Overpraised Kids

[GregoryJoseph]

Ron brought up a study that showed an overwhelming majority of today's kids are positive that no matter what they do in life they will be successful. It stems from the fact that they are endlessly praised and given trophies even when they fail.

Ron thinks it teaches them nothing and leaves them ill-prepared for the real world. Fez thinks it's a wonderful confidence builder.

What say you?

Surprise, surprise - I'm with Ron.

[ScottFromGA]

I agree...overpraised kids are little bitches.


join us in the listening thread sometime, budday!

[~Katja~]

I agree, kids are babied too much and it seems the teenagers are more and more sensitive these days.
While I do think that praise is important it is constructive criticism and teaching them how to do better or improve, is what will help them succeed in life

[RoseBlood]

I tend to agree with Ron more, parent(s) need to find the medium. We've gone too far left of center. Praise is good but as we all know too much of a good thing is no good. I read a study (article) about this a while back, I'll post the link when I get home. Basically it shows how sometimes positive reinforcement can backfire with parents, coaches etc. We're humans and complex; simple positive reinforcement doesn't always work like they do with dogs and animals. I've always been a firm believer that you do need to boost your childs confidence however, not to the point they don't know how to deal with rejection. As far as teens being too sensitive today, I think so, but also realize the further we are from our teen years the more we forget that we were once confused teens ourselves. Trouble is we're turning our confused teens into confused adults with the babying.

[donnie_darko]

remember that time lanet D played the piano on air..and was just banging on it...

i'm so glad fez never made up with mikey d, that guy really creeps me out, and not in a crazed type of creepout either.

[vegasbob]

Kids now are all pussy's can't take any challenge or any obstacles in life .

[CofyCrakCocaine]

There are pros and cons to any fucking thing you do as a parent. It's all about how the individual kid reacts to said parenting that determines if it's "good" or "bad". Jeff Dahmer supposedly had loving parents, yet he grew up to be a cannibalistic serial killer. Ishmael Beah had to spend his childhood years fighting as an indoctrinated rebel soldier in Sierra Leone- he's now a life-loving free man in this country who has authored two novels. Kid in my high school got accepted into an Ivy League school, had a loving family, threw himself off a roof a few days before Graduation. There are personal choices made all the time, and not by the parents.

Maybe it's the individual's fault more so than it is the parent's. You can blame 'em for one or two things maybe ("Mom, I really think you shouldn't have tried to kill yourself that one time when I asked what's for dinner") but it's up to how each kid decides to interpret and apply these lessons that makes the difference.

So whether you think you should be positive or negative with a kid makes really no difference 'cuz it's all a crapshoot. For me personally, I believe that giving all this positive sense of success and accomplishment to a kid before he's done anything to merit this completely sets him up for failure when the inevitable bumps in the road show up and things aren't going like he was raised to believe they should. You shouldn't beat a child, but you shouldn't give him a blue ribbon every time he flushes the toilet either.

[~Katja~]

Kids now are all pussy's can't take any challenge or any obstacles in life .

ALL of them? I disagree.
IT seems to be a trend but certainly does not cover all of them.
Believe it or not, there are still some good parents out there that will take the time to understand and discipline their children...


yeah, they are raising a generation of super kids :bye:

[MacVittie]

Kids these days...

I think by and large kids are overpraised, but I have faith in the generation of young people today. Ultimately, the cream will rise to the top. Some of these kids will have a rude awakening early into adulthood; for some it will shake them to the core, for others it will reconstruct their view of themselves and of the world. And there are still enough "old school" parents and teachers out there that leaders will emerge from the herd.

[~Katja~]

There are pros and cons to any fucking thing you do as a parent. It's all about how the individual kid reacts to said parenting that determines if it's "good" or "bad". Jeff Dahmer supposedly had loving parents, yet he grew up to be a cannibalistic serial killer. Ishmael Beah had to spend his childhood years fighting as an indoctrinated rebel soldier in Sierra Leone- he's now a life-loving free man in this country who has authored two novels. Kid in my high school got accepted into an Ivy League school, had a loving family, threw himself off a roof a few days before Graduation. There are personal choices made all the time, and not by the parents.

Maybe it's the individual's fault more so than it is the parent's. You can blame 'em for one or two things maybe ("Mom, I really think you shouldn't have tried to kill yourself that one time when I asked what's for dinner") but it's up to how each kid decides to interpret and apply these lessons that makes the difference.

So whether you think you should be positive or negative with a kid makes really no difference 'cuz it's all a crapshoot. For me personally, I believe that giving all this positive sense of success and accomplishment to a kid before he's done anything to merit this completely sets him up for failure when the inevitable bumps in the road show up and things aren't going like he was raised to believe they should. You shouldn't beat a child, but you shouldn't give him a blue ribbon every time he flushes the toilet either.

I agree, there is no general parenting rule that applies for all. You can see it how different one has to raise siblings alone, because one will respond one way and the other will have a complete different reception to the same method and not respond the way the first one does.

They are individuals and good parents know who their kids are, listen a lot and talk a lot with them and adjust to their needs without turning them into whiny needy teenagers.

[sailor]

i constantly tell my kid he's an ugly baby, just to keep his head level.

[drjoek]

i constantly tell my kid he's an ugly baby, just to keep his head level.

honesty IS the best policy

zing

[~Katja~]

i constantly tell my kid he's an ugly baby, just to keep his head level.

no you don't. just wait till he asks if he is handsome... oh the fun :D

[drjoek]

As my mom used to tell me "You're handsome enough"

[patsopinion]

Ron brought up a study that showed an overwhelming majority of today's kids are positive that no matter what they do in life they will be successful. It stems from the fact that they are endlessly praised and given trophies even when they fail.

Ron thinks it teaches them nothing and leaves them ill-prepared for the real world. Fez thinks it's a wonderful confidence builder.

What say you?

Surprise, surprise - I'm with Ron.

i was working the election polls with this 17 year old chick
and she starts blathering on about how black and white the world is and about unicorns and shit

and i sayz to myself- man i would really like to be there when the world slaps her in the face with a giant cock

not that i was fantasizing about cocks
or a 17 year old girl with one

wait what are we talking about

[drjoek]

Its funny Ron worries about over praising kids making them think the world owes them a living and yet hes against medicating unruly kids. For all those exceptional draw outside the lines kids he doesn't want to stifle theres probably 20 just plain out of control kids who need to be shut down with dope

[patsopinion]

Its funny Ron worries about over praising kids making them think the world owes them a living and yet hes against medicating unruly kids. For all those exceptional draw outside the lines kids he doesn't want to stifle theres probably 20 just plain out of control kids who need to be shut down with dope

yea because 14 years of taking mind altering drugs every day doesnt do anything to a persons brain

[drjoek]

yea because 14 years of taking mind altering drugs every day doesnt do anything to a persons brain

Im not saying it doesn't Its just that all this talk about not medicating kids is a bit skewed. There are more maniac kids in school that benefit from Drugs than there are "exceptional" kids who are hurt
In my opinion.

[red_red_red]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you actually have kids and parent them?

[Ritalin]

honesty IS the best policy

zing

Look who's talking, Dr. Marinovich, running your poor daughter's legs off.

[drjoek]

Look who's talking, Dr. Marinovich, running your poor daughter's legs off.

She actually just signed a full ride college scholarship
Thank you

[west milly Tom]

I was over-praised and I'm a complete degenerate. So I have to side with Ronnie Greatness on this one. :king:

[Ron Diaz]

Ron Bennington is a hack

[sailor]

no you don't. just wait till he asks if he is handsome... oh the fun :D

i swear i do. everytime someone says he's cute i tell him they're just being polite and he's quite ugly. i swear to god i do that.

[west milly Tom]

i swear i do. everytime someone says he's cute i tell him they're just being polite and he's quite ugly. i swear to god i do that.


While super funny, that is fucked up.

[GreatAmericanZero]

there was an even more compelling argument during this discussion about mediocre people who now think they are amazing talents. Ron brought up these podcasts he gets


A lot of these "fan podcasts" are some of the most arrogant shitty things ever. Its people who think there regular everyday conversation is so compelling that the rest of us are blessed to be given the opportunity to listen to them. Fuck that shit!

the epitome of this is "CT & Jiven". These are people that proudly sell their show as "we are a show of people have discussions like normal people have at a bar". Thats what they are selling? Regular people? Why would i waste my time? And they are regular people that you would hear at a bar. They have no unique or original perspectives or point-of-views about anything..yet they think what they are saying is great enough that poor regular people should hear it.

When i hear radio, i want to hear extraodinary people. Ron and Jim Norton..some of the funniest comic minds out there. Opie who has worked his ass off for decades on his radio craft. Anthony has endless talents. I hate "regular people radio"

and shout-out to DJ Newstyle..he is an exception, he has clearly been working on his craft for years and is putting the work into his show..and it shows. But some of these other fan podcasts are just so bad ("Way too Hip" is another show of people with nothing to say who think they are good enough for the radio)

[~Katja~]

there was an even more compelling argument during this discussion about mediocre people who now think they are amazing talents. Ron brought up these podcasts he gets



like AJ Dynamite??? I can guarantee you this kid was never praised or treated too well as a child.. he is proof it happens to all kinds of people, not just overpraised kids.

[GreatAmericanZero]

like AJ Dynamite??? I can guarantee you this kid was never praised or treated too well as a child.. he is proof it happens to all kinds of people, not just overpraised kids.

i don't know anything about AJ. I recently learned he has an email..i thought he was homeless!

but AJ is different because he has something physically wrong with his brain. And in NY you meet so many weirdoes like him. Just people in a starbucks telling you how they are billionaires and own an island. AJ is more "delusions of grandeur" which is a different discussion than this one

[~Katja~]

i don't know anything about AJ. I recently learned he has an email..i thought he was homeless!

but AJ is different because he has something physically wrong with his brain. And in NY you meet so many weirdoes like him. Just people in a starbucks telling you how they are billionaires and own an island. AJ is more "delusions of grandeur" which is a different discussion than this one

email is free and can be checked for free at public libraries and wi-fi locations... he owns a few keyboards... maybe he has a laptop too

[west milly Tom]

there was an even more compelling argument during this discussion about mediocre people who now think they are amazing talents. Ron brought up these podcasts he gets


A lot of these "fan podcasts" are some of the most arrogant shitty things ever. Its people who think there regular everyday conversation is so compelling that the rest of us are blessed to be given the opportunity to listen to them. Fuck that shit!

the epitome of this is "CT & Jiven". These are people that proudly sell their show as "we are a show of people have discussions like normal people have at a bar". Thats what they are selling? Regular people? Why would i waste my time? And they are regular people that you would hear at a bar. They have no unique or original perspectives or point-of-views about anything..yet they think what they are saying is great enough that poor regular people should hear it.

When i hear radio, i want to hear extraodinary people. Ron and Jim Norton..some of the funniest comic minds out there. Opie who has worked his ass off for decades on his radio craft. Anthony has endless talents. I hate "regular people radio"

and shout-out to DJ Newstyle..he is an exception, he has clearly been working on his craft for years and is putting the work into his show..and it shows. But some of these other fan podcasts are just so bad ("Way too Hip" is another show of people with nothing to say who think they are good enough for the radio)


You're just mad that Jivin wouldn't sleep with you.

[sailor]

While super funny, that is fucked up.

but he's really ugly. (plus, he's too young to get it. shhh.)

[drjoek]

but he's really ugly. (plus, he's too young to get it. shhh.)

Im calling Bull Shit here
The kids Dad is scary looking but hes cute by any standard
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/madrigalq/2008-10115.jpg

[JustJon]

the epitome of this is "CT & Jiven". These are people that proudly sell their show as "we are a show of people have discussions like normal people have at a bar". Thats what they are selling? Regular people? Why would i waste my time? And they are regular people that you would hear at a bar. They have no unique or original perspectives or point-of-views about anything..yet they think what they are saying is great enough that poor regular people should hear it.


So you don't think 2 guys who have actually had radio careers beyond doing podcasts haven't been working on their show when they've been releasing podcasts for over 3 years because you don't like them enough to listen to them regularly?

[CofyCrakCocaine]

"Extraordinary people" can suck cunt whistles on the air too! Bob Deniro comes to mind to name just one example. I found Ant to be alot more interesting on the radio when he was closer to that "ordinary" status in life than in his current extraordinary phase.

[GreatAmericanZero]

So you don't think 2 guys who have actually had radio careers beyond doing podcasts haven't been working on their show when they've been releasing podcasts for over 3 years because you don't like them enough to listen to them regularly?

whenever i heard them i just heard the epitome of mediocrity.

"Extraordinary people" can suck cunt whistles on the air too! Bob Deniro comes to mind to name just one example. I found Ant to be alot more interesting on the radio when he was closer to that "ordinary" status in life than in his current extraordinary phase.

"extraordinary" as in the field of radio

[CofyCrakCocaine]

CT and Jivin Hater since Day 1!

[drjoek]

Isn't the mantra for Ron and Fez that its just 4 guys like us sitting around shooting the shit for 3 hours a day?

[CofyCrakCocaine]

whenever i heard them i just heard the epitome of mediocrity.



"extraordinary" as in the field of radio

yes, Anthony is on the radio

[GreatAmericanZero]

Isn't the mantra for Ron and Fez that its just 4 guys like us sitting around shooting the shit for 3 hours a day?

that is what the people with awful podcasts believe!


you think Ron is a regular guy? you meet people as funny as him on a regular basis? please...O&A and R&F pass their show off as that, but anyone who doesn't think they are extraordinary talents in radio are ignorant

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Isn't the mantra for Ron and Fez that its just 4 guys like us sitting around shooting the shit for 3 hours a day?

I always thought it was "listen to the super genius meets a shy endomorphic pedo named Fez and his pets Retard and Hopeless"

[drjoek]

that is what the people with awful podcasts believe!


you think Ron is a regular guy? you meet people as funny as him on a regular basis? please...O&A and R&F pass their show off as that, but anyone who doesn't think they are extraordinary talents in radio are ignorant

Why are you so antagonistic? and stop reading into my post. All I did was respond to the topic with what I have been told from listening to the show what it is trying to be. Actually I think Ron IS a regular guy. He is quick witted highly intelligent well versed in some subjects and completely un or misinformed on others but at his core is a regular guy who has lived a very interesting life who can entertain me daily. He is a very relateable guy who from what I gather from the social side of this site he shares with his listeners in a big way.

Believe it or not there are other opinions on subjects then just your own

[GreatAmericanZero]

Why are you so antagonistic? and stop reading into my post. All I did was respond to the topic with what I have been told from listening to the show what it is trying to be. Actually I think Ron IS a regular guy. He is quick witted highly intelligent well versed in some subjects and completely un or misinformed on others but at his core is a regular guy who has lived a very interesting life who can entertain me daily. He is a very relateable guy who from what I gather from the social side of this site he shares with his listeners in a big way.

Believe it or not there are other opinions on subjects then just your own

so how many people in this world could sit in Ron's chair tomorrow and deliver the same quality show we are accustomed to? cuz i think you underestimate his talent and i think thats the problem with a lot of the fans with their awful podcasts they are pimping out

[west milly Tom]

Pick up my next podcast at imaradiodooche.com

[drjoek]

so how many people in this world could sit in Ron's chair tomorrow and deliver the same quality show we are accustomed to? cuz i think you underestimate his talent and i think thats the problem with a lot of the fans with their awful podcasts they are pimping out

Again your reading your feelings into other peoles posts. Noone can be Ron Bennington and in no way do I underestimate his talent. I arrange my day around listening to this show daily as Im sure you do. I doubt these podcasters feel they have the same talent as Ron or Fez but they are serving a purpose for themselves and what ever fans they may have. If you feel they are pimping themselves out then Ron has encouraged it by having at least 2 night of a 100 podcasts He has also promoted guys like Dave and SAm and High Society.getting a break with their show which is basically a podcast. Ron I think sees that there has to be a future beyond himself, He has said as much and he is giving them a break.
Again it may not be your taste but there are those that God Fobid think Ron and Fez suck too
Thats why theres 100s of channels

[CofyCrakCocaine]

so how many people in this world could sit in Ron's chair tomorrow and deliver the same quality show we are accustomed to? cuz i think you underestimate his talent and i think thats the problem with a lot of the fans with their awful podcasts they are pimping out

I dont see how being a fan or having an opinion that doesn't praise the hell out of Ronnie B's talents every step of the way is a problem. Ron is faster than lightning off a tin can's ass to the point where Jim Norton is amazed by it, but that don't mean liking other shows is dissin' the big R. He fuckin' hates praising kids, why should we go around praising him? He wouldn't like it. Gotta respect the man's wishes. So's I sez "FUCK RON BENNINGTON!" I only say that cuz I love him.

[drjoek]

I dont see how being a fan or having an opinion that doesn't praise the hell out of Ronnie B's talents every step of the way is a problem. Ron is faster than lightning off a tin can's ass to the point where Jim Norton is amazed by it, but that don't mean liking other shows is dissin' the big R. He fuckin' hates praising kids, why should we go around praising him? He wouldn't like it. Gotta respect the man's wishes. So's I sez "FUCK RON BENNINGTON!" I only say that cuz I love him.

Ron Bennington is a hack

This guy summed it up:tongue:

[GreatAmericanZero]

I dont see how being a fan or having an opinion that doesn't praise the hell out of Ronnie B's talents every step of the way is a problem. Ron is faster than lightning off a tin can's ass to the point where Jim Norton is amazed by it, but that don't mean liking other shows is dissin' the big R. He fuckin' hates praising kids, why should we go around praising him? He wouldn't like it. Gotta respect the man's wishes. So's I sez "FUCK RON BENNINGTON!" I only say that cuz I love him.

ok, take the "CT & Jiven" show off as the example and use "Way Too Hip"..it was a show on "night of 1,000 podcasts" and it was the worst thing i ever heard. And they were the one show that wasn't live..it was a taped show of their best stuff and it was sooo bad. If you heard it, you would agree that they are people with absolutely no business being on the radio because they were so excruciatingly horrible. Crazed's show was genuinely better and more listenable.

so my only problem with people not fully appreciating Ron's talent is when they think "hey, what hes doing isn't so hard..he's just a regular guy..i can do this!" and the results are horrible.

And that ties into the thread topic and the show discussion of people these days who don't work hard...put out garbage and they are proud of it because they don't see their failures. They think they are special. That was the conversation on the show today

[drjoek]

One more point and then I give
Its YOU'RE opinion that way to hip was awful. Others may have loved. Just because you like or dislike something is only for you yet you don't want to acknowledge other tastes and other demographics. And who are all these people who claim they can do Rons gig? People are doing their own thing in a similar medium. And just a suggestion you don't need to quote every post.

[GreatAmericanZero]

One more point and then I give
Its YOU'RE opinion that way to hip was awful. Others may have loved. Just because you like or dislike something is only for you yet you don't want to acknowledge other tastes and other demographics. And who are all these people who claim they can do Rons gig? People are doing their own thing in a similar medium. .

i stand by my statements

And just a suggestion you don't need to quote every post

don't be silly

[drjoek]

i stand by my statements



don't be silly
Just easier on my blackberry that's all.scroll scroll scroll Carry on

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Just easier on my blackberry that's all.scroll scroll scroll Carry on

Joe Kcarr

[JustJon]

So basically GAZ replaces the actual topic with his own opinions in this case. CT and Jivin are guys who actually do work hard at their show (regardless of your limited listening), they just don't put out a show you like. Trust me when I say they aren't high on themselves when they talk about their lack of current success. They are passionate about radio and that shows too. Where most of these "awful podcasters" just want to make you listen to their crap online, these guys are working their asses off to be on real radio, but there is no market for FM talk at this time.

The same issue occurred with The Hideout. Jefe and J-Dubs were really talented and fun to listen to, but there is no place for them to be heard either.

[drjoek]

So basically GAZ replaces the actual topic with his own opinions in this case. CT and Jivin are guys who actually do work hard at their show (regardless of your limited listening), they just don't put out a show you like. Trust me when I say they aren't high on themselves when they talk about their lack of current success. They are passionate about radio and that shows too. Where most of these "awful podcasters" just want to make you listen to their crap online, these guys are working their asses off to be on real radio, but there is no market for FM talk at this time.

The same issue occurred with The Hideout. Jefe and J-Dubs were really talented and fun to listen to, but there is no place for them to be heard either.

He seems to do that in most threads he feels he needs to post in

[GreatAmericanZero]

So basically GAZ replaces the actual topic with his own opinions in this case.

if you heard today's segment that this topic is based on, i was elaborating on a point Ron made. Ron was talking about how overpraised kids result in mediocre people thinking they are putting out amazing work. As an example he spoke about how he gets all these podcasts that are just terrible that people want him to listen to. So since this is a thread about this conversation, i wanted to bring up that aspect of the discussion that was included in the discussion of this topic

[JustJon]

if you heard today's segment that this topic is based on, i was elaborating on a point Ron made. Ron was talking about how overpraised kids result in mediocre people thinking they are putting out amazing work. As an example he spoke about how he gets all these podcasts that are just terrible that people want him to listen to. So since this is a thread about this conversation, i wanted to bring up that aspect of the discussion that was included in the discussion of this topic

And they've talked about their home lives. Overpraised isn't a word that comes to mind.

[RoseBlood]

I read a study (article) about this a while back, I'll post the link when I get home. Basically it shows how sometimes positive reinforcement can backfire with parents, coaches etc.

Ok, this thread has derailed so maybe this isn't relevant anymore but here's the link if anyone's interested.. or not.

http://www.alfiekohn.org/parenting/gj.htm

[RMPGP]

whenever i heard them i just heard the epitome of mediocrity.



"extraordinary" as in the field of radio

Senses of humor come in all types. Yours isn't the center of the universe although it may seem that way to you.

[RMPGP]

ok, take the "CT & Jiven" show off as the example and use "Way Too Hip"..it was a show on "night of 1,000 podcasts" and it was the worst thing i ever heard. And they were the one show that wasn't live..it was a taped show of their best stuff and it was sooo bad. If you heard it, you would agree that they are people with absolutely no business being on the radio because they were so excruciatingly horrible. Crazed's show was genuinely better and more listenable.

so my only problem with people not fully appreciating Ron's talent is when they think "hey, what hes doing isn't so hard..he's just a regular guy..i can do this!" and the results are horrible.

And that ties into the thread topic and the show discussion of people these days who don't work hard...put out garbage and they are proud of it because they don't see their failures. They think they are special. That was the conversation on the show today

Wait, didn't Ron draft/pick "Way Too Hip" in that battle of the podcasts? And had kind words to say about them? You are shitting on shows from that night, but I got the impression Ron wasn't referring to them. In defense of them, it appears they wouldn't fit the point Ron was making today because they have been around since 2006 honing their craft, and didn't just do one and hand it to him.

You seem to be judging the quality of the show on whether you find it funny or not. I remember hearing it and thought it was pretty well made and polished.

Anyway, I looked up the original article that Fez brought up, he found it at USA Today. Here's the article:

Today's teenagers and young adults are far more likely than their parents to believe they're great people, destined for maximum success as workers, spouses and parents, suggests a report comparing three decades of national surveys.

And these so-called Millennials or Gen Y young people may be heading for a fall when their self-esteem is punctured by reality, says psychologist Jean Twenge of San Diego State University. She examined changes from 1975 to 2006 in yearly surveys, given to thousands of high school seniors by University of Michigan researchers.

Compared with the Baby Boomers who were seniors in 1975, 12th-graders surveyed in 2006 were much more confident they'd be "very good" employees, mates and parents, and they were more self-satisfied overall, say Twenge and co-author W. Keith Campbell of the University of Georgia. Between half and two-thirds of the Gen Y teens gave themselves top ratings, compared with less than half in their parents' generation. The report is in Psychological Science.

Boomer parents "are more likely than their parents were to praise children — and maybe overpraise them," Twenge says. This can foster great expectations or perhaps even smugness about one's chances of reaching "the stars" at work and in family life, she adds. "Their narcissism could be a recipe for depression later when things don't work out as well as they expected."

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But high self-esteem is more likely to protect them against depression, argues Brent Roberts, a psychologist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. His studies of teenagers followed to age 21 found that low self-esteem in high school contributes to becoming more depressed later.

There's also evidence that having optimistic goals leads people to do better, Roberts says. "We don't know what these kids eventually are going to do. Maybe a lot of them will be great workers and better at family life than their parents were."

Still, kids and young adults with big egos could create problems for others, says Roy Baumeister, a psychologist at Florida State University who has studied self-esteem. "Many people who grew up in the '50s say, 'Nothing I did was ever good enough for my parents.' Now we're seeing the pendulum swing, and you hear from coaches and teachers who have been at it a while that kids have become more fragile. They don't take criticism well," he says.

"Thinking you're God's gift to the world is nice for you. It's a little harder for everyone else around you."

Compared with high school seniors in 1975, seniors in 2006 were more confident they'd be great workers, spouses and parents. Those who predicted they'd be "very good" at being:

1975
Spouses: 37%
Parents: 36%
Workers: 49%

2006
Spouses: 56%
Parents: 54%

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-11-18-teen-self-esteem_N.htm

Personally I don't think this will be some huge future problem. I would speculate that every generation is a little bit more optimistic than the previous one. If you went back 30 years from 1976, you'd see a similar increase from the 1946 students. I'm sure the WWII generation had the same complaints about the boomers saying they are too coddled, etc.

And yet each generation finds itself in a better place in terms of technological advances, etc. Society isn't going to go to shit because kids are a little bit happier now than they were 30 years ago.

Here's the entire study if you want to check it out: http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/ps/19_11_inpress/twenge.pdf

[Gvac]

Listen, let's face it - these little fruitbags are coddled until they're ready to leave the nest, which in some cases is when they reach their 30's!

Never mind spanking; these humps should be beaten with a billy club when they're young so they can toughen up a bit.

[Friday]

Listen, let's face it - these little fruitbags are coddled until they're ready to leave the nest, which in some cases is when they reach their 30's!

Never mind spanking; these humps should be beaten with a billy club when they're young so they can toughen up a bit.

you and blowhard should mate.

[yojimbo7248]

Speaking of podcasts and overpraised kids, Ron was contradicted everything he said yesterday when he gave Lenay her time slot last year. I remember the Dave, Lilly, and someone else who had the final say had already decided against her. Then she started to cry and Ron made a special Lenay time on Sunday. I remember Mooch was spot on. He said that it would be better for Lenay if she worked on a kid's show or developed her radio skills some other way. Then someday she could earn the spot rather than just get it because Mikey D is a friend of the show.
I think Mooch is the most consistent, strongest personality on the show. I also like how he never softened on criticizing Lilly. On her final show, everyone was saying how wonderful Lilly is as she played that godawful Maria Carey song. I'm sure there were a few that thought Lilly is an overrated diva but hid it. Mooch is the only one who I trust to clearly and consistently say what he thinks and then stick to it.
Not that it its a bad thing but Ron seems to value personal loyalty and friendship above competency when it comes to making decisions for the show. He was also surprisingly indecisive in that Lenay situation.

[A.J.]

Never mind spanking; these humps should be beaten with a billy club when they're young so they can toughen up a bit.

Do you what it's liked to be kicked...in the head...with an iron boot?

[GreatAmericanZero]

Speaking of podcasts and overpraised kids, Ron was contradicted everything he said yesterday when he gave Lenay her time slot last year. I remember the Dave, Lilly, and someone else who had the final say had already decided against her. Then she started to cry and Ron made a special Lenay time on Sunday. I remember Mooch was spot on. He said that it would be better for Lenay if she worked on a kid's show or developed her radio skills some other way. Then someday she could earn the spot rather than just get it because Mikey D is a friend of the show.
I think Mooch is the most consistent, strongest personality on the show. I also like how he never softened on criticizing Lilly. On her final show, everyone was saying how wonderful Lilly is as she played that godawful Maria Carey song. I'm sure there were a few that thought Lilly is an overrated diva but hid it. Mooch is the only one who I trust to clearly and consistently say what he thinks and then stick to it.
Not that it its a bad thing but Ron seems to value personal loyalty and friendship above competency when it comes to making decisions for the show. He was also surprisingly indecisive in that Lenay situation.

oh there ya go. if these "podcasts" ron thinks these podcasts he puts on the air are genuinely good, than he thinks Lenay D's show is good. Lenay D was the very first example of "overpraised kids" he came up with

[Gvac]

Ron's way has never been to tell people right off the bat whether they're "good" or not. He gives them the opportunity to either succeed or fail and will only offer his opinion when asked.

He's probably the best teacher and mentor I've ever seen in this respect.