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Dr Steve
11-16-2008, 04:44 PM
Hello Dr. Steve,

Yo are the best, and thanks for all of the help with any questions I've ever posted.

Recently, I had a cold sore show up on my upper lip, right side. It was my first time ever having one, and it hurt like hell. I believe that it may have been right on top of one of my nerves, because now I have lost a lot of feeling in my upper lip and parts of my nose around the opening of the nostrils. Is this a common thing, being that the upper lip has such a high amount of nerves? How long could it take for the feeling to come back?

When I had my septoplasty a few years ago it took months. I expect the same.

Thanks in advanced.



Cold sores are caused by the Herpes Simplex Virus, usually HSV1 (the non-genital-herpes kind). This damnable virus hides in nerve cells, and since the immune system can't enter nerve cells, they can avoid detection and destruction for years. Every once in awhile, triggered by stress or trauma or according to some arcane timetable only the stupid viruses understand, they'll emerge from the nerve they're inhabiting and make it out to the skin to multiply...this causes the aforementioned "cold sore". Once in the skin, the immune system is free to kill the darned things, but not before they cause a scab and try to infect other people with their awful lifecycle (if it can be argued that viruses are even "alive"...that's another issue).

Since this was your first cold sore, it was likely a "primary" event, meaning that you were exposed to the virus recently and it invaded at the point of the cold sore. As it entered the nerve to make a home for itself, it irritated it, causing inflammation and the numbness you are experiencing. I'd expect the nerve to fully regenerate in a few weeks, and the next time the virus comes out to play, it probably won't cause any more nerve problems.

If you find you're having breakouts frequently, you'd benefit from anti-viral therapy with Valtrex or Famvir. They now have a one-time treatment with Valtrex...you take 2000mg the day you first feel the cold sore coming on and it just goes away. Some people have such frequent episodes that they just take Valtrex every day to suppress them. Talk to your health care provider about treating cold sores.

When you have a breakout, you're contagious, so be careful. Taking Valtrex decreases the amount of time you're contagious.

hope this helps!


your friend,



Steve

KingGeno
11-17-2008, 05:48 AM
Oh boy.

Thanks for the info. Isn't this very similar to how shingles works, meaning that it sits dormant in your nervous system? That's something I may have to "look forward" to later in life?

As far as getting it, I haven't hooked up with anyone over the past few weeks. How could I have contracted it? very confusing, seeing as how I am a handsome man, very clean again handsome italian man. Rather dashing and romantic with a hell of a smile. IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP, DR. STEVE! :tongue:

Misteriosa
11-17-2008, 05:52 AM
also, if you want an OTC treatment, abreva actually works. its a tiny tiny tube that cost about $20 but is worth it. as soon as you feel the itch on your lip, start applying the cream to the area with a clean cotton swab about 5 times a day. it will clear it up before it gets bad and forms a scab. it cuts healing time down to 5-7 days.

KingGeno
11-17-2008, 05:53 AM
That's exactly what I went out and bought. It worked great.

Whiskeyportal
11-17-2008, 05:55 AM
i always feel a little twitch on my lip a few days before one pops up. i use tons of dermatone and 9 times out of 10 they don't even show up. I've had mine my entire life. They always came up every year right in time for school pictures. sum of bitches.

Misteriosa
11-17-2008, 05:57 AM
yeah.. hsv-1 always has the uncanny ability to always pop up for important social functions http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/smilies/ohboy.gif

KingGeno
11-17-2008, 05:59 AM
Actually, I withdraw my question from the second post. I see you mentioned it could have contracted it a while ago, and it sat dormant. If it even was a cold sore. I'll hav to keep an eye on it.

Thanks so much, Dr. Steve. Looking forward to your next show or appearance. :thumbup:

RoseBlood
11-22-2008, 09:26 PM
Valtrex is wonderful for cold sores.

As soon as I feel a tingle I take 2000mg (two 1gm pills) and instantly the tingle goes away and the sore never even surfaces.

PapaBear
11-22-2008, 09:29 PM
I used to get them a lot as a kid and into my 30's. Since Abreva came out, I haven't had a full fledged cold sore since. The stuff would have really helped my self image if I had it in high school.

RoseBlood
11-22-2008, 09:58 PM
Since Abreva came out, I haven't had a full fledged cold sore since.

Oh the irony of LIFE!!! Grrr...:wallbash:

*edit* wait, do you mean you haven't had one since Abbreva came out or you haven't had one BECAUSE of Abbreva?

PapaBear
11-22-2008, 10:02 PM
Oh the irony of LIFE!!! Grrr...:wallbash:

*edit* wait, do you mean you haven't had one since Abbreva came out or you haven't had one BECAUSE of Abbreva?
Because of it. I'm singing it's praises. But I'm pissed it didn't come out in the 80's

RoseBlood
11-22-2008, 10:03 PM
Because of it. I'm singing it's praises. But I'm pissed it didn't come out in the 80's

Ohh ok, in that case, disregard the first part of my post.

tanless1
12-25-2008, 04:23 AM
[QUOTE=Misteriosa;1959561]also, if you want an OTC treatment, abreva actually works. its a tiny tiny tube that cost about $20 but is worth it.

clortrimazole works well also, big tube for $3 walmart. ... yes, its foot cream.

Dr Steve
12-28-2008, 12:30 PM
[QUOTE=Misteriosa;1959561]also, if you want an OTC treatment, abreva actually works. its a tiny tiny tube that cost about $20 but is worth it.

clortrimazole works well also, big tube for $3 walmart. ... yes, its foot cream.

hmmm...gotta disagree with this one; clotrimazole is an antifungal creme; it has no known antiviral properties. Now, if you had a lip fungus, it'd work great. :-)

Dr Steve
12-28-2008, 12:35 PM
Because of it. I'm singing it's praises. But I'm pissed it didn't come out in the 80's

Just a few notes on Abreva (docosanol). It is approved by the FDA for cold sores and it can be bought over the counter (unlike Valtrex, Famvir, and acyclovir).

It is not an antiviral, though; it somehow (in theory) strengthens the cell wall of surrounding tissues so the virus can't reproduce so easily. Here's some info from the Abreva website:

Q. Is Docosanol an antiviral?
A. Docosanol is not classified as an antiviral. Typically, nucleoside analogues, such as penciclovir (Denavir®) and acyclovir (Zovirax®), are considered the only antivirals that are used for herpes labialis. They are classified as antivirals because their activity occurs in virus-infected cells. Docosanol's mode of action is different. Its mode of action takes place only in healthy cells, where it works on the cell membrane to help inhibit the ability of the virus to fuse with the cell membrane. This makes the virus less likely to enter the cell to begin the process of infection.