Kanye West is a humble guy...

[El Mudo]

"I'm the voice of this generation" (http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/15348921)

Kanye West is to music what Michael Jordan was to basketball — at least that's what West thinks, in his humble estimation.

"I realize that my place and position in history is that I will go down as the voice of this generation, of this decade, I will be the loudest voice," he said in an interview on Wednesday. "It's me settling into that position of just really accepting that it's one thing to say you want to do it and it's another thing to really end up being like Michael Jordan."

The Grammy-winning rapper-producer said Justin Timberlake had a chance to be music's MVP, but hasn't put out enough material. (Timberlake's last album was in 2006, while West released a CD last year and is releasing his latest — "808s and Heartbreak" — on Nov. 24.)

"There were people who had the potential to do it but they went on vacation, so when Justin went on vacation I made albums," he said. "And it just came out to be that."

I actually kinda dug his first album, but haven't bought anything or wanted to notice anything he's done since then.

It does bring up a discussion piece though...who actually IS the voice "this generation", which I would define as anyone from the ages of 23-30?

[Freakshow]

George Bush doesn't care about Black Puppets?

[reillyluck]

Kanye West Is Garbage.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm 27 and I HONESTLY cannot name one song of his. The only popular music I hear is stuff they play at the gym on Z100. And EVERY SINGLE TIME I'm there I hear one of the following songs once:

- Some stupid song that goes "When I arrive, I bring the fire", which is just godawful.
- The I kissed a girl song (No one cares that a song with nearly identical lyrics came out about 10 years ago).
- The Pink song where for some reason she wants to fight people.

It's amazing that in the span of an hour, for the past 4 months these songs ALWAYS play. It's like Z100 has a 5 song playlist that lasts 6 months.

[foodcourtdruide]

Wait, did he sing the song with the word Suicide in it? Cause if that was him I heard that.

[reillyluck]

and if anyone says "jesus walks" is an amazing song im gonna punch you.

[ChrisTheCop]

Jesus walks is an amazing song.






(I'm a sadomasochist)

[reillyluck]

Jesus walks is an amazing song.






(I'm a sadomasochist)

cant wait to see you!!!! :wink:

[ChrisTheCop]

cant wait to see you!!!! :wink:

Cant wait to get you as my secret santa.

[west milly Tom]

and if anyone says "jesus walks" is an amazing song im gonna punch you.

Jesus walks is amazing. :)

[reillyluck]

Jesus walks is amazing. :)

yousonofabitch!!!!!!!!! :furious: :happy:

[west milly Tom]

How bout when that asshat forgot the words to his own song on SNL

[NYHCmikeX]

He does that "Flashing lights" song that was in GTA4 and on the commercial for new Nip/Tuck season, but he is an over rated rapper and an awful person and I hope he chokes.

[donnie_darko]

i thought it was an act, but he is serious.

and the voice for this generation is obviously obama, for now..
and i know he's not 23-30, but from the polling apparently 90% of that age group supported him.

[TheMojoPin]

Kanye fucking rules.

Chicago is taking over the world, bitches.

And yes, "Jesus Walks" kicks ass.

I love it when musical acts shit talk. They need to do it more often. Being humble is boring.

[Furtherman]

May Zombie Evel Knievel eat his soul.

[WampusCrandle]

i saw him at Madison Square Garden .... TWICE


he was great both times...and i laughed when he pretended to cry about his dead mom...both times he did it

[Marc with a c]

jesus walks is amazing.

reilly you are an asshole.

[west milly Tom]

yousonofabitch!!!!!!!!! :furious: :happy:

See I told you.

[biozombie]

Haha, I don't even know what "Jesus Walks" is. A song? An Album? A group that this Kanye West guy is a part of?

<-----loves being blissfully unaware of today's pop culture.

[TheMojoPin]

Haha, I don't even know what "Jesus Walks" is. A song? An Album? A group that this Kanye West guy is a part of?

<-----loves being blissfully unaware of today's pop culture.

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[TheMojoPin]

Really...if you claim to love hip-hop but then also claim that Kanye hasn't put out even just ONE song that made you say, "now THAT is some hip-hop," I'm sorry, you do not love hip-hop.

Chicago hip-hop rules. Kanye, Rhymefest, Lupe Fiasco, Common, Capital D, the Molemen...ITS HAWT.

[WampusCrandle]

and if anyone says "jesus walks" is an amazing song im gonna punch you.

my dad is quite out of synch with "pop culture" and he calls Kanye West, and now every rapper, "Black Jesus"

[reillyluck]

Really...if you claim to love hip-hop but then also claim that Kanye hasn't put out even just ONE song that made you say, "now THAT is some hip-hop," I'm sorry, you do not love hip-hop.

Chicago hip-hop rules. Kanye, Rhymefest, Lupe Fiasco, Common, Capital D, the Molemen...ITS HAWT.

see here's the thing....Kanye is garbage, not necessarily the music, theres a HUGE difference. you cant possibly questions someones passion for hip hop because they think that he's not only a self centered asshole, but mainly because he isnt as great as he claims, IMO of course.

Chicago definitely has had its share of incredible talent and future talent to come, but lets not forget people i've grew up to. Run DMC, Eric B & Rakim, Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Brand Nubian, Pete Rock & CL smooth all NYC rappers who i think is the real hip hop, just to name a few.

[TheMojoPin]

see here's the thing....Kanye is garbage, not necessarily the music, theres a HUGE difference. you cant possibly questions someones passion for hip hop because they think that he's not only a self centered asshole, but mainly because he isnt as great as he claims, IMO of course.

Of course he's not as "great" as he claims...but who cares? He's a complete asshole...but what difference does it make? The man is basically the only hip-hop artist consistently on the charts who is actually putting out GOOD hip-hop and not the thin, Casio-sounding dirty nursery rhymes it seems like everyone else is doing.

Chicago definitely has had its share of incredible talent and future talent to come, but lets not forget people i've grew up to. Run DMC, Eric B & Rakim, Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Brand Nubian, Pete Rock & CL smooth all NYC rappers who i think is the real hip hop, just to name a few.

I'm not knocking New York at all. That's where the music came from. I'm just pointing out how my city finally has some quality names blowing up nationwide when we didn't before.

[reillyluck]

Of course he's not as "great" as he claims...but who cares? He's a complete asshole...but what difference does it make? The man is basically the only hip-hop artist consistently on the charts who is actually putting out GOOD hip-hop and not the thin, Casio-sounding dirty nursery rhymes it seems like everyone else is doing.



I'm not knocking New York at all. That's where the music came from. I'm just pointing out how my city finally has some quality names blowing up nationwide when we didn't before.

miss good hip hop.

but i know you werent knocking NY, i was just throwing out some examples of my love for hip hop.

[Reephdweller]

see here's the thing....Kanye is garbage, not necessarily the music, theres a HUGE difference. you cant possibly questions someones passion for hip hop because they think that he's not only a self centered asshole, but mainly because he isnt as great as he claims, IMO of course.

Chicago definitely has had its share of incredible talent and future talent to come, but lets not forget people i've grew up to. Run DMC, Eric B & Rakim, Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Brand Nubian, Pete Rock & CL smooth all NYC rappers who i think is the real hip hop, just to name a few.


I reminisce...I reminisce...

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[TheMojoPin]

miss good hip hop.

but i know you werent knocking NY, i was just throwing out some examples of my love for hip hop.

I hear ya.

That's actually why I like Kanye...he has a more dense, creatively sampled production and actually atempts some kind of narrative with a lot of his lyrics. Sure, a lot of it is flighty, but so was a lot of NYC stuff.

[TheMojoPin]

I reminisce...I reminisce...

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[Reephdweller]

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[Freakshow]

Really...if you claim to love hip-hop but then also claim that Kanye hasn't put out even just ONE song that made you say, "now THAT is some hip-hop," I'm sorry, you do not love hip-hop.

Chicago hip-hop rules. Kanye, Rhymefest, Lupe Fiasco, Common, Capital D, the Molemen...ITS HAWT.

There is no escape from the lair of the molemen...



http://www.lolsauce.com/RandomBS/Hans%20Moleman.jpg

[Contra]

I didn't hear too much of his first two albums, but Graduation is fucking awsome. You'd probably dig my blog about it mojo.

[SP1!]

Kanye West Is Garbage.

Bingo, most people have never heard of him.

[grlNIN]

What a joke this guy is.

He has been an arrogant piece of shit from day 1.



Also, i think Mojo needs to just rape Chicago and move on from his obsession with it.

[drusilla]

What a joke this guy is.

He has been an arrogant piece of shit from day 1.



^^^

[TheMojoPin]

Also, i think Mojo needs to just rape Chicago and move on from his obsession with it.

One makes slow, sweet love to a woman this fine.

Who wants humble entertainers? Insane arrogance is hilarious.

[grlNIN]

So gross.

[jennysmurf]

If the music is good enough, I can overlook douchiness in an entertainer. Kanye's music is not good enough. I can't stand him!:thumbdown:

[joeyballsack]

There is still some good hip hop out there.

Q-Tips new CD "The Renaissance" is pretty solid from start to finish. I was a fan of his when he was in Tribe Called Quest though so maybe I am biased.

Kanye is definitely the mouthpiece for middle class black kids but I don't know about a whole generation.

[TheMojoPin]

There is still some good hip hop out there.

Q-Tips new CD "The Renaissance" is pretty solid from start to finish. I was a fan of his when he was in Tribe Called Quest though so maybe I am biased.

Forget solid...it's amazing. All that's missing is Phife and it's a classic Tribe album.

[joeyballsack]

Forget solid...it's amazing. All that's missing is Phife and it's a classic Tribe album.

Its impossible to listen to without realizing your bobbing your head with the music. Kanye could learn a few things from him on this one.

I love that whole Tribe, De La Soul period of hip hop.

[joethebartender]

He did have the sense to hire Zach Galafiniakis to do his vdeo... so I have no problem with the man.

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[El Mudo]

This is old, but it makes me laugh (http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/?em3106=193659_-1__0_~0_-1_5_2008_0_0)

Yo, anybody that's not a fan; don't come to my show. For what?! To try and throw ya'll two cents in? Ya'll rated my album shitty and now ya'll come to the show and give it a B+. What's a B+ mean? I'm an extremist. It's either pass or fail! A+ or F-! You know what, fuck you and the whole fucking staff!!! I know I shouldn't dignify this with a comment, but the reviewer threw a jab at all the artists. I just wanna know when was the last time you enjoyed yourself. If you can't have fun and lose yourself at this tour it's a good chance you're a very miserable person. I actually feel sorry for you guys. Your job forces you to not have fun anymore. Grab a drink, holla at some nice girls, and party bitch!! You don't know shit about passion and art. You'll never gain credibility at this rate. You're fucking trash! I make art. You can't rate this. I'm a real person. I'm not a pop star. I don't care about anything but making great art. Never come 2 one of my shows ever again, you're not invited and if you see me...BOW!! This is not pop, it's pop art!


:lol::lol::lol:

[K.C.]

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[foodcourtdruide]

Its impossible to listen to without realizing your bobbing your head with the music. Kanye could learn a few things from him on this one.

I love that whole Tribe, De La Soul period of hip hop.

Don't forget Pharcyde!

[Contra]

And fushnikins! When I think about it, kanye is the voice of this generation, because most of them act like whiny, smug, spoiled little bitches just like he does.

[Kevin]

Kanye fucking rules.

Chicago is taking over the world, bitches.

And yes, "Jesus Walks" kicks ass.

I love it when musical acts shit talk. They need to do it more often. Being humble is boring.

Kanye is awesome

As for Chicago taking over..

President: Chi town
Sec State: Chi town

Chi sports teams: Suck ass

I say its about even

[helterskeletor]

I'm not defending the guy, but I really don't like the tone of these articles. They've been out to paint Kanye a certain way for a long time, and it just seems too directed to be real. I'm sure all of these famous assholes say arrogant shit all the time, but the media has this storyline with Kanye.

Ah fuck it, this came out right before his album. Way to bite, ham-and-eggers!

[TonyStark]

One makes slow, sweet love to a woman this fine.

Who wants humble entertainers? Insane arrogance is hilarious.

In addition to all those above, SoulStice is quite good as well, if we're talking Chicago rappers.

[helterskeletor]

Forget solid...it's amazing. All that's missing is Phife and it's a classic Tribe album.

I'm not really feeling it yet. I will say that you have to see the man live no matter what. He puts on a surprisingly good live show, totally different than his laid back vibe on the recordings. "Tribe Called Quest fan from day one!"

[K.C.]

http://dlisted.com/files/colbertisasuccess.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/The_Wizard_of_Covington/6_22_bush_mission_banner.jpg




Who's the voice of this generation, now!!!


Bitch!

[Gmann]

[QUOTE=TheMojoPin;1956136]Of course he's not as "great" as he claims...but who cares? He's a complete asshole...but what difference does it make? The man is basically the only hip-hop artist consistently on the charts who is actually putting out GOOD hip-hop and not the thin, Casio-sounding dirty nursery rhymes it seems like everyone else is doing.

[QUOTE]


I gotta go with Mojo on this one. Kanye is consistently putting out music and albums that are original in sound and style, and I don't even like Hip-hop.



And Jesus Walks is a really good song. :devil2:

[PD]

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Who's the voice of this generation, now!!!


Bitch!
I loved Colbert doing this mission.

after all, if you can't believe Al Roker....

[Slumbag]

I won't comment on him personally, but this girl at work burned me 808s.
It's a solid album. I'm not even really a hip hop fan, but I'm enjoying the shit outta this album.

[Hottub]

So, is Kanye officially a douchebag now? I'll vote yes.
I can't see anybody defending him or justifying his actions last night.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/104370/original.jpg

[TheGameHHH]

So, is Kanye officially a douchebag now? I'll vote yes.
I can't see anybody defending him or justifying his actions last night.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/104370/original.jpg

Right, until two months from now when he puts out a new song and we all love it

[IamFogHat]

Muthahfuckin' gay fish.

[fezident]

Kanye West... does not care... about white peopoo.

[mikeyboy]

So, is Kanye officially a douchebag now? I'll vote yes.
I can't see anybody defending him or justifying his actions last night.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/104370/original.jpg

It wasn't even original.

That happy-go-lucky R.E.M. ditty "Everybody Hurts" took home four awards, including Moonmen for Breakthrough Video and Best Director. While the band attempted to accept the latter trophy, Nathaniel Hornblower (aka Adam Yauch of the Beastie Boys) stormed the stage proclaiming Spike Jonze should have won for directing the Beasties' "Sabotage." In addition to screaming, "This is an outrage! This is a farce," he also claimed that he had the original idea for Star Wars. (http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/1994/)

[Hottub]

So Jerry Lehane was in the Beastie Boys?

[instrument]

i made it to the middle of kanye's haircut, what do i win?

[Gmann]

i made it to the middle of kanye's haircut, what do i win?

Reminded me of Anthony Mason for some reason.

[pennington]

So, is Kanye officially a douchebag now? I'll vote yes.


You are correct, sir!

[mikeyboy]

So Jerry Lehane was in the Beastie Boys?

:laugh:

[ScottFromGA]

i made it to the middle of kanye's haircut, what do i win?

this made me giggle so much.

[metaregina]

Muthahfuckin' gay fish.

He's a fish, yo.


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[JimBeam]

That whole VMA thing was wierd for me.

I hate Taylor Swift as an artist because her music is awful and I think she dresses like a retard.

I hate Beyonce Knowles because I think she thinks her sh*t doesn't stink and I just don't get it. Plus she's an awful actress.

I'm indifferent to Kanye West but I guess if I put all of his silly outbursts together I think he's a loser.

But now I have to feel bad for Swift because what did happen to her was awkward/mean.

I have to give credit to Beyonce for giving up her time and recognizing Swift.

I did like reading Pink's opinion on West. She was all over him.

Even that doofus Donald Trump is sounding off on West.

What I do find wierd about the whole VMAs thing is that Swift one for " Best Female Video " but then Beyonce later won for " Best Video ".

How do you lose the best video by a female, when you are a female, yet win the overall best video regardless of gender ?

[zildjian361]

Pink said it best he's a piece of shit, fuck that nigga

[El Mudo]

It wasn't even original.

That happy-go-lucky R.E.M. ditty "Everybody Hurts" took home four awards, including Moonmen for Breakthrough Video and Best Director. While the band attempted to accept the latter trophy, Nathaniel Hornblower (aka Adam Yauch of the Beastie Boys) stormed the stage proclaiming Spike Jonze should have won for directing the Beasties' "Sabotage." In addition to screaming, "This is an outrage! This is a farce," he also claimed that he had the original idea for Star Wars. (http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/1994/)


Ironically, "Sabotage" just got a VMA this year under a new category for "Video That Should Have Won A Moonman"

[JimBeam]

Ironically, "Sabotage" just got a VMA this year under a new category for "Video That Should Have Won A Moonman"

What other videos were up for this ?

[TheMojoPin]

Kanye is the best. Few of our pop culture stars put this much effort into entertaining us.

[Kevin]

Kanye is the best. Few of our pop culture stars put this much effort into entertaining us.

Would you like him if he wasn't from Chicargo?

Yes Chicargo...

[TheMojoPin]

Would you like him if he wasn't from Chicargo?

Yes Chicargo...

I don't see why I wouldn't.

That last album was pretty ass-y, but the first two are some great hip-hop. The third's not too bad. Plus he's produced a ton of great tracks for other artists.

[SP1!]

I think kayne has proved hes a bitch only looking for attention, fuck that little faggot.

[Reynolds]

Obama says Kanye is a "jackass"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/obama-kanye-is-a-jackass_n_286623.html



During a CNBC interview on Monday, President Obama called hip-hop artist Kanye West a "jackass" over his behavior at the MTV Video Music Awards. (Watch video of Kanye at the VMAs here.)

Obama's colorful remark was actually made in an off-the-record portion of the interview that was tweeted -- and then deleted -- by ABC News reporter Terry Moran.

"Pres. Obama just called Kanye West a 'jackass' for his outburst at VMAs when Taylor Swift won. Now THAT'S presidential," Moran wrote.

Politico's Michael Calderone has ABC's statement apologizing for Moran's journalistic breach.

[TooLowBrow]

Obama says Kanye is a "jackass"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/obama-kanye-is-a-jackass_n_286623.html

he was a jackass

[SP1!]

I don't see why I wouldn't.

That last album was pretty ass-y, but the first two are some great hip-hop. The third's not too bad. Plus he's stolen a ton of great tracks for other artists.

Fixed

Kayne doesnt have an original bone in his body, without him stealing other DJ's beats he would be a nobody.

[SP1!]

Obama says Kanye is a "jackass"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/obama-kanye-is-a-jackass_n_286623.html

If its true then its quite possibly the only topic on which I have agreed with obama

[TheMojoPin]

Fixed

Kayne doesnt have an original bone in his body, without him stealing other DJ's beats he would be a nobody.

Whut.

[SP1!]

Whut.

I didnt stutter, hes an unoriginal douche

[mikeyboy]

Hip Hop began and ended with Chunky A.

[SP1!]

Hip Hop began and ended with Chunky A.

mikeyboy knows whats up

[TheMojoPin]

I didnt stutter, hes an unoriginal douche

Whut.

[TheMojoPin]

Hip Hop began and ended with Chunky A.

http://www.coffeebreakradio.com/images/2LiveJews.jpg

[newport king]

taylor swift reminds me of a baby deer when they're first born all lanky and awkward like. and has trouble standing.

[SP1!]

Whut.

His biggest hit is just stolen from actual musicians who got most of the money from the song. Thats a fact, all he did was talk over it like a shitty drunk karaoke singer.

[TheMojoPin]

His biggest hit is just stolen from actual musicians who got most of the money from the song. Thats a fact, all he did was talk over it like a shitty drunk karaoke singer.

Something tells me you're not a fan of the hippety-hop.

[TheMojoPin]

taylor swift reminds me of a baby deer when they're first born all lanky and awkward like. and has trouble standing.

So what you're saying is she would be delicious if made into a steak?

[SP1!]

Something tells me you're not a fan of the hippety-hop.

I used to be a huge fan of hip hop, now all they do is steal songs rap over them then pass it off as their own (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stronger_%28Kanye_West_song%29).

I like how it says "sample" that is basically their song with him rapping over it, thats as bad as any will smith song

[SP1!]

So what you're saying is she would be delicious if made into a steak?

Like you wouldnt eat her........

[Marc with a c]

I like how it says "sample" that is basically their song with him rapping over it, thats as bad as any will smith song

slow that roll son.

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[underdog]

I used to be a huge fan of hip hop, now all they do is steal songs rap over them then pass it off as their own (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stronger_%28Kanye_West_song%29).

I like how it says "sample" that is basically their song with him rapping over it, thats as bad as any will smith song

What rap did you listen to that didn't use samples?

Did you used to listen to rap the same way you used to be a democrat?

[SP1!]

slow that roll son.

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Exactly, just like the ring my bell song, the songwriter and singer were told they were given a small fee to use a little sample of her song but then the song came out and it was just him rapping over her entire song.

This is why hip hop sucks, well at least main stream hip hop

[SP1!]

What rap did you listen to that didn't use samples?

Did you used to listen to rap the same way you used to be a democrat?

I was never a democrat, I think I said I would have voted for clinton in 92 once but that has long passed, I have a distrust of all politicians in general.

My rap collection would put little jimmy and his kangol hat to shame.

[underdog]

My rap collection would put little jimmy and his kangol hat to shame.

Again, what rap did you listen to that didn't use samples?

[SP1!]

Again, what rap did you listen to that didn't use samples?

I have no problem with the use of samples, so called hip hop acts like kayne, diddy, and will smith just use whole songs then take the lyrics out and rap over them.

Thats not sampling, thats just stealing.

[underdog]

I have no problem with the use of samples, so called hip hop acts like kayne, diddy, and will smith just use whole songs then take the lyrics out and rap over them.

Thats not sampling, thats just stealing.

I don't think you've ever listened to a hip-hop album.

Especially if you're using Will Smith as an example of hip-hop.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't think you've ever listened to a hip-hop album.

Especially if you're using Will Smith as an example of hip-hop.

And if he thinks that's all West does.

[Marc with a c]

Especially if you're using Will Smith as an example of hip-hop.

hey. what the fuck?

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[SP1!]

I don't think you've ever listened to a hip-hop album.

Especially if you're using Will Smith as an example of hip-hop.

And if he thinks that's all West does.
Yes because your knowledge of a musical genre is always better, trust me, even though you think differently I have more knowledge and a broader collection of rap than you ever dreamed of. I own no will smith albums but his talent level is the same as kayne and diddy, kayne markets himself better and diddy had other business ventures. None of them were very good musicians but all of them are great marketers.

hey. what the fuck?

Kool Moe Dee should have beat the fuck out of smith for that shit.

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Oh I forgot, Toby Keith should have to pay Kool for that song title because you know he stole that as well, every country club down here has dance, rap played in between the bands

[TheMojoPin]

Yes because your knowledge of a musical genre is always better, trust me, even though you think differently I have more knowledge and a broader collection of rap than you ever dreamed of.

GET OUT OF MY APARTMENT!!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Kool Moe Dee should have beat the fuck out of smith for that shit.

Or he could have just not signed off on it.

OHHHHHHHHHHH, SORRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[SP1!]

Or he could have just not signed off on it.

OHHHHHHHHHHH, SORRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Or co-starred in the video, huh? Sometimes money makes you swallow your pride, still doesnt change the fact that most rap today is stolen and kayne is a good example of that.

[SP1!]

LOL old sir mix a lot cracked me up
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[TheMojoPin]

still doesnt change the fact that most rap today is stolen

That's not a fact.

What you're describing is also nothing new. Shit, "Rapper's Delight" is just a chunk of "Good Times" stretched out for like 11 fucking minutes. You're being completely subjective in your view on sampling just to back up the cliche "music back in the day was great but everything today sucks" rant.

[SP1!]

That's not a fact.

What you're describing is also nothing new. Shit, "Rapper's Delight" is just a chunk of "Good Times" stretched out for like 11 fucking minutes. You're being completely subjective in your view on sampling just to back up the cliche "music back in the day was great but everything today sucks" rant.

No a sample is a small bit looped out, but hip hop today just consists of taking other artists work, removing their lyrics then singing or talking over them, its pathetic.

Case in point:
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This was a huge hit a year or so ago for some skanks but nobody even knows that it was sir mix a lot that did most of the work originally.

Again, most of hip hop today is stolen, you have to dig deep for decent rap.

Oh and never mind the fact that nile rodgers produced the song for them, the same nile rodgers who wrote the original song so thats a big fail for you in trying to argue the point.

[TheMojoPin]

No a sample is a small bit looped out, but hip hop today just consists of taking other artists work, removing their lyrics then singing or talking over them, its pathetic.

You're describing the exact same thing. Even someone like Diddy is doing exactly what you're claiming is good...he just does it with really obvious and hugely popular songs (something plenty of hip-hop artists did over the years, including in the olden days, since it would help get play in clubs or on the local radio).

Case in point:
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This was a huge hit a year or so ago for some skanks but nobody even knows that it was sir mix a lot that did most of the work originally.

It's a little distressing that you've now posted two Sir Mix-a-Lot clips on one page like he's some kind of bastion of quality hip-hop.

Again, most of hip hop today is stolen, you have to dig deep for decent rap.

Oh and never mind the fact that nile rodgers produced the song for them, the same nile rodgers who wrote the original song so thats a big fail for you in trying to argue the point.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's not stolen; the samples are paid for. It makes little difference if the same person produces the sampled song and the finished song since the end result is exactly the fucking same as all the shit you're crying about being "stolen." That's ultimately the same thing as someone signing off on something of theirs being sampled.

I'm not sitting here trying to champion all the hip-hop on the charts as being good, but huge generalizations about sampling today as being "stolen" as compared to the past (when samples would often actually be used without permission) just don't stand up at all. You'd get people like Prince Paul or Bomb Squad-type-stuff for a while putting out really dense collections of multiple samples in a song but most of hip-hop has always been using one or two samples and looping them. West is clearly an asshole but you'd have to be deaf to claim to be fan of hip-hop and then just dismiss him as someone like Diddy who goes for the most recognizable and obvious sample for the entire song with little change or production.

[SP1!]

You're describing the exact same thing. Even someone like Diddy is doing exactly what you're claiming is good...he just does it with really obvious and hugely popular songs (something plenty of hip-hop artists did over the years, including in the olden days, since it would help get play in clubs or on the local radio).

Im not saying its good but there is a huge difference between reusing the same music you wrote for another song than using another artists song and either paying them off or getting permission. Niles was probably the 2nd best artist during that time, or producer only to Quincey.

It's a little distressing that you've now posted two Sir Mix-a-Lot clips on one page like he's some kind of bastion of quality hip-hop.
Sir mix a lot is vastly underrated and I think its mainly because hes from Seattle, there is quite a few of his beats and effects used in the past 20 years. Is he the greatest rapper ever? No, but he did make quite a few good beats, there is a difference.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's not stolen; the samples are paid for. It makes little difference if the same person produces the sampled song and the finished song since the end result is exactly the fucking same as all the shit you're crying about being "stolen." That's ultimately the same thing as someone signing off on something of theirs being sampled.

I'm not sitting here trying to champion all the hip-hop on the charts as being good, but huge generalizations about sampling today as being "stolen" as compared to the past (when samples would often actually be used without permission) just don't stand up at all. You'd get people like Prince Paul or Bomb Squad-type-stuff for a while putting out really dense collections of multiple samples in a song but most of hip-hop has always been using one or two samples and looping them. West is clearly an asshole but you'd have to be deaf to claim to be fan of hip-hop and then just dismiss him as someone like Diddy who goes for the most recognizable and obvious sample for the entire song with little change or production.
Stolen, in the fact that you basically just used someone elses work to make yours a hit, most of those songs would not be a hit without the stolen, fine paid for work.

And in the past there used to be a law where you could use up to 7 secs of a song and not have to pay for it which wasnt a big deal until the 90s came along and artists just started using entire songs but looped them for a whole song.

Stolen in the fact that the artists cant write music themselves but can talk over previously popular beats, hell most people can create decent beats on their computers in their bedroom.

[Fallon]

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Nutjob.

[hanso]

Swift Should have cracked him in the head with the mic.

[RoseBlood]

Kanye is batshit crazy, didn't we all know that?
I appreciate the additional entertainment it provides though.

I'm still a fan of his music.

[TheMojoPin]

Stolen in the fact that the artists cant write music themselves but can talk over previously popular beats, hell most people can create decent beats on their computers in their bedroom.

Which undercuts your whole "stolen" rant. The majority of hip-hop on the charts today I'm not a fan of because so little of it actually utilizes any samples at all. Most of the production is original and personally I think it sounds way to cheap, cheesy and "thin." One of the reasons Kanye got attention when he showed up as a producer is that he was bringing it back to the idea of sampling, and particularly creative and quality sampling that hadn't been seen in a long time mixed with original production. That's one of the main reasons that The Blueprint was and is considered to be such a creative success. If you want to slam most of the mainstream hip-hop production today in general, I'm right there with you, but it doesn't make sense to decry it for being "stolen" because if it was actually "stolen" it would be a huge step up from the crappy original, Casio-sounding shit that passes for production these days.

[TheMojoPin]

Im not saying its good but there is a huge difference between reusing the same music you wrote for another song than using another artists song and either paying them off or getting permission. Niles was probably the 2nd best artist during that time, or producer only to Quincey.

The end result is the same thing. Really, the only reason they didn't just sample the song and had to involve Niles was because sampling technology as it came to be known with hip-hop didn't exist at that point and wouldn't for a few more years.

[Kublakhan61]

I have no problem with the use of samples, so called hip hop acts like kayne, diddy, and will smith just use whole songs then take the lyrics out and rap over them.

Thats not sampling, thats just stealing.

No. Sampling and stealing a whole song are very different. This is an example of a rapper rapping over top of a whole song - Ghostface - Holla

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Sampling is more often then not the gathering of a few different bits of songs and reconfiguring them in a such a way that an entirely new, yet familar, though not always familiar, tune is born.

That and the entire history of hip-hop was built on sampling. You're off your chair on this one.

[TheMojoPin]

No. Sampling and stealing a whole song are very different. This is an example of a rapper rapping over top of a whole song - Ghostface - Holla

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ALL HAIL LA GHOST.

[Kublakhan61]

ALL HAIL LA GHOST.

New record is gonna slay!

EDIT: Unless he forgoes all samples like a true rapper, that is.

[TheMojoPin]

Wu-Tang's on a roll, except for all their sampling, which would have been OK if the original producer or musician had been involved, or Sir Mix-a-Lot.

[CountryBob]

Shocks me that people out there idolize this idiot and buy his product. I just dont get the rap angle anyway. Coming from a country guy in TN this shouldnt shock anyone. George Jones is GOD!

[KnoxHarrington]

Shocks me that people out there idolize this idiot and buy his product. I just dont get the rap angle anyway. Coming from a country guy in TN this shouldnt shock anyone. George Jones is GOD!

This may be me being alienated from the hip-hop scene (from a rock perspective), but I have no idea why Kanye West worries so much about this bullshit anyway. Who gives a fuck about the VMA's.

Maybe it's just a sign that I cut my teeth on punk rock, but there's this bizarre desire for the industry to love him that I just don't get.

[Kublakhan61]

Wu-Tang's on a roll, except for all their sampling, which would have been OK if the original producer or musician had been involved, or Sir Mix-a-Lot.

Remember when Sir-Mix-a-Lot teamed up with the Presidents of the USA?
Band was called Subset. I had a few mp3s but never tracked down an album? Also, no vids on youtube??

[TheMojoPin]

Remember when Sir-Mix-a-Lot teamed up with the Presidents of the USA?

How could I forget? When two musical titans like that team up, the world pays attention.

They might as well have called it "We're the Other Schmucks from Seattle."

[Kublakhan61]

How could I forget? When two musical titans like that team up, the world pays attention.

They might as well have called it "We're the Other Schmucks from Seattle."

Let's not turn our anger toward the band that brought us 'Froggy' and 'Lunatic to Love'. I have a special place in my heart for them. Can't explain.

[TheMojoPin]

Let's not turn our anger toward the band that brought us 'Froggy' and 'Lunatic to Love'. I have a special place in my heart for them. Can't explain.

I actually really enjoyed what I head off the second PUSA album. Solid power pop.

[Furtherman]

I hope the ghost of Jim Carroll ass rapes Kanye.

[britneypablo]

<font color="deeppink"> havent any of u assholes ever heard of entitlement....obama predadent nah!

[Aggie]

http://www.dailyfill.com/11-Quotes-That-Prove-Kanye-Is-A-Douchebag-22511/

one of the 11...

http://images.dailyfill.com/dd91ff224ba6459f_963dd1309e72e324_o.jpg

[MacVittie]

http://imgur.com/h9Guq.png

[SP1!]

The end result is the same thing. Really, the only reason they didn't just sample the song and had to involve Niles was because sampling technology as it came to be known with hip-hop didn't exist at that point and wouldn't for a few more years.

No, niles was told by debbie harry how these kids were using his beat for their shows and he went to one with her, he then ended up meeting fab five freddy at a blondie show later and chic joined in to freestyle with them. Niles then heard it later with the sample being used without his permission, needless to say he was pissed. Niles was only involved because they had already sampled him, not because the technology didnt exist then, it did exist and the song was made with out him.

No. Sampling and stealing a whole song are very different. This is an example of a rapper rapping over top of a whole song - Ghostface - Holla

Sampling is more often then not the gathering of a few different bits of songs and reconfiguring them in a such a way that an entirely new, yet familar, though not always familiar, tune is born.

That and the entire history of hip-hop was built on sampling. You're off your chair on this one.
I know what rap was built on, kayne, will, and diddy do not sample for the last fucking time, they take almost entire songs, remove the lyrics and rap over them. Kayne's most famous song is just stolen then him taking over it, same with diddy and will, all the others are just piss poor examples of old rap being used to market an image so they can sell crap to stupid white kids.

I know full well how sampling is used and when done right its a beat that makes you sit up and say "I know that from somewhere" but they use it in a new direction that makes it sound fresh.

Lets not act like kanye is an original artist at all, hes a master marketer in the vein of madonna but hes a piss poor musician.

Let's not turn our anger toward the band that brought us 'Froggy' and 'Lunatic to Love'. I have a special place in my heart for them. Can't explain.
I cant either, I blame their damn hooky lyrics.

The sir mix a lot posting was just another example of an artist stealing someones work and reusing it, I was not using him as the face of good rap, he was entertaining and had a few catchy hooks but lets not act like he was extremely talented in rap. I was using him in conjunction with showing how will smith only steals others ideas then passes them off as his own to a new generation like Kool Moe Dee's wild wild west, shit like that ticks me off when an untalented person takes a more talented artists work then a whole new generation has no idea where it came from. Its why I used to love KK's music blog, some decent music on there and mainly from where old rap beat came from, some were new to me and some were known but they were all entertaining.

[Kublakhan61]

Its why I used to love KK's music blog, some decent music on there and mainly from where old rap beat came from, some were new to me and some were known but they were all entertaining.

I wish he'd bring it back...

[IamFogHat]

Watch South Park on Comedy Central now if you want to have a good laugh.

[TheMojoPin]

No, niles was told by debbie harry how these kids were using his beat for their shows and he went to one with her, he then ended up meeting fab five freddy at a blondie show later and chic joined in to freestyle with them. Niles then heard it later with the sample being used without his permission, needless to say he was pissed. Niles was only involved because they had already sampled him, not because the technology didnt exist then, it did exist and the song was made with out him.

Again, the end result is the same damn thing as if they could have just sampled "Good Times" and Niles signed off on it. It's irrelevant that he was actually involved since the end result is just the same as if his song had been sampled. You're complaining and ranting about producers that you think just take a really obvious piece of music and rap over it, yet that's exactly what this song is. It doesn't matter if the original composer is involved since the final product is exactly what you think is so horrible. And yes, the song predated the sampler.

I know what rap was built on, kayne, will, and diddy do not sample for the last fucking time, they take almost entire songs, remove the lyrics and rap over them. Kayne's most famous song is just stolen then him taking over it

I have no clue what you think is his "most famous song" since none of his big hits are as you describe. Like in the days of classic sampling, Kanye's hits have used samples that loop parts of other songs (interpolations), but none of his hits are where he's just taken most of an entire song and just stripped it of the vocals and then rapped over the music as is. And despite your continued denial, yes, even Diddy and Smith's song contain samples. Really uncreative and broad sampling, sure, but it's still sampling.

I'm not sure why you're so hung up on Will Smith. Diddy and Knaye, fine, they're both hige figures in hip-hop and have been for a while...but Will Smith? He was a pop rap star and had his last platinum record a decade ago. Why do you keep talking about him like he's some scourge of hip-hop dropping huge hits left and right and influencing everyone else?

[jauble]

Again, the end result is the same damn thing as if they could have just smapled

Fucking thirsty, we got anything back there?

[ecobag2]

http://imgur.com/h9Guq.png

lock it.

:clap:

[KC2OSO]

Who is Kanye West?

If you stop paying attention to him. He will go away.

[benjamin]

get off his dick ladies and genlemen.

[CountryBob]

Do you like fish sticks? Do you like to put them in your mouth? Then you are a gay fish!

[Rockvillejoe]

Who is Kanye West?

If you stop paying attention to him. He will go away.

i think he was on that western show "wild, wild west". hence his last name has a double meaning.

the hub bub is how he always portrayed himself as a tough guy walking around with batteries on his shoulder.

i especially liked the episode where he took buffy and jody to central park without mr french knowing about it. mr french was nailing cissy at the time.

mr french had a thing for chicks with over-developed calf muscles like cissy had.

who doesnt?

[KC2OSO]

i think he was on that western show "wild, wild west". hence his last name has a double meaning.

the hub bub is how he always portrayed himself as a tough guy walking around with batteries on his shoulder.

i especially liked the episode where he took buffy and jody to central park without mr french knowing about it. mr french was nailing cissy at the time.

mr french had a thing for chicks with over-developed calf muscles like cissy had.

who doesnt?
who knew? thanks. I thought he was the guy who ate a mars bar out of mick jagger's asshole.

[~Katja~]

http://kanyelicio.us/www.ronfez.net/forums/vaispy.php

didn't take long for that one

[Fallon]

http://kanyelicio.us/www.ronfez.net/forums/vaispy.php

didn't take long for that one

:clap:

[TheMojoPin]

I think we all owe Kanye an apology. (http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/10/um-taylor/)

If only more of us had the bravery to upstage Nazi-lovers.

[strawberrypop]

Voluminous windbag Kanye West is at it again. This time, he's not out to assault your ears with stupid quotes, outrageous comments and nonsensical rhyming. Nope, this time he's out to assault your eyes with the written word. Kanye, who says he doesn't read or respect literature, has dictated a book called Thank You and You're Welcome. Modest title, ain't it? This 52 page (though some pages are blank and others only include a few words) book is soon to be classic of the literary world so why not learn to your "Kanyeisms" (West's self-titled nuggets of "wisdom") now?"

"Sometimes people write novels and they just be so wordy and so self-absorbed."

"I am a proud non-reader of books. I like to get information from doing stuff like actually talking to people and living real life."

"I am not a fan of books. I would never want a book's autograph."


http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded/
Now, I’m not an accomplished author or anything...but I think the first rule of book-selling is “Don’t tell your book-buying audience that reading books is stupid and worthless.”

Which leads me to my concern: What if Kanye isn’t an eccentric genius and, worse, isn’t even trying to feign eccentricity? What if Kanye didn’t spout off a bunch of quirky, polarizing diatribes because he wanted to go down in history as a creative genius, but because he is, in fact, a complete fucking moron? The question we have to ask, then, is “What if Kanye West is retarded?” and everything Kanye’s ever said and done takes on an entirely different context when you view it through this new lens.

If Kanye West is retarded, then he genuinely believes this book contains useful words to live by, and that is horrifying.
Exhibit A is, of course, the fact that his book (which includes pearls of wisdom like “I hate the word hate!”), was not written alone. That’s right, this 52 page, multi-colored, spiraled collection of toilet paper was coauthored by J. Sakiya Sandifer. Why Kanye needed a second author is beyond me (”Hey, what’s another word for hate?” “Hm….Hate?” “NICE!”), but it’s not at all confidence-inspiring, especially when you consider what made it into the book:

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/kanyeblog/kanye1.jpg
(I like how he used "use to" instead of "used to.")


There’s also a beautiful irony in an author misspelling words in his debut book after he publicly denounces school and reading as useless. Wait, that’s not irony. He’s illiterate.

[disneyspy]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded/


http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/kanyeblog/kanye1.jpg
(I like how he used "use to" instead of "used to.")

he use to no the difference

[topless_mike]

"I am a proud non-reader of books. I like to get information from doing stuff like actually talking to people and living real life."

so you then decided to write a book?


"I am not a fan of books. I would never want a book's autograph."


if only a book had hands and was actually able to give an autograph.....

[strawberrypop]

so you then decided to write a book?



if only a book had hands and was actually able to give an autograph.....

Yes, thank you, point-out-the-obvious-explain-the-joke-guy!