Senator Caroline Kennedy?? [Archive] - RonFez.net Messageboard

drjoek

12-18-2008, 12:17 PM

There sems to be a big push to anoint Caroline Kennedy to replace Hilary Clinton in the Senate. Her only qualification seems to be her last name. Is she no longer married so that she has given up Shlosshberg(sp?). She has essentially been a stay at home mom for the last fifteen years. What do you think?

Furtherman

12-18-2008, 12:22 PM

FezsAssistant

12-18-2008, 12:23 PM

she looks just like ted kennedy. i wonder if she, too, killed someone while drunk driving/date rape, then paid off the victim's family to not make a big stink?
america's royal family.

epo

12-18-2008, 12:27 PM

she looks just like ted kennedy. i wonder if she, too, killed someone while drunk driving/date rape, then paid off the victim's family to not make a big stink?
america's royal family.

Yawn.

I have no clue whether the people of the State of New York think she is qualified. But to play the "Ted is a drunk, so she is a drunk" game is just idiotic.

Fezticle98

12-18-2008, 12:27 PM

she looks just like ted kennedy. i wonder if she, too, killed someone while drunk driving/date rape, then paid off the victim's family to not make a big stink?
america's royal family.

jealous?

HBox

12-18-2008, 12:27 PM

I spent the fall outraged that Sarah Palin was nominated as Vice President. I'm sure as hell not going to support Caroline Kennedy. But it's not my state so it don't matter that much for me.

Zorro

12-18-2008, 12:48 PM

So is she Kennedy-Schlossberg doing like Hillary when she dropped Rodham? Gotta be difficult for women...

Furtherman

12-18-2008, 01:04 PM

So is she Kennedy-Schlossberg doing like Hillary when she dropped Rodham? Gotta be difficult for women...

She never took her husband's last name, although the press often calls her that.

K.C.

12-18-2008, 01:13 PM

She has a little more than her last name - she's dedicated much of her life to public service, which is a very good start considering politicians are supposed to be working for the people. She also authored books on civil liberties.

Is she qualified? I don't know. But I'll wait for her to present her case before I dismiss her because of her last name.

Here's my thing...

I think there's a legitimate gripe when citing past legislative or executive experience as an issue for someone running for President.

I don't think it's one in regards to someone running for the Senate.

There are a ton of people with no previous government experience, who either come from the private sector, or the different lobbies, who run for U.S. Senate every election cycle.

I'm not sure exactly how many current senators didn't have previous legislative experience right now, but it's not a very uncommon occurance.

And part of the reason is because you are 1 of 100. There is an enormous check on the power of ONE senator. So it's an office where voters can afford to pay a bit more attention to someone's ideas.

Same goes for the U.S. House.

The Presidency is a different animal, though.

AKA

12-18-2008, 01:25 PM

http://www.thecobrasnose.com/images6/camelot.jpg

keithy_19

12-18-2008, 03:09 PM

http://www.thecobrasnose.com/images6/camelot.jpg

Isn't that Obama's thing now?

scottinnj

12-18-2008, 03:50 PM

I just wish governors in general would just stick to two principles when appointing replacements for vacant seats

1. Replace party for party. The people took party into consideration when in the voting booth.

2. Replace with an elected official. If in this case, a federal senator, replace with an elected official from the state senate. If a state senate seat becomes open, replace with a mayor of a major city or someone like a county chairman.

I'm sure Ms. Kennedy is a nice person, and I have heard about what she has done regarding politics. But I don't think it is fair for citizens to have someone appointed to an office who has never faced the voters in an election.

Ogre

12-18-2008, 04:24 PM

http://www.thecobrasnose.com/images6/camelot.jpg

Yeaah Booyee Me and Whitney love Cameltoealot too.

http://www.jossip.com/gossip/Whitney%20Houston%20and%20Bobby%20Brown%20(crop).J PG

cougarjake13

12-18-2008, 05:06 PM

http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/constitution_day/background/images/kennedy.jpg

conman823

12-18-2008, 06:33 PM

All I wonder is who our elected Gov'na would have selected for this seat?

I don't support this at all, mostly because I feel special elections should be held in all cases like this with the exception of perhaps death in office. Either the people vote or the State Senate appoints, it shouldn't be left up to one man.

Also it just seems to be less about qualifications and more about a media circus. But what else is new?

JerseySean

12-18-2008, 06:43 PM

So in NY, you're gonna have an unelected Governor appoint a woman because of who her father is because some guy from Nevada said to....I though NJ was fucked up

Sinestro

12-18-2008, 06:44 PM

http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/constitution_day/background/images/kennedy.jpg

I'd hit it.

JerseySean

12-18-2008, 06:45 PM

I'd hit it.

ewwww

scottinnj

12-18-2008, 06:55 PM

http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/constitution_day/background/images/kennedy.jpg

I'd hit it.

ewwww

No no no JerseySean, Sinestro was making another "blind governor" joke. Get it? You'd have to be BLIND to hit that.

Unless he was serious, then, ewwww

ToiletCrusher

12-18-2008, 07:18 PM

Given immediate family history, if appointed, how long can we expect her to last?

Besides, someone from upstate or western NY needs more say. Schumer needs to no longer be overshadowed.

JerseySean

12-18-2008, 07:22 PM

http://wcbstv.com/local/caroline.kennedy.us.2.889765.html

Gvac

12-18-2008, 07:24 PM

I honestly wish this bloodline would finally die out.

ToiletCrusher

12-18-2008, 07:26 PM

http://wcbstv.com/local/caroline.kennedy.us.2.889765.html

Just the beginning. She had a mixed response here. Mayor of Buffalo is also on the short list of potential replacements for Clinton so... yeah.. way to meet and make nice with the competition.

ToiletCrusher

12-18-2008, 07:27 PM

I honestly wish this bloodline would finally die out.

Never gonna happen. Too much inbreeding just like the british royalty.

TooLowBrow

12-18-2008, 07:28 PM

Never gonna happen. Too much inbreeding just like the british royalty.

are you saying the kennedys are anemic with bad teeth?

Hottub

12-18-2008, 07:29 PM

Nice girl. Nice family.

A.J.

12-19-2008, 03:13 AM

I guess there is nobody else good enough from the NY Congressional delegation.

Furtherman

12-19-2008, 06:07 AM

I honestly wish this bloodline would finally die out.

That would be then end of an er-ra, er-ra, er-ra...

epo

12-19-2008, 05:09 PM

I honestly wish this bloodline would finally die out.

I can't wait to laugh at you when you marry into that family. My oh my, will I laugh. And point too.

NewYorkDragons80

12-21-2008, 03:26 PM

Oops, I forgot to vote for the Senate seat I'm gunning for. (http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/saturday/news/ny-stkenn205971849dec20,0,3750313.story)

SatCam

12-21-2008, 03:32 PM

Oops, I forgot to vote for the Senate seat I'm gunning for. (http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/saturday/news/ny-stkenn205971849dec20,0,3750313.story)

one of us

MacVittie

12-21-2008, 03:36 PM

What Paterson should do is appoint Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is the most likely Democrat to unseat Paterson, since Paterson was never actually elected governor. Putting Cuomo in the senate would remove a big obstacle to Paterson getting elected in 2010.

Then again, one of the big reasons that Cuomo is AG is because of his last name. Ron was truly correct when he said that we don't want democracy in this country, we want royalty.

Gvac

12-21-2008, 03:38 PM

That would be then end of an er-ra, er-ra, er-ra...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

Ferdinand rules!

NewYorkDragons80

12-21-2008, 03:42 PM

Then again, one of the big reasons that Cuomo is AG is because of his last name. Ron was truly correct when he said that we don't want democracy in this country, we want royalty.

Coming from someone who nominated his own son for Kenny Allen... Shameful

mendyweiss

12-21-2008, 04:01 PM

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/JosephKennedySr.jpg

She married a WHAT ???

NewYorkDragons80

12-21-2008, 06:45 PM

epo

12-21-2008, 07:05 PM

I'm not too much into NY politics, but it seems to me that Governor Patterson is in an awful spot on this one. He's obviously got to make a "popular" move, but it seems whatever pick he makes will definitely piss a few off.

TheMojoPin

12-21-2008, 07:06 PM

Please pass on Kennedy.

NewYorkDragons80

12-21-2008, 07:10 PM

What was Obama thinking picking Hillary? Kerry was the first major endorsement he got and he had a ton of foreign policy experience and it seemed like he was jockeying for the Secretary of State job big time. I wonder how many people knew of Kennedy and Cuomo's ambitions before Hillary was chosen?

TheMojoPin

12-21-2008, 07:14 PM

What was Obama thinking picking Hillary? Kerry was the first major endorsement he got and he had a ton of foreign policy experience and it seemed like he was jockeying for the Secretary of State job big time.

Because Kerry still hasn't overcome the stigma of having lost 2004, and for better or for worse that pretty much sinks somone in that position.

pennington

12-23-2008, 04:41 AM

So let's recap. The case for Caroline Kennedy seems to be she's smart, she went to law school, she works to raise money and although not a native she's actually lived in NY. Oh, and Camelot will be back in our lives.

So what if we were talking about a Caroline Schlossberg instead? A Park Ave. wife and mother, a schiksa who married a Jewish guy (but didn't convert), a trust-fund baby, a law school graduate who's never made a living at it and a person who's helped raise money for political causes but probably the only part of NY she knows is Manhattan and maybe the Hamptons. Would anybody even consider this person to be appointed to the U.S. Senate?

I don't wish them ill, but it's past time for the Kennedys to go away. We don't need Caroline in the Senate, Ted needs to retire and work on his health, Ted's son needs to get out of the House of Representatives and work on getting off whatever "cold medication" he's on, and Robert, Jr. needs to stop running around with Hugo Chavez and going on TV lecturing the rest of us. Go away and live anonymously and in peace.

HBox

01-21-2009, 03:33 PM

The NY Times is saying she has withdrawn. I'm guessing that she found out that Paterson was not going to pick her and moved first. Paterson did say he had already made his decision yesterday.

EliSnow

01-21-2009, 03:36 PM

It will be Andrew Cuomo.

MacVittie

01-21-2009, 04:02 PM

It will be Andrew Cuomo.

My thoughts too. The people of N.Y. want Cuomo, and Cuomo they shall have.

EliSnow

01-21-2009, 04:05 PM

My thoughts too. The people of N.Y. want Cuomo, and Cuomo they shall have.

Cuomo's office had some big settlements in the last two weeks that I believe were timed to maximize his profile to be named senator.

high fly

01-21-2009, 05:15 PM

It will be Andrew Cuomo.

And so................................................ the dynasty begins...

Reephdweller

01-21-2009, 05:19 PM

It will be Andrew Cuomo.

The five worst words I've heard all day.

epo

01-21-2009, 05:46 PM

Reports conflict on end to Kennedy's Senate bid (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28780112/)
Family source tells NBC News that she has not withdrawn her name

Several newspapers reported Wednesday that Caroline Kennedy planned to withdraw from consideration for the Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Clinton, but NBC News reported that a Kennedy family source said it was not true.

The New York Times cited as its source a person told of her decision and reported that she called New York Gov. David Paterson to express concerns about the health of her uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who was hospitalized Tuesday after a seizure. A statement from Kennedy could come as early as Wednesday evening, the Times reported.

However, a Kennedy family source told NBC News' David Gregory that Caroline Kennedy had not withdrawn. Two sources hinted to NBC News that there may have been a miscommunication between Kennedy and Paterson's office.

Classic dirty pool!

Dude!

01-21-2009, 05:50 PM

score
Hillary 1
Obama 0

MacVittie

01-21-2009, 06:12 PM

score
Hillary 1
Obama 0

I don't get it.

HBox

01-21-2009, 06:32 PM

Looks like she's back to being out. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28780112/)

Bitch can't make up her mind.

TheMojoPin

01-21-2009, 06:36 PM

STAY OUT.

Jesus.

conman823

01-21-2009, 06:36 PM

Thank god :clap:

Coach

01-21-2009, 07:19 PM

I'd bet she goes to Mass and goes for Ted's spot.

Dude!

01-21-2009, 07:22 PM

I don't get it.

obama wanted kennedy in the job

hillary did not want her to get the job, as kennedy endorsed obama with alot of hoopla at a critical point in the campaign

the clintons never forgive and forget

so hillary wins this one

ergo

score
hillary 1
obama 0

NickyL0885

01-21-2009, 07:44 PM

Fran Drescher now has a chance!

Coach

01-21-2009, 08:45 PM

Fran Drescher now has a chance!
Not with that porn of her and Seka out there.

high fly

01-22-2009, 01:54 AM

The way I heard it on the news, she fund out she would not get the gig and so she decided she needed more time with her family, or some such shit.
That, to me, sounded like the equivalent of the old line,

FIRED? You can't fire me, I QUIT!

conman823

01-22-2009, 04:36 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/nyregion/23caroline.html?_r=2&hp

This article explains everything......or does it? This whole process seems fucking nuts!

brettmojo

01-22-2009, 04:38 PM

http://storage.people.com/jpgs/19920504/19920504-750-141.jpg

PapaBear

01-23-2009, 12:07 AM

Aide: Kirsten Gillibrand picked as next NY senator (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_us/ny_senate_seat_2)

[Democratic congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand is the New York governor's pick to fill Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's vacate Senate seat. An aide to the governor tells The Associated Press that the 42-year-old Gillibrand will be named by Gov. David Paterson on Friday. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement has not been made.

Reephdweller

01-23-2009, 12:18 AM

Aide: Kirsten Gillibrand picked as next NY senator (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_us/ny_senate_seat_2)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Kirsten_Gillibrand,_official_photo_portrait,_2006. jpg