Zach DeLarocha is full of shit.

[ahhdurr]

We just went through 8 years of extreme right wing government and I haven't heard his name once except when he made news by making a death threat comment against GWB.

Where was his rage for the past 8 years?

RATM = Marketing gimmick

poser loser fuckface.

[PanterA]

come on, he had a hell of alot of money to spend.

[Contra]

I thought he just cared about central American politics

[NYHCmikeX]

Where was his rage for the past 8 years?

Making mediocre music and calling it Audioslave...

[mikeyboy]

Making mediocre music and calling it Audioslave...

I thought he was the one who wasn't in Audioslave.

[NYHCmikeX]

I thought he was the one who wasn't in Audioslave.

Ooooooh yeah. I suck. Maybe he was in Cuba for 8 years then.

[RAAMONE]

I thought he was the one who wasn't in Audioslave.

Audioslave = Rage Against The Machine - Zach DeLarocha + Chris Cornell

[yojimbo7248]

RATM toured in Europe over the summer. They got back together for Coachella in 2007.

[S.D.B.P.]

I thought he just cared about central American politics

he has been spending his non-music time as a lobbyist for Indian rights in south/ central america.

[donnie_darko]

its funny how people bad mouth people they don't know shit about.

at least do a google search before proving your ignorance.

i'm just glad he gave up on his horrible rap career.

[badorties]

its funny how people bad mouth people they don't know shit about.

at least do a google search before proving your ignorance.

i'm just glad he gave up on his horrible rap career.

i was a huge rage fan, and thought it was really odd for them to disappear during the bush years ... it seems they would've been an ideal voice of opposition (rather than the dixie chicks)

now for them to come back 7/8 years later, their meaning seems less relevant -- but that could also be me older (my politics haven't changed, though)

zach was close to being the new axl with his hip hop record ... years of just rumours and scrapped producers

[ahhdurr]

its funny how people bad mouth people they don't know shit about.

at least do a google search before proving your ignorance.

i'm just glad he gave up on his horrible rap career.

I figured he was doing something. I don't think he's just sitting on his ass. But the point is this... his outrage was probably more of a youthful exuberance than political conviction.

I did a search on him - I'm not finding much. He used to rail against the assimilation of culture and the tyranny of supposedly free institutions and the subversion of democratic principles. All of which went turbo for eight years now.

It seems to me if you're commited to something like this and have all that heat behind you and you drop off the face of the earth - it was bullshit.

[tele7]

John Denver is full of shit too

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/1246/10691373.JPG

[S.D.B.P.]

I figured he was doing something. I don't think he's just sitting on his ass. But the point is this... his outrage was probably more of a youthful exuberance than political conviction.

I did a search on him - I'm not finding much. He used to rail against the assimilation of culture and the tyranny of supposedly free institutions and the subversion of democratic principles. All of which went turbo for eight years now.

It seems to me if you're commited to something like this and have all that heat behind you and you drop off the face of the earth - it was bullshit.

A big part of his lyrics were geared towards hispanic/ hispanic indian concerns. He pursued this cause which was specific to him and his heritage as opposed to attempting to fix these overwhelmingly large problems.

[ahhdurr]

A big part of his lyrics were geared towards hispanic/ hispanic indian concerns. He pursued this cause which was specific to him and his heritage as opposed to attempting to fix these overwhelmingly large problems.

ok - that I buy.

I admit being antagonistic.

I think he's a go getter - he's likely come down off his teenage self righteous phase and learned that he's one of many, change is slow and more often than not - you can only do your small part.

[Tallman388]

A few years before Rage broke up there was an article in Rolling Stone that basically said Zach was some sort of hypocrite. The big example I remember was that he had railed against Big Tobacco and all of their evils while smoking a pack of Camels during an interview.
I always got the feeling that Zach was more of the mouthpiece while Morello was more of the activist.

[ahhdurr]

John Denver is full of shit too

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/1246/10691373.JPG

John Denver was a great man!
(teehe:lol:)

[fezident]

Audioslave = Rage Against The Machine - Zach DeLarocha + Chris Cornell

This is fun!
New GnR = old GnR - Slash - Duff - Izzy + Buckethead -Sorum - Clarke - Buckethead + Axl

[ahhdurr]

This is fun!
New GnR = old GnR - Slash - Duff - Izzy + Buckethead -Sorum - Clarke - Buckethead + Axl

Velvet Revolver = STP - the DiLeo brothers and their drummer(??) + GNR - (axl + all their drummers+ dizzy and izzy)

[ahhdurr]

A few years before Rage broke up there was an article in Rolling Stone that basically said Zach was some sort of hypocrite. The big example I remember was that he had railed against Big Tobacco and all of their evils while smoking a pack of Camels during an interview.
I always got the feeling that Zach was more of the mouthpiece while Morello was more of the activist.

Morello was the Harvard grad and I assume was more learned on the subjects they railed against.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Didn't they play a free concert outside of the Republican Convention in L.A. this summer

[Dan 'Hampton]

Didn't they play a free concert outside of the Republican Convention in L.A. this summer

That would be tough considering it was in Minneapolis this year.

[Freakshow]

Morello was the Harvard grad and I assume was more learned on the subjects they railed against.

It's pronounced Lernd.

Didn't we just elect Tom Morello president? Harvard-educated, half-Kenyan, multi-racial american from Illinois???

[foodcourtdruide]

Say what you will about the band, they put on one of the best live shows I've ever seen.

[K.C.]

We just went through 8 years of extreme right wing government and I haven't heard his name once except when he made news by making a death threat comment against GWB.

Where was his rage for the past 8 years?

RATM = Marketing gimmick

poser loser fuckface.


They don't give a fuck.

They complained about fair wage and racism and could not have cared any less about anything beyond that.

Rage was basically a younger, hipper version of Ralph Nader (which makes sense for why they rallied for him in 2000).

Nader sounds like a broken record because all he talks about is corporate influence in politics.

It's not that he's wrong...it's that there's more shit that needs to be discussed than just that.

And it's the same with Rage...it's not that the issues they advocated weren't worthy causes ...it's that the way they talk about them is just retarded.

And it's just laughable to hear people like de la Rocha bitch about how people in the Bush administration should be tried 'similar to the Nazis at Nuremberg.'

Hey asshole, maybe you should have thought about that during the 'there's no difference between Bush and Gore' bullshit people like you pushed all through 2000.

It's that type of sentiment, that the choice didn't matter, that put the guy in power in the first place.

There's ALWAYS a difference...it's just when it comes to unreasonable people, they're not going to see it.

[FezsAssistant]

I enjoy RATM's music. Good stuff, in my opinion.

[Devo37]

i thought this was gonna be about Rage's Concert Rider (http://http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/rage/rage1.html).

hopefully Zach enjoys his Dom Perignon and Veuve Cliquot champagne as The Man is oppressing him. douche.

[underdog]

Zach has been around. He's in a new band called One Day As A Lion, which had one of the best songs out over the summer. It's Zach and some guy formally from The Mars Volta. They put out a pretty good EP.

[TheMojoPin]

Wish some of his solo stuff had been released. The dude worked with DJ Shadow, El-P, Muggs, Dan The Automator, Roni Size, DJ Premier AND ?uestlove!!! There's gotta be som amazing music laying around with all of those guys working on trakcs, even if it is just quality production.

The only thing that came out of it was "March of Death" with DJ Shadow, which came out in 2003 just before the Iraq invasion. Zach aside, any DJ Shadow is OK by me.

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[The Ogre]

I tend to ignore everything DeLarocha did after quitting Inside Out.

[Dirtbag]

I tend to ignore everything DeLarocha did.Fixed.

[dino_electropolis]

Used to love Rage....

Saw them at woodstock 99 and they displayed the American Flag right-side up (as opposed to all their other shows where it would be hung upside down).

I remember thinking, wow, these guys put their politics aside for one day to give a lil respect to the country that made all Woodstock-like festivals possible.

At the end of the set, flag goes up in flames.


Since then, i've said Fuck 'em.

[TheMojoPin]

I remember thinking, wow, these guys put their politics aside for one day to give a lil respect to the country that made all Woodstock-like festivals possible.

Guess we need to tell all of those giant European music festivals over the last few decades that they don't count.

[JerseySean]

I try to seperate politics and music. This guy has crossed lines before. He's a spoiled suburbanite from CA who supports the Zapatistas. Hes a punk and irrelevent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

[dino_electropolis]

Guess we need to tell all of those giant European music festivals over the last few decades that they don't count.

Uhm, just those giant rock festivals that existed in Europe BEFORE the original Woodstock.......

Oh, wait, there werent any....because giant ROCK festivals started here in AMERICA.


Which was exactly my point.
:tongue:

[SP1!]

I was gonna post the concert rider but I see devo beat me to it, I remember other people saying how they were dicks to deal with and too demanding. I guess communism doesnt really work our very well for the filthy rich, huh tom?

[SP1!]

I try to seperate politics and music. This guy has crossed lines before. He's a spoiled suburbanite from CA who supports the Zapatistas. Hes a punk and irrelevent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

Yeah thats always been my point, hes full of shit and does not have a clue about what hes talking about most of the time but he has a mic so people believe him.

[TheMojoPin]

Uhm, just those giant rock festivals that existed in Europe BEFORE the original Woodstock.......

Oh, wait, there werent any....because giant ROCK festivals started here in AMERICA.


Which was exactly my point.
:tongue:

Your point was that America somehow made/makes it possible for musical festivals to exist.

Besides, Monterey came before Woodstock.

[TheMojoPin]

I try to seperate politics and music. This guy has crossed lines before. He's a spoiled suburbanite from CA who supports the Zapatistas. Hes a punk and irrelevent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

Yeah, those damn Zapatistas. They oppose the hopelessly corrupt and ineffectual Mexican government that essentially exists as an American lapdog. BASTARDS.

Oh, that's right. Socialism is scary, blah-blah-blah.

[dino_electropolis]

Your point was that America somehow made/makes it possible for musical festivals to exist.

Besides, Monterey came before Woodstock.

WOW, you really miss a point, and then just argue for, well.....i dunno why.


I suppose you will try to argue that Rock n Roll is not an American creation (which, if you follow it logically, made it possible for Rock festivals to exist)

Of course you will.


Whatever, i'm over it.

[underdog]

Hes a punk and irrelevent.

Did you just call him a "punk" as an insult, Blowhard?

[TheMojoPin]

WOW, you really miss a point, and then just argue for, well.....i dunno why.


I suppose you will try to argue that Rock n Roll is not an American creation (which, if you follow it logically, made it possible for Rock festivals to exist)

Of course you will.


Whatever, i'm over it.

Nah, it just seems kinda random and goofy to say that America somehow makes music festivals possible. You were tying it in to flag burning and politics, which made it sound like the usual "America makes these freedoms possible" sorta deal...but then it was about who had the first big rock fesitval, which doesn't seem to have anything to do with the politics of the people on stage (especially since the big rock festivals were all about the political causes of the day and of the acts performing).

I dunno, it was kinda confusing.

[Slumbag]

Zach has been around. He's in a new band called One Day As A Lion, which had one of the best songs out over the summer. It's Zach and some guy formally from The Mars Volta. They put out a pretty good EP.

I gotta agree, One Day as a Lion is pretty awesome.

But the dude just does buzz words now. Like "Revolutionary.........Elite...........Struggle.... .........Freedom".
It's all just phony nonsense.

[mikeyboy]

I'm just gonna add this:

http://talesofanintrovert.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fuck_yeah.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

I gotta agree, One Day as a Lion is pretty awesome.

But the dude just does buzz words now. Like "Revolutionary.........Elite...........Struggle.... .........Freedom".
It's all just phony nonsense.

Well, that's what it's always been.

At the end of the day a band is just a band.

[dino_electropolis]

Nah, it just seems kinda random and goofy to say that America somehow makes music festivals possible. You were tying it in to flag burning and politics, which made it sound like the usual "America makes these freedoms possible" sorta deal...but then it was about who had the first big rock fesitval, which doesn't seem to have anything to do with the politics of the people on stage (especially since the big rock festivals were all about the political causes of the day and of the acts performing).

I dunno, it was kinda confusing.

Fair enough.

But, c'mon....Rock Festival in Nazi Germany(Poland, France, etc), or a Fascist Italy, or in Muslim Brickblakistan?????


America DOES (DID?) make these freedoms possible on a global scale.....just look at the entire planet 40 years ago....we WERE those trailblazers....yes, other countries have equaled, and in some instances surpassed our freedoms, but if not for us, no dice.

(and i recognize the irony in that freedoms allow flag burning, and blah blah....but it wouldve been nice to give the country some props, if just once)

[TheMojoPin]

Fair enough.

But, c'mon....Rock Festival in Nazi Germany(Poland, France, etc), or a Fascist Italy, or in Muslim Brickblakistan?????


America DOES (DID?) make these freedoms possible on a global scale.....just look at the entire planet 40 years ago....we WERE those trailblazers....yes, other countries have equaled, and in some instances surpassed our freedoms, but if not for us, no dice.

(and i recognize the irony in that freedoms allow flag burning, and blah blah....but it wouldve been nice to give the country some props, if just once)

I guess, but do we really want that from a band who is defined by being the opposite of that sorta stuff? That would be a pretty big cop-out.

I guess you could argue they're celebrating how cool this country can be by doing what they do.

I'm kinda curious what was going on 40 years ago that made us "trailblazers."

[Doogie]

I'm just gonna add this:

http://talesofanintrovert.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fuck_yeah.jpg

Ohhh, thats a Mossberg 5000!!! I have one of those. Great for skeet shooting.

[SP1!]

Yeah, those damn Zapatistas. They oppose the hopelessly corrupt and ineffectual Mexican government that essentially exists as an American lapdog. BASTARDS.

Oh, that's right. Socialism is scary, blah-blah-blah.

Yes socialism is great, everyone pulls their weight, what bullshit.


These people are just pissed cause their ancestors didnt have to foresight to buy the right property or make the right connections, fuck them.

[TheMojoPin]

These people are just pissed cause their ancestors didnt have to foresight to buy the right property or make the right connections, fuck them.

I can only assume if you had lived in our revolutionary period you would have been a proud Tory.

[fezident]

Gee, our old LaSalle ran great.

[ahhdurr]

I try to seperate politics and music. This guy has crossed lines before. He's a spoiled suburbanite from CA who supports the Zapatistas. Hes a punk and irrelevent.


Shoe vendors?

Always a pretty radical bunch come to think of it.

[moochcassidy]

i wasnt paying attention to what was said but i did see his name associated with some political activist bullshit over the years