:00.
but whatever...

[Snoogans]

I don't think you were looking around enough.
I live in Bethlehem, and there's plenty of places to eat, drink, and party after 10:00.
but whatever...

there was a bar in the hotel next to ours that was open, but it was a club and had stopped serving food by then. I went out 22 another exit west and found a dunkin donuts that was CLOSED at 11:30 pm. I have never see a DD closed. Burger king next door was open but it seems a little odd to me to have to go like 4 miles to find a place to eat. Driving past cordfields all over and shit. Maybe i wasnt near that part of Bethlehem, I was by Bath i think. We played golf at Southmore golf course, and that was like 6 miles north or where I was. If that helps. I drove around all over the area within a few miles of the hotel and NOTHING was there

[sailor]

there was a bar in the hotel next to ours that was open, but it was a club and had stopped serving food by then. I went out 22 another exit west and found a dunkin donuts that was CLOSED at 11:30 pm. I have never see a DD closed. Burger king next door was open but it seems a little odd to me to have to go like 4 miles to find a place to eat. Driving past cordfields all over and shit. Maybe i wasnt near that part of Bethlehem, I was by Bath i think. We played golf at Southmore golf course, and that was like 6 miles north or where I was. If that helps. I drove around all over the area within a few miles of the hotel and NOTHING was there

fields of cabling or are you speaking of the pants?

[Snoogans]

fields of cabling or are you speaking of the pants?

oh fuck, Cornfields

[~Katja~]

not quite that far, though ive been to Manheim a ton and know how much that sucks. Where I was wasnt that far, thats why I was surprised it was so fuckin dead. I was in Bethlehem, which seems close enough to some bigger areas that it should be at least open

the good areas of Bethlehem are open... oh, and Easton is just 15 minutes away...

see, u just need to know where to look

[Snoogans]

the good areas of Bethlehem are open... oh, and Easton is just 15 minutes away...

see, u just need to know where to look

i was there for a wedding so i didnt have a ton of time for all that

[BlackSpider]

there was a bar in the hotel next to ours that was open, but it was a club and had stopped serving food by then. I went out 22 another exit west and found a dunkin donuts that was CLOSED at 11:30 pm. I have never see a DD closed. Burger king next door was open but it seems a little odd to me to have to go like 4 miles to find a place to eat. Driving past cordfields all over and shit. Maybe i wasnt near that part of Bethlehem, I was by Bath i think. We played golf at Southmore golf course, and that was like 6 miles north or where I was. If that helps. I drove around all over the area within a few miles of the hotel and NOTHING was there

watch out for the cornfeilds, and he who walks behind the rows...

[biozombie]

Miss soundboard Baby Satchmo.

[sailor]

i was there for a wedding so i didnt have a ton of time for all that

i used to visit a friend's family in stroudsburg, yeah the area is death. oh, and do they still have the big star at the top of one of the buildings?

[Meataball23]

Easton is basically nj...not the good parts but leigh or however its spelled is pretty nice.

Also jersey is sexy as hell.
:smoke:

[Hottub]

Stroudsburg was the birthplace of J,J, Newberry's.

Now it's just a good place to cop a 20 sack.

[~Katja~]

i used to visit a friend's family in stroudsburg, yeah the area is death. oh, and do they still have the big star at the top of one of the buildings?

yes they do.

they also filmed parts of a transformer movie in Bethlehem recently.
the entire area actually has done a lot of things to the restaurant and bar scenes over the last 5 years

[Snoogans]

i used to visit a friend's family in stroudsburg, yeah the area is death. oh, and do they still have the big star at the top of one of the buildings?

I dont think stroudsburg is that close to where I was at. Isnt that up off 80? I dont fuckin know. The wedding was in the Chapel at Mulenburg and then the reception was at some country club half hour away

[underdog]

yea it sucks so much being able to do anything you want, having a beach and SHIT TO DO. Not having to drive 30 min to get to a place to eat thats open after 10PM. Fuckin losers, doesn't anyone go out in that state?

You're right, Massachusetts rules.

[spoon]

Right. I got your point.

I think people can be funny without being professionals.

Seriously, Gaz seemingly is fucking obsessed with both radio shows to the extent that almost every post has something, some line tied into it. It's as if he can't talk without an XM tie in or crutch. Gaz is the BDC of XM radio and he prays with the Bennington Bible. Holy fuck dude, I love the shows too but you go WAY over the top. And I'm not just talking about this strange defense of yet another oddly angry/mean thread, but all throughout ronfez.net. Your ass-licking goes to levels not seen around here in years.

[spoon]

For the record, I'm not offended by any of it. My last post was a little unclear. I just don't find some of it all that funny. Granted, there are some topics I don't find much humor in that a deft comedian (not just Ron) can mine for gold. The problem has been re-hashed on here already, but people who aren't professional comedians sometimes push the shock and miss the boat on the humor part. Is it wrong? No. Is it inappropriate? Not for me to judge. Is it entertaining or funny to me? Not terribly. Of course there are some insanely funny people on this board who can hit it out of the park with so-called inappropriate topics. Before this delves any further into "how come he can talk about X but I can't talk about X". It's not about that really, at least I don't think it is. It's more about the self-policing that was referenced earlier. If people on this board think a comment on this board is racist or overly offensive without being humorous, I expect they'll let that person know. This isn't about censoring speech or defining clear boundaries.

Whatever. Need to eat.


Short version, it's called tact.

[led37zep]

Short version, it's called tact.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/images/tact/etoolkit_logo_hv.jpg

[Serpico1103]

I loved the fact that Earl felt he "shut down" for a period of time. Yet, Ron didn't notice any difference in him.
Every week Earl uses his "I am just out of it today" excuse. He always sounds like he is white knuckling the board trying to avoid slipping into unconsciousness.
He claims he was going to get married and have the kid, but he didn't see the women for almost two months.
What can Ron offer Earl for a picture of this mystery woman?
FIRE EARL!

[RMPGP]

Baby Satchmo lives in a cigar box under Earl's bed and is very real.