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El Mudo
11-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Polish PM to be exhumed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7720293.stm)

Gen Wladyslaw Sikorski will be exhumed as part of a inquiry to decide whether his death in a plane crash in Gibraltar in 1943 was an accident or murder.

A British investigation ruled that it was an accident, but some historians in Poland believe Gen Sikorski died as a result of foul play.

In July 1943, the Liberator aircraft he was travelling on together with two British MPs, crashed into the sea just seconds after it took off from Gibraltar.

A British investigation at the time found the plane's controls had jammed. But a separate Polish investigation did not rule out he may been murdered.

The general's death has produced several colourful conspiracy theories despite a lack of evidence.

At the time Gen Sikorski had demanded an investigation into allegations that Poland's then ally, the former Soviet Union, had massacred more than 20,000 Polish officers in the forests of Katyn three years earlier.




Sikorski was in essence, the Polish version of De Gaulle because of his stance as the uniter of the Polish Communist/Anti Communist factions. If he doesn't die, the Warsaw Uprising doesn't become the absolute disaster and tragedy it does, and the Russians don't sit on the other side of the Vistula and watch the Germans wipe the place off the face of the earth. And perhaps Poland doesn't go Communist (much in the way France was able to hold on through De Gaulle).

In any event, this won't change much about what happened, but it could shed light on a LOT of terrible things the Russians did during the war that don't really get much attention and more importantly, shed more light on the horrors of the war that occurred in Poland

topless_mike
11-10-2008, 10:21 AM
as much as i believe in "history fortells the future"...


why bother?

we have no reason to like russia to begin with. this wont change our outlook towards them.

brettmojo
11-10-2008, 10:27 AM
as much as i believe in "history fortells the future"...


why bother?

we have no reason to like russia to begin with. .
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/anna-kournikova-picture-3.jpg

El Mudo
11-10-2008, 10:28 AM
I would say its worth it for all the people that died terribly as a result of this man's death, and their families to finally have some answers as to why things happened the way they did. Maybe it brings new light to how terrible the Polish had it during the war since something like 11 million people died there during the war, and its something that never really gets brought up for whatever reason.

Outside of the Jews, I don't think ANYONE suffered as badly in the war as Poland and her people, between the death camps, the massacre of Polish civillians by the Germans AND the Russians, and the complete elimination of East Prussia, which consigned millions and millions of ethnic Germans to their deaths through wanton massacre, robbery and rape

topless_mike
11-10-2008, 10:34 AM
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/anna-kournikova-picture-3.jpg

?
who is that.

weekapaugjz
11-10-2008, 10:34 AM
Great post mudo. Always enjoy your posts on history.

razorboy
11-10-2008, 10:42 AM
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who is that.

Anna Kournikova. I'm more of a Maria Sharapova man, myself.

Fezticle98
11-10-2008, 11:02 AM
My verdict...death by blunt force trauma.


Caused by...BAD Babysitting!

pennington
11-10-2008, 03:06 PM
I'm not sure what they think they will find. If his plane was sabotaged, what's an autopsy going to prove?

A.J.
11-10-2008, 10:21 PM
Gen Wladyslaw Sikorski will be exhumed as part of a inquiry to decide whether his death in a plane crash in Gibraltar in 1943 was an accident or murder.

"It was MURDAHHH!"

http://blog.pennlive.com/pennsyltucky/2007/12/Quincy.jpg

foodcourtdruide
11-10-2008, 10:47 PM
I'm not sure what they think they will find. If his plane was sabotaged, what's an autopsy going to prove?

I was thinking the same exact thing. What's the point of exuming his body?

Doogie
11-10-2008, 11:10 PM
No one can be surprised at the Russian brutality in history...during the space race, the Russians used to rig the re-entry programs with an explosive in case they thought about trying to land their Vostok capsules in a western country. The capsule was brought back on an automatic program (which was heavily fought by US astronauts), and in case the pilot needed to override he entered a 6 digit code. The pilot had three of the numbers and the other three would be told to him in case of an emergency.

Hence why I am not surprised one bit at this story.

jauble
11-11-2008, 12:50 AM
My verdict...death by blunt force trauma.


Caused by...BAD Babysitting!

This deserved more credit than it got.