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keithy_19
11-27-2008, 02:13 PM
Why do a larger majority suck? If you go onto punk sites, they are the most closed minded fanbase.

I grew up listening to punk and till this day still like, even love certain punk bands. But, a lot of them suck. And a lot of the fans are so judgemental. If you don't like punk you're obviously a faggot. Though, in my opinion listening to Black Sabbath makes someone more of a man than listening to fucking Choking Victim.

Not that the type of music you listen to dictates how 'tough' you are.

The Ogre
11-27-2008, 03:49 PM
Well shit, hard to believe that a bunch of social misfits who listen to music that only .001% of the population has heard of would be close minded pricks. Oi and hardcore are even worse for online communities. Personally I keep any scene discussion light and to a minimum online. Then I can put on a Born Against or Sheer Terror record without first getting permission from some jerkoff on dialup AOL in Duluth.

keithy_19
11-27-2008, 03:55 PM
My favorite band is The Clash. They were so against being close minded. That's what made them so great. They were punk, and being punk was about being willing to do whatever you wanted. Socially as well as musically.

ahhdurr
11-27-2008, 03:56 PM
It's amazing to me that punk music never took off.

paracetamol flanders
11-27-2008, 04:04 PM
Though, in my opinion listening to Black Sabbath makes someone more of a man than listening to fucking Choking Victim.

The true punk would rather listen to the sound of choking than to music at all.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt
11-27-2008, 04:11 PM
At first it was a way to rebel against the status quo. Then, over time, there became a uniform. If you strayed from the uniform you got beat up or ostracized.

It's ultimately become what it rebelled against. Back in 1987 I got laughed at by punks for what I was wearing at a CBGB's show. HUH?

Punk has become a fashion statement and a marketing tool. BE DIFFERENT BY BUYING OUR CRAP!!!

I know you're younger than I am, and at 41, I'm pretty much bummed out by it myself.

MacVittie
11-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Why do a larger majority suck? If you go onto punk sites, they are the most closed minded fanbase.

Because they're punker than you.

paracetamol flanders
11-27-2008, 04:33 PM
Punk has become a fashion statement and a marketing tool. BE DIFFERENT BY BUYING OUR CRAP!!!

I know you're younger than I am, and at 41, I'm pretty much bummed out by it myself.

Punk as a tired uniform is so 1976. However, there is something about being 13-20 that makes wearing that exhausted 30 year old look FEEL edgy. Punk as an attitude is not for the olds. In a way I enjoy being dismissed as the old fuck at a punk show because I feel like I am part of some continuum. Plus they're right, what am I doing dressing like that anymore?

This I can say for sure: one of the most unpunk things that exists in the world is a message board thread about punk. The song was not called "Analysis in the UK" for a reason.

keithy_19
11-27-2008, 04:47 PM
This I can say for sure: one of the most unpunk things that exists in the world is a message board thread about punk. The song was not called "Analysis in the UK" for a reason.

Eh. Wouldn't the fact I'm calling out the large majority of the punk rock community make me more punk than the people who just go with what the punk elite say.

oh_kee_pa
11-27-2008, 04:55 PM
Craig Ferguson had a bit in his monologue the other night about some kid he saw wearing a "punk isn't dead shirt"...

i dont remember what it was but it was relevant to this post

keithy_19
11-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Craig Ferguson had a bit in his monologue the other night about some kid he saw wearing a "punk isn't dead shirt"...

i dont remember what it was but it was relevant to this post

Post of the year.

paracetamol flanders
11-27-2008, 05:02 PM
Eh. Wouldn't the fact I'm calling out the large majority of the punk rock community make me more punk than the people who just go with what the punk elite say.

I'm going to go way out on a (severed) limb here; but claiming to be punk automatically makes a person devoid of all punkness. The true zen of punk is simply BEING and having others come up with labels.

P.S. Sod off you bloody wanker!

realmenhatelife
11-27-2008, 07:55 PM
It is sortof a loaded attitude. Punk and it's offshoots are all reactionary music styles, a large part of what they are (or atleast the traditions they are drawing from) is the statement that 'our whole aesthetic is different than your's.' So naturally you're going to have a fan base that assumes it is smarter than the majority.

Anywhere you have a 'scene' or any kind of value system that is not dependent on commercial success you are going to have elitism. There are no objective measures, so everyone can be right and considering the demographics involved they are people that dont mind telling you that they're right. All scenes are terrible; its not just a punk thing, just read some stuff that grunge scenesters have to say.

The bottom line is that most bands suck and most people between 18 and 25 are unrealistic assholes with a blog. Its a lot of people who embraced the music because they felt ostracized, but ironically they didn't use the community to create a climate where that alienation wouldn't exist, they just manipulated it so they would be the popular ones.

I know that the commercialism in punk is now a very visible issue, but there were always shitty punks with shitty attitudes. Watch documentaries about punk origins and some of those old guys are at their territorial worst talking about how they're still cooler than people half their age. Bands have been writing songs about trying to disassociate from the scene for decades before you could buy studded belts at target.

Really my whole post could just be Boxcar by Jawbreaker