Franklin - Can we get him banned or something?

[#1FanofESD]

His BS from the other night was dreadful.

At least Earl is comical. Franklin came off like a bleeding heart racist.

Because a man of color was elected, not that he has actually done anything, but just elected he acts as if America is a good place to live now.

I would not have voted for McCain or Obama. Both are pawns to the political machine.

The fact that we as a country say we hope to one day see 'all people equal' yet we still can't get over the idea of a black man vs a white man in the election is pathethic.

The media and the politicians aren't going to do it for us. We must decide to see the color of a person's skin as an afterthought.

I wish we all had to wear contacts that made us all one fucking color already.

[PapaBear]

What the fuck is a bleeding heart racist?

[Don Stugots]

yes or something.

[ndr]

I thought Franklins call was very sincere -- and of course Ron would make fun of it! (but not really) I'm not the biggest Franklin fan (mostly because of his he-HA laugh that's REALLY uncomfortable) but if anyone doubted the sincerity of emotion be called in with on election night - YOU'RE A DOUCHE! He showed pure emotion and that's okay - unlike ESD who shows his ASS for no reason whatsoever! YOU DECIDE what you'd like to see!:down:

[#1FanofESD]

I thought Franklins call was very sincere -- and of course Ron would make fun of it! (but not really) I'm not the biggest Franklin fan (mostly because of his he-HA laugh that's REALLY uncomfortable) but if anyone doubted the sincerity of emotion be called in with on election night - YOU'RE A DOUCHE! He showed pure emotion and that's okay - unlike ESD who shows his ASS for no reason whatsoever! YOU DECIDE what you'd like to see!:down:

No one ever said it wasn't sincere dick cheese.

That's the point. His sincerity was the pathetic part. And his sincerity would have been turned into hate if Obama would have lost the election and not for the right reasons.

Which would should have been in his mind that the country was getting a man who was going to do a poor job. Instead his hate would have been based on the idea that we as a country couldn't vote in a black president.

He's a douche.

The idea should be that we are happy or not happy after we see what the winner does for the country. Not just happy because the black guy won or lost.

And don't say that wasn't his reason for being so sincere. If it wasn't 100% of the reason it was 96% of it.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Dearest Sir,
Look, I'm reading how you like to talk about America and people forgetting what it's like to be American with their color lenses or something, and yet your thread title is asking how we, the people, can gather together and have someone banned from a radio show for speaking his feelings. I needn't spell it out for you that you're infringing upon certain rights in certain constitutional documents by desiring this. Or that infringing on said rights is symptom of forgetting what it is to be an American. This high level hypocricy renders whatever you have to say moot as far as I and most other people here, are concerned.

Good Day to you Sir, I shall not be reading this thread again.

Signed with Love,
CofyClownCuntaine

[PapaBear]

I still want to know what a bleeding heart racist is.

[paracetamol flanders]

I still want to know what a bleeding heart racist is.


A Grand Cyclops with a bullet hole in the chest.

[foodcourtdruide]

His BS from the other night was dreadful.

At least Earl is comical. Franklin came off like a bleeding heart racist.

Because a man of color was elected, not that he has actually done anything, but just elected he acts as if America is a good place to live now.

I would not have voted for McCain or Obama. Both are pawns to the political machine.

The fact that we as a country say we hope to one day see 'all people equal' yet we still can't get over the idea of a black man vs a white man in the election is pathethic.

The media and the politicians aren't going to do it for us. We must decide to see the color of a person's skin as an afterthought.

I wish we all had to wear contacts that made us all one fucking color already.

You do realize that for the majority of this countries existance people that looked like Earl and Franklyn were the victims of great racism and oppression, right? You do see at least the symbolic significance in Obama's victory, right?

[boosterp]

You do realize that for the majority of this countries existance people that looked like Earl and Franklyn were the victims of great racism and oppression, right? You do see at least the symbolic significance in Obama's victory, right?

While that is true, and while Franklin has every right as any of us do to call the show; my family was not even in the US until the 20th century. That is both sides, I am 3rd generation on one side and 4th on the other. Thus, why should I have to hear arguments on how people where oppressed when my own Lutheran families left Germany and Austria to escape the world wars or else be forced into war or work factories to produce war machines? While this is not the equivalent to enslaving another, you do the research and check for me how many blacks in this country are actually decedents of slaves. Hell, Obama's father comes from another nation, where's the connection there?

We too helped make this country great, hell 3 generations on each side served the military.

Edit to add that my grandmother's father left Scotland to escape poverty.

[PapaBear]

He's black. He lives in America. He has experienced racism. You know your heritage. He knows his. LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR FUCKING EMOTIONS ABOUT SHIT!!!



BTW... He still sounded like a pussy. But that's another issue.

[GreatAmericanZero]

No one ever said it wasn't sincere dick cheese.

That's the point. His sincerity was the pathetic part. And his sincerity would have been turned into hate if Obama would have lost the election and not for the right reasons.

Which would should have been in his mind that the country was getting a man who was going to do a poor job. Instead his hate would have been based on the idea that we as a country couldn't vote in a black president.

He's a douche.

The idea should be that we are happy or not happy after we see what the winner does for the country. Not just happy because the black guy won or lost.

And don't say that wasn't his reason for being so sincere. If it wasn't 100% of the reason it was 96% of it.

whats a "sincere dick cheese"?




anyway, no i don't think someone should be banned from a show for expressing an opinion that 1 guy on a messageboard disagreed with. I actually would have that opinion on anyone on the air

[Foster]

do the mods have the power to ban people from the show?
if so, where do i submit an application?

[TheMojoPin]

Ah, yes, the usual reverse logic of a white guy declaring everything to be equal and blacks have to stop acknowledging that they're black RIGHT now or else it's not fair.

[realmenhatelife]

It's not at all racist to be happy that a black guy was voted president, or unreasonable that it would be a profound event for a guy like Franklin. We, as a nation, are not demanding that all people are treated equally. Racism is very real and those people are not going to abandon their racism because its silly. However, their children will have a harder time growing up and adopting that racism if there is a very public and very positive black figure for them to see, like Obama. No one is ever going to get comfortable with race by just ignoring it.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Norton used this expression with Anthony

but after Obama won, i don't understand the "See-Saw" of happiness which means because a lot of black people are happy, some white people feel like they have to be miserable. it has nothing to do with eachother!

[AnnoyedGrunt]

So long as we're tailoring the cast of a radio show to make each listener happy, can we add AJ Dynamite to the banned list?

[yojimbo7248]

I don't understand why there are so many white Americans being cynical pricks about blacks being happy about the Obama election. Everything I read and hear says that the Obama election is hugely significant to them. Why not be pleased that we as a nation are making progress on white-black relations? Read some quotes from older black people who never imagined they would see a black president. How can you deny that these are genuine, valid feelings? The day after the election I was standing in line for coffee with an older black woman here in Ft. Greene. A group of black school kids walked by chanting "Obama" and the woman was really moved. She said she has never felt so hopeful for her community since young black men have such a great role model and sense of possibility. Of course, Obama will deal with huge problems and will make mistakes. But why not just be happy for the black community and for our nation for a moment?

[whiskyriver]

I thought Franklin was Cuban.

[underdog]

Earl is comical?

[GreatAmericanZero]

I don't understand why there are so many white Americans being cynical pricks about blacks being happy about the Obama election. Everything I read and hear says that the Obama election is hugely significant to them. Why not be pleased that we as a nation are making progress on white-black relations? Read some quotes from older black people who never imagined they would see a black president. How can you deny that these are genuine, valid feelings? The day after the election I was standing in line for coffee with an older black woman here in Ft. Greene. A group of black school kids walked by chanting "Obama" and the woman was really moved. She said she has never felt so hopeful for her community since young black men have such a great role model and sense of possibility. Of course, Obama will deal with huge problems and will make mistakes. But why not just be happy for the black community and for our nation for a moment?

and even more incentive, this will never happen again. A black president is elected again, no one will act like this. Probably talk about the "first black" anything is over with. If the proudness of the black community is too intense for some people, they should just let it run its course...because it will probably never inconvenience you again

[KatPw]

I thought Bill Clinton was our first black President.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

doesn't blood flow in to hearts

aren't we all Bleeding Hearts

[Bay Ridge Tim]

It's pretty terrific that we've elected a black president.

I love how white people think racism works. Hundreds of years of racism in America, but once white people declare that it's over, we're not supposed to talk about it.

[TheMojoPin]

It's pretty terrific that we've elected a black president.

I love how white people think racism works. Hundreds of years of racism in America, but once white people declare that it's over, we're not supposed to talk about it.

Exactly. It's so goofy. Though I guess when you're so used to being The Man, one thinks they can declare when everything is "fixed" and that makes it so.

[TheMojoPin]

and even more incentive, this will never happen again. A black president is elected again, no one will act like this. Probably talk about the "first black" anything is over with. If the proudness of the black community is too intense for some people, they should just let it run its course...because it will probably never inconvenience you again

No way, we have to do it every time a minority gets elected prez...and don't forget the women!

Being a white guy in this country is so freakin' tough.

[GreatAmericanZero]

No way, we have to do it every time a minority gets elected prez...and don't forget the women!

Being a white guy in this country is so freakin' tough.

yeah theres probably going to be a celebration for the first hispanic president...maybe some Lillth Fair type thing for a woman...but Norton was saying how its really all "Black & White" and some of these other minorities are cute but its not the one with the BIG history.

And to people that are so annoyed that black people are proud of america, all they have to do is sweat it out for probably a month or two and then people wont even mention it anymore.

[epo]

Being a white guy in this country is so freakin' tough.

The barriers and stereotypes we've had to overcome have been difficult. Its amazing that some of us have been able to achieve, despite society clearly being gerrymandered against us.

[Serpico1103]

While that is true, and while Franklin has every right as any of us do to call the show; my family was not even in the US until the 20th century. That is both sides, I am 3rd generation on one side and 4th on the other. Thus, why should I have to hear arguments on how people where oppressed when my own Lutheran families left Germany and Austria to escape the world wars or else be forced into war or work factories to produce war machines? While this is not the equivalent to enslaving another, you do the research and check for me how many blacks in this country are actually decedents of slaves. Hell, Obama's father comes from another nation, where's the connection there?
We too helped make this country great, hell 3 generations on each side served the military.
Edit to add that my grandmother's father left Scotland to escape poverty.

All Americans benefit from slavery. Without it our nation would not be the powerful world player it is today. So, yes every citizen black or white owes a debt to slaves for their forced contribution.
You are correct, to compare being "forced to work in a factory" is so far removed from slavery it is ludicrous to even mention. How many Germans and Austrians died while being transported to the factory? I think the estimates are 10 to 20 million Africans died while being transported across the Atlantic. That alone is a horror that could only be equaled by the Nazis or Stalin. But, the suffering did not end with the journey.
Yes, slavery is over. But, the racism and huge socio-economic gap that it left have not been adequately dealt with. Electing Obama is a huge step for this nation. Just as emancipation, desegregation, voting rights were. However, the journey is not over, it may never be completely fixed, but it is nice to see we are moving closer to equality.

[foodcourtdruide]

While that is true, and while Franklin has every right as any of us do to call the show; my family was not even in the US until the 20th century. That is both sides, I am 3rd generation on one side and 4th on the other. Thus, why should I have to hear arguments on how people where oppressed when my own Lutheran families left Germany and Austria to escape the world wars or else be forced into war or work factories to produce war machines? While this is not the equivalent to enslaving another, you do the research and check for me how many blacks in this country are actually decedents of slaves. Hell, Obama's father comes from another nation, where's the connection there?

We too helped make this country great, hell 3 generations on each side served the military.

Edit to add that my grandmother's father left Scotland to escape poverty.

Almost every ethnicity on the planet has been enslaved at some point in history. My ancestary is sicilian, a small island a stones throw away from Rome, Greece and the coast of Africa. Empires took turns bitch-slapping us. However, this isn't about the LITERAL connection to slavery. This is about a socio-economic gap that has existed (and still exists) in this country being destroyed. The Anthony Cumia school of thought says that black people (and people in general) live in poverty because they are lazy and violent by nature, however, that's clearly not true and the reasons for someone living in poverty and committing violent crimes are much more complex than that. Black people are digging themselves up out of being completely disenfranchised by a large segment of white America. Things have been drastically changing, but it's not done yet and the damage is still there. White people can't just say, "OK RACISM IS OVER, LETS TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE", it's not up for us to say that.

[Serpico1103]

But, I wouldn't mind banning Franklyn for other reasons.

[furie]

I would not have voted for McCain or Obama.

does that mean that you can not vote?

[damainer]

What the fuck is a bleeding heart racist?

??????

[drjoek]

do the mods have the power to ban people from the show?
if so, where do i submit an application?

Only the real top Mods can

Not the guys like jauble who Mods Food and Drink or the chick who Mods fitness She can't ban people from the show.
I hope Dave never gets on Mikeyboys bad side. LOOK out!

[ChimneyFish]

And don't say that wasn't his reason for being so sincere. If it wasn't 100% of the reason it was 96% of it.

Feels more like a buck three eighty.

[Contra]

Racism may be over, but the reverse racism is still a bitch!

[Serpico1103]

Racism may be over, but the reverse racism is still a bitch!

Yes, it must be tough competing with blacks for the cashier position at McDonald's.

[RoseBlood]

What the fuck is a bleeding heart racist?

I still want to know what a bleeding heart racist is.


Inquisitive PapaBear = Funny :laugh:

[damainer]

Who else is going to make those great videos.......

[Foster]

Who else is going to make those great videos.......

sam from o&a?

[Serpico1103]

Who else is going to make those great videos.......

I am sure a 10th grade A/V student could hit record on a camcorder

[PapaBear]

What the fuck is a bleeding heart racist?

??????
He still hasn't told us.

[Westley]

hes more boreing then earl

[Serpico1103]

hes more boreing then earl

Flea?

[moochcassidy]

He still hasn't told us.

Do you really not understand what it means or are you trying to bait him?

I suppose reverse racist is close...but i wouldnt give it the negative connotations of this guy.

On the other hand, an attitude like franklyn and earl's of legitimized empowerment is kind of new in america.

Im just surprised that anyone would base their sense of self-worth on who the dude in the white house is.


This thread is class. nobody knows how to get their heads round this. fun isnt it?

[PapaBear]

Do you really not understand what it means or are you trying to bait him?

I suppose 'reverse racist' is close...but i wouldnt give it the negative connotations of this guy.

On the other hand, an attitude like franklyn and earl's of legitimized empowerment is kind of new in america.

Im just surprised that anyone would base their sense of self-worth on who the dude in the white house is.


This thread is class. nobody knows how to get their heads round this. fun its it?
I understand that he was trying to call him a reverse racist, though there's no such thing. What people call "reverse racists" are racists. My question is about adding "bleeding heart" to "racist". Bleeding heart annotates "caring". Racist does not.

[moochcassidy]

I understand that he was trying to call him a reverse racist, though there's no such thing. What people call "reverse racists" are racists. My question is about adding "bleeding heart" to "racist". Bleeding heart annotates "caring". Racist does not.

i think he was using 'bleeding heart' to mean 'liberal (but in an insulting way)

and 'racist' not as a 'hates someone primarily on race' but 'judges someone primarily on race'

the dude has a point..but hes being a dick about it

[Serpico1103]

I understand that he was trying to call him a reverse racist, though there's no such thing. What people call "reverse racists" are racists. My question is about adding "bleeding heart" to "racist". Bleeding heart annotates "caring". Racist does not.
Maybe a hypocrite racist? They decry racism, but then practice it themselves. So, they care about racism directed at them, but not their own racist beliefs?

Like Ron mentioned, asses cry when their favorite sports team wins, why shouldn't the presidential election evoke more of a reaction.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Reading Norton's book, maybe first black Director to win an Oscar might get a "first black.." notice

but after that one, thats gotta be everything!

[spainlinx0]

I always thought Frankin said he wasn't black but Cuban. Then when Obama wins he's crying about his black heritage. He is the ultimate bandwagon jumper.

First the Giants, then the Rays, now Obama. Give me a break already with this guy.

[Hottub]

I always thought Frankin said he wasn't black but Cuban. Then when Obama wins he's crying about his black heritage. He is the ultimate bandwagon jumper.

First the Giants, then the Rays, now Obama. Give me a break already with this guy.

You should go back and read what you posted. Really not very bright.

[spainlinx0]

You should go back and read what you posted. Really not very bright.

How so?

[spainlinx0]

I'm trying to say that Franklin always seems to want to be part of the "winning" team. I'm not saying there is a "black" team. I'm saying that we all remember him all of a sudden being a Giants fan when they were winning. Then he's sporting his Ray hawk out of nowhere because suddenly he has a cousin on the team. Then I don't remember him saying much about Obama, but then he's getting elected President and Franklin is crying about his persecution, when he's not black. Or wait now he is saying he's black?

[Serpico1103]

I believe Franklyn has stated that he is Irish, Black, Cuban, and Native American.

[Hottub]

What does being Cuban have to do with being black?

[underdog]

I understand that he was trying to call him a reverse racist, though there's no such thing. What people call "reverse racists" are racists. My question is about adding "bleeding heart" to "racist". Bleeding heart annotates "caring". Racist does not.

I'm guess he's talking about the pretty common liberal racists. Massachusetts is filled with them. He just used bleeding heart to make it insulting. They are the type of people who denounce racism in public but wouldn't want a black person anywhere in their town.

[led37zep]

What does being Cuban have to do with being black?

Duh...

Cuban Black Bean Soup
This is really yummy--not piquant, but full of flavors and textures with a lemony bite. It's pretty to look at too, especially in flat white soup plates, with the white of egg and yellow of lemon and yolk contrasting so beautifully with the dark beans. Serve hot to 6 as a meal with salad, Cuban bread, and dry or medium sherry.

* 1 pound dried black beans
* 10 cups water
* 1/4 pound salt pork or country ham
* 2 cloves garlic, finely minced
* 1 teaspoon cumin
* 1 teaspoon oregano
* 1/2 teaspoon dry mustard
* 2 Tablespoons olive oil
* 2 cups onion, finely chopped
* 1 green pepper, chopped
* juice of 1/2 lemon
* salt and pepper to taste

Garnish: 6 slices of lemon and 2 hard boiled eggs, chopped

Soak beans overnight in lots of water. Discard water (to avoid flatulence), then bring 10 cups fresh water to a boil and pour in soaked beans and salt pork or ham. Reduce heat and simmer, partially covered, until nearly tender, about 1-2 hours.

Pound the garlic, cumin, oregano, and mustard together until well blended.

Heat the oil in a saucepan, then sauté the onion and green pepper, stirring, until wilted. Add the spice paste and stir for a minute. Pour in the lemon juice and 1/2 cup of the bean liquid. Cover and simmer 15 minutes. Stir into the beans and simmer for another hour, partially covered.

When ready to serve, pureé 2 cups of the beans, then stir back into the pot. Remove the salt pork (if you've used ham, chop it in small pieces and return to the pot). Ladle soup into bowls and garnish each with chopped egg and a slice of lemon.

[Serpico1103]

Duh...

Cuban Black Bean Soup
This is really yummy--not piquant.

By Cuban Black Bean, do you mean Franklyn?
By Soup, do you mean his hot semen?

[moochcassidy]

I believe Franklyn has stated that he is Irish, Black, Cuban, and Native American.

Well..to tell a family secret, his grandmother was a Dutch

[spainlinx0]

What does being Cuban have to do with being black?

What are you talking about. I'm saying I thought Franklin WASN'T black. Therefore I thought it was weird he was getting so teary-eyed and talking about how he feels so proud for this country now about a black president.

[RaysFever]

I thought Franklins call was very sincere -- and of course Ron would make fun of it! (but not really) I'm not the biggest Franklin fan (mostly because of his he-HA laugh that's REALLY uncomfortable) but if anyone doubted the sincerity of emotion be called in with on election night - YOU'RE A DOUCHE! He showed pure emotion and that's okay - unlike ESD who shows his ASS for no reason whatsoever! YOU DECIDE what you'd like to see!:down:

OK - I decide EAST SIDE DAVE!!! Thanks for putting it up to me, no more Franklyn! He's TERRIBLE on the air.

[Flea_Man]

Franklyn rules. And my mom thinks his voice is sexy.

[RaysFever]

He's black. He lives in America. He has experienced racism. You know your heritage. He knows his. LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR FUCKING EMOTIONS ABOUT SHIT!!!



BTW... He still sounded like a pussy. But that's another issue.

If I'm not mistaken, Franklyn said on the show that he doesn't consider himself black - he's Cuban, Puerto Rican, African American, Irish, ...........

He said from his own mouth he doesn't consider himself black - unless I'm misremembering the exact quote.

In my own opinion, people try too hard to make themselves a part of things. Not to say that Obama wasn't the better candidate, but I think that people got so caught up in 'being a part of history' that no one cared who the better candidate was. And, now, people want to relate to it, no matter how or why.

Either way, I don't like Franklyn, but it has nothing to do with his ridiculous calls after the election :tongue:

[RaysFever]

You should go back and read what you posted. Really not very bright.

Sorry, I didn't see this until I had posted, but the quote you are shitting on is accurate. I remember him saying this on the air. Franklyn made the distinction on the air.

[RaysFever]

I believe Franklyn has stated that he is Irish, Black, Cuban, and Native American.

DAMNIT - I really should read the entire thread before I post...my bad. I didn't know you had already posted this. Not trying to steal...

But you are right! And i'm glad I didn't misremember!

[RaysFever]

Franklyn rules. And my mom thinks his voice is sexy.

I'll bet there is a lot that Flea Man's mom thinks is sexy, but it would be in poor taste to start listing them.

[RaysFever]

Dearest Sir,
Look, I'm reading how you like to talk about America and people forgetting what it's like to be American with their color lenses or something, and yet your thread title is asking how we, the people, can gather together and have someone banned from a radio show for speaking his feelings. I needn't spell it out for you that you're infringing upon certain rights in certain constitutional documents by desiring this. Or that infringing on said rights is symptom of forgetting what it is to be an American. This high level hypocricy renders whatever you have to say moot as far as I and most other people here, are concerned.

Good Day to you Sir, I shall not be reading this thread again.

Signed with Love,
CofyClownCuntaine



Is it really a Constitutional right to be on Ron and Fez? I guess that explains how AJ Dynamite and Tommy Z got on. How can I exercise my Constitutional right and be on the radio?