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KnoxHarrington
12-13-2008, 08:40 AM
There are artists who put out one or two really great albums that stand out from their repertoire, that I think you have to admit the greatness of even if you are indifferent to their work as a whole. It's probably the only album of theirs you own or even listen to regularly, while the others you can take or leave. For me, it's this one:

http://www.leftoffthedial.com/nebraska.bmp

Now, I feel a little nervous admitting I'm not a Springsteen fan on a board populated by so many from Jersey. But my problem isn't so much The Boss himself as it is the E Street Band. I think when he plays with them, his impulses to make everything completely overblown and bombastic get indulged. Plus, it's a forum for that douche Clarence Clemons to dance around like a jag until he plays another bad sax solo.

And that, to me, ruins the impact and maybe even meaning of a lot of the songs. I mean, "Born to Run" gets the full E Street treatment with blaring horns, loud guitar parts, thundering drums. And the lyrics of that song suggest a much darker, more complex song than the music gives you. It turns into a theme for some douche driving a Camaro to his job as an insurance salesman.

Which brings me to Nebraska. Springsteen recorded these songs at home, by himself, thinking of taking them to the E Street Band. But he listened to them and realized that these songs cannot be theme songs for aforementioned Camaro driving insurance guy. They're stark, brutal songs about people who are not born to run, who aren't loveable "tramps" out to have as good a time as they can. They're people whose time is already up. Or people who have gone into a dark place they cannot get out of -- and are taking people with them. When, at the end of the title track, Bruce sings "They want to know why I did what I did/Well, sir, I guess there's just a meanness in this world", it's as chilling and stark and terrifying a moment as has ever been put to music. And, I'm sorry, Little Stevie, you can't pose with your guitar and a douchey bandanna on your head during this song. Not for you.

So there you go. This is the album that gave us the poet of doom Bruce should be, but won't let himself be because he has to pack out an arena.

GreatAmericanZero
12-13-2008, 11:35 AM
i do like "the blue album" and parts of "Maladroit", but Weezer's "Pinkerton" blows everything away so far that, comparison wise, they should be embarrassed by their other music

Ritalin
12-13-2008, 11:36 AM
Kiss alive 2

west milly Tom
12-13-2008, 11:40 AM
Planet Earth by Prince rocks.

west milly Tom
12-13-2008, 11:43 AM
i do like "the blue album" and parts of "Maladroit", but Weezer's "Pinkerton" blows everything away so far that, comparison wise, they should be embarrassed by their other music

I am a huge Weezer fan. I see them everytime they're in new york. I but all their stuff. The Blue album is my favorite, but Pinkerton kicks serious ass, and it was panned by the critics. That album almost broke them up. I play 'butterfly' on my guitar when Im feeling blue alot.

SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
12-13-2008, 01:16 PM
Planet Earth by Prince rocks.

Is this a joke?

Of all the Prince albums, THAT'S the one you like?

Jesus.

SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
12-13-2008, 01:18 PM
There are artists who put out one or two really great albums that stand out from their repertoire, that I think you have to admit the greatness of even if you are indifferent to their work as a whole. It's probably the only album of theirs you own or even listen to regularly, while the others you can take or leave. For me, it's this one:

http://www.leftoffthedial.com/nebraska.bmp

Now, I feel a little nervous admitting I'm not a Springsteen fan on a board populated by so many from Jersey. But my problem isn't so much The Boss himself as it is the E Street Band. I think when he plays with them, his impulses to make everything completely overblown and bombastic get indulged. Plus, it's a forum for that douche Clarence Clemons to dance around like a jag until he plays another bad sax solo.

And that, to me, ruins the impact and maybe even meaning of a lot of the songs. I mean, "Born to Run" gets the full E Street treatment with blaring horns, loud guitar parts, thundering drums. And the lyrics of that song suggest a much darker, more complex song than the music gives you. It turns into a theme for some douche driving a Camaro to his job as an insurance salesman.

Which brings me to Nebraska. Springsteen recorded these songs at home, by himself, thinking of taking them to the E Street Band. But he listened to them and realized that these songs cannot be theme songs for aforementioned Camaro driving insurance guy. They're stark, brutal songs about people who are not born to run, who aren't loveable "tramps" out to have as good a time as they can. They're people whose time is already up. Or people who have gone into a dark place they cannot get out of -- and are taking people with them. When, at the end of the title track, Bruce sings "They want to know why I did what I did/Well, sir, I guess there's just a meanness in this world", it's as chilling and stark and terrifying a moment as has ever been put to music. And, I'm sorry, Little Stevie, you can't pose with your guitar and a douchey bandanna on your head during this song. Not for you.

So there you go. This is the album that gave us the poet of doom Bruce should be, but won't let himself be because he has to pack out an arena.

Totally agree with this. Love Bruce without the band. With them, he's just a skinny version of Meat Loaf. Born to Run[/] is just [i]Bat out of Hell made by a better looking dude.

west milly Tom
12-13-2008, 01:21 PM
Is this a joke?

Of all the Prince albums, THAT'S the one you like?

Jesus.


Crazy weird Prince from the 80s dosent do it for me. That last album was a goody, and his performance on SNL to promote gave me a chubby.

SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
12-13-2008, 01:26 PM
Crazy weird Prince from the 80s dosent do it for me. That last album was a goody, and his performance on SNL to promote gave me a chubby.

Prince is infinitely crazier and weirder now and in the 90's than he was in the 80's. Compared to everything since, 80's Prince was almost a boring dude who just wore a lot of purple, banged a million chicks and made amazing music.

SatCam
12-13-2008, 06:37 PM
Which brings me to Nebraska. Springsteen recorded these songs at home, by himself, thinking of taking them to the E Street Band. But he listened to them and realized that these songs cannot be theme songs for aforementioned Camaro driving insurance guy.

He actually recorded the album with the E Street Band but his dissatisfaction with the result was what prompted him to use the acoustic version. That version has never been released and it would be an interesting listen........

(My favorite Springsteen album is "The Wild, The innocent and the E Street Shuffle". It is a different sound I would suggest checking it out if you don't like his later stuff.)



My vote would go to Viva La Vida by Coldplay. It is actually a good album but their other stuff is crap.

patsopinion
12-13-2008, 07:06 PM
how bout red hot chili peppers
way to make one good album




shit heads

Puggle_kicker
12-13-2008, 07:23 PM
Im going to have to say Coolio Gangsta Paradise.

I still love that but everything else I have no interest in. And more than just the song Gangstas Paradise, I like that whole album.

Also, to the OP, thanks for turning me on to that Springsteen album. Im enjoying it much.

hedges
12-14-2008, 12:08 AM
The Jelly Roll Kings "Rockin the Juke Joint Down"--not entirely fare since they only had one other recorded album together

The Minutemen "Double Nickels on the Dime" incredible.