Judd Aptow, Kevin Smith, or David Wain? [Archive]

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 02:25 PM

Ok, both of these comedy directors are sharing similiar casts these days (and all work with Elizabeth Banks). Which do you think is the best?

I think David Wain is the most original, creative, unique and brilliant comedic mind of our time and i put him above anyone else. But hes still under the radar (with his mainstream effort of "Role Models" getting great reviews, we'll see what that does)

but anyway, who do ronfez.netters prefer if they wanted to see a comedy this weekend?

WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 02:34 PM

this is the reason that i choose Kevin Smith specifically because he has directed more than two great movies. Clerks, Zack and Miri Make A Porno, Chasing Amy, Dogma ....

David Wain directed Wet Hot American Summer, which was great - but the only other film he directed was Ten, which sucked.

Judd Aptow directed only two movies 40 Year Old Virgin and Knocked Up, which were both funny and original. He really is a producer and writer more than anything else. I have been reading that his new movie, Role Models, is gonna be really good.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 02:43 PM

The Ten ruled

and all of Kevin Smith's internet blog stuff can't hold a candle to "Wainy Days"

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/Wainy_Days/Season_3/24TheWaindow_836.aspx

Marc with a c

11-07-2008, 02:47 PM

i adore david wain, but it is hard to compare his stuff to the catalog of the other two. i'm voting for him anyway. so fuck off.

i'm really looking forward to role models.

WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 02:49 PM

The Ten ruled

and all of Kevin Smith's internet blog stuff can't hold a candle to "Wainy Days"

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/Wainy_Days/Season_3/24TheWaindow_836.aspx

.....we are on two different wave lengths, my friend o' friend.....

torker

11-07-2008, 02:51 PM

They're all overrated.

Marc with a c

11-07-2008, 02:52 PM

They're all overrated.

so is your mom

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 02:54 PM

Well another defense to "The Ten", Paul O. I loved it. So atleast that means the first 15 mins are good!

WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 02:54 PM

so is your mom

awwwwwww shit, SWIM WALK!!!!

torker

11-07-2008, 02:55 PM

so is your mom
You are dead to me.

Marc with a c

11-07-2008, 02:56 PM

Well another defense to "The Ten", Paul O. I loved it. So atleast that means the first 15 mins are good!

not necessarily, it means a fifteen minute block was good.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:00 PM

David Wain kicks ass, but...

I think David Wain is the most original, creative, unique and brilliant comedic mind of our time and i put him above anyone else.

...what?

Miss Stella.

I keep watching that shitty new Superjail cartoon on Adult Swin just for Wain's sassy voice.

Big fans of all 3, but I picked Apatow.

Larry Sanders Show
Freaks & Geeks
Undeclared

Dude was a huge part of all 3 shows, especially the latter two, and that wins it for me.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:01 PM

I keep watching that shitty new Superjail cartoon on Adult Swin just for Wain's sassy voice.

oh man, i heard about that show but i forgot to check it out. Its no good?

torker

11-07-2008, 03:10 PM

I want to vote for Edgar Wright.
http://media.movieweb.com/news/04.2007/edgarWrightHotFuzz.jpg

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:12 PM

oh man, i heard about that show but i forgot to check it out. Its no good?

I'm not sure what it is.

Wain is very good on it, but it's an ordeal to get through. I'm not opposed to movie or TV violence, but it seems like every episode ends up with a drawn out montage of just massive carnage that ends up being kind of, well, exhausting. It's not really funny, but it's not really bad...it's just sort of an ordeal to get through wth David Wain mixed in.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:15 PM

I'm not sure what it is.

Wain is very good on it, but it's an ordeal to get through. I'm not opposed to movie or TV violence, but it seems like every episode ends up with a drawn out montage of just massive carnage that ends up being kind of, well, exhausting. It's not really funny, but it's not really bad...it's just sort of an ordeal to get through wth David Wain mixed in.

i'll check it out. Metalacolypse ends with violence every episode and that show rules!

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:17 PM

i'll check it out. Metalacolypse ends with violence every episode and that show rules!

It does, but Metalocalypse also manages to be really goddamn funny over the course of the episode.

pennington

11-07-2008, 03:19 PM

Here's an interesting Q & A Kevin Smith did with The Star-Ledger:

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2008/10/kevin_smith_qa_porn_and_life_a.html

In it he's specifically asked about Judd Apatow. He gives a very gracious answer:

Q: One thing I have to say is that everybody borrows stuff, but to me, the hyperarticulate, pop-culture-obsessed guy who is still basically romantic and aspires to women way out of his league -- that always seemed like your thing. And now Judd Apatow's made a fortune with it. Do you ever kind of feel like you kind of moved the puck all the way down the ice and then somebody stole it and made your goal?

A: Excellent analogy! But seriously, no, when I saw '40-Year-old Virgin,' I just remember being filled with a sense of childlike wonder that somebody else had made the kind of movie I liked to make. And did it very commercially -- that was huge. I mean, before Judd, if I wanted to make a movie called 'Zack and Miri Make a Porno,' it would have to be a $500,000 budget. But after him, we can have a lot more freedom. You add Seth Rogen to the equation and it makes it even more viable. So I feel like. Thank God, Judd exists. Yeah he did take the puck and score with it. But if I made it the tiniest bit easier for him, he's made it a hell of a lot easier for me.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:22 PM

yeah, even though this thread is putting the 3 against eachother, i'll see any movie with either of the 3's name attatched to it!

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 03:22 PM

I'd lose my Jersey card if I went with anyone other than Smith.

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 03:25 PM

It does, but Metalocalypse also manages to be really goddamn funny over the course of the episode.

I'm an adult swim junkie and for some reason I can't get into Metalocalypse. I really tried too. My personal favorite is Home Movies.
Now that's a poll idea, favorite adult swim show.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:28 PM

I'm an adult swim junkie and for some reason I can't get into Metalocalypse. I really tried too. My personal favorite is Home Movies.
Now that's a poll idea, favorite adult swim show.

i only watch Tim & Eric Awesome show, Aqua Teen and Metalacolypse. Tim & Eric is by far my fav

WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 03:30 PM

yeah, even though this thread is putting the 3 against eachother, i'll see any movie with either of the 3's name attatched to it!

that is something that everyone should agree on.

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 03:33 PM

i only watch Tim & Eric Awesome show, Aqua Teen and Metalacolypse. Tim & Eric is by far my fav

That show is pretty funny. Super gay though. I love the Steve Burle segments.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:33 PM

i only watch Tim & Eric Awesome show, Aqua Teen and Metalacolypse. Tim & Eric is by far my fav

No Venture Bros.?

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:36 PM

No Venture Bros.?

never got into it. Gave it a million chances

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:38 PM

never got into it. Gave it a million chances

You're an odd fella.

WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 03:40 PM

No Venture Bros.?

i like that show more than any other show on AdultSwim.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:45 PM

i like that show more than any other show on AdultSwim.

I think it's one of the best shows on TV, period.

It's funny, talking about what TV Ron watches in another thread, and the Venure Bros. seems like exactly the kinda thing he'd be into except he probably won't give it a chance because it's cartoon.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 03:58 PM

Tim & Eric is my fav...but Tim reminds me sooooooo much of Erock. I always call Tim "eric" cuz he looks exactly like Mr. Eric Nagel. They are twins

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 04:00 PM

Miss Tom Goes to the Mayor. Fuck the haters.

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WampusCrandle

11-07-2008, 04:48 PM

Tim & Eric is my fav...but Tim reminds me sooooooo much of Erock. I always call Tim "eric" cuz he looks exactly like Mr. Eric Nagel. They are twins

i watched one episode and thought i was going to get a seizure or something -you and i are gonna find one show that we like ... one day

fezident

11-07-2008, 04:52 PM

STELLA, THE TEN, and WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER are nothing short of brilliant. I think those three films have more re-watch value than anything by Kevin Smith (who I used to love... then I hated... but, I reeeeally liked ZACK & MIRI.)

Apatow is a force. I love his work. All of it. I love the tone of just about everything he does.
But, David Wain is the shiz. Nothing's funnier than WHAS and THE TEN.

Except ANCHORMAN... which was directed by McKay, not Apatow.

And JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY. Which has nothing to do with this thread but, that's the funniest f'ing movie I own so I thought I mention it. Bitches.

GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 05:00 PM

And JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY. Which has nothing to do with this thread but, that's the funniest f'ing movie I own so I thought I mention it. Bitches.

no one in this thread better NOT insult anything "Johnny Dangerously"

i can't think of a funnier movie scene than when Johnny Dangeriously was breakdancing, but it was so obviously a stunt double, but then it ended with a close up of Michael Keaton's face. That is hilarious!

cougarjake13

11-07-2008, 05:43 PM

smith

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 06:05 PM

I guess I missed something with The Ten. I absolutely loved certain segments, but then others were just horrible. I mean, I enjoyed it, but it's wildly uneven.

WHAS, however, is amazing.

The more I think about this, I don't think Wain belongs in this competition. He is a director, yes, and he is a writer...but Smith and Apatow have really defined their projects with their writing specifically. Wain obviously has his own style and is really goddamn funn, but WHAS, The Ten and Stella are essentially group projects with other members of The State. WHAS is basically a Michael Showalter script directed by Wain. The Ten is basically a Ken Marino script directed by Wain.

At least he has Wainy Days.

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GreatAmericanZero

11-07-2008, 06:07 PM

hey...as long as Marc with a C and Casey Elan voted in the same category as i did...i feel like i'm in the "cool club". can't take that away from me!

Marc with a c

11-07-2008, 06:14 PM

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 06:17 PM

Fallon

11-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Judd Apatow

I saw Zack and Miri today.

Highly disappointed.

TheGameHHH

11-07-2008, 11:05 PM

David Wain kicks ass, but...

...what?

Miss Stella.

I keep watching that shitty new Superjail cartoon on Adult Swin just for Wain's sassy voice.

Big fans of all 3, but I picked Apatow.

Larry Sanders Show
Freaks & Geeks
Undeclared

Dude was a huge part of all 3 shows, especially the latter two, and that wins it for me.

Why pick Apatow if you're gonna talk like Kevin Smith?