Was Guns and Roses ever anything but just Axl?

[ecobag2]

No.

3 backing monkeys and some silverware - Axl puts out a damned fine GnR album.

Let it be known...

Discuss.

[epo]

Yes.

Lock it up.

[underdog]

The new album is awful. I wanted to hate it, but it even surprised me how bad it was.

[furie]

Yes.
now on to the next thread

[Freakshow]

Yup.


Unless Axl put on a black curly wig and played that guitar solo on top of the piano on November Rain...

[Meataball23]

What year is it?? Axl Rose, what is that guy like 50?

[paulisded]

No.

3 backing monkeys and some silverware - Axl puts out a damned fine GnR album.

Let it be known...

Discuss.

Tommy Stinson is no "backing monkey" but you're nuts if you think Axl was the brains of the original lineup. The demise began, though, when Izzy Stradlin was fired.

[Devo37]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/Devo37/slash_hat.jpg

[hedges]

What incarnation of GnR are we talking about? I personally enjoyed the Buckethead version.
Slash was no slouch, and I havent heard much of the new album so no comment.

[ecobag2]

Maybe it's because I'm a Dave-level retard Axl fan...

I have to say the new album resonates with me in a big way.

I'll admit - it's like having a good friend pop up 14 years (or so ) later. But that power track is really fantastic. Like, and I've mentioned this before, a really good stripper song. The kind they'd play in a roadhouse where there's no one but bikers and feds taking a break together.

[CuntagiousChris]

Who cares truly :dry:

[Coach]

No.

3 backing monkeys and some silverware - Axl puts out a damned fine GnR album.

Let it be known...

Discuss.
You are Dumb.

[lleeder]

ecocrckers makes a confusing ass poll. no means yes and yes means no.

[hedges]

More like three very good musicians backing a monkey. I mean come on where would Axl be without the great musicians he's played and is playing with these days. Nowhere.

[DarkHippie]

ecocrckers makes a confusing ass poll. no means yes and yes means no.

izzy and slash were gnr. axl was spice. What put gnr over was the music, not the singer

[Recyclerz]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/Devo37/slash_hat.jpg

Stop taunting ESD, please.

GNR had a decent first album but I never thought they lived up to the hype, in any incarnation. (Now I'm taunting ESD, I guess). :unsure:

[IamFogHat]

Are you like twelve or thirteen years old?

[TheMojoPin]

Tommy Stinson is no "backing monkey" but you're nuts if you think Axl was the brains of the original lineup. The demise began, though, when Izzy Stradlin was fired.

Fuck yeah. Izzy was the backbone of the band.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

If this was 20 years ago, maybe I'd give a shit about GNR...but really who wants to pay good money to see some whiney aging rocker walk off the stage.

Chinese water torture = easier to listen to than Chinese Democracy. :flush:

[ahhdurr]

You are Dumb.

hmmph? (dammit - that was me eco)

[ecobag2]

Here's my thing - I would never have asked this - it's almost rhetorical or more of a consideration now for me becuase when I first learned of how Slash and Duff were gone etc. I dropped GnR forever - I was done with them and had the same opinion as stated of Axl.

Now that I hear the album - he strikes me as someone who's focused and kind of brilliant and it's hard to describe - almost like he's just out to do what he does without anyone else getting in the way of it ... again hard to describe (mainly becuase I'm tired and this is a discussion of pop culture)

Anway - I was taken aback by a few of the songs - and the sounds and placement of some of the rythyms the big ominous mood to some openings and the cocaine overdrive feeling of some of the tracks is noteworthy.

Some of the harmonizing is classic Axl but really beautiful - Catcher in the Rye is effectively wistful in a way - Better is a decent song - the piano track : good. I'm thinking - wtf? This isn't bad and I was totally against it. And the musicans (I have no idea of who they are except that Dizzy's on there) are fantastic - the guitar is showy but it's good too.

The monkeys mentions was that if there were just monkeys behind him I'd listen.

That said it left me to question whether or not I'd call this a gnr album which I'd rejected out of hand - and I find myself saying "holy shit - this is fucking gnr ... and it's just axl"

So my question stands. If you've listened and you dont liek it - ok. But if you were like me and especially if you were a fan - check it out ... it's better than not bad in my opinion and I imagine if I still got high I'd have a lot of fucking fun and some introspeciton with it.

(what's with the references to age and what year this is... it's music... this is silly)

[ecobag2]

oh and boosterp... right on!

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

The original GnR was the WHOLE package-- AXL, Slash, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen Izzy Stradlin.

I LOVE Tommy Stinson as the bass player for the latest incarnation of GnR. I doubt he's so into it.

Chinese Democracy is a fluster cluck.

[CuntagiousChris]

It wasnt as bad as i thought it would be that doesnt mean its good it just means that its less shitty than the shit i was expecting ill say no more:blink:

[epo]

oh and boosterp... right on!

Which would make sense, except that he didn't post in this thread.

[douchebagsean]

im a huge fan of slash but if u listen to the early records u can see the influence izzy stradlin had on the bands sound

[douchebagsean]

Who cares truly :dry:

slow news night?

[keithy_19]

It's a bad spin.

[Steven Adler]

We all played a huge part in the writing process ... at least that's how I remember it.

[ANC]

No.

3 backing monkeys and some silverware - Axl puts out a damned fine GnR album.

Let it be known...

Discuss.

Are you serious? The were fuckin tremendous when Appetite For Destruction came out, not to mention Use Your Illusion 1 & 2. How old were you during 1987-1992?

See Alice's post for the facts.

The original GnR was the WHOLE package-- AXL, Slash, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen Izzy Stradlin.

[ecobag2]

The original GnR was the WHOLE package-- AXL, Slash, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen Izzy Stradlin.

I LOVE Tommy Stinson as the bass player for the latest incarnation of GnR. I doubt he's so into it.

Chinese Democracy is a fluster cluck.

I quit GnR every time they lost someone and came back every time I heard the album. When I heard Adler was kicked out - done f them. Then I'm a huge fan of Lies. Heard Izzy was gone - wtf? No way I could listen again - that where's Izzy sign in the Don't Cry video killed me. Then I'm a huge fan of both UYI albums. I LIKE the spaghetti incident - they're great covers. I'm really surprised that this last album strikes me as at least "good" and definitely a GnR album.


Which would make sense, except that he didn't post in this thread.

check the poll

Are you serious? The were fuckin tremendous when Appetite For Destruction came out, not to mention Use Your Illusion 1 & 2. How old were you during 1987-1992?

See Alice's post for the facts.
Again - the monkeys thing was an exaggeration that means: If Axl walked out on stage with 3 monkeys would you stay and listen? It means, in essence, are you enough of an Axl fan to just watch him sing with monkeys. Insert elephants, crying babies, or even Dave in the background for the same effect. No obviously not - none of us would sit there.

In literary terms its hyperbole - and put there for a point not a literal statement.

(not a shot ANC - I wrote it confusingly and a couple ppl misunderstood me - howya been? You married? good to see you ...)

[ANC]

Again - the monkeys thing was an exaggeration that means: If Axl walked out on stage with 3 monkeys would you stay and listen? It means, in essence, are you enough of an Axl fan to just watch him sing with monkeys. Insert elephants, crying babies, or even Dave in the background for the same effect. No obviously not - none of us would sit there.

In literary terms its hyperbole - and put there for a point not a literal statement.

(not a shot ANC - I wrote it confusingly and a couple ppl misunderstood me - howya been? You married? good to see you ...)

OK . I was under the impression you were saying that Guns and Roses (the real Guns and Roses from Appetite) was just about Axl.

Yo buddy! didn't recognize the new name... :bye:

Doing well, married for almost 2 months now... So far so good :thumbup:

[ecobag2]

OK . I was under the impression you were saying that Guns and Roses (the real Guns and Roses from Appetite) was just about Axl.

Yo buddy! didn't recognize the new name... :bye:

Doing well, married for almost 2 months now... So far so good :thumbup:

Good news! Congrats. :clap:

[Flea_Man]

Damn I clicked the wrong thing. But the original GnR was the complete package. And Axl is not the brains of the band.