The STRANGEST political theory I've ever heard

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

This is from my predominantly Republican boss. I had him explain it twice to me so I think I have it down.

His theory (and God knows where he got it from) is that if we stop buying oil from the Mid-East, they will become bankrupt and mid-east refugees will come to the US to suck on sweet liberty's teat (my vernacular, but not far from my boss' opinion) and THEN suck welfare DRY.

I've been googling this for a week or so and I can't credit this idea from any pundit.

He's also been spewing a lot of other crap, but I don't pay so much attention to it.

[yojimbo7248]

Great thread. My favorite is my dad telling me that Obama and his evil controllers are not coming clean about who his real mother is. In fine Stephen Baldwin fashion, he won't tell me exactly who they claim his mother is but that I should not be fooled by the liberal elite and do some research on my own. I think my dad really would expect to find a 666 on his head and believes his mother is a jackal.

[Yosammity]

Wll, your Dad's theory does sound a little wacky, but there's a kernal of truth in it. No one really wants to completely end our dependence of the Middle East for oil. Oil is obviously their most important asset. If oil is no longer necessary (or is much less necessary), things will begin to destabilize. More war there. More terrorism. Etc.

[Don Stugots]

My mom's theroy on Obama is that after he is in office, he will hold a Muslim country summit here. Once here they will start killing people in the streets and blowing up buildings. We will all die or be taken prisoner while the president laughs and drinks our blood like wine.


Old people are so scared of black people.

[west milly Tom]

Our economy is completely intertwined with that of Saudi Arabia. We will always be somewhat dependent on their oil because so much of our money is invested there. Pick up, "Secrets of the Kingdom" by Gerald Posner, the codepending is staggering. Posner also illustrates how the radical element in Saudi Arabia uses their profits against us. Great read, picked it up off John Stewart's recommendation.

[west milly Tom]

My mom's theroy on Obama is that after he is in office, he will hold a Muslim country summit here. Once here they will start killing people in the streets and blowing up buildings. We will all die or be taken prisoner while the president laughs and drinks our blood like wine.


Old people are so scared of black people.


I got a good one too. My grandmother, whom I love dearly, believes for real that Obama is the antichrist and will turn the presidency into a throne for his one world government where the tribulation would begin.

Interesting side note: she was new jersey's senatorial candidate for Conservative Party 1998

[yojimbo7248]

Our economy is completely intertwined with that of Saudi Arabia. We will always be somewhat dependent on their oil because so much of our money is invested there. Pick up, "Secrets of the Kingdom" by Gerald Posner, the codepending is staggering. Posner also illustrates how the radical element in Saudi Arabia uses their profits against us. Great read, picked it up off John Stewart's recommendation.

Thanks for the book tip. I read "Sleeping with the Devil" by Robert Baer and it covered similar territory.

[Don Stugots]

I got a good one too. My grandmother, whom I love dearly, believes for real that Obama is the antichrist and will turn the presidency into a throne for his one world government where the tribulation would begin.

Interesting side note: she was new jersey's senatorial candidate for Conservative Party 1998


Never have a I heard such crazy stuff from my mom. She was never a racist until she retired and moved to florida.

[LaBoob]

I got a good one too. My grandmother, whom I love dearly, believes for real that Obama is the antichrist and will turn the presidency into a throne for his one world government where the tribulation would begin.

Interesting side note: she was new jersey's senatorial candidate for Conservative Party 1998

Last election, my mother said the world was literally going to end if Kerry was elected. She reiterated "literally" so I said "Literally?" and she said "Yes. Literally." I couldn't believe she was equating Kerry with the end of all time. Literally. She sounded like a nut.

[yojimbo7248]

I don't get these people who are terrified that Obama's presidency marks the end of the world. Ron was right yesterday that Christians really don't believe that they will be treated to paradise after Jesus returns. If they did, they would have been dancing in the streets when Obama was elected. It shows the End of Times are right on schedule. It won't be long before Jesus is gathering his flock as the rest of us are left on earth to be tormented. Maybe I am getting my mythology mixed up, but isn't the plan to have Christians whisked away before the plagues, floods, blood rain, etc.? Congratulations, Christians. You are very close to receiving your eternal reward for believing that a Jew who lived 2000 years was the offspring of a deity.

[Contra]

Yeah I had a guy at work tell me before the election that if we elected obama it was the same as giving him a death sentence because he would definately be asassinated.

[A.J.]

His theory (and God knows where he got it from) is that if we stop buying oil from the Mid-East, they will become bankrupt and mid-east refugees will come to the US to suck on sweet liberty's teat (my vernacular, but not far from my boss' opinion) and THEN suck welfare DRY.

If we stop buying it, the Chinese and Indians will keep sucking it up so don't worry -- we're safe.

On another note, I can't believe how many quotes I've seen in the press here about Obama's Muslim father and/or his Muslim background.

[Don Stugots]

For a country that was founded on freedom of religion we sure do get uppity if someone is from one that is different then ours.

[Fezticle98]

I overheard a young lady in a coffee shop before the election say that there were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. And there was an elaborate coverup to allow him to run for President.

[dino_electropolis]

If we create and alternate source of fuel, thereby strippin these arabs of the only staple of their economy, do you think they would be more or less inclined to bomb us?

[Fezticle98]

If we create and alternate source of fuel, thereby strippin these arabs of the only staple of their economy, do you think they would be more or less inclined to bomb us?

I assume that you think "more likely".

Good point, we should avoid the whole alternative energy thing. Risk the planet and our own economic well-being for the benefit of OPEC. That way we can wage more wars to ensure our access to it continues. Appeasement at all costs!

[JimBeam]

While I do find equating his election with the end of the world to be absurd I find it equally ridiculous to think that his election in any way makes the world a better place.

Sure it ended the idea an outright presumed prejudice in the US but has it really changed anything ?

I'm sure 75% of the 61% of whites that voted for him still wouldn't want him living next door to them and surely wouldn't want them dating their daughters.

I also do think that in some way his life may be in more danger than any president we've had in a while.

I have nothing to base this on but there are a lot of crazies out there so who knows.

[mikeyboy]

I'm sure 75% of the 61% of whites that voted for him still wouldn't want him living next door to them and surely wouldn't want them dating their daughters.

Really? 75%? I'm quite a bit more optimistic than that.

I also do think that in some way his life may be in more danger than any president we've had in a while.

I have nothing to base this on but there are a lot of crazies out there so who knows.

I think you're probably right on that. Obama has garnered an inordinate amount of passion from his supporters and detractors. I have no doubt there are crazies out there who would like nothing more than to do him in.

[JimBeam]

Again I have no numbers to support this but I live/work in an area w/ a lot of white folks that voted for Obama and they haven't exactly curbed their use of sterotypes.

[west milly Tom]

I also heard that bs rumor.

[JimBeam]

The rumor about him being born elsewhere ?

I find it hard to believe that it'd be true because wouldn't it have come out long before this ?

Who possibly would be able to conceal something that big ?

Maybe the party in the White House at the time could attempt something like that but it seems too far fetched to think it could happen otherwise.

[Dougie Brootal]

the korean lady at the liquor store across the street from me subscribes to all these crazy theories about obama. she is quite possibely the most racist person i have ever met. monday night before the election she begged me to vote for mccain cuz i told her i was undecided cuz i didnt want to get into a political discussion with her. she was screaming about him being born in kenya and about his aunt being here illegally and hes gonna kill all the non muslims. its really hard to go in there now but i have to, theyre the only place with 5 different kinds of absinthe in the area.

[Thebazile78]

I don't get these people who are terrified that Obama's presidency marks the end of the world. Ron was right yesterday that Christians really don't believe that they will be treated to paradise after Jesus returns. If they did, they would have been dancing in the streets when Obama was elected. It shows the End of Times are right on schedule. It won't be long before Jesus is gathering his flock as the rest of us are left on earth to be tormented. Maybe I am getting my mythology mixed up, but isn't the plan to have Christians whisked away before the plagues, floods, blood rain, etc.? Congratulations, Christians. You are very close to receiving your eternal reward for believing that a Jew who lived 2000 years was the offspring of a deity.

You're describing "The Rapture" and not every flavor of Christian believes in it.

I was under the impression that only Born-Again and Pentecostal Christians believed in the Rapture, 'cause I sure as heck didn't believe in it, nor did my Protestant (specifically Presbyterian, Lutheran and Methodist) friends from high school and college. There's also a popular series of novels, the Left Behind series, that deals with what happens to the people who are left behind after the Rapture. My aunt was reading them a few years ago; I remember her really enjoying them, so I guess that they are well-written, but I've never picked them up.

Also, I distinctly remember their being a made-for-TV adaptation of them on (I think) USA or TNT or something a few years ago ... but you'd have to IMDB it to be sure.

Incidentally, the weirdest political theory I've heard is something to do with the Communists and the sub-prime mortgage industry collapse. But that wasn't from any of my relatives; it was from my dad's coworkers.

[suggums]

...the Left Behind series...so I guess that they are well-written, but I've never picked them up.


ehhhh, if you enjoy middle school reading level with one-dimensional characters...a friend lent me the first one, i made it through the first couple chapters and that was it. (and i even like junky pulp stuff on occasion)

[high fly]

This is from my predominantly Republican boss. I had him explain it twice to me so I think I have it down.

His theory (and God knows where he got it from) is that if we stop buying oil from the Mid-East, they will become bankrupt and mid-east refugees will come to the US to suck on sweet liberty's teat (my vernacular, but not far from my boss' opinion) and THEN suck welfare DRY.

I've been googling this for a week or so and I can't credit this idea from any pundit.

He's also been spewing a lot of other crap, but I don't pay so much attention to it.



I ain't buying it.
a lot of the wealth is already concentrated over there in a few hands, though they also spend a lot of money spent on social programs as well. A lot of the work is done by labor they import.
If there was going to be a tide of Arabs coming over here, it would have already happened.
Good grief, look at how bad it is in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, but they aren't coming over here in droves, are they?

You've just run into someone with xenophobia and who is desirous to display his ignorance, that's all.

[west milly Tom]

The Rapture is widely accepted by most Christians, including Catholics, and Protestants. It is described in Revelations, which was written by John while he was in exile, right before he was martyred

[spoon]

The Rapture is widely accepted by most Christians, including Catholics, and Protestants. It is described in Revelations, which was written by John while he was in exile, right before he was martyred

wmt is right on this topic. as for ur boss's theory, pure bs.

[Furtherman]

Never mind.

[scottinnj]

I got a good one too. My grandmother, whom I love dearly, believes for real that Obama is the antichrist and will turn the presidency into a throne for his one world government where the tribulation would begin.

Interesting side note: she was new jersey's senatorial candidate for Conservative Party 1998

Except for the candidacy, I'd swear you were my nephew talking about my mom, your grandma.

It's so bad with the old religious kooks one of her freinds burst into tears when Obama won the California electoral votes that pushed him into the winner's circle.

[scottinnj]

Also, I distinctly remember their being a made-for-TV adaptation of them on (I think) USA or TNT or something a few years ago ... but you'd have to IMDB it to be sure.



It's the "Left Behind" Series.

Google Tim and Beverly LaHaye.

Now I have said before I believe in this stuff. So for those in my faith who believe Obama is the Anti-Christ, I told them to go ahead and vote for him, bring on The Tribulation, and we'll all be with Jesus up in Heaven in 7 years after his inauguration.



It just logically makes no sense Obama is the Anti-Christ. But if he is, it's a win win for all evangelicals.

[cougarjake13]

It's the "Left Behind" Series.

Google Tim and Beverly LaHaye.





is that the shit with kirk cameron ???????????/

[epo]

is that the shit with kirk cameron ???????????/

Yup. Quite a heel turn for Mike Seaver isn't it?

[cougarjake13]

Yup. Quite a heel turn for Mike Seaver isn't it?

yeh guess so

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I ain't buying it.
a lot of the wealth is already concentrated over there in a few hands, though they also spend a lot of money spent on social programs as well. A lot of the work is done by labor they import.
If there was going to be a tide of Arabs coming over here, it would have already happened.
Good grief, look at how bad it is in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, but they aren't coming over here in droves, are they?

You've just run into someone with xenophobia and who is desirous to display his ignorance, that's all.
Agree. We seem to forget that we were all pretty much immigrants with crazy wacko ideas that didn't fit in with where ever we fled from too at some point in the past. Our economy has evolved into basically being run as a nationwide payday loan shop anyway so we've pretty much done all this to ourselves anyway.

[Dougie Brootal]

It's the "Left Behind" Series.

Google Tim and Beverly LaHaye.

Now I have said before I believe in this stuff. So for those in my faith who believe Obama is the Anti-Christ, I told them to go ahead and vote for him, bring on The Tribulation, and we'll all be with Jesus up in Heaven in 7 years after his inauguration.



It just logically makes no sense Obama is the Anti-Christ. But if he is, it's a win win for all evangelicals.

at least your cool with it! :laugh:

[Thebazile78]

The Rapture is widely accepted by most Christians, including Catholics, and Protestants. It is described in Revelations, which was written by John while he was in exile, right before he was martyred

I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic grammar school and both of my parents are cradle Catholics, who also taught CCD, and we 100% were NOT taught about The Rapture in the way I understand the Pentecostals, et al, believe.

I also strongly suspect that my very devout, pre-Vatican II family members would disagree about The Rapture being a key tenet, i.e. - people "left behind" on earth, of Catholicism.

We do believe/were taught about a belief in the "resurrection of the body and life everlasting," but that was largely assumed to be a "last judgement" type of thing, and the way I always understood it was that it took place when everybody was dead already. After the final battle of Armageddon.

[Thebazile78]

It's the "Left Behind" Series.

Google Tim and Beverly LaHaye.
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Um, yeah, if you'd actually read my entire post, you would have noted that I mentioned the novels by name.

[TheMojoPin]

Um, yeah, if you'd actually read my entire post

That's just cruel.

[patsopinion]

im watching a movie called "House of sand and fog" the other day
and the entire movie is about this exact concept
very interesting

alice id think youd really like it

[scottinnj]

Um, yeah, if you'd actually read my entire post, you would have noted that I mentioned the novels by name.

SHADDUP

[Recyclerz]

im watching a movie called "House of sand and fog" the other day
and the entire movie is about this exact conceptvery interesting

alice id think youd really like it

It is a really good (if not exactly a feelgood) movie but how is it anything like AFB's boss's crazy geopolitical ranting? Because the family is Iranian?

Pat, you're slipping (further) away from us here. :blink:

[patsopinion]

It is a really good (if not exactly a feelgood) movie but how is it anything like AFB's boss's crazy geopolitical ranting? Because the family is Iranian?

Pat, you're slipping (further) away from us here. :blink:

the movie deals with this exact political ideology
its literally the same theory as the one the boss expressed


The woman is supposto be representitve of our depressed, lazy society
we get our land taken out from under us by persians
bad stuff happens

[Thebazile78]

That's just cruel.

Yeah, well, now that Leona Helmsley is dead, someone had to assume the title of the queen of mean.

Might as well be me.

[scottinnj]

Yeah, well, now that Leona Helmsley is dead, someone had to assume the title of the queen of mean.

Might as well be me.

Nah, you're way too hip for that.

[SP1!]

Never have a I heard such crazy stuff from my mom. She was never a racist until she retired and moved to florida.She was always racist, she just hid it well, my mother did as well but now that she works with a black girl that whines about every thing and misses a lot of work she will let the epithets fly!

Yeah I had a guy at work tell me before the election that if we elected obama it was the same as giving him a death sentence because he would definately be asassinated.That probably true and I fully expect the secret service to stop a few attempts.

I also believe with JB that quite a few of the people who voted for him would not want him living next door to them or dating their daughters, we have a neighbor who had an obama sign in their yard but more than once I have heard them use "lazy N" when talking about one of their vendors. Hell I dont remember the last time I even uttered it under my breath about a bad driver and this guy just feels free to let it fly. I called him on it and he said "hes not that black" people are stupid sometimes.

All that being said, nothing will change, all the corruption will continue and everyone will end up paying more taxes with it being blamed on the bailout and bush.

[patsopinion]

i think it was jfk that said that if someone wanted to kill him badly enough, and were willing to sacrifice their life to do so
then they would probably succeed