View Full Version : Is Anthony Racist?
GreatAmericanZero
10-24-2008, 04:17 PM
Im surprised no thread on this since it was such a big talking point. Is Anthony Racist?
I don't think he is. I think hes prejudiced. but if u are capable of having a black friend, u can't be racist..its an extreme term thrown around.
anyway heres the poll
patsopinion
10-24-2008, 04:19 PM
he just knows how to perpetuate a character
Don Stugots
10-24-2008, 04:19 PM
Racist
J.Clints
10-24-2008, 04:20 PM
I know I am LOL.
If you have to throw around the n-word at the mention of any black person you are racist. I don't care if you are doing it as a joke, if that's immediately where your mind goes every time you are a racist.
DarkHippie
10-24-2008, 04:21 PM
I dunno, is he from long Island?
How can he be? Italians are black.
He's just self-hating.
But I don't think he's a rasict.
boobieman
10-24-2008, 04:27 PM
The real question is..is Anthony the luckiest bastard on earth....falls from tin knocker into ass backwards great gig....get to fuck cute young girls, ones that travel across country just be to with his cock...and he gets to cheat on a playboy model....is Anthony a rasict?, who gives a crap.
Everyone has some sort of racism in them..it's human nature...I just want to know does Anthony have a 3rd leg..GGRRRRRRR
SEEEEEYYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Farmer Dave
10-24-2008, 05:03 PM
Just observant.
Is Anthony Cumia a racist? Dunno...don't know the guy.
Is Anthony the radio character a racist? Certainly seems to have the tendencies.
AnnoyedGrunt
10-24-2008, 05:10 PM
I don't think he is. I think hes prejudiced. but if u are capable of having a black friend, u can't be racist..its an extreme term thrown around.
Just because someone has a black friend doesn't mean they can't hate the Jews at the same time.
keverlast
10-24-2008, 05:37 PM
Stereotypical views leads to prejudice then to racism. I think he stops midpoint. He's an educated Hillbilly who watches too much T.V:devil2:
Death Metal Moe
10-24-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't know what it is, but just recently I have become extremely sick and tired of Anthony's racism and his isolationist views on politics.
I hope I'm not turning into "Don't get the bit guy" but everytime he brings up other cultures and races I want to spit on my receiver.
sailor
10-24-2008, 05:41 PM
where's the "who isn't?" option?
biozombie
10-24-2008, 05:44 PM
Im surprised no thread on this since it was such a big talking point. Is Anthony Racist?
I don't think he is. I think hes prejudiced. but if u are capable of having a black friend, u can't be racist..its an extreme term thrown around.
anyway heres the poll
I'm pretty sure Danny ain't black.
Jughead
10-24-2008, 05:46 PM
Is Anthony Cumia a racist? Dunno...don't know the guy.
Is Anthony the radio character a racist? Certainly seems to have the tendencies.
Could not have said it better..but you all know that....:smile:
torker
10-24-2008, 05:59 PM
He's world-savvy.
YourAmishDaddy
10-24-2008, 07:24 PM
I do laugh at the way ol Ant made a big deal of the McCain supporters alleged attacking.
Well she was lying. Now will they mention it next week? Maybe, but I doubt it.
FezsAssistant
10-24-2008, 07:36 PM
I wouldn't say he's racist. Stats don't lie.
Slumbag
10-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Oh, most definitely.
On-Air Anthony. I don't know if that's actually Anthony, but from what I've heard on air, absolutely.
Don't really care though. I tune in to laugh. That's it.
tele7
10-24-2008, 07:45 PM
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badorties
10-24-2008, 07:58 PM
I don't know what it is, but just recently I have become extremely sick and tired of Anthony's racism and his isolationist views on politics.
I hope I'm not turning into "Don't get the bit guy" but everytime he brings up other cultures and races I want to spit on my receiver.
yeah ... i've picked up on that, too
it becomes way too predictable, and you can almost recite the rants
hopefully, it's just a character
PapaBear
10-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Partially a character.
Partially observant.
Totally racist.
The Ogre
10-29-2008, 02:45 AM
If you have to throw around the n-word at the mention of any black person you are racist. I don't care if you are doing it as a joke, if that's immediately where your mind goes every time you are a racist.
This.
Ant is Long Island trash who can't control his urges to be a racist prick at every single opportunity. It's a big part of why I gave up listening.
yojimbo7248
10-29-2008, 03:11 AM
His attitude toward blacks seems to be just part of his hatred for people and pathological fantasies of hurting someone. He seems to have an equal opportunity approach toward wanting to kill people. He seems to have equal hate for drivers who are keeping him from driving as fast as he wants, politically correct liberals, or people he imagines will break into his house. I think his character (don't know about the real guy) is just as insane as Fez...well, maybe not that much but his fortress and arsenal don't come anywhere matching the actual chances of being broken into in Long Island. He reminds me of a type of person I knew when I was in the army who dreams that one day they can legally and justifiably blow someone's head off - white, black, Asian, or especially Arab.
Having said that, I do find his joke about saying 'nigger' but being bleeped boring, stupid, and not funny.
GreatAmericanZero
10-29-2008, 04:14 AM
Having said that, I do find his joke about saying 'nigger' but being bleeped boring, stupid, and not funny.
O&A have a tendency to go into a mindset that a word can be funny just because its a "bad word" and thats it. Im thinking it might be an "Older generation" type thing. But they always have punchlines that end with "You cunt" and then laugh (cuz "cunt" is a bad word)
The very most unfunny thing O&A do is that stupid "Bleep game". They play a news clip, then they have Sam add strategic bleeps to the news clip and, if the audiences uses their imagination right, those bleeps can represent "bad words" and that makes it funny....
I'm so glad they rarely do that bit these days
Warren Peace
10-29-2008, 05:14 AM
O&A have a tendency to go into a mindset that a word can be funny just because its a "bad word" and thats it. Im thinking it might be an "Older generation" type thing. But they always have punchlines that end with "You cunt" and then laugh (cuz "cunt" is a bad word)
The very most unfunny thing O&A do is that stupid "Bleep game". They play a news clip, then they have Sam add strategic bleeps to the news clip and, if the audiences uses their imagination right, those bleeps can represent "bad words" and that makes it funny....
I'm so glad they rarely do that bit these days
Have you forgotten about Jocktober?
MisterSmith
10-29-2008, 05:38 AM
Is Anthony Cumia a racist? Dunno...don't know the guy.
Is Anthony the radio character a racist? Certainly seems to have the tendencies.
Very well put. I think he sounds like a racist on the show, but couldn't begin to tell you what Anthony is like IRL.
ScottFromGA
10-29-2008, 06:14 AM
I only hope he is....
makes him more real in my opinion.
realmenhatelife
10-29-2008, 07:23 AM
I was listening to him talking about Obama this morning and thought "Man, it isn't an act, Anthony really is racist." It's his aggrivation over Obama's tax plan that pushes his voice and attitude into this other area where the conotation is racist.
ScottFromGA
10-29-2008, 07:53 AM
so....does that mean if I say the N word in a jokingly way it doesn't make me racist?
ahhh who am I kidding, its the southern in me that makes me racist.
Death Metal Moe
10-29-2008, 08:20 AM
Ant is Long Island trash who can't control his urges to be a racist prick at every single opportunity. It's a big part of why I gave up listening.
You didn't have to say "trash" you already covered that with "Long Island."
OOOOOH SHIT!
But seriously, I wish he wasn't so fucking annoying because it's hysterical to watch him get more and more frustrated that Obama is up in the polls. I personally don't trust those fucking polls and still fear we may have a MaCain/Palin administration leading us for the next 4 years.
I am just getting tired of the "gag" that he goes back to over and over again. The well is drying up.
CofyCrakCocaine
10-29-2008, 09:21 AM
See, I consider racists to mostly be members of the KKK or the Nazi party or any extremist Islamic group who actively hope to eliminate anyone different from themselves. I do not consider Tony C to be one of those people so I do not personally think he's racist. I think he's got some serious fantasy/experience-based prejudices which leave him grossly biased to the point where, like Moe, I want to spit at my radio on occassion out of frustration at this otherwise intelligent man's ignorance.
Here's where it gets annoying. Whenever he talks politics now, his voice picks up 8 decibles and is basically doing his best impression of my 4th grade teacher, Italian Mr.B (not bennington) while he was disciplining us younguns for not showing him proper respect
It's condescending and pretty fucking rude to any guests they have in studio (Kevin Smith latest example where he insta-shouted soon as 'tax' was brought up) because he's essentially drowning them out and acting like how he makes his father sound. I fucking hate radio shouting matches which is why I hate it when they think screaming at JV&Elvis was poignant.
He's probably internalizing being taxed with the money he's been having to shelf over to his Ex Jessica since 1999 which would explain the bitter rage you hear in his rants lately. Probably the end of that is rushing all them angry feelings to the surface and then he projects it onto politics. I wonder if he's even aware of it? Pretty fucking basic sense to me.
They have been doing way too many bleeps, not enough farts. I thought fart always= funny?
DOHO@HOME
10-29-2008, 09:57 AM
Who isn't ? Ant is a realist and if we could only have more people like him it would be a wonderful world.:thumbup:
deliciousV
10-29-2008, 10:19 AM
I read a book about ten years ago called "Paved with good intentions". It was filled with the kind of facts Ant likes to qoute, crime stats and such. Can a book full of statistical truth be called racist? Is the fact that the focus of the book is clearly on the negative racist? I don't know, it seems that we live in a world where even when the evidence points one way, its wrong to know about it. We're all tilted one way or the other, that shouldn't be our defining trait.
EddieMoscone
10-29-2008, 11:13 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HRGNPNEYL._SL500_BO2,204,203,200_AA219_PIsitb-sticker-dp-arrow,TopRight,-24,-23_SH20_OU01_.jpg
People lie with using statistics every day. I took a class where the main goal was to use statistics to your advantage. You can use one set of statistics and make it look like your business is on an upswing, and use a totally different set of statistics to argue that your business is going to collapse in the near future.
Statistics can tell the truth, but they rarely tell the whole story. Anthony seems to be a man full of fear who has allowed his statistical research to reinforce his way of thinking.
Nothing Sound
10-29-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm a racist and openly admit to it.
Everyone has a bit of racism in them, regardless of what they admit publicly.
TheMojoPin
10-29-2008, 02:01 PM
I read a book about ten years ago called "Paved with good intentions".
By Jared Taylor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor)?
You might want to finally read another book on these matters.
Jared Taylor is basically a less profane, more grown-up Anthony when it coms to "insight" on race and race relations.
GreatAmericanZero
10-29-2008, 02:03 PM
I'm a racist and openly admit to it.
Everyone has a bit of racism in them, regardless of what they admit publicly.
see my philosophy is that you are either racist or not, but everyone has a bit of prejudice in them.
but i guess its just how you define the word. no big deal
Legit Bill
10-29-2008, 02:28 PM
see my philosophy is that you are either racist or not, but everyone has a bit of prejudice in them.
but i guess its just how you define the word. no big deal
"I'm not racist, but I hate everyone equally"
:thumbup:
keverlast
10-29-2008, 03:42 PM
This show use to be funny and lately all i hear is "HATE" every fuckn time. This is one of the most hurtful word a person can say to a fellow human. It's no wonder they are being dropped from stations accross the land. The show has become a platform to promote hatred on every aspect, these guys have some serious mental health issues. The show should be called the O-KK. What kind of idiot idolizes War memorabillia,oops Anthony does, Anyhoo, Nobody said you had to be smart to be jerk jock. RF is the only show for me and O&A can kiss my canadian ass.:innocent:
deliciousV
10-29-2008, 05:35 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HRGNPNEYL._SL500_BO2,204,203,200_AA219_PIsitb-sticker-dp-arrow,TopRight,-24,-23_SH20_OU01_.jpg
People lie with using statistics every day. I took a class where the main goal was to use statistics to your advantage. You can use one set of statistics and make it look like your business is on an upswing, and use a totally different set of statistics to argue that your business is going to collapse in the near future.
Statistics can tell the truth, but they rarely tell the whole story. Anthony seems to be a man full of fear who has allowed his statistical research to reinforce his way of thinking.
Truth is truth, and facts are facts. what you are describing is SPIN.
Fez4PrezN2008
10-29-2008, 05:40 PM
Is Anthony a race-ist? Only when he's driving.
http://www.cardotcom.com/cars/images02/06ford-gt.jpg
torker
10-29-2008, 05:41 PM
Truth is truth, and facts are facts
you were almost peter garrett there for a minute
http://www.oderus.com/maggotmaster/graphics/gallery8.jpg
Nothing Sound
10-29-2008, 05:41 PM
This is one of the most hurtful word a person can say to a fellow human.
I have never in my life been "hurt" by a word.
A word is just that, a word and nothing else.
biozombie
10-29-2008, 05:42 PM
Is Anthony a race-ist? Only when he's driving.
http://www.cardotcom.com/cars/images02/06ford-gt.jpg
wokka wokka!
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/video/stills/muppets3-large.jpg
donnie_darko
10-29-2008, 05:46 PM
i'm not racist, but there are people i do avoid.
Loud groups of blacks in ghetto garb.
Loud groups of whites in redneck garb.
i become very aware of my surroundings when around either of those.
People who willingly fit into a stereotype probably do so for a reason, so if you want to be a stereotype i feel its safe to judge you as part of that stereotype.
TheMojoPin
10-29-2008, 06:05 PM
Truth is truth, and facts are facts.
Stats can easily not be both if used out of context or selectively.
Seriously, the author of the book you were talking about is an awful human being.
EddieMoscone
10-29-2008, 06:08 PM
Truth is truth, and facts are facts. what you are describing is SPIN.
And statistics are neither. Statistics are numbers. Numbers that need to be compared and analyzed in order to even come close to the truth.
ralphbxny
10-29-2008, 07:13 PM
I say no...he's a silly goose stepper!
keverlast
10-29-2008, 07:54 PM
I have never in my life been "hurt" by a word.
A word is just that, a word and nothing else.
Allow someone to put you down constantly over and over again. Then after time, tell me its not hurtful
IamPixie
10-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Allow someone to put you down constantly over and over again. Then after time, tell me its not hurtful
save your breath
deliciousV
10-29-2008, 09:17 PM
Stats can easily not be both if used out of context or selectively.
Seriously, the author of the book you were talking about is an awful human being.
I said I read the book, I didn't say I wrote the forward. I know the author had a bone to pick and I didn't agree with alot of it. I guess my point was that one can "educate" ones self into a distrust based on one side of the story, sometimes when I hear ant pontificate about race I'm reminded of that book.
nassue
10-30-2008, 03:00 AM
no, he's a rich asshole... but sometimes he's funny
The Ogre
10-30-2008, 01:34 PM
You didn't have to say "trash" you already covered that with "Long Island."
OOOOOH SHIT!
But seriously, I wish he wasn't so fucking annoying because it's hysterical to watch him get more and more frustrated that Obama is up in the polls. I personally don't trust those fucking polls and still fear we may have a MaCain/Palin administration leading us for the next 4 years.
I am just getting tired of the "gag" that he goes back to over and over again. The well is drying up.
I think you hit the fucking target dude. I'll resume listening on November 5th if only to hear Grandpa totally lose his shit if Obama wins the race. Nothing better than Anthony desperately clawing about like some dumb trapped animal because he thinks that, o horror of horrors, we'll have a black guy as president.
GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 01:40 PM
I think you hit the fucking target dude. I'll resume listening on November 5th if only to hear Grandpa totally lose his shit if Obama wins the race. Nothing better than Anthony desperately clawing about like some dumb trapped animal because he thinks that, o horror of horrors, we'll have a black guy as president.
do u guys think that part of the problem with this election isn't so much that anthony is "racist" but more that its the EXACT SAME RANT everyday? Like, even people that agree with him have to be a little bored..its always the same break
if they did the same break about any topic everyday i think whatever it is people will get bored
and every rant about Obama is exactly the same. Every single time he'll always go "he just has this...*beat* cult of personality" delivered the exact same way..its like a "best of" everyday
The Ogre
10-30-2008, 02:29 PM
do u guys think that part of the problem with this election isn't so much that anthony is "racist" but more that its the EXACT SAME RANT everyday? Like, even people that agree with him have to be a little bored..its always the same break
if they did the same break about any topic everyday i think whatever it is people will get bored
and every rant about Obama is exactly the same. Every single time he'll always go "he just has this...*beat* cult of personality" delivered the exact same way..its like a "best of" everyday
I think it's a little of both. I realize that if I make the choice to listen to a radio show every day for the full broadcast it's more likely that I'm gonna hear the same old gags and speeches over and over(although it doesn't seem to happen with R&F), but O&A really beat rants and bits into the ground.
So half of it is that like you said, that it's the same goddamn speech every time. The other more important half is that the speech is so hate filled and ignorant.
donnie_darko
10-30-2008, 02:37 PM
he called earl a "oreo"
not only is he racist, but he's fucking retarded.
GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 02:55 PM
I think it's a little of both. I realize that if I make the choice to listen to a radio show every day for the full broadcast it's more likely that I'm gonna hear the same old gags and speeches over and over(although it doesn't seem to happen with R&F), but O&A really beat rants and bits into the ground.
So half of it is that like you said, that it's the same goddamn speech every time. The other more important half is that the speech is so hate filled and ignorant.
well there are things that repeat alot on R&F too. Especially when..for a while...it seemed that way too many shows had fez breaking down and crying over the same exact problems. But R&F can get away with a lot more than O&A because of their attitude
O&A talk about the listeners reaction to bits and complain about that and acknowledge them. That makes them vulnerable because the listeners get attention when they judge them. Ron's attitude towards his show is "hey this is what we are doing" and I think that makes the listeners go with whatever direction the show wants to go in more
Lady Resin
10-30-2008, 03:02 PM
Why does Opie let Ant rant on and on? I would think Opie would be smart enough to do the silent cut across the throat to tell him to shut up. I'm afraid to hear the show on Wednesday.
yojimbo7248
10-30-2008, 03:06 PM
he called earl a "oreo"
not only is he racist, but he's fucking retarded.
Good point. Out of all of the stupid things Americans say about race, accusing a black guy who doesn't fit your narrow little racist stereotypes of being an "oreo" is among the most idiotic and vile. One minute Ant slams on him for wanting reparations and being too loyal to black leaders but then he assuses him of being a fake black "Uncle Tom". Damn, Earl, Ant has such contradictory ideas about race that Crazed could point out the weakness of his arguments and win the debate. How could you let Mr. Cumia make you look like an idiot the other day?
CofyCrakCocaine
10-30-2008, 03:12 PM
well there are things that repeat alot on R&F too. Especially when..for a while...it seemed that way too many shows had fez breaking down and crying over the same exact problems. But R&F can get away with a lot more than O&A because of their attitude
O&A talk about the listeners reaction to bits and complain about that and acknowledge them. That makes them vulnerable because the listeners get attention when they judge them. Ron's attitude towards his show is "hey this is what we are doing" and I think that makes the listeners go with whatever direction the show wants to go in more
Just to compare the differences between the two shows when fan opinions "get" to the radio hosts...
Anyone remember that time the director of 3 Kings called Lilly Tomlin a cunt? Some guy called in and started saying smugly that she deserved it then started yelling "RINGY DINGY" at which point Ron lost his shit called the guy an asshole, told him to fuck himself, and ripped him a new asshole with about 3 additional sentences. Then he hung up on the guy and it was over. Never heard about it again.
O&A on the other hand can devote hours to responding to complaints, talk about how the one bad post ruins the whole board thing, and clearly influences how they do their show and think of their listeners in general.
CofyCrakCocaine
10-30-2008, 03:14 PM
Good point. Out of all of the stupid things Americans say about race, accusing a black guy who doesn't fit your narrow little racist stereotypes of being an "oreo" is among the most idiotic and vile. One minute Ant slams on him for wanting reparations and being too loyal to black leaders but then he assuses him of being a fake black "Uncle Tom". Damn, Earl, Ant has such contradictory ideas about race that Crazed could point out the weakness of his arguments and win the debate. How could you let Mr. Cumia make you look like an idiot the other day?
I wouldn't take what he says to Earl on-air as indicative of his true feelings towards Earl. I get a feeling he doesn't really think those things of the guy and is just doing his job.
His political rants on the other hand... ech. That sounds pretty real to me.
The Ogre
10-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Good point. Out of all of the stupid things Americans say about race, accusing a black guy who doesn't fit your narrow little racist stereotypes of being an "oreo" is among the most idiotic and vile. One minute Ant slams on him for wanting reparations and being too loyal to black leaders but then he assuses him of being a fake black "Uncle Tom". Damn, Earl, Ant has such contradictory ideas about race that Crazed could point out the weakness of his arguments and win the debate. How could you let Mr. Cumia make you look like an idiot the other day?
I got so irritated by Earl letting Anthony off the hook on all of the racist things that he has said that I actually started compiling mp3 files of Anthony's racist rants to send in so that Earl could use concrete examples. Then I thought better of it and realized either this is a big work or Earl really is a mumble mouthed motherfucker, and even if I sent him video of Anthony at a Klan rally he'd still find a way to snatch defeat out of thin air.
yojimbo7248
10-30-2008, 03:48 PM
I wouldn't take what he says to Earl on-air as indicative of his true feelings towards Earl. I get a feeling he doesn't really think those things of the guy and is just doing his job.
His political rants on the other hand... ech. That sounds pretty real to me.
I buy that. He did seem like he was winding Earl up.
GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 04:03 PM
I got so irritated by Earl letting Anthony off the hook on all of the racist things that he has said that I actually started compiling mp3 files of Anthony's racist rants to send in so that Earl could use concrete examples. Then I thought better of it and realized either this is a big work or Earl really is a mumble mouthed motherfucker, and even if I sent him video of Anthony at a Klan rally he'd still find a way to snatch defeat out of thin air.
i think anyone would have problems debating Anthony on air...Anthony knows how to win radio arguments.
Death Metal Moe
10-30-2008, 05:38 PM
do u guys think that part of the problem with this election isn't so much that anthony is "racist" but more that its the EXACT SAME RANT everyday? Like, even people that agree with him have to be a little bored..its always the same break
if they did the same break about any topic everyday i think whatever it is people will get bored
and every rant about Obama is exactly the same. Every single time he'll always go "he just has this...*beat* cult of personality" delivered the exact same way..its like a "best of" everyday
Yes, I agree. I don't want to be the guy that says "I hate when Anthony gets racist" because when he uses racial humor, it's funny. I find that stuff funny. What I don't find funny is THE SAME THING everytime Obama comes up or another culture comes up.
You are right, it's the sameness I don't like. If he kept it fresh I'd laugh, but it's the same paniced rants everytime with Obama and any other story about another culture besides his narrow view of what's not a "Savage bunch of people."
Enough, please.
Nothing Sound
10-30-2008, 05:49 PM
I have never in my life been "hurt" by a word.
A word is just that, a word and nothing else.
Allow someone to put you down constantly over and over again. Then after time, tell me its not hurtful
From words?
Yeah. Maybe if I was like 10 years old.
Death Metal Moe
10-30-2008, 06:05 PM
From words?
Yeah. Maybe if I was like 10 years old.
To be constantly devalued as a human being for years? Yes, that will hurt you. I don't want racial humor to stop because it's humor and not meant to actually hurt people. But if you call someone a piece of garbage everyday, or call them names that devalue them as people, yea, that's gonna get to you after awhile. Then if others join in, yea, that's gonna hurt too.
Then you can't use their drinking fountains and the only job you can get is a fucking caddy or train porter? Yea, you're gonna get extremely pissed.
But the 2 things aren't connected. Humor is meant to cause laughter and happiness, racism is meant to cause pain. I am sick of Anthony's crap on the radio because it's the SAME shit over and over again, not just because it's racist sometimes.
Drunky McBetidont
10-30-2008, 06:15 PM
anthony is not a racist. he thinks white people are better than other colors of people, yes. but a racist??? heck no. he is a nice boy from a nice family and he has a nice disposition.
Drunky McBetidont
10-30-2008, 06:17 PM
To be constantly devalued as a human being for years? Yes, that will hurt you. I don't want racial humor to stop because it's humor and not meant to actually hurt people. But if you call someone a piece of garbage everyday, or call them names that devalue them as people, yea, that's gonna get to you after awhile. Then if others join in, yea, that's gonna hurt too.
Then you can't use their drinking fountains and the only job you can get is a fucking caddy or train porter? Yea, you're gonna get extremely pissed.
But the 2 things aren't connected. Humor is meant to cause laughter and happiness, racism is meant to cause pain. I am sick of Anthony's crap on the radio because it's the SAME shit over and over again, not just because it's racist sometimes.
25 posts 2 go till 30k.
lets antagonize him into a posting fury :)
Death Metal Moe
10-30-2008, 06:34 PM
25 posts 2 go till 30k.
lets antagonize him into a posting fury :)
I would have never noticed if you hadn't pointed it out. I gave up watching my post count long ago. I hardly post anymore and Mojo has always had more posts than me, so it never really mattered anyway.
Ask Mojo, he probably doesn't care either.
Nothing Sound
10-30-2008, 06:39 PM
To be constantly devalued as a human being for years? Yes, that will hurt you.
From just words?
Maybe you are that weak, but not me my friend.
TheMojoPin
10-30-2008, 07:31 PM
Maybe you are that weak, but not me my friend.
You schtick is sooooooo played out.
TheMojoPin
10-30-2008, 07:31 PM
I would have never noticed if you hadn't pointed it out. I gave up watching my post count long ago. I hardly post anymore and Mojo has always had more posts than me, so it never really mattered anyway.
Ask Mojo, he probably doesn't care either.
Post counts blow.
WillfulBoy
10-30-2008, 08:21 PM
The word prejudice means just that. Pre-judge. Everyone pre-judges everyone else.
I like the way Ant worded it. He's not racist he's just statistically aware. If 95% of the home invasions are perpetrated by young black guys, you wouldn't get real nervous when a little old lady knocks on your door, but when a group of black gang bangers are circling the block if you're smart (like prof. Anthony) you know you should have your firearm cocked and ready to go, if you want to stay alive. If I had tons of money and was fucking 10s like Anthony does, I'd be extra cautious and worried about keeping myself alive too. Imagine protecting yourself for your cock's well-being.
At least Anthony doesn't prejudge every black person he meets. I'm not so sure he does the "content of their character shit" like he talked about, but he does have some black friends, like Earl and Patrice, so he's not a total Nazi like people think. I'd say he's more of realist. If you look at the statistics Anthony is right on. A disproportionate number of black people are on the streets committing crime or in prison. I grew up a block from the projects, went to the same crappy schools, I even spent a few years as a tin knocker myself, making plenums for an HVAC company. Hell, I even helped out on a friend's show at his college radio station, at UNH. I'd spend a few minutes every hour reading the traffic, weather and AP news reports. The rest of the time I spent pulling the music that I wanted to play, and sticking all the free CDs that I wanted in my bag. But unfortunately for me, my friend was no Opie, and I wasn't a comedic genius with the ability to do impressions. I didn't get the multimillion dollar contracts but I'm just as statistically aware as Anthony. I read the same papers, and watch the same news stories. And you can't blame the media for printing the stories. My local paper prints the police blotter with every crime that police investigate or make an arrest in. In a suburban area with less than 700 blacks out of 400,000 people, most of the people arrested are black, with a small number of whites, hispanics, and indians thrown in. If that's not disproportionate nothing is.
Everyone has some racism. People distrust people that are different from them. White people hate black people, Blacks hate Hispanics, and Hispanics hate Asians, everyone hates Indians and Muslims, and the Greeks and Turkish people everyone else, as well as each other. And I almost forgot rednecks, and Muslims hate Jews, and as far as I know the Jews are just a self-hating bunch. Hell, black people break themselves up by shades of black. They fight with lighter skinned or what they call "high yellow" blacks, and even they distrust the black as tar blacks because they can't see them at night either . Most stereotypes are based on facts and people distrust people that look or act different than them.
:clap: Bravo to Anthony for being honest. Fuck Earl. He's even more of a racist than Anthony and wont even admit it. He's voting for Obama just because of race, and he wants reparations for work he never even did. In fact, if his family was involved in the slavery his laziness over the past 20 years has more than made up for any of the free labor his ancestors might have provided. Although with a last name like Douglas, I'd say he came over from England not Africa. 40 acres and a mule my ass. Earl do some work for a change. Maybe its high time Ronnie started crackin the whip.
By the way...
Does anyone think McCain would have a chance, even if we counted the black votes as 3/5ths of a vote, like they did back in the old days?
thejives
10-30-2008, 08:34 PM
He's not racist he's just statistically aware.
Then why did you vote "yes"?
Honestly. Racists are so stupid.
sailor
10-30-2008, 11:35 PM
Everyone has some racism.
Then why did you vote "yes"?
Honestly. Racists are so stupid.
that's why, silly.
Nothing Sound
10-31-2008, 12:12 AM
You schtick is sooooooo played out.
I guess it would be, if it were actually a schtick.
If you only knew my friend. If you only knew.
spoon
10-31-2008, 12:22 AM
I guess it would be, if it were actually a schtick.
If you only knew my friend. If you only knew.
Yes, if only he knew....wait, what?! How about you explain this one ns?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 06:42 AM
I guess it would be, if it were actually a schtick.
If you only knew my friend. If you only knew.
To "know" would require caring.
If you were actually the super cool nihilist you so desperately want to be seen as, you wouldn't be here in the first place.
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 06:44 AM
Gibberish
Well, at least now it's clear what you so Willfully are.
The whole "everybody is a racist" line is such bullshit.
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2008, 07:22 AM
From just words?
Maybe you are that weak, but not me my friend.
Hear the same thing over and over again for years, it will effect you. That's why you can sue and win for things like that. They exist.
Sorry if you're so much tougher and more strong willed than all of us. We get it.
IamPixie
10-31-2008, 07:33 AM
I guess it would be, if it were actually a schtick.
If you only knew my friend. If you only knew.
Yea, Mojo. Watch out for the faceless, racist, internet tough guy. Trust me, You don't want to see the history tab on his Firefox.
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 07:34 AM
Yea, Mojo. Watch out for the faceless, racist, internet tough guy. Trust me, You don't want to see the history tab on his Firefox.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzing.
IamPixie
10-31-2008, 07:39 AM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzing.
I love catty moments with Mojo!
Have you forgotten about Jocktober?
Love Jocktober
jamie38
10-31-2008, 08:23 AM
i think anyone would have problems debating Anthony on air...Anthony knows how to win radio arguments.
Anthony's not a bad debater, but whenever someone (especially a caller) makes a good point he just starts screaming over them because it's his show. That's not really winning in my book.
I like Anthony, and I think he's a really funny guy. But, the racist stuff is starting to make me kind of uncomfortable. Plus, it's the same damn comments ever day now.
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 08:28 AM
I love catty moments with Mojo!
Everyone assumes Pixie is all sweet and innoncent because of the name, but then she does a 180 and just BRUTALIZES someone and the whole room has to stop and stare.
The Ogre
10-31-2008, 01:07 PM
Anthony's not a bad debater, but whenever someone (especially a caller) makes a good point he just starts screaming over them because it's his show. That's not really winning in my book.
I like Anthony, and I think he's a really funny guy. But, the racist stuff is starting to make me kind of uncomfortable. Plus, it's the same damn comments ever day now.
Agreed. He's only a good debater and wins arguments when he's arguing with an idiot. The other week a dude called in and bashed the three of them for being old men who propbably weren't even registered to vote and all three of them were at a loss. Anthony screamed but didn't refute any of the guy's points. I'm just a simple blue collar guy and I'd smash him.
And of course the racist comments bug the shit out of me as well. Having a black mom basically precludes you from being a part of the O & A audience. Then again it might not just be folks like me who got sick of their act considering they got drop kicked out the door at most of their stations.
sailor
10-31-2008, 01:16 PM
Everyone assumes Pixie is all sweet and innoncent because of the name, but then she does a 180 and just BRUTALIZES someone and the whole room has to stop and stare.
she's even meaner in person.
spoon
10-31-2008, 01:21 PM
she's even meaner in person.
Ah, she's cuddly like this polar bear. I'm sure that dog will be fine....just fine.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NGSPOD02/104173~A-Polar-Bear-Ursus-Maritimus-and-a-Husky-Cuddle-up-to-Each-Other-in-the-Snow-Posters.jpg
IamPixie
10-31-2008, 04:33 PM
she's even meaner in person.
you love me.
Ah, she's cuddly like this polar bear. I'm sure that dog will be fine....just fine.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NGSPOD02/104173~A-Polar-Bear-Ursus-Maritimus-and-a-Husky-Cuddle-up-to-Each-Other-in-the-Snow-Posters.jpg
lol....you're so random
Nothing Sound
10-31-2008, 07:00 PM
To "know" would require caring.
If you were actually the super cool nihilist you so desperately want to be seen as, you wouldn't be here in the first place.
Cool? That's actually the furthest thing I want to be seen as.
Just as I thought. You don't get it and probably never will.
Oh well.
scottinnj
10-31-2008, 07:04 PM
Post counts blow.
Says you.
One more-kazowie!
Nothing Sound
10-31-2008, 07:05 PM
Yea, Mojo. Watch out for the faceless, racist, internet tough guy. Trust me, You don't want to see the history tab on his Firefox.
I'm faceless only because I wear a hood.
Where did I ever say that I use Firefox?
Nothing Sound
10-31-2008, 07:07 PM
Hear the same thing over and over again for years, it will effect you. That's why you can sue and win for things like that. They exist.
You can sue and win for calling someone a name?
Really? Give me an example. You've now gotten my curiosity.
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2008, 07:10 PM
You can sue and win for calling someone a name?
Really? Give me an example. You've now gotten my curiosity.
If you constantly defame someone's character you can sue and win, I site no examples because I don't know law. You go figure it out if you want to know so bad.
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 07:20 PM
Seriously, why is this Nothing Sound guy even here? His responses amount to telling us how little he cares about anything, especially not the expectations and conventions of society. Why would a person so desperate to seem like a jaded non-conformist join a message board in the first place? If you're so above us or better than the rest of us and what we like or dislike or our opinions, what are you doing here?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 07:21 PM
Just as I thought. You don't get it and probably never will.
There is no "it" to "get."
I like the way Ant worded it. He's not racist he's just statistically aware. If 95% of the home invasions are perpetrated by young black guys, you wouldn't get real nervous when a little old lady knocks on your door, but when a group of black gang bangers are circling the block if you're smart (like prof. Anthony) you know you should have your firearm cocked and ready to go, if you want to stay alive. If I had tons of money and was fucking 10s like Anthony does, I'd be extra cautious and worried about keeping myself alive too. Imagine protecting yourself for your cock's well-being.
You sir have no freaking clue how a society or statistics work. Please deliver me the fact that 95% of "home invasions" are by blacks. I'll be more than happy to tell you that crime is generally perpetrated by the economically repressed whom have nothing to lose, then this is a societal issue, not a racial issue. This is not a "now" issue, this is a history of the world issue.
Of course "Professor Anthony" didn't tell you that, did he?
Everyone has some racism.
Why? There is no proof to that claim. That is a statement to only make yourself feel better about your own prejudices.
:clap: Bravo to Anthony for being honest. Fuck Earl. He's even more of a racist than Anthony and wont even admit it.
Really? Like you have any clue about what Earl has dealt with in his lifetime regarding his race? And sorry...he's invested in a candidate via identification politics and he is the first? And maybe Earl feels that this candidate, unlike any other candidate in his lifetime understands the experience of America in the same manner he does, which is a turning point for him?
By the way...Does anyone think McCain would have a chance, even if we counted the black votes as 3/5ths of a vote, like they did back in the old days?
I'm sure you mean this in hyperbole, but your "subtle" racism shines through as "blatant" racism at this moment in time.
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2008, 09:23 PM
Seriously, why is this Nothing Sound guy even here? His responses amount to telling us how little he cares about anything, especially not the expectations and conventions of society. Why would a person so desperate to seem like a jaded non-conformist join a message board in the first place? If you're so above us or better than the rest of us and what we like or dislike or our opinions, what are you doing here?
Oh I don't know, I was just kinda poking the retard. I'm having a ball seeing his next snotty response to everything we write.
sailor
11-01-2008, 03:46 AM
you love me.
that's why your temper causes so much pain! :king:
By the way...
Does anyone think McCain would have a chance, even if we counted the black votes as 3/5ths of a vote, like they did back in the old days?
The fuck? :huh:
Nothing Sound
11-01-2008, 12:06 PM
If you're so above us or better than the rest of us and what we like or dislike or our opinions, what are you doing here?
Where did I ever say that I was above or better than anyone?
Like most people, you read in to stuff way too much.
Nothing Sound
11-01-2008, 12:21 PM
If you constantly defame someone's character you can sue and win, I site no examples because I don't know law. You go figure it out if you want to know so bad.
Why should I figure it out? You're the one that made the original comment. You're the one that acted like you knew what you were talking about. You said that you could sue someone for calling you names, and win. That's what YOU said, not me. Now all of a sudden you back peddle?
If I go to work every morning and walk up to the same person day after day, look them straight in the face and say, "you're a fucking asshole" they can not sue me. Well, they can try to sue me, but they're not going to win. It's called freedom of speech my friend. If that's my opinion of someone, if I truly think that they're a "fucking asshole" it's my right to voice that opinion. Can they punch me in the face when I say it? Sure they can, but then I have a right to sue because there is no freedom that allows you to physically hit someone unless it's self defense. I wouldn't sue them anyway because I have much better ways of dealing with people. For their sake though they had better be sure that I don't know where they live. And if I do know where they live they'd better make sure all the smoke detectors in their home are operating properly.
Bossanova
11-01-2008, 12:25 PM
Why should I figure it out? You're the one that made the original comment. You're the one that acted like you knew what you were talking about. You said that you could sue someone for calling you names, and win. That's what YOU said, not me. Now all of a sudden you back peddle?
If I go to work every morning and walk up to the same person day after day, look them straight in the face and say, "you're a fucking asshole" they can not sue me. Well, they can try to sue me, but they're not going to win. It's called freedom of speech my friend. If that's my opinion of someone, if I truly think that they're a "fucking asshole" it's my right to voice that opinion. Can they punch me in the face when I say it? Sure they can, but then I have a right to sue because there is no freedom that allows you to physically hit someone unless it's self defense. I wouldn't sue them anyway because I have much better ways of dealing with people. For their sake though they had better be sure that I don't know where they live. And if I do know where they live they'd better make sure all the smoke detectors in their home are operating properly.
What if instead of punching you they called your mom an Asian dick sucking cunt every day?
GreatAmericanZero
11-01-2008, 12:37 PM
In Nothing Sound's defense..let me play Devil's Advocate for a second...
RAWR I AM THE DEVIL AND I AM SCARY AND I AM TALKING CUZ IM THE DEVIL RAAAAAAWWWWWWR
http://www.halloween-mask.com/Marz/devil_headpiece_RC-67006mrz.jpg
in all seriousness, I think there are people out there that don't really understand "being offended" by general comments. I think I'm one of those people too. I don't understand people being offended by general comments made by people about race and sex and stuff. I can understand being offended by personal comments though.
If someone says general comments about race I will judge them by it...i would think they are stupid or ignorant or dickheads...but i don't get offended. There are people like that
and there are people that do get offended
guess everyones different
donnie_darko
11-01-2008, 12:42 PM
who the fuck seriously uses the word "oreo"
seriously.
Jubjubs
11-01-2008, 01:00 PM
What if instead of punching you they called your mom an Asian dick sucking cunt every day?
Starvin'.
TheMojoPin
11-01-2008, 04:48 PM
Where did I ever say that I was above or better than anyone?
Because most of your posts are shitting on other people here for their opinions or how they live their lives.
thejives
11-01-2008, 04:52 PM
So based on the results, it looks like .net agrees Anthony is a racist.
Does this mean there's going to be another radio war?
brettmojo
11-01-2008, 05:18 PM
So based on the results, it looks like .net agrees Anthony is a racist.
Does this mean there's going to be another radio war?
No, Earl would apologize for it before it even started.
thejives
11-01-2008, 05:33 PM
No, Earl would apologize for it before it even started.
He's secured peace in our time.
KnoxHarrington
11-01-2008, 10:19 PM
Anthony uses two of the worst excuses of the unrepentant racist: appeal to stats, and the "Everyone's racist" line. First, about the stats: is there a higher rate of incarceration and/or violent offenses amongst African-Americans than white people? Yes. But is this because they are black, or is it poverty? And doesn't Anthony's conclusion that black people are more violent by nature perpetuate that cycle?
Is everyone "racist"? No, I don't believe so. Does everyone have prejudices? Yeah, I'd say that. I mean, I'm not going to claim that if I'm walking down the street and a black guy walks towards me, I don't feel that little twinge of fear. But I keep walking down the fucking street. You don't give in to it. You say "This is bullshit" and go on.
Anthony sounds like a small little man who can't get past his own fears. That's not just racism, it's cowardice.
Death Metal Moe
11-02-2008, 05:03 AM
Why should I figure it out? You're the one that made the original comment. You're the one that acted like you knew what you were talking about. You said that you could sue someone for calling you names, and win. That's what YOU said, not me. Now all of a sudden you back peddle?
If I go to work every morning and walk up to the same person day after day, look them straight in the face and say, "you're a fucking asshole" they can not sue me. Well, they can try to sue me, but they're not going to win. It's called freedom of speech my friend. If that's my opinion of someone, if I truly think that they're a "fucking asshole" it's my right to voice that opinion. Can they punch me in the face when I say it? Sure they can, but then I have a right to sue because there is no freedom that allows you to physically hit someone unless it's self defense. I wouldn't sue them anyway because I have much better ways of dealing with people. For their sake though they had better be sure that I don't know where they live. And if I do know where they live they'd better make sure all the smoke detectors in their home are operating properly.
Wow, I guess I poked him real good that time.
If you called someone names everyday they'd go to Human Resources and have you checked out and eventually fired, then the person would either sue you or the company because you are nothing and the company has lots of money.
I am done poking this retard. If you don't want to believe it, then don't.
Death Metal Moe
11-02-2008, 05:04 AM
As for Anthony's racism, the point of this thread, I hardly listened this week because of the chance he's slip into another one of his rants. Was he better, worse or the same? I can only imagine he's losing his shit this week.
jauble
11-02-2008, 05:32 AM
He's secured peace in our time.
http://mail.colonial.net/~glazer/Neville_Chamberlain2.jpg
so was he white earl?
danner1515
11-02-2008, 05:55 AM
Is everyone "racist"? No, I don't believe so. Does everyone have prejudices? Yeah, I'd say that. I mean, I'm not going to claim that if I'm walking down the street and a black guy walks towards me, I don't feel that little twinge of fear. But I keep walking down the fucking street. You don't give in to it. You say "This is bullshit" and go on.
That's the one that gets me. He acts like if you don't think the way he does about race, you're lying to yourself. He's the realist. We're ALL racist. NO ONE can talk about a black person without giddily dropping an N-bomb.
I've spent my entire life in the South, and listening to Opie & Anthony and their callers has completely shattered any delusion I might have had that racism is something that exclusively exists below the Mason-Dixon line. It's alive and well throughout this great country.
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 06:42 AM
Anthony uses two of the worst excuses of the unrepentant racist: appeal to stats, and the "Everyone's racist" line. First, about the stats: is there a higher rate of incarceration and/or violent offenses amongst African-Americans than white people? Yes. But is this because they are black, or is it poverty? And doesn't Anthony's conclusion that black people are more violent by nature perpetuate that cycle?
Is everyone "racist"? No, I don't believe so. Does everyone have prejudices? Yeah, I'd say that. I mean, I'm not going to claim that if I'm walking down the street and a black guy walks towards me, I don't feel that little twinge of fear. But I keep walking down the fucking street. You don't give in to it. You say "This is bullshit" and go on.
Anthony sounds like a small little man who can't get past his own fears. That's not just racism, it's cowardice.
Well said.
Nothing Sound
11-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Because most of your posts are shitting on other people here for their opinions or how they live their lives.
And I can say the same about people doing that to me here as well.
I've had posts and even entire threads deleted here for voicing my opinion.
An opinion can not be right or wrong. That's why it's called "an opinion"
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 07:14 AM
And I can say the same about people doing that to me here as well.
I've had posts and even entire threads deleted here for voicing my opinion.
An opinion can not be right or wrong. That's why it's called "an opinion"
Becase your "opinion" is too often devoted to obviously trying to start arguments or specifically attacking other posters here.
PaulMc
11-02-2008, 10:40 AM
He uses racism because he is really not that funny.
Heather 8
11-02-2008, 11:14 AM
As for Anthony's racism, the point of this thread, I hardly listened this week because of the chance he's slip into another one of his rants. Was he better, worse or the same? I can only imagine he's losing his shit this week.
From the few times I was able to tune in, it seemd about the same. I'm just waiting for November 5th for him to either be completely smug or to completely lose his shit.
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 11:26 AM
From the few times I was able to tune in, it seemd about the same. I'm just waiting for November 5th for him to either be completely smug or to completely lose his shit.
He's going to completely lose his shit.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 12:27 PM
He uses racism because he is really not that funny.
That's unfair, because Anthony, when he actually WORKS, can be funny.
But the 'racism' is just more of Anthony's disconnection with the audience. 95 percent of O&A's audience will benefit from what Obama wants to do.
As for the five percent who won't, the term "go screw" comes to mind.
GreatAmericanZero
11-02-2008, 12:33 PM
That's unfair, because Anthony, when he actually WORKS, can be funny.
But the 'racism' is just more of Anthony's disconnection with the audience. 95 percent of O&A's audience will benefit from what Obama wants to do.
As for the five percent who won't, the term "go screw" comes to mind.
yeah when Anthony was ranting about Gene Simmons i was like "this guy can be really really funny". I'm just bored with the constant "gun talk" and "N(bleeps)". Just played out for me at the current moment
Death Metal Moe
11-02-2008, 02:39 PM
That's unfair, because Anthony, when he actually WORKS, can be funny.
But the 'racism' is just more of Anthony's disconnection with the audience. 95 percent of O&A's audience will benefit from what Obama wants to do.
That's the most frustrating part of this whole thing. We all know how great Anthony can be on air, I want that guy back. Not the one that falls into the same rants for a month now.
Another thing I find kinda disturbing is over on Wackbag, Anthony has converted quite a few people who don't even understand what they're voting for. Sure there are honest Repulbicans there, but I find there to be a disproportional amount of people who side with Anthony on the board. I think he is banking on a few of them voting for McCain because of him, that's why he rants. He's willing to buddy up with anyone, even those rednecks they play clips of and make fun of, to get a McCain win.
WillfulBoy
11-02-2008, 02:55 PM
that's why, silly.
Thank you sir. At least somebody pays attention
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 03:06 PM
Another thing I find kinda disturbing is over on Wackbag, Anthony has converted quite a few people who don't even understand what they're voting for. Sure there are honest Repulbicans there, but I find there to be a disproportional amount of people who side with Anthony on the board. I think he is banking on a few of them voting for McCain because of him, that's why he rants. He's willing to buddy up with anyone, even those rednecks they play clips of and make fun of, to get a McCain win.
Anthony thinking he can bag a win for McCain is just as delusional as Howard thinking he could bag a win for Kerry in 2004.
The fact of the matter is, no matter how powerful shock jocks think they are, the electoral college is the great equalizer.
One of two things are going to happen - Obama is gonna SMASH McCain in electoral votes, or the Bradley Effect is going to give us President McCain.
Tall_James
11-02-2008, 03:10 PM
Which one is Anthony again?
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 03:11 PM
Which one is Anthony again?
The one with the fire pit.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 03:20 PM
The one with the fire pit.
The one with the bleached sheets.
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 03:21 PM
The one with the bleached sheets.
The one who can never take his dates to a place that serves alcohol.
WillfulBoy
11-02-2008, 03:27 PM
same damn comments ever day now.
Of course the comments are the same. He's scared. Its getting down to wire. He's really worried about what's gonna happen in the next couple of days, when the people he dislikes and distrusts, thrust one of their own into the Whitehouse. (granted with a little help from the traders of his race)
He'd probably rather keep paying his ex-wife than to have his guns taken away so he can't protect himself from the "athletes" anymore, and then be forced to pay more money to support the socialist welfare system that he thinks Barack brings with him. --just sayin!
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 03:28 PM
Of course the comments are the same. He's scared. Its getting down to wire. He's really worried about what's gonna happen in the next couple of days, when the people he dislikes and distrusts, thrust one of their own into the Whitehouse. (granted with a little help from the traders of his race) He's gonna have to pay a little more to support the dregs of society. He'd probably rather keep paying his ex-wife than to have his guns taken away so he can't protect himself from the "athletes" anymore and then be forced to pay more money to support the socialist welfare system that he thinks Barack brings with him. --just sayin!
And puuuuunnnnttttt...
lleeder
11-02-2008, 03:30 PM
Whats the name of some those other racists?
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 03:31 PM
One of two things are going to happen - Obama is gonna SMASH McCain in electoral votes, or the Bradley Effect is going to give us President McCain.
The best thing about Obama's win is it'll hopefully sweep away the ridiculous use of "the Bradley Effect." It's hopelessly outdated and the electoral context and models were vastly different.
torker
11-02-2008, 03:41 PM
Whats the name of some those other racists?
Imus.
KnoxHarrington
11-02-2008, 03:48 PM
The best thing about Obama's win is it'll hopefully sweep away the ridiculous use of "the Bradley Effect." It's hopelessly outdated and the electoral context and models were vastly different.
I don't buy it because I don't understand why someone who won't vote for Obama because he's black would say they're voting for him. My guess is that if they're not willing to say it's because he's black, they'd still say they're voting for McCain, but give different reasons.
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 03:58 PM
Imus.
Tha' Grease Maaahhhnnn.
WillfulBoy
11-02-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't buy it because I don't understand why someone who won't vote for Obama because he's black would say they're voting for him. My guess is that if they're not willing to say it's because he's black, they'd still say they're voting for McCain, but give different reasons.
I'm no Obama fan, but can you really come up with a good reason to vote for McCain? I just can't imagine that in a country of 320 million or so people these are best 2 candidates we could find to run. Especially now when the country needs so much help. :help:
Nothing Sound
11-02-2008, 04:35 PM
Becase your "opinion" is too often devoted to obviously trying to start arguments or specifically attacking other posters here.
I think you have your facts a little backwards here.
Where have I ever "attacked" anyone on this message board?
Seems to me that I'm the one always being attacked for my opinions.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 05:14 PM
Can I ask a dumb question about Anthony's guns?
Is being in the top 1% give you extra arms and hands? Because I'm not sure why you'd need more than 2. It's not like you can make people deader.
Samurai only needed a long sword and a short sword. I can't see what you'd need with more than a glock and an AR-15.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 05:16 PM
The best thing about Obama's win is it'll hopefully sweep away the ridiculous use of "the Bradley Effect." It's hopelessly outdated and the electoral context and models were vastly different.
Still, the thing is... you just don't know. This election is going to be incredibly weird. Part of me thinks it's going to be the second coming of Reagan/Mondale in favor of Obama, and the other part of me thinks it's going to be very close.
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 05:18 PM
This election is going to be incredibly weird.
Why?
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 05:25 PM
Why?
Because as I said, you just don't know. Why did McCain lose to Bush in the 2000 primaries? Why did Bush win against Gore?
I've basically been ostracized by my family, again, because I'm voting for Obama. The same shit happened 16 years ago when I dared support Clinton. And why? Because my dad's been spouting some of the same rants Anthony's had, minus the racism, about Obama.
Pootertoot broke it down for me last night; the "sharing the wealth" crap that people are repeating is just the tax system that was in place for a long time before Bush came in and fucked it up, basically.
It takes a lot for me to break ranks with moderates. The issue is, quite simply, is that I despised the choice of Sarah Palin as VP, and I fear that McCain will focus too much on Iraq and not enough on Afghanistan.
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 05:26 PM
Can I ask a dumb question about Anthony's guns?
Is being in the top 1% give you extra arms and hands? Because I'm not sure why you'd need more than 2. It's not like you can make people deader.
Samurai only needed a long sword and a short sword. I can't see what you'd need with more than a glock and an AR-15.
It's a collectible hobby just like cars or whatever. Or even like video games. You can't play two at once either.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 05:27 PM
It's a collectible hobby just like cars or whatever. Or even like video games. You can't play two at once either.
Yeah, but here's the thing: My copy of Madden can't accidentally turn Babygirl's head into a canoe.
brettmojo
11-02-2008, 05:38 PM
Yeah, but here's the thing: My copy of Madden can't accidentally turn Babygirl's head into a canoe.
Meh. Darwin's Theory at work.
PhilDeez
11-02-2008, 05:42 PM
As for the five percent who won't, the term "go screw" comes to mind.
That is just the attitude that strengthens the "sharing of the wealth" argument. Why should a financially successfully individual be told to f off and toss over a larger percentage of income than all others just because they are that - successful?
I am not trying to stir up shit, but that's not really the greatest way to argue the point.
TheMojoPin
11-02-2008, 05:43 PM
Because as I said, you just don't know. Why did McCain lose to Bush in the 2000 primaries? Why did Bush win against Gore?
Because Bush pulled out the stops with the dirty tricks and McCain couldn't complete playing it clean.
Because Gore distanced himself from the Clintons too much and Bush capitalized on the "outsider" hype.
Neither were upsets and didn't come out of nowhere.
Tenbatsuzen
11-02-2008, 06:15 PM
That is just the attitude that strengthens the "sharing of the wealth" argument. Why should a financially successfully individual be told to f off and toss over a larger percentage of income than all others just because they are that - successful?
I am not trying to stir up shit, but that's not really the greatest way to argue the point.
Because the ones who will feel it the most are the ones who fucked this country up. Two words: Golden parachutes.
Obama's plan is no different than what was in place before the Bush Administration. They want to use "sharing the wealth" as something evil, but quite simply, it's an elimination of the tax breaks that Bush had in place for the rich.
PhilDeez
11-02-2008, 06:21 PM
Because the ones who will feel it the most are the ones who fucked this country up. Two words: Golden parachutes.
Obama's plan is no different than what was in place before the Bush Administration. They want to use "sharing the wealth" as something evil, but quite simply, it's an elimination of the tax breaks that Bush had in place for the rich.
I disagree, those with Golden Parachutes got lump sum packages and are not earning income any more, much less 250k or more.
I am not arguing that the Bush tax cuts unfairly favored those that would be least effected by fluctuations in a tax rate, I just think "screw off" is really just a "wah wah you make more than me so pay more" argument that stokes the fire for those who really feel this is redistribution of wealth.
Death Metal Moe
11-04-2008, 07:13 AM
Wow, I'm a little more impressed with Wackbag today. I actually just saw and posted in a thread entitled "I'm tired of Ant's rhetoric." Of course the poster who started it is getting shouted down, but I'm impressed the thread even exists there.
I love the board but one of my main complaits is to stay in the limelight on the show, the board almost completely eliminates any discussion that doesn't support the show, thereby not allowing any honest talking about problems real fans might have. Any straight out bashing should be eliminated, but no discussion? I don't like that.
jamie38
11-04-2008, 11:14 AM
Wow, I'm a little more impressed with Wackbag today. I actually just saw and posted in a thread entitled "I'm tired of Ant's rhetoric." Of course the poster who started it is getting shouted down, but I'm impressed the thread even exists there.
I love the board but one of my main complaits is to stay in the limelight on the show, the board almost completely eliminates any discussion that doesn't support the show, thereby not allowing any honest talking about problems real fans might have. Any straight out bashing should be eliminated, but no discussion? I don't like that.
Yeah I noticed that too. I'm kind of new to the whole message board thing, and mostly just lurk on them when there's absolutely nothing to do at work. But, I've kind of been turned off wackbag. A good chunk of the posters just come off as outrageously racist and uneducated. I don't know if it's just to back Anthony or if it's genuine.
NYHCmikeX
11-04-2008, 11:25 AM
Wow, I'm a little more impressed with Wackbag today. I actually just saw and posted in a thread entitled "I'm tired of Ant's rhetoric." Of course the poster who started it is getting shouted down, but I'm impressed the thread even exists there.
I love the board but one of my main complaits is to stay in the limelight on the show, the board almost completely eliminates any discussion that doesn't support the show, thereby not allowing any honest talking about problems real fans might have. Any straight out bashing should be eliminated, but no discussion? I don't like that.
Wackbag is full of sheep for the most part. Anytime you disagree with the show on there, you're labeled a hater. Everyone shits on you because they dont want Opie to cry about how the fan boards arent fans because someone doesnt like a particular bit, or has the gaul to think something got played out, then he yells "eat your own!" and the sheep come out.
Death Metal Moe
11-04-2008, 11:55 AM
I generally have always enjoyed Wackbag, there are plenty of meatheads there, but there are some of those here as well.
I'm in the middle of a fairly calm discussion in that thread with a few posters, but there's a lot of "Fuck off and dies" directed at some people sick of Ant's rants.
Eh, let's see where it goes. If Obama wins tonight, I'm just going to take 202 off my presets for a month.
NYHCmikeX
11-04-2008, 12:07 PM
The off-topic parts of Wackbag for the most part are really cool. Just the discussions about O&A and anything regarding the show or topics from the show gets out of hand usually.
I have no problem listening to a show whose politics I dont agree with, maybe because I dont feel strongly about much in politics, but if Obama wins, I'll still listen to both shows, I'll just know 45 minutes of each O&A show will be filled with tired racist jokes and rants about guns and Anthony's money (which I could give two shits about, I dont care how much he has to pay in taxes).
ChrisTheCop
11-04-2008, 12:24 PM
I havent read any of this thread, but just wanna say I liked it better when the title was
Is Anthony Rasict?
Made me smile everytime.
Bay Ridge Tim
11-04-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm not sure if racist is the defining characteristic when it come to race, although it frequently applies.
I actually felt bad for Anthony today when he said that blacks and whites can't be friends and can't really know each other because they come from different cultures.
Slumbag
11-04-2008, 06:45 PM
I was listening to the show today.
While Ant has a few valid points, I still think if Obama was a white candidate, he wouldn't have ever brought it up.
KnoxHarrington
11-04-2008, 08:25 PM
I'm not sure if racist is the defining characteristic when it come to race, although it frequently applies.
I actually felt bad for Anthony today when he said that blacks and whites can't be friends and can't really know each other because they come from different cultures.
That's one of those statements that pisses you off, then saddens you when you think about it. He's locked into his own fear.
conman823
11-04-2008, 09:45 PM
I'm not sure if racist is the defining characteristic when it come to race, although it frequently applies.
I actually felt bad for Anthony today when he said that blacks and whites can't be friends and can't really know each other because they come from different cultures.
That's one of those statements that pisses you off, then saddens you when you think about it. He's locked into his own fear.
QFT
I think his views represent an "old school" ignorance of other races. His voice and views are a dying breed in this country and tonights poll number prove that hands down.
........still I can't WAIT to have his head explode at 6AM. I just wish I could be in the office at 5.
Does Anthony want to come crash at my place now that we have President-Elect Obama?
GreatAmericanZero
11-05-2008, 04:09 AM
QFT
I think his views represent an "old school" ignorance of other races. His voice and views are a dying breed in this country and tonights poll number prove that hands down.
........still I can't WAIT to have his head explode at 6AM. I just wish I could be in the office at 5.
yeah he has the view of a long island teenager in the early 70s. His mind never matured past that
Death Metal Moe
11-05-2008, 07:52 AM
I'm not turning on O&A on my ride to work or turning XM on during a replay for the rest of this week.
If he's half as batshit insane as he was duing last night's Election Show, I'm not going to want to deal with it.
jamie38
11-05-2008, 08:00 AM
I'm not turning on O&A on my ride to work or turning XM on during a replay for the rest of this week.
If he's half as batshit insane as he was duing last night's Election Show, I'm not going to want to deal with it.
He was on the election show? What was he saying? Same old, same old?
NYHCmikeX
11-05-2008, 08:01 AM
He was on the election show? What was he saying? Same old, same old?
He called in. And yes.
Death Metal Moe
11-05-2008, 08:27 AM
He called in. And yes.
My sentiments exactly.
angrymissy
11-05-2008, 08:43 AM
I kept flipping to it today and it was bad. BLACKS WILL EXPECT ALL SORTS OF THINGS NOW! THEY NEED TO ACCEPT THERE IS NO RACISM ANYMORE! WHY ARE THEY EXCITED AND CRYING ???
I hope it's partially an act
foodcourtdruide
11-05-2008, 08:44 AM
I kept flipping to it today and it was bad. BLACKS WILL EXPECT ALL SORTS OF THINGS NOW! THEY NEED TO ACCEPT THERE IS NO RACISM ANYMORE! WHY ARE THEY EXCITED AND CRYING ???
I hope it's partially an act
I couldn't stomach listening to him today, and if your account is accurate then I'm happy I didn't.
Dash77
11-05-2008, 11:23 AM
I listened to the start of today's show and couldn't believe what he was saying how much he complained today it's just unreal.. And how selfish he made it sound that it's all about him and like he's going to be so hurt by taxes, but what if Obama does a good job will Anthony still complain ??
jamie38
11-05-2008, 11:29 AM
but what if Obama does a good job will Anthony still complain ??
yes.
terryc25
11-05-2008, 11:34 AM
I am listening to the replay. He is insanely racist.
CofyCrakCocaine
11-05-2008, 12:10 PM
I hope someone beats a heavy boot up Don Imus' wrinkled ass for starting this fucking wave of oppressed white complex that's been saturating the entire show since.
Hithead
11-05-2008, 12:26 PM
And a faggot
Dougie
11-05-2008, 12:35 PM
I couldn't stomach listening to him today, and if your account is accurate then I'm happy I didn't.
I listened to the first 45 minutes. I find it hard to believe that he actually got offended when Earl called him out a few weeks ago. It's funny how most racist never think they are. I still listen. He's good for laughs on most days and I'm sure this will die down eventually. I got XM because of O&A and kept it because of R&F. Sometimes I think a lot of is an act but after listening today, I'm not so sure. Shout out to Lil Jimmy (and at times Opie) for being the voice of reason on that show most days.
GreatAmericanZero
11-05-2008, 12:38 PM
I was kinda laughing at Anthony today....I think I know why
yesterday i was so sick of his "rants" and I think its because he was trying to influence MY vote. I don't listen to Opie & Anthony to tell me who to vote for and it was annoying the shit out of me
Now its a done deal. Anthony is a loser. Now i can laugh at him because the agenda is gone. He doesn't need anything from ME. So I don't care what he says now...i just giggle at the rantings of an out-of-touch middleaged madman. Its kinda funny
Death Metal Moe
11-05-2008, 12:48 PM
Originally Posted by Dash77
but what if Obama does a good job will Anthony still complain ??
Oh don't worry, Ant already started the usual backpeddling that people like that do. He said something to the effect of "I bet now that he's in office things will get better because the economy is cyclical."
That's the same garbage I used to say about why Clinton had a surplus when I was being spoon fed my opinion by people like Rush, Hannity and Mark Levigne.
It's all fucking bullshit.
foodcourtdruide
11-05-2008, 12:51 PM
Oh don't worry, Ant already started the usual backpeddling that people like that do. He said something to the effect of "I bet now that he's in office things will get better because the economy is cyclical."
That's the same garbage I used to say about why Clinton had a surplus when I was being spoon fed my opinion by people like Rush, Hannity and Mark Levigne.
It's all fucking bullshit.
The economy has such a liberal bias. Will the LIBERAL ELITIST concept known as world peace break out too?
Oh don't worry, Ant already started the usual backpeddling that people like that do. He said something to the effect of "I bet now that he's in office things will get better because the economy is cyclical."
That's the same garbage I used to say about why Clinton had a surplus when I was being spoon fed my opinion by people like Rush, Hannity and Mark Levigne.
It's all fucking bullshit.
GREAT point!
reillyluck
11-05-2008, 01:03 PM
Yes.
Next Question.
realmenhatelife
11-06-2008, 03:52 AM
I'm actually getting legitimately bothered by how racist Anthony has gotten lately, it sucks the fun out of the show for me. It's the passive aggressive stuff, like acting that black people are really childish to feel any kind of enrichment from having a black president, or calling Obama "Barry," or that 100% of his success is due to a cult of personality.
It reminds me of when Dice was on and talked about how you cant be funny when you're really angry, and Anthony is just too bitter.
GreatAmericanZero
11-06-2008, 04:10 AM
I'm actually getting legitimately bothered by how racist Anthony has gotten lately, it sucks the fun out of the show for me. It's the passive aggressive stuff, like acting that black people are really childish to feel any kind of enrichment from having a black president, or calling Obama "Barry," or that 100% of his success is due to a cult of personality.
It reminds me of when Dice was on and talked about how you cant be funny when you're really angry, and Anthony is just too bitter.
to find a saving grace in the show, i DO think Opie is really quite funny egging Anthony on. When Opie is just going "its just people celebrating..its nice!"..i dunno, Opie is a pretty funny guy.
Also, I think Norton is as genuine of a person as can be, and although hes not doing it constantly, he has called out Anthony here and there with some great, legitimate points.
Whiskeyportal
11-06-2008, 04:13 AM
to find a saving grace in the show, i DO think Opie is really quite funny egging Anthony on. When Opie is just going "its just people celebrating..its nice!"..i dunno, Opie is a pretty funny guy.
Also, I think Norton is as genuine of a person as can be, and although hes not doing it constantly, he has called out Anthony here and there with some great, legitimate points.
I agree, it's really given me a new appreciation for Opie.
GreatAmericanZero
11-06-2008, 04:38 AM
Another point i want to make about Dice saying "you can't be funny if you're angry"
Dice must've been in a waaaaaaaaaaay pissed off mood when he filmed his "Down and Dirty" set
realmenhatelife
11-06-2008, 05:27 AM
Another point i want to make about Dice saying "you can't be funny if you're angry"
Dice must've been in a waaaaaaaaaaay pissed off mood when he filmed his "Down and Dirty" set
I like him calling people 'cocksucker face.' It's also funny how he does a bit on girls being bullshit when they gag on your dick, and Norton made the exact opposite point on the next show.
I'll agree that Opie does not get nearly enough credit for how funny he is, he kills it in a room full of much more overbearing comedic personalities.
Death Metal Moe
11-06-2008, 06:02 AM
Another thing that REALLY started to bother me when I thought about it more is his rationalization about WHY certian people voted for Obama.
The ONLY reason a black person voted for him was because he was black. Of course this did happen, but according to him there were no blacks who check his positions on things and voted on issues.
Then everyone else who voted for him was just "caught up in the celebrity" of Obama. He was a "Rock Star" according to Ant, and again, no one voted for him on his issues.
Fuck you Ant, you belitteling cocksucker. Don't fucking tell me why I voted for Obama. Just go apeshit at home and give us funny on the radio again. Because the same 20 minute rant for months isn't funny, I don't care what Opie thinks. I won't be listening this whole week. No one cares, but that's what I'm doing.
Oh yea, and 30K in you face bizniches.
FezPaul
11-06-2008, 10:01 AM
http://realityshifters.com/media/YokoYes.jpg
When I first saw that it reminded me of a Ono "work" that I saw in some movie about her and John. But I didn't remember the title. I had to click right save as... to solve the puzzle. Well played sir.
Charlie_Don't_Surf
11-06-2008, 10:01 AM
I find it amazing how n**** mania was hilarious to him yet he was angered by a black site that was by all means no where as hateful. BTW did anyone notice today how they dumped what Sal said, I can imagine the fun conversations at home. Also as a black person I don't try to tell any other race what they think or what their life is, yet Mr.Cumia goes on his daily rants trying to tell people what black people think and will do. I used to love Ant on the show but he is so obviously racist.
FezPaul
11-06-2008, 10:04 AM
I find it amazing how n**** mania was hilarious to him yet he was angered by a black site that was by all means no where as hateful. BTW did anyone notice today how they dumped what Sal said, I can imagine the fun conversations at home. Also as a black person I don't try to tell any other race what they think or what their life is, yet Mr.Cumia goes on his daily rants trying to tell people what black people think and will do. I used to love Ant on the show but he is so obviously racist.
You're black? I had assumed by your board name that you were Asian. Please excuse me. :smile:
RAAMONE
11-06-2008, 10:14 AM
I find it amazing how n**** mania was hilarious to him yet he was angered by a black site that was by all means no where as hateful. BTW did anyone notice today how they dumped what Sal said, I can imagine the fun conversations at home. Also as a black person I don't try to tell any other race what they think or what their life is, yet Mr.Cumia goes on his daily rants trying to tell people what black people think and will do. I used to love Ant on the show but he is so obviously racist.
even though ant might be racist...hes not as bad as people on those sights
he said that you almost have to laugh at how stupid some people are out there to be that over the top racist
Heather 8
11-06-2008, 10:48 AM
Another thing that REALLY started to bother me when I thought about it more is his rationalization about WHY certian people voted for Obama.
The ONLY reason a black person voted for him was because he was black. Of course this did happen, but according to him there were no blacks who check his positions on things and voted on issues.
Then everyone else who voted for him was just "caught up in the celebrity" of Obama. He was a "Rock Star" according to Ant, and again, no one voted for him on his issues.
Fuck you Ant, you belitteling cocksucker. Don't fucking tell me why I voted for Obama. Just go apeshit at home and give us funny on the radio again. Because the same 20 minute rant for months isn't funny, I don't care what Opie thinks. I won't be listening this whole week. No one cares, but that's what I'm doing.
Oh yea, and 30K in you face bizniches.
Odd, a few months ago it was "white guilt" that was getting Obama votes. I find him more fitting of the term "blowhard" than our own poster.
I've maybe listened a total of 8 minutes this week. That was about 7 minutes and 55 seconds too much.
Epschtein
11-06-2008, 11:21 AM
yeah it has been hard to stomach lately because he doesnt even try to be funny anymore, its just really angry racist rants.
the other day when he was talking about obama's comments on coal and he said 3 times "well then get me an engine that burns *beep*" and it was obvious that the implied word was niggers... i was pretty shocked, i immediately thought we would be hearing about it on some news station before long. there was no part of it that appeared to be an attempt at humor, it just sounded like real honest hatred.
jamie38
11-06-2008, 11:29 AM
yeah it has been hard to stomach lately because he doesnt even try to be funny anymore, its just really angry racist rants.
the other day when he was talking about obama's comments on coal and he said 3 times "well then get me an engine that burns *beep*" and it was obvious that the implied word was niggers... i was pretty shocked, i immediately thought we would be hearing about it on some news station before long. there was no part of it that appeared to be an attempt at humor, it just sounded like real honest hatred.
Yeah I found that kind of shocking too. Sometimes I wonder if the show will soon find itself in trouble. I've never heard Imus say anything remotely as racist as the comments Ant makes every day now.
Death Metal Moe
11-06-2008, 11:52 AM
IBTW did anyone notice today how they dumped what Sal said
No I didn't, sorry. I'm not listening to the show for the rest of the week and if I tune in Monday and hear the same unfunny dogshit I'm giving it 2 weeks.
NYHCmikeX
11-06-2008, 12:08 PM
No I didn't, sorry. I'm not listening to the show for the rest of the week and if I tune in Monday and hear the same unfunny dogshit I'm giving it 2 weeks.
The XM side was good yesterday. And Ant admitted his opinions are just that, and dont mean shit, which makes it easier to stomach. For me at least.
Death Metal Moe
11-06-2008, 12:32 PM
The XM side was good yesterday. And Ant admitted his opinions are just that, and dont mean shit, which makes it easier to stomach. For me at least.
Sorry, but it's not his opinion that bothers me, it's the SAME opinion over and over and over again with no comedy that doesn't make me want to listen.
GreatAmericanZero
11-06-2008, 12:34 PM
Anthony is a 47 year old Italian guinea. I'm sure his views are very realateable to people his age and older
Im from Long Island and I'm more than 20 years younger. I can't relate to anything hes saying though
Like when he went off on a rant "why can't i have a black person at my house and just goof with him like a regular person..like i do with danny? Why do i have to watch what i say?" To me it's like, who hasn't had a black friend that you can say whatever you want in front of? If Anthony has never had a black friend he can be himself around, I don't think i've ever had a time in my life when i didn't have a black friend like that
When Anthony was talking about how white people and black people are just so different culturally that they can't get along like regular people...that is "old man" speak. I just don't think people from younger generations can relate to that thought. Can some black people and some white people not get along? Sure, like with every personality type out there.
so yeah, Anthony is a blowhard, middleaged, over-the-hill man. It happens to everyone eventually and as time goes on, people with his mindset are more and more in the past
angrymissy
11-06-2008, 01:24 PM
Yesterday when someone called in about the dreaded AnthonyObamaTaxRaising, and said "well, what are you gonna do, at least it will also go to schools, roads, infrastructure, etc" and Ant goes "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PAID IN SCHOOL TAXES? PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU'VE EVER MADE IN AN ENTIRE YEAR". It was, to say the least, a big change from teh NEW days.
GreatAmericanZero
11-06-2008, 01:48 PM
Yesterday when someone called in about the dreaded AnthonyObamaTaxRaising, and said "well, what are you gonna do, at least it will also go to schools, roads, infrastructure, etc" and Ant goes "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PAID IN SCHOOL TAXES? PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU'VE EVER MADE IN AN ENTIRE YEAR". It was, to say the least, a big change from teh NEW days.
i'll debate people about alot of issues where i think the WNEW days are overrated, but one thing i can't debate is when people say "I liked anthony on WNEW, he's changed" cuz he absolutely changed
I don't think the newer listeners understand, Anthony's role on the WNEW show was really being the epitome of the "everyday regular guy". Opie was the psychopath and Anthony was the beer drinking observer/impressionist. He really didn't do alot of these "Angry rants" and constant looking down on people that seems to be his act now
These days, Anthony is really an Archie Bunker type curmudgeon. It really was a complete role change
And I'm sure there are people that like "angry, ranting Anthony" better than laid back, regular guy Anthony but the change is something that is definitely apparent.
Death Metal Moe
11-06-2008, 02:58 PM
Yesterday when someone called in about the dreaded AnthonyObamaTaxRaising, and said "well, what are you gonna do, at least it will also go to schools, roads, infrastructure, etc" and Ant goes "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PAID IN SCHOOL TAXES? PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU'VE EVER MADE IN AN ENTIRE YEAR". It was, to say the least, a big change from teh NEW days.
I heard that somewhere too. I mean really, does anyone pay like 30-40K in school taxes? I went to a Catholic High School and I know the full year's tuition is like 8-10K, they're not making each person pay for 4 kid's educations in any district.
More lies.
Or maybe Ant meant we're all low income slobs who don't clear 10 grand a year.
Either way he's annoying to listen to now. I really hope this hasn't ruined the show for me, because the way things are going, it may have.
sailor
11-06-2008, 03:40 PM
I heard that somewhere too. I mean really, does anyone pay like 30-40K in school taxes? I went to a Catholic High School and I know the full year's tuition is like 8-10K, they're not making each person pay for 4 kid's educations in any district.
More lies.
Or maybe Ant meant we're all low income slobs who don't clear 10 grand a year.
Either way he's annoying to listen to now. I really hope this hasn't ruined the show for me, because the way things are going, it may have.
hyperbole?
CofyCrakCocaine
11-06-2008, 03:48 PM
I heard that somewhere too. I mean really, does anyone pay like 30-40K in school taxes? I went to a Catholic High School and I know the full year's tuition is like 8-10K, they're not making each person pay for 4 kid's educations in any district.
More lies.
Or maybe Ant meant we're all low income slobs who don't clear 10 grand a year.
Either way he's annoying to listen to now. I really hope this hasn't ruined the show for me, because the way things are going, it may have.
Exactly how I feel about the show these days myself. I literally haven't listened to more than five minutes of their show this week specifically because of him. I just don't have the patience anymore for his out of touch self-centered arrogant bullshit.
biozombie
11-06-2008, 04:03 PM
Remember the guy who used to shit in a bucket on the job site?
He was awesome. Even more awesome than Awesome Garrett.
*meeeeeeeeemories*
AnnoyedGrunt
11-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Our Anthony was an awesome Anthony.
celery
11-06-2008, 05:18 PM
I heard that somewhere too. I mean really, does anyone pay like 30-40K in school taxes? I went to a Catholic High School and I know the full year's tuition is like 8-10K, they're not making each person pay for 4 kid's educations in any district.
More lies.
Or maybe Ant meant we're all low income slobs who don't clear 10 grand a year.
Either way he's annoying to listen to now. I really hope this hasn't ruined the show for me, because the way things are going, it may have.
hyperbole?
Not at all. I completely agree with him. And today, for the first time, I got the sense that Opie's afraid he's gone over the edge. I think the quote was something like, "You need to stop going to those crazy websites. They're driving you insane."
I've been listening to the show for over 7 years, and it's never been like this before. Ant's honestly not even trying to be funny anymore.
Oh, and I love Ant's claim about how people are buying up all the guns because they're scared Obama's going to take them away. They just can't keep them in stock! Oh, who does he get his information from? The gun store owner. The guy who's trying to sell more guns.
KnoxHarrington
11-06-2008, 05:42 PM
Even if Obama did want to "take away guns" -- and he hardly made gun control central to his campaign, he can't. A Supreme Court decision from earlier this year really gutted the ability of governments to restrict gun ownership.
Here you go, Mr. Cumia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
Even if Obama did want to "take away guns" -- and he hardly made gun control central to his campaign, he can't. A Supreme Court decision from earlier this year really gutted the ability of governments to restrict gun ownership.
Here you go, Mr. Cumia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
Mind you that President-elect is by trade a constitutional lawyer, so he actually respects the rights of individuals to own & possess firearms. Of course, that probably isn't what his gun dealer told him about the brown man.
sailor
11-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Not at all. I completely agree with him. And today, for the first time, I got the sense that Opie's afraid he's gone over the edge. I think the quote was something like, "You need to stop going to those crazy websites. They're driving you insane."
I've been listening to the show for over 7 years, and it's never been like this before. Ant's honestly not even trying to be funny anymore.
Oh, and I love Ant's claim about how people are buying up all the guns because they're scared Obama's going to take them away. They just can't keep them in stock! Oh, who does he get his information from? The gun store owner. The guy who's trying to sell more guns.
hyperbole on ant's part that he pay's more in school taxes than the caller's income.
celery
11-06-2008, 06:05 PM
hyperbole on ant's part that he pay's more in school taxes than the caller's income.
oops, misinterpreted that...
still, a douchy thing for a millionaire to say.
sailor
11-06-2008, 06:07 PM
oops, misinterpreted that...
i was vague.
mikeyboy
11-06-2008, 06:17 PM
i was vague.
and you're still a dirty whore
Death Metal Moe
11-06-2008, 06:18 PM
I've been listening to the show for over 7 years, and it's never been like this before. Ant's honestly not even trying to be funny anymore.
Exactly. I have been listening since like 2001 or something myself. Anthony is an amazing comedic mind. To hear what he has become in the past few months is just awful. He can't let 20 minutes go by without bringing it up again.
Obama has really scared him and just messed with his head. His whole value system was fucked with and he doesn't know how to deal with it.
Well, I know how to deal with it. I'll see O&A on Monday Morning. And if I hear the same garbage, I'll come back another day.
That's not really fair because if they just did the show they always did, I would be entertained but it's all I can do until Ant snaps out of this unfunny, cunty attitude he's had.
sailor
11-06-2008, 06:56 PM
and you're still a dirty whore
you've now been reported.
Marc with a c
11-06-2008, 06:57 PM
and you're still a dirty whore
take it easy buddy. sometimes the unpopular have to take a stand.
GreatAmericanZero
11-07-2008, 04:21 PM
i just put on "are u smarter than a 5th grader" and Gene Simmons is the contestant!
You gotta admit, Anthony shitting on Gene Simmons was funny as hell
I'm laughing my ass off watching this asshole
conman823
11-07-2008, 06:28 PM
Exactly. I have been listening since like 2001 or something myself. Anthony is an amazing comedic mind. To hear what he has become in the past few months is just awful. He can't let 20 minutes go by without bringing it up again.
Obama has really scared him and just messed with his head. His whole value system was fucked with and he doesn't know how to deal with it.
Well, I know how to deal with it. I'll see O&A on Monday Morning. And if I hear the same garbage, I'll come back another day.
That's not really fair because if they just did the show they always did, I would be entertained but it's all I can do until Ant snaps out of this unfunny, cunty attitude he's had.
Well if they were allowed to do the show they USED to do they would be able to have something going on in studio. This is what the "watered down" awful CBS show brings us. Politics is a safe topic, and Opie keeps him going with all his little "It'll be alright Ant"'s.
His whole value system WAS fucked. In his house growing up I'm sure Black People were spoken about with dignity and respect, and I'm sure the scrawny younger Ant had nothing but pleasant experiences with Black People. Its said, and its a dying mentallity.
BUT maybe if you could have ANY of the following we would get a better show: Naked Women, Contest with fans, Contests that are ORIGINAL......you get the picture.
FezsAssistant
11-07-2008, 06:34 PM
Anthony is a 47 year old Italian guinea. I'm sure his views are very realateable to people his age and older
Im from Long Island and I'm more than 20 years younger. I can't relate to anything hes saying though
Like when he went off on a rant "why can't i have a black person at my house and just goof with him like a regular person..like i do with danny? Why do i have to watch what i say?" To me it's like, who hasn't had a black friend that you can say whatever you want in front of? If Anthony has never had a black friend he can be himself around, I don't think i've ever had a time in my life when i didn't have a black friend like that
When Anthony was talking about how white people and black people are just so different culturally that they can't get along like regular people...that is "old man" speak. I just don't think people from younger generations can relate to that thought. Can some black people and some white people not get along? Sure, like with every personality type out there.
so yeah, Anthony is a blowhard, middleaged, over-the-hill man. It happens to everyone eventually and as time goes on, people with his mindset are more and more in the past
How dare Anthony expect equality and no double standards in 2008???
Obviously the man is insane!!!
Take him away, Fairness Doctrine!!! GAZ doesn't agree with him!
Death Metal Moe
11-07-2008, 06:46 PM
Well if they were allowed to do the show they USED to do they would be able to have something going on in studio. This is what the "watered down" awful CBS show brings us. Politics is a safe topic, and Opie keeps him going with all his little "It'll be alright Ant"'s.
His whole value system WAS fucked. In his house growing up I'm sure Black People were spoken about with dignity and respect, and I'm sure the scrawny younger Ant had nothing but pleasant experiences with Black People. Its said, and its a dying mentallity.
BUT maybe if you could have ANY of the following we would get a better show: Naked Women, Contest with fans, Contests that are ORIGINAL......you get the picture.
Naked Women have never and will never equal good radio. The content and language they keep taking away from O&A on the FM side is what sucks over there, but naked chicks on radio suck.
mikeyboy
11-07-2008, 07:04 PM
How dare Anthony expect equality and no double standards in 2008???
Obviously the man is insane!!!
Take him away, Fairness Doctrine!!! GAZ doesn't agree with him!
Ugh. I didn't hear anyone call for him to be taken off the air, or even call him insane (at least not in that post). People are sounding off about something on the show. That is their right.
TheMojoPin
11-07-2008, 07:21 PM
How dare Anthony expect equality and no double standards in 2008???
Obviously the man is insane!!!
Take him away, Fairness Doctrine!!! GAZ doesn't agree with him!
The Fairness Doctrine was never about taking a show off the air, or taking away the airtime of any specific program.
If you're going to rant and sputter, please do it accurately.
TheMojoPin
11-07-2008, 07:23 PM
Well if they were allowed to do the show they USED to do they would be able to have something going on in studio. This is what the "watered down" awful CBS show brings us. Politics is a safe topic, and Opie keeps him going with all his little "It'll be alright Ant"'s.
His whole value system WAS fucked. In his house growing up I'm sure Black People were spoken about with dignity and respect, and I'm sure the scrawny younger Ant had nothing but pleasant experiences with Black People. Its said, and its a dying mentallity.
BUT maybe if you could have ANY of the following we would get a better show: Naked Women, Contest with fans, Contests that are ORIGINAL......you get the picture.
So the only options are contests with fans and naked women...or racist tirades.
celery
11-07-2008, 07:32 PM
For what it's worth, he was much calmer today.
I really think he hit rock bottom with his "black people should thank us for enslaving them, because we brought them to America" rant yesterday. Maybe he heard the replay and realized what a nut he sounded like.
Jughead
11-07-2008, 07:39 PM
I'm so amazed at the educated people here and there great debating quality ..... Until I come to this thread.....Well I guess its just me....He has spelled it out ................................................ON A(COMEDIC) RADIO SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, and the show suffers a little because of it.
I still listen and love it, but the recent rantiness is starting to wear thin. I'm sure it'll pass.
Tenbatsuzen
11-07-2008, 08:22 PM
I heard that somewhere too. I mean really, does anyone pay like 30-40K in school taxes? I went to a Catholic High School and I know the full year's tuition is like 8-10K, they're not making each person pay for 4 kid's educations in any district.
More lies.
Or maybe Ant meant we're all low income slobs who don't clear 10 grand a year.
Either way he's annoying to listen to now. I really hope this hasn't ruined the show for me, because the way things are going, it may have.
If Ant makes 3 million a year, the 28 percent tax bracket puts him at 84 grand in income taxes, and his property taxes, being that he's in a nice section of long island, are probably between 10-20k a year.
conman823
11-07-2008, 08:35 PM
So the only options are contests with fans and naked women...or racist tirades.
No its not the only option, but it becomes a reoccuring bit on the show for lack of anything ELSE to talk about. point was when in THE GOOD OLD WNEW DAYS they were more focused on creating edgy and entertaining contests bits etc. The bullets were taken out of their guns, and now we have "Shock Jock Topical Discussions".
conman823
11-07-2008, 08:37 PM
Maybe Ant should be more afraid of getting the Axe from Mel on the next contract go-round then what color the PEOPLE are in the white house.
Death Metal Moe
11-08-2008, 04:11 AM
I'm so amazed at the educated people here and there great debating quality ..... Until I come to this thread.....Well I guess its just me....He has spelled it out ................................................ON A(COMEDIC) RADIO SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm gonna try to explain this ONE MORE TIME and then I'm done and any O&A fans that want to label me and others as "haters" can try it, because it's all bullshit.
No one is trying to say that Ant doesn't have the right to "spell out" whatever he wants on air. The problem lies with him spelling out THE SAME THING in the THE SAME FASHION for MONTHS now. He was going on those Obama rants for 20 minutes at a clip and I couldn't tell where one ended and the other one began.
A couple weeks ago I got tired of hearing how my white guilt and his celebrity status was going to make me vote for Obama so I chaged to music for a half hour, came back and he was still ranting. I couldn't tell if it was the same rant or a brand new one because he says the same fucking thing over and over and over again.
That is the problem.
I hope he's going to give it up, I'm going to tune in Monday morning on my way to work, if it's the same shit, the radio goes off until Tuesday or Wednesday and I won't be listening to replays until then either.
KrustyKola
11-08-2008, 04:58 AM
I'm gonna try to explain this ONE MORE TIME and then I'm done and any O&A fans that want to label me and others as "haters" can try it, because it's all bullshit.
No one is trying to say that Ant doesn't have the right to "spell out" whatever he wants on air. The problem lies with him spelling out THE SAME THING in the THE SAME FASHION for MONTHS now. He was going on those Obama rants for 20 minutes at a clip and I couldn't tell where one ended and the other one began.
A couple weeks ago I got tired of hearing how my white guilt and his celebrity status was going to make me vote for Obama so I chaged to music for a half hour, came back and he was still ranting. I couldn't tell if it was the same rant or a brand new one because he says the same fucking thing over and over and over again.
That is the problem.
I hope he's going to give it up, I'm going to tune in Monday morning on my way to work, if it's the same shit, the radio goes off until Tuesday or Wednesday and I won't be listening to replays until then either.
Perfectly said, Ant has been boring, repetitive, and wrong. If he were still a tin knocker and was spouting this on a job site over and over again he would be told to shutup or go home. He is a funny guy and a big part of the shows success but he is just right out of his mind when it comes to race. He is the racist dope in the New York hurricane chaser bit from a couple of years ago.
There are too many people that see their taxes only going to welfare and forget that the taxes also pay for the military, the police, the firemen, the roads etc. If I have to listen to this rich guy bitch about his taxes one more time I am going to give Howard a try, I swear I will do it.
I have turned the channel off too as it just not entertaining to hear stupid stuff over and over again. The rant about the Black Panthers was typical, Ant equates a two guys standing at a polling place with nightsticks with the type of pricks that blew up a daycare (and the rest of the federal building in Oklahoma City). When was the last time you heard of the Black Panthers as a danger, thirty, forty years ago? Just crazy. Thank God Jimmie is there to try to keep the conversation based in reality.
Ant can have his opinion, we got it already! Don’t drag the show down cause you can’t stand black people.
brettmojo
11-08-2008, 05:02 AM
For what it's worth, he was much calmer today.
I really think he hit rock bottom with his "black people should thank us for enslaving them, because we brought them to America" rant yesterday. Maybe he heard the replay and realized what a nut he sounded like.
He shouldn't actually come out and say it, but it's true. If it wasn't for you white folks they'd be getting massacred in Botswana right now.
GreatAmericanZero
11-08-2008, 06:00 AM
Ugh. I didn't hear anyone call for him to be taken off the air, or even call him insane (at least not in that post). People are sounding off about something on the show. That is their right.
i think FezAssistant is the guy who wrote that "I bet Ron is proud of you" in the O&A halloween thread. It was followed by a page of a bunch of different posters goof on his over dramatic gay style of writing. He never commented on it
sailor
11-08-2008, 06:03 AM
you're a fool if you don't see how the black panthers could be intimidating to someone. especially when you take the one guy's account into, um, account.
disneyspy
11-08-2008, 06:03 AM
i think FezAssistant is the guy who wrote that "I bet Ron is proud of you" in the O&A halloween thread. It was followed by a page of a bunch of different posters goof on his over dramatic gay style of writing. He never commented on it
i bet fed would be proud of you for shittin on his ass
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DeltaPin
11-08-2008, 06:46 AM
Whether you wamt to admit it or not, everyone is racist to some extent.
celery
11-08-2008, 07:02 AM
He shouldn't actually come out and say it, but it's true. If it wasn't for you white folks they'd be getting massacred in Botswana right now.
I think it's crazy talk to spin it as though we "saved" them when that clearly wasn't the intent.
TheMojoPin
11-08-2008, 07:24 AM
Whether you wamt to admit it or not, everyone is racist to some extent.
Whether or not you want to admit it, saying that over and over again doesn't make it true.
GreatAmericanZero
11-08-2008, 07:34 AM
i know i voted "no" in this thread, but after the Obama reaction i would vote "yes" if i voted again
the question "is everyone racist?"..i don't know if thats true. I think you are racist if you associate negative qualities to a race 100% of the time. I do think that everyone is a little bit prejudiced though, because as humans we are always going to "pre judge" any person or situation based on race, appearance, body language, speech etc.
Charlie_Don't_Surf
11-08-2008, 12:24 PM
you're a fool if you don't see how the black panthers could be intimidating to someone. especially when you take the one guy's account into, um, account.
I find it funny that later that day the story changed. The guy who gave his account was lying no one made a phone call about intimidation.
On a side note it kills me whenever he calls Patrice "my friend" or when he was offended Earl thought he was racist. After hearing stories about his dad I am not even surprised by anything that comes out of Ant's mouth, but I'll keep tuning in for Ope and Jim and tune away when that lunatic begins his racist soliloquies because I truly believe he is trying to convince himself that what he says is true.
KnoxHarrington
11-08-2008, 02:52 PM
I think it's crazy talk to spin it as though we "saved" them when that clearly wasn't the intent.
And it's ignorant of history. Read a little more about the colonization of Africa. Europeans went in there, raped the land of its resources, and treated the natives like shit, giving them no part of the wealth they created, and no say on how they were governed. And then they just left. They just said, "You're independent now, good luck, bros." And they left no infrastructure behind, gave no real assistance to this process. They just let them go.
I mean, this doesn't excuse everything that's going on there -- bullshit like what's going on in Zimbabwe now has as much to do with black corruption as the legacy of colonisation. But these countries came into being already at a disadvantage.
boobieman
11-08-2008, 03:06 PM
I think he is..but that don't make you a bad person.
SEEYEYEYAAAAAAAA
The Ogre
11-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Let's see, Ant's being an ignorant ranting racist dunce, his white trash stepdad says something shady enough to get dumped out of, the callers drop n-bombs left and right, while the legion of mouth breathers at wackbag cry at the prospect of getting the guns they lie about owning taken away by a scary brown president while they post some of the most racist vitriol ever seen on that site.
I think this is the endgame for the O & A show. You can see that Opie and Jimmy are even made uncomfortable by Ant's moronic displays. Maybe it's time for him to fulfill his Long Island garbage dream of being the next Bob Grant. He has the attitude already, and he's only a few years younger. Either that or he can keep going on with this horseshit until the wrong person happens to be listening and they get booted. At this point the show is so unlistenable I wouldn't mind much.
Death Metal Moe
11-08-2008, 10:29 PM
I'm not ready to give up on the O&A show just yet. I'm going to tune in at about 7:45 on my ride to work this Monday morning and we'll see what happens from there.
This is a big reset for me, I've been listening very little for about a week and then not at all the week of the election, with no replay listening this weekend.
I'm just gonna go back to it and see what happens. I hope it's the funny show I liked a few weeks ago without the same rants over and over again.
brettmojo
11-09-2008, 01:41 AM
I think it's crazy talk to spin it as though we "saved" them when that clearly wasn't the intent.
Oh I agree it wasn't the intent at all... But the fact is African's were enslaving and helping the white man with capturing and transporting their brethren. They're were doing it to each other long before the white man even came into the picture. So they came over here, not in the best situation obviously, and helped build a country that they are now pretty much an equal part of... And still now today, they're are murdering and enslaving each other in Africa as we speak, doing pretty much horrific shit that even Hitler didn't do to the Jews. So really, how much of a difference did the white man really make in African history?
So really, how much of a difference did the white man really make in African history?
Look at the map. Those are colonial borders that force rival tribes with centuries-old grudges to live togther: just like in the Ballkans and the Arab world.
TheMojoPin
11-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Oh I agree it wasn't the intent at all... But the fact is African's were enslaving and helping the white man with capturing and transporting their brethren. They're were doing it to each other long before the white man even came into the picture.
Which is a drastic oversimplification. Slavery typically existed in parts of Africa after tribes went to war with each other, and the victorious tribe often enslaved members of the losing tribe. Slaves were often traded between tribes, but the key differences between the African slave system and the European/American trade system is that slaves usually could earn their freedom, and any children the slaves had were born free. This isn't justifying the concept of any kind of slavery, but it's vastly different from "I own you and your entire family and any descendents you have forever, and you're all less than an actual human being both in my eyes and the eyes of the law." When the coastal African tribes initially dealt with European and Arab slade traders, it was under the perception that the foreigners had the same standards of slavery. As time went on, their participation in the foreign slave trade was typically the result of self-preservation in the face of imperial and colonial oppression they didn't have a chance against.
So they came over here, not in the best situation obviously, and helped build a country that they are now pretty much an equal part of... And still now today, they're are murdering and enslaving each other in Africa as we speak, doing pretty much horrific shit that even Hitler didn't do to the Jews. So really, how much of a difference did the white man really make in African history?
Much, much, much worse...very similar to what the Europeans did in the Middle East: making up arbitrary borders that throw together tribes and populations.
mongothetrucker
11-09-2008, 07:14 AM
there was no vote for "absofuckinlutely" so I just said "yes".
Ant's ranting is brutal to listen to. He bitches about his taxes, but then talks about pools, Mustangs and buying guns at a whim.
He should really thank Opie for his golden ticket. The man has talent, but without Opie, he'd still be crawling around in attics knocking tin.
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